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>>71298135
What?
http://letterboxd.com/steakbro/
wow hello
http://letterboxd.com/hugemoff/
>>71298303
>Spring Breakers
>5 (five) stars
explain yourself
![Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_00.32.34_[2016.06.26_04.17.33].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2mHflaV.jpg "Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_00.32.34_[2016.06.26_04.17.33].jpg")
>>71298568
i think it's pretty easy to acknowledge that SPRING BREAKERS is a well-done satire
but for me personally what pushes it to 5 is Korine's use of digital
pic related
Faster Pussycat kill kill is like if one of those awful American grindhouse/exploitation movies was actually really really good
http://letterboxd.com/Synt/
Haven't arrived this early in a long time.
Sorry about no Gregory's Girl btw Myrm, was really busy over the weekend.
>>71298782
Russ Meyer is a legend in how own way.
>>71298851
He is the single most 'American' film maker, maybe even human, of all time
absolutely a legend
http://letterboxd.com/BlackstreetBoy/
>>71299168
meant to write "his" oops. But yeah, dude's very cool.
>>71298755
It's not a satire you dumbfuck
>>71298303
>steak
>bro
what the fuck is that kinda name
>>71298371
a popcorn PEPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
![Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_01.25.41_[2016.06.26_05.46.29].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jIND063.jpg "Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_01.25.41_[2016.06.26_05.46.29].jpg")
>>71299352
what would you call it
i'm willing to believe i misunderstood it, considering it's the only Korine i've seen
>>71299441
a sincere portrayal of certain ideology/lifestyle taken to its end.
not a satire or parody.
http://letterboxd.com/winstonne/
I watched the regular edition of Nymphomaniac Part I, should I watch the director's cut of Part II or keep with the regular?
>he thought Spring Brakers was satire
maximum autism
>>71299597
why wouldnt you watch the d.c. in the first place, hm?
>>71299610
worse yet, him thinking its satire implies he likes it ironically most likely
yieks
>>71299527
if you don't think James Franco's Scarface speech contains satire you are completely blind and deaf.
>>71299636
I watched it a long time ago, only version available was regular. I want to finally finish it but I don't feel like rewatching Part I DC.
>>71299570
haha XD i watch yms.org too haha XD
>>71299661
It was rather sad speech in how it was portrayed. Nothing satiritcal about that. Just watching a lost cause white trash trying to make himself believe he had it right.
Ur free to explain where the satire was supposed to be in that scene, to me it felt very 'honest' in how it was portrayed
>>71299811
not the biggest fan
![Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_01.18.47_[2016.06.26_05.38.39].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DkdK5qN.jpg "Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_01.18.47_[2016.06.26_05.38.39].jpg")
>>71299527
>>71299845
>>71299637
sincerity doesn't preclude satire
the film is an excellent example of post-irony
>>71299972
just explain the satire angle then.
you said it was satire.
Describe this user in 4 words.
>>71300187
ma shill five four
Release date: 22 July
Who hype?
>>71298303
Too bad you didn't like Neon Demon more, and I'd give Spring Breakers 4.5/5, but of course it's a satire. Retards explain it's "honesty" and don't realize they're describing literally what well done, post-ironic satire is
>>71299845
"nothing satirical" about an actor portraying a stereotypical white gangsta who is a living embodiment of American consumerism?
He even delivers those lines with a wink. There is nothing earnest about that delivery; it's a satirical exaggeration in every sense.
>>71300187
reddit embryo pleb yikes
>>71299610
>>71299637
and he literally named himself steakbro
>>71300273
who the fuck does that
>>71300187
This guy is cool
>>71300262
Yeah, nothing, good that you repeat what I said.
There's everything earnest about that delivery, it's not satire just because it is certain thought taken to its extreme.
>>71300187
eurocrim shill nigger alright
>>71298782
Hands down, best film of 1965
And I've seen them all so don't even @ me
>>71300324
>satire
>(noun)
>the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
your argument is humor, irony and exaggeration of vice isn't satire. congrats, you're a retard.
![Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_01.06.06_[2016.06.26_05.23.04].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yEf0mHf.jpg "Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_01.06.06_[2016.06.26_05.23.04].jpg")
>>71300012
>>71300324
in honestly, sincerely portraying this consumerist lifestyle, and pushing it to the logical extreme, Korine aims to expose it as misguided and absurd
i'm curious at how you interpret it, if not as satire
>>71300492
cong fucking ratz you can paste dictionary definition
now can you tell how it was satire?
>>71300492
cong fucking ratz you can paste dictionary definition
now can you tell how it was satire?
>>71300522
>misguided and absurd
yes with Faith abandoning it he heavy handedly points this out, but like me saying no to dog shit interpretation it doesn't make rest of it a satire
sorry~
>>71298782
Faster Pussycat actually bored me. I was surprised because, like anyone who posts in a Letterboxd thread, I like exploitation films and I love Russ Meyer.
I don't know, I just thought the whole thing was trying too hard to be cute with all the innuendo and whatnot.
>>71300539
>the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
>the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
>the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID?
>>71300610
cong fucking ratz you can ctrl c ctrl v
you guys are making steakfag cry
>>71300645
im gonna mek this dictiocanary pasting mongloid my lil bitch
>>71300645
who the fuck calls someone a steakfag
>>71300679
dictionary guy and steak guy aren't the same person
AND ARE YOU NIGGERS RETARDED? SPRING BREAKERS IS LITERALLY TEXTBOOK SATIRE
>>71300645
don't call me steakfag ever again... you fucking piece of pleb
POST PROFILE NOW!
>>71300680
kinosseurs such as myself m'anon
>>71300726
please do point us the satire if it is so obvious
ur imagining ur winks because you have fucking autism
>>71300539
"humour, irony, exaggeration" are all utilised by Korine and Franco in the portrayal of Alien to portray someone who lives the consumerist lifestyle to its logical endpoint, which is death. But a glorious death, nonetheless.
Idolising Scarface is just too subtle for you, huh...
>>71300797
GUYS SOMEONE SAID FOOD IS BAD BUT THEY CONTINUED TO EAT IT
ARE THEY SATIRITICALLY EATING FOOD
OH MY Good GOD
>>71300742
>>71300761
'kinosseurs'.
oh god.
if i try to think of your statements as reality it is like looking at a child's awful drawing and thinking how dysfunctional world would be if it were accurate
he.... *sneers* he deluded himself, eh?
"kinosseurs".
*stares @ ur post in disbelief of some one actual writing this unironic*
kino...sseur...
OP said :
>No shitposting please
Is this thread satire or did i misread the definition?
>>71300817
if you don't understand how satire works just say so. No need to get all butthurt.
GUYS I FUCKING TURNED DOWN OFFER FROM CAR LOT
IT WAS FUCKING SATIRITCAL FUCKING PRICE
I SAID NO HE IS SATIRITCAL CAR COPMPANY
CAN YOU GET IT
FUCKING SATIRITALCAL CAR COMNPAN
Y
>ONLY IN LETTERBOXD
>LITERTAL=LY FMAISNBYAG
GUYS I FUCKING TURNED DOWN OFFER FROM CAR LOT
IT WAS FUCKING SATIRITCAL FUCKING PRICE
I SAID NO HE IS SATIRITCAL CAR COPMPANY
CAN YOU GET IT
FUCKING SATIRITALCAL CAR COMNPAN
Y
>ONLY IN LETTERBOXD
>LITERTAL=LY FMAISNBYAG
>>71300846
Not satire, as they're not hoping to expose shitposters as bad. They are doing it ironically tho (some of them anyways)
>>71300875
>the passive aggressiveness inherent in this post after being incapable of explaining how Spring Breakers is a satire
hello r*ddit
>>71300817
I bet you also think Showgirls and Starship Troopers are earnest films.
>>71300956
No.
Showgirls is a good film though!
i paid the bus
but i didn't ride
#satire
>>71300956
No.
