Who was in the wrong here?
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>>71594076
both
REV UP THOSE BATTSPOSTING BOYS
>>71594076
The Shah
>>71594076
It's not his fault. Tommy gets a little loaded. He didn't mean anything buy it.
>>71594076
What is some essential Frank Vincent-core?
He was fuckin hilarious in The Sopranos
>>71594076
Batts was just busting his balls
>>71594076
Tommy. When a made guy decides to bust your balls, you smile and laugh.
He went a bit overboard
Tommy. This whole scene was basically the dago wop guinea Italian gangster version of "he cant handle the banter"
>>71596719
Do the Right Thing, Casino and Raging Bull.
It was his fault a lil bit. YYYyyyeaaah he insulted him a lil bit.
>>71596947
Seen Do the Right Thing and Raging Bull but those were just bit parts. Has he ever been a lead in anything? I think he could pull it off
>>71594076
The fact Tommy catches a bullet in the head at the end should tell you who was in the wrong.
>>71596947
is do the right thing the one where he beats his daughter for like 10 mins because she went out with a moolinyan ?
>>71597348
why didn't deniro get shot too if he was involved ?
>>71597348
He L I T E R A L L Y wouldn't have gotten that punishment if Billy Batts wasn't a made guy
>>71597546
Because the confrontation was between Batts and Tommy and Tommy was the one who pulled the trigger on Billy
killing a made guy who just got released from prison and at his welcome home party
not too mention witnesses who were billy batts friends and knew tommy was angered at billy the same night billy goes missing
>>71597587
You can argue any point you want. He was a made guy. And that's the final say for these folks. I grew up around guys like this, heard of alot of horrible shit go down. If a guy is above you, and you fuck with him, you get the boot. Simple.
>>71597546
Deniro didn't kill him. These are not the cops, and there is no formal investigation. Tommy shot him, Tommy gets whacked
>>71597722
tommy was a hothead
>>71597546
this surprised me too considering deniros character was an associate and not even in the mafia. i guess he made too much money for paulie the capo, so was given a pass
deniro joined in killing him because billy wanted his businesses back that deniro was in charge of while billy was in prison
>>71597764
Yeah that's exactly what I mean..
He wouldn't have been "in the wrong" if Batts was just a "friend" instead of a made guy.
Also according towikipedia, DeNiro's character took over Batts' loansharking business while Batts was in the joint so Batts would have had to been dealt with sometime sooner or later.
>>71597764
>You can argue any point you want. He was a made guy. And that's the final say for these folks. I grew up around guys like this, heard of alot of horrible shit go down. If a guy is above you, and you fuck with him, you get the boot. Simple.
true, unless you are a big earner and get a pass from the boss but back in the oldern days, rules were better enforced
>>71597803
>Also according to wikipedia, DeNiro's character took over Batts' loansharking business while Batts was in the joint so Batts would have had to been dealt with sometime sooner or later.
or deniro could just give back billies business
but irishman aren't known for their smarts
why did Henry and Jimmy get off scot-free for their involvement in Billy's murder in the movie?
obviously the irl events were different but in the movie they both participated heavily in the killing, yet only Tommy was punished for it
>>71597897
>or deniro could just give back billies business
I don't think a guinea would've given back a racket after he took it over, either.
It's not a race thing, it's a "fuck you pay me" thing
Everyone who was a gangster
would that wig dude ever have gotten his money if he was patient ?
I'm confident the guy committing murder cause he can't handle the bants is in the wrong here
>>71598015
never, the wops were too greedy for that
i wonder if deniro would have killed everyone if samuel l jackson hadn't fucked up
>>71598123
i think he would have killed everyone
tommy dying made him paranoid and alone.
morris constantly nagging him and everyone else flaunting their wealth gave him enough reason to kill them and also greed so he can keep all the money
why did carbones have to die ? i thought he was one of the boys
>>71598192
his wife had to go and buy a $50,000 mink coat
>>71597764
Tommy in real life actually whacked another made guy and attempted to rape Hill's wife (who Paulie was fucking). That's why he was whacked, along with Batts.
Batts in real life was in prison and used to run Jimmy's routes. When he got out, he wanted his turf back. Since he was made and Jimmy wasn't, he'd have gotten it. That's why they killed him.
>>71598349
>Hill's wife
>who Paulie was fucking
I guess it's kind of obvious why Hill didn't want that information in the movie, but...really?
Henry was getting cucked by Uncle Paulie?
>>71598395
That's what he claimed in the follow up book.
Not really surprising since it's clear Hill's wife was all about money and power.
>>71598489
>Not really surprising since it's clear Hill's wife was all about money and power.
karen was a jew after all
>>71598489
>>71598531
>tfw still feel bad for Hill even though he was sleeping around and coking/boozing it up behind her back
I might be just being an armchair psych, but I feel like most guys who watch mob/heist movies self-insert and hope that everything ends in a happy ending with loadsamone(y)
>>71596719
GTA 3
>>71598596
i hated how in the film after everything is ruined for hill, he turns to paulie, the one man who told him not to get involved in drugs and begs for help
paulie gives him money and the first thng hill does is count it. ungrateful shit
would karen have died if she listened to deniro and walked into that shop ?
>>71598707
Either that or she would've gotten rape'd
Like anons said above, she's a jew so deniro's character knew that her entire existence revolved around money and jewlery+clothes, so luring her with the promise of "swag" into a semi-abandoned building to kill/rape her isn't exactly a novel or groundbreaking idea
>>71598667
Hill was a piece of shit, after all.
>>71597269
He's never really led anything (shame right?) besides GTA 3.