Showgirls is a good film though!
>>71301004
man that was a fucking satire like Spring Breakers right there
steakbro here
I've been trolling all of you
lmao
>>71300938
>SCARFACE ON REPEAT
>LOOK AT ALL MY SHIT
>SHIRTS IN EVERY COLOR
Anon:
>"mmm, yes. very earnest, this man. so brave."
![Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_01.05.51_[2016.06.26_05.22.49].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nraLsE8.jpg "Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_01.05.51_[2016.06.26_05.22.49].jpg")
looks like i'm adding another movie to the "do not attempt to discuss in /lbg/" list
>>71301085
it was shorts in every color
>>71301074
not me, obviously
>>71301085
No, it was rather sad. Nothing brave. Insecure, sadfuck, trying to make himself believe to all of it.
>>71301117
look at that earnest expression. such powerful anti-artifice bevelled into his tattooed frame. Simply, it is thus: Cinema.
so brave.
>>71301117
>not me
>reply after 1 minute
kek
>>71301121
Exactly, it was sad. That's the point Korine was making, retard. You're explaining satire to yourself
>>71301117
>>71301074
15:42:24
15:43:32
interesting...
>>71301121
ok this is bait.
caca poopoo fart shit *poot* lol
>let's discuss this movie
>i think it's satire
>no, it's not
>yes, it is
>explain why
>[doesn't explain why]
>explain why
>fuck you plebs, we can't discuss that movie anymore!
>>71301254
>>71301208
Explain the satire in that scene. Satire implies judgement of sorts. It doesn't ridicule, shame or judge Alien at that scene, it is not even humorous and it lacks social criticism once Faith is removed.
>>71301318
>SCARFACE ON REPEAT
>"it is not even humorous"
ok this is satire.
![Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_00.06.32_[2016.06.26_03.29.45].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CFIDuKw.jpg "Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_00.06.32_[2016.06.26_03.29.45].jpg")
>>71301121
read the thread
>>71300522
>>71301352
Doesn't make the overall tone of the scene humorous, just more pathetic.
>>71301313
>>71301318
Except it is humorous. SB is hilarious. And of course it implies judgement, his empty lifestyle shows him ending up with nothing. And you saw him as sad, right? How the movie wanted you to see him?
S A T I R E
A
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>>71301318
ohh you're using satire to ridicule how dumb bait posters are. I get it.
>he thinks satire is like ironic shitposting
wew
>>71301419
No, wasn't humorous. There's nothing humorous about the scene unless you take the film as 'ironic' and are an idiot.
Implies judgement? Hmm, where again does the director show judgement? He is left with nothing but death, yes, but where in lies the judgement?
Stop projecting your value judgements unto film.
>>71301313
Except multiple people have explained how its satire, and retard boy keeps asking for the same explanation over and over again. Surely you're just getting off to the (You)s right? And you don't actually believe that
>>71301540
Someone anon pasted dictionary without tying it to the film and thinks he explained shit.
>>71301532
The exaggeration is the humor. You're arguing that the exaggeration isn't satire, and that's fine, but the ridiculousness of the characters, and the unrealistic-ness of the plot and its ending are quite funny.
And look at how the film marketed itself. There is some irony in there
>>71301532
>There's nothing humorous about the scene
>they can't into post-ironic new sincerity
lel
>>71301594
yet you don't understand how satire works. funny that...
>>71301616
>If it is unrealistic it is satire.
okay retard lord of the rings is satire
fucking got it
>>71301621
It is only humorous if you think everything is top kek and for the lafffs because Sppring Breakers is SOO IRONIC
if you take it without your moronic attitude it's rather melancholy in tone
it even ends to a sunset, the film i mean
>>71301711
>it ends with a sunset
>therefore it is a serious film
is this nigga serious?
![Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_01.18.09_[2016.06.26_05.37.52].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VbA2umJ.jpg "Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_01.18.09_[2016.06.26_05.37.52].jpg")
>>71301711
the entire second half of the film takes place either at sunset or at night
>>71301770
yes its melancholy in tone
>>71301745
oh yeah you shitbreathing moron probably think the sun was being ironic while setting
>>71301671
>>71301790
At this point, I realized this was bait. I was talking about exaggeration and you jumped to lotr. Kill yourself, retard
>tfw you try to find a Keaton short to watch with your good buddy m_obvs but he's seen them all already
>>71301951
>>71301951
maybe that's becauseAlidoosti > Golshifteh
![Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_01.26.57_[2016.06.26_05.47.50].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/e86roEr.jpg "Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_01.26.57_[2016.06.26_05.47.50].jpg")
>>71301790
you're not wrong, but i think you legitimately just don't know what post-irony is
i mean, that's okay, because it's not very common, but you really can't talk about SPRING BREAKERS without understanding it
i'm basically just repeating myself here but the sincerity and honesty of the film are present specifically to accentuate and expose how absurd all of it is
we can disagree about this and that's fine but you have, at this point, basically derailed this entire thread by throwing an autistic fit over the definition of the word "satire"
>>71301875
of course the characters are extreme archetypes because you wouldn't have such a film with 'basic' spring break type of filmatization but that does not satire make.
Where is the ridicule of these archetypes taken to their extreme? Faith judges them (hue) and that's the only time when the film contemplates on these.
>>71302013
irony, or post-irony aren't the same as satire, and we are debating of Sprang Breakers is or isn't satire. It is definitely post-ironic, but that doesn't make it satire.
The Room is satire
There Will Be Blood, now there's a satire!
>>71301951
sounds nice, props to both of you for actually enjoying film instead of shitposting or hating.
who's my good buddy?
>>71302050
the film doesn't judge but we as moral observers do (or at least should). Alien taking 4 jailbait girls to that rapey pool den? Yeah that's pretty shitty. Following a Scarface obsessed drug kingpin around to kill people? Also pretty shitty.
The film is merely a totality/collection of experiences. On its own it is just that. but when viewed by an audience that brings its own morality to what they see, it becomes critique or satire.
Korine isn't interested in judging them, but as moral entities we can't help but do so.
>>71302295
>We should insert our own value judgement instead of observing the film's content.
nah noh i don't really want to twist shit in to my context for the sake of it - you are equally retarded to faggots reading tranny subtexts to Resident Evil films.
post some plebs profiles
>>71302385
/steakbro
>>71298082
http://letterboxd.com/bvgf/
>>71302352
>Just turn your brain off bro!
>>71302385
/steakbro
>>71302385
http://letterboxd.com/sonofjorel/
>>71302410
I don't mean to turn off your brain, but I guess turning it on for you is too hard.
![Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_00.06.03_[2016.06.26_03.29.06].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XU6iBDQ.jpg "Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_00.06.03_[2016.06.26_03.29.06].jpg")
>>71302086
yeah, okay, i understand what you're saying, but you're still blatantly wrong
basically your argument is that because the film doesn't wave around its arms yelling "I'M A SATIRE" and then point at Alien and shout "LAUGH AT THIS SAD, STUPID MAN", it's not a satire
which is ridiculous
by your standards, the only satirical films are produced by the Wayans brothers
>>71302459
thanks for recycling my insult I guess?
try a bit harder next time tho
>>71302450
>all those refns
>not Valhalla rising
>>71302385
/steakbro
>>71302524
>ur worng lol
well that is neatly explained how the film is satire, almost as good as the paste from freedictionary
>>71302586
yet you still don't understand how satire works. funny that...
>>71302580
To be fair, it's overrated.
![Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_00.16.28_[2016.06.26_03.43.30].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JdnexSN.jpg "Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_00.16.28_[2016.06.26_03.43.30].jpg")
>>71302586
i've explained it twice already, and you've chosen to ignore it and not address the explanation both times
i think i'm done trying to spoonfeed you
>>71302632
just ignore them steakbro, they're just trying to get a rise out of you.
>>71302632
Your explanation was 'lol ur wrong'. You haven't convinced me of its nature as satire, sorry.
>>71302628
By who? Even if the majority of "film fans" like, it was mixedly received in general. But, even if it is overrated, it is still possibly Refns best
>>71302709
you can't be convinced because you're too dense. you can't even see that you proved yourself wrong many times.
![Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_00.30.36_[2016.06.26_04.09.19].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0PoPZ3n.jpg "Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_00.30.36_[2016.06.26_04.09.19].jpg")
>>71302709
>the sincerity and honesty of the film are present specifically to accentuate and expose how absurd all of it is
equates to
>lol ur wrong
please die
>>71302770
So David Lynch is satire now? Damn. Absurd != satire.
>the nibbled biscotti of evolution-rex
>>71302770
>please die
epin
it's pretty easy to see that Spring Breakers isn't satire by watching literally any other Harmony Korine film, it's empathetic to its outsider characters like all of his films are.
>>71302868
Ya he totally condones trash humpers
![Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_00.33.30_[2016.06.26_04.19.05].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kFrMyU1.jpg "Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_00.33.30_[2016.06.26_04.19.05].jpg")
>>71302868
i don't understand why you think that empathy for its characters precludes it from condemning their lifestyle
http://letterboxd.com/diest/
>>71302868
His other films aren't tied to a cultural phenomenon like Spring Breakers, which puts much more darkness and moral ambiguity under the microscope than his other work.
There's even a central arc that mirrors Scarface very closely, which itself was a critique on the American Dream (i.e. consumerism).
As much as Korine would love to escape the morality of what he puts on screen, it's impossible.
yo dudes check out this satire
>>71302989
Faith is the only angle to condemn the lifestyle. She gets removed from the film shortly after.
The director clearly tells the moralist character to phuck off
>>71303042
no he doesn't, he just represents a moral objector to the spring break scene. The fact that Alien dies in a hail of bullets should tell you all you need to know about that lifestyle.
![Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_01.11.50_[2016.06.26_05.31.29].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eZpsU0A.jpg "Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_01.11.50_[2016.06.26_05.31.29].jpg")
>>71303042
what about Cotty, who abandons the other girls and Alien after being shot? she's exposed to the reality of what they're doing and chooses to reject it, furthering the idea that Brit, Candy, and Alien are essentially just living out a fantasy
Not a satire guy has and interesting argument, but the other continues to be much more convincing, and it's clear he has no idea what he's talking about, or had only taken a very shallow look at Spring Breakers
>>71303008
100% agree with you on Finding Dory. Re-watching Finding Nemo some of the animation really is clunky at points and doesn't flow right. Also some of the textures are bit poor compared to modern technology. But it's still good because the story works much more and isn't as wacky or unbelieveable.
>>71303127
Doesn't make it a satire.
>>71303109
The fact that two bitches nail down the entire gangster hideout while going at the lifestyle makes your point.. meaningless? They appropriated what Alien was preaching (even if Alien ime doesn't buy it himself) and make it out
>>71303008
Also how haven't you seen Toy Story?
>>71303196
You're saying the film isn't a satire because it doesn't pass judgement, but the you're admitting that it shows their lifestyle as a fantasy. By your own definition, that (plus other things itt) DOES MAKE IT A SATIRE
>>71303180
thanks althought I don't think Nemo's animations are clunky, but I'll agree that the textures do look dated already.
>>71303218
I have, abunch of times, but I feel I need to watch it again before I can accurately rate it since I haven't seen it in so long
Lil Z' is a fucking dick.
>>71303196
they make it out because it's just their vacation. They aren't steeped in that life like Alien is (yet). Who knows if they continue down that path in the future, but as with all gun and drug culture, it would inevitably end in death or imprisonment.
It's also about female empowerment (they make him suck their gun dicks). The arc of the film is their journey from cherubic innocents to conquerors of spring break.
It's a happy ending tinged with darkness.
I wish i could understand how Linklater is able to make such shit movies when he has some pretty legit ones
>>71303307
Showcasing something like a dreamlike experience with archetypes isn't a satire. Try again.
>>71303315
The aren't all clunky, but watch the introduction to Bruce again, I feel as if Bruce's facial animations don't really work as well as they should.
Ah, fair enough.
>>71300187
He's a cool guy
>>71303452
read the thread.
http://letterboxd.com/machill54/
>tfw my profile is satire of autism
watched a film by each of the greatest English, American, and Canadian film maker of all time tonight what a wild evening this has been
>>71300361
agreed, probably the decade too
>>71300605
This is surprising to me because I thought it had the rare achievement of my being boring. Ripping this opinion slightly from the top review, most exploitation feel like they have enough good content for a trailer then pad it out to feature-length, whereas this actually felt like a film worth of exploitation, constant barrage of big american titties and big american motor cars and big american violence.
>>71300200
>>71300266
>>71300291
>>71300346
agreed and correct
:-(
>>71302203
Who else regularly posts here who actually talks about films instead of shitposting or hating?
>>71303510
>he doesn't rate what he watches
just fucking off yourself
>>71303424
>breathless
nice
>>71303522
tfw
>>71303570
/steakbro
In all honesty, he's brought up a new film almost each thread. It's not his fault autism in it takes over
>>71303570
/myrmician
>>71303471
also agreed
>>71303510
meant to say not instead of my in that sentence where it doesn't make sense that I said that
>>71303571
seems like a silly reason to off my self so I won't do that
>the arduous rancor of evolution-rex
![Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_00.32.21_[2016.06.26_04.17.10].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4KL5fSW.jpg "Spring Breakers 2012 BluRay 1080p DTS-HD x264-LEGi0N.mkv_snapshot_00.32.21_[2016.06.26_04.17.10].jpg")
>>71303452
that one aspect alone does not make it a satire, you're correct. but you also have to take into consideration the other elements of the film. in particular: the sound of guns being loaded or fired accentuates almost every scene transition (it's even used to cut to the credits at the end) - is that really just a stylistic touch, or is it intended to remind you how dark and ugly the girls' fantasy really is?
>>71302817
>>71303732
Stop you're messing it up
>the stygian bouffant of evolution-rex
>>71303797
>or is it intended to remind you how dark and ugly the girls' fantasy really is?
Yes it is dark, yes it twisted and yes it does remind of it and how does this make it a satire? It doesn't.
It doesn't even serve any judgement.
![00001.mpls_snapshot_01.23.12_[2016.06.26_18.53.48].png](https://i.imgur.com/AWu9cku.jpg "00001.mpls_snapshot_01.23.12_[2016.06.26_18.53.48].png")
>>71303844
Indeed, that guy's style makes sense when the other lad posts the profile. This way, it's just cheap
>>71300187
who the fuck names
>>71304027
>A Johnnie To without muh Sammi Chengfu
more like Johnnie, no.
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>>71304015
>It doesn't even serve any judgement.
how can you believe this if you're acknowledging that the film is showing their vacation/fantasy, which they claim to be beautiful and the best thing that's ever happened to them, as dark, twisted, and ugly?
>>71304144
wtf is this screencap supposed to be?
>>71304217
One the masked girls leaning down and kissing his bullet riddled head
>>71300187
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>>71304144
Because maybe *they* (as archetypes, they'd love it, I believe they are intentionally left bit faceless outside Faith) loved it, and they did - and they excelled at it. And the film leaves it at that the end.
>>71304287
RAATE
WHAT
YOOU
WATCH
?
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>>71304217
it's one of the girls kissing Alien's body after they've shot up Arch's house
>>71304290
okay, but if the film is constantly reminding us that it's a morally corrupt and twisted thing, despite how much they loved it, how is it not passing judgement? what would be the purpose of that?
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>>71304132
>>71304350
How is it passing any judgement? Only Faith serves the judgement and she gets blown the fuck out from the film the moment she starts to bitch. The film wasn't for *them* the moralistic view point it was to see the idea taken to the extreme and see what the fuck happens without much pondering on moralfagging.
>>71304437
no wonder you don't know what satire is. you talk like a 15 year-old tryhard, anti-moralist edgelord.
>>71304437
>what is the purpose of the film constantly reminding us that it's a morally corrupt and twisted thing, despite how much they loved it
You just completely ignored the main argument, again. Stop repeating yourself, find something ore convincing. Do some actual analysis on your own, or at least address what posters themselves have analyses and explain why you disagree.
>>71304374
this is probably my favourite scene in To's entire filmography. Sammi's reaction is fucking great.
Oh my god this argument is so boring
just stop replying steak bro, nobody is winning this argument, you lose, they lose, the thread loses, everybody is a loser in this
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>>71304437
>Only Faith serves the judgement
but you're wrong
>Faith's trepidation and departure after Alien's arrival
>guns being loaded/fired punctuating scene transitions
>Alien being gunned down with so little fanfare
>Cotty bailing out after being shot
>Brit and Candy's impassivity and lack of empathy towards Cotty and Faith when they decide to leave
>cutting to black at the end of the film with the sound of a rifle slide being racked
>>71304626
I think steakbro is winning the argument
>the analytical funk of evolution-rex
>>71304649
Cotty was bailed out because I honestly think they forgot they had third bitch in the film lmfao.
The two semen demons, after they literally and figuratively dump Faith and faith in narrative and story are what's important. That is the film's ideology of Spring Break taken to the maximum extreme and there's not much moralfagging in there.
And just because it observes something, like impassivity, doesn't mean it serves any sort of judgement or ridicule on the characters. This is like saying portraying slavery is promoting it.
and all of this still doesn't make it a satire in anyway.
>>71304626
steakbro is too easily triggered to not make a fool of himself
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>>71304626
yeah, you're right
i think i'm done
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>>71304132
This movie has two actors who appeared in Mann's Blackhat. I wonder if Mann is familiar with To.
>>71304926
so can you point out the satire for me now
>>71304900
it's satire if it their complicity in crime and hyper-sexualised culture elicits a strong moral repulsion in the end, which it should if you own any basic sense of right and wrong...
Godfather is a satire.
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>>71304924
>trying to discuss a film is being triggered
hmmmmmm
>>71305003
it would surprise me if he weren't
i've only seen DRUG WAR, but i'm interested in checking out more To. do you have any advice on progressing through his filmography (skips, essentials, etc) or is chronological ideal
>>71305044
It doesn't elicit nothing but joy and some sadness in the semen demons that survive.
It is literally not my fault if you read your own subtexts to it and place your own value judgements for no good reason there. The film and its narrative is what matters, not yours.
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Chronological is good; that is how I did it. There is an amazing leap in quality around the mid-90s, with A Moment of Romance III and Lifeline, and To maintains that quality nearly unabated until the present. Everything before that seems like apprentice work and can be skipped if you only want the great stuff.
My personal favourites:
Sparrow
Throw Down
Breaking News
Exiled
Election
Office
Blind Detective
>It's Vulgar Auteur PowerHour
>tfw no one leeching your upload within the first fifteen minutes
Feels bad, man.
>>71305090
>>trying to discuss a film is being triggered
Getting upset someone doesn't like a shit film or agree with you is being triggered.
Just look at how badly you samefagged and crash this thread because you were steaming mad. You have the self-awareness of an ant. Just go back to /v/ and take your shitty screencaps with you.
>>71305003
they're some of the hottest actors in China so I don't think appearing in American crossover films is that out of the question.
>>71305090
they're all pretty similar tonally but his comedies (especially those co-directed with Wai Ka-Fai) are a little obtuse for Western audiences. I like them but they all run a little long and the threadbare "plots" aren't very interesting.
So skip the comedies.
>>71305307
Hey man me and steak were having a fine discussion no need to come and be like this.
>>71305352
I was speaking broadly.
#STEAXIT when?
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>>71305307
>samefagged
>steaming mad
you can believe that was me if you want, but the only posts i made ITT were with screencaps.
>>71305200
thanks, anon. i'll check out those favorites first.
>>71305107
How we receive the film IS the film. The film isn't some kind of unopened box or unassailable object. Art is conversation.
>"There’s definitely transcendence in pop-culture imagery, and there’s a lot of emptiness in things that people find profound. Now the onus is on the viewer. You have to make sense of it yourself."
>-- Harmony Korine
>>71305404
Except Steak wasn't samefagging. He avatarfagged all his posts, the rest were people like me that agrees. Even when some got mad and shitpost the "not satire" guy, steak continued to keep a level head a discuss earnestly.
I was born but... Is the best Ozu I've seen thus far
http://letterboxd.com/Lozjudai/
>>71305333
Nothing wrong with his romantic comedies. Don't Go Breaking My Heart and the sequel, My Left Eye Sees Ghosts and Romancing in Thin Air are all great.
>>71305567
eh, both DGBMH and My Left Eye were a little too pedantic and uncompelling for me.
Romancing is like two superfluous subplots too long. (and the ending felt like a ripoff of Kurosawa's After Life) Otherwise it's a masterpiece.
>>71305427
>How we receive the film IS the film. The film isn't some kind of unopened box or unassailable object. Art is conversation.
In a way. But things exist by themselves. Art doesn't need to be a 'conversation'
>>71305427
The viewer receives the film and the film only, the film and the creator are detached in that sense and anything external to the film doesn't matter when observing the specific film.
Tying the film's narrative to your own context and narrative must exclude you from appreciating ton of films.
me on the left
>>71305766
>>71305766
Yah not enough epic doublepost memes and ERP'ing from IRC crowd
Bad thread
>>71305766
>le straw man
stop talking about movies
>>71305754
Spring break is a collective context from which the film draws inspiration and comments on, however indirect. Having white people appropriating black culture, rapey situations, hypersexualisation, worship of guns, money and consumerism -- all that isn't some kind of moral void where you can absolve the film on the pretext of fiction. it's exaggerated in a specific way, a comic way, a destructive way, for a reason. That's embedded in the film.
>>71305766
Holy shit you're so fucking mad
>MUH BEAVERS
Pathetic
christ this thread is a shitshowwell, more than usual
>>71305766
really makes you think
you guys are f*cking embarrassing me in front of Emma!!
>>71305951
>all that isn't some kind of moral void where you can absolve the film on the pretext of fiction
I can, since only the film's narrative matters within the single specific, observed, film. If I were to write a paper about 'spring break culture' and its portrayal in media, that'd be different. There's no reason to tie film to a narrative other than its own when observing the specific film.
The film might fail in portraying certain ideas, that might come to you if you get information outside the film, but that is a strike against film since the film can only stand on its own.
>236 posts
>32 posters
We're fantastic
>>71306314
I only posted >>71300824 and this post, myself.
>>71306314
>anons mad about spring breakers
this board is top tier desu familia
>>71306314
Yeah because only 1 post allowed per IP especially when trying to discuss right
>>71306468
I wouldn't be surprised if median post per user is like 10 ITT considering this is the only post I've made.
>>71306425
It's this general really. As said yesterday, this is the last place left hosting love of film and actual autism
>>71306468
I said we- as a general- are fantastic unironically, fám
opinions on this chart?
>>71306732
Since when has a normal pleb 'liked' Malick
oh yeah the Thin Red Line I guess, but still.
>>71306732
do you determine your level by the highest level that you're familiar with
also
>Wong Kari-wai
>Kari
>>71301951
But I like rewatching them with you.
>>71303570
Get you a dude who can do all three. Like me.
>>71306839
but ur not cute.
>>71306864
but I have a big heart
http://letterboxd.com/thewizard/
What's your opinion on this user?
>>71300187
really big sex organ
>>71306898
>SPEED RACER 5 stars
he's alright
/pastafrola
>>71305254
>le straw man
>the infernal trumpet of evolution-rex
>>71307583
stop pls
