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thank god

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/vinyl-canceled-at-hbo-905537
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lol, since Winter left I couldn't care less
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>>71146461
oof man. what the fuck happened behind the scenes to produce such a fiasco? It just wasn't good no matter how much I wanted it to be. Almost as bad as TD season 2.

HBO is in dire fucking straits.
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>>71146524
>he actually watched this garbage

...
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>>71146524
>I couldn't care less
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>>71146461
So first it was renewed for s2 now they cancel it. Also I thought s1 was okay it had potential to get better once they drop that mob and constant drug use crap.
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It was a interesting concept poorly executed. I only kept watching to see Juno Temple nude
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>>71146461
Holy fuck HBO is fucking the dog when it comes to dramas. Thank god they have Veep and Silicon Valley and Curb with Vice Principals coming soon.

Seriously, once GoT ends in two yrs, Leftovers pretty much done and True Detective extinct they are fucked. Westworld went through too much drama and the future titles don't have much appeal to them. They need to start taking some more risks. The guy who did Oz is right. They're pussies now.
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Good.

Let that be a lesson to other rich Assholes seeking to make self indulgent projects on premium cable.

People pay for that shit, I don't, but fuck off with this shit only you wanna see, Jagger and Scorsese.
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>>71146705
they did the same thing to The Brink.

what the fuck is going on at that company? This is clearly the signs of trouble. GoT is propping it up. at least they renewed Silicon Valley.
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>>71146710
>It was a interesting concept

No, it wasn't, quite the contrary actually, which is why it has been cancelled.
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>>71146714

Don't worry I'll save HBO with my political drama coming in the fall of 2017.

Hang on guys
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>>71146714
did Westworld ever eventuate?

Ausfag here, was waiting for the episodes to record but it never happened. Have been looking for a nice Deadwood substitute for ages (inb4 justified)
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>>71146806
Westworld is slated for a fall release.

at least The Night Of looks interesting, but that's a miniseries.
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>>71146741
Too bad they have two short seasons left. Though that could change due to all their shit dropping like flies.

No David Simon show can save their ass.

They gave in to the normies who like MCU shit and now they have to find a way to keep them on their channel. You watch, they'll quickly start a prequel GoT show soon here to keep themselves alive.

Only option I see for them is buying the rights to more fantasy or sci-fi shit.

Could be a good thing. Might see Wheel of Time on HBO. Or maybe they'll be cool and smart and take a stab at Dune.
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>he killed Boardwalk Empire for this

I hope Winter never works again.
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HBO is such shit, no matter how many normies like GoT
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>>71146864
Yeah, that teaser/trailer for The Night Of really piqued my interest.
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>>71146905

Winter's a great writer and is responsible for some of the best Sopranos episodes as well as Boardwalk Empire. Not sure why Vinyl was so average. I was expecting god tier shit
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>>71146714
I feel like they'll sooner make up their own shit for GoT than just put it on hiatus

or make a spinoff like FTWD that doesn't follow the books to fill time
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This premieres tonight and I'm giving it a legitimate shot because Grantland and 30 for 30 are two of my favorite things ever.
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>>71146806
There's an actual trailer out for Westworld. It looks alright.
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the Deadwood movie will bring the company into a third renaissance. just wait!
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Wow thanks a lot HBO
Got a letter from my ISP for downloading this.

RIP in hell failed opportunities show
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>>71146864
The Night Of looked ok, nothing really out of the ordinary but obviously just going off the trailer I'm really judging a book by its cover.

Hanging out for Westwall, though honestly don't have high expectations given HBO's recent run. Tried really hard to enjoy Vinyl but it never quite got there.
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>>71146461
HBOkino is officially dead after The Leftovers ends.
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>>71147046
That's what they've been doing for two seasons so far. So I don't doubt they'll just keep making shit up.

Right now they've planned for two more short ordered seasons. I'm guessing they'll change that to full order to keep people watching. Then it's prequel time.
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>>71146461
>HBO's Vinyl Cancelled
Good.
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>>71147126
mostly correct. except for Curb in Pleb tier what is your fucking problem kid? and where the fuck is Larry Sanders Show?
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>>71147126
I disagree with about half of this.
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>>71146905
>he killed Boardwalk Empire for this

false
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Hopefully Bobby Cannibale finds a proper place to showcase his worth.
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>>71147240
But no matter what, he goes home to Rose Byrne.
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>>71147126

>entourage
>patrician

I can't even fit this bait in my mouth.
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>>71146714
>Westworld went through too much drama
what happened
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>>71146461
aw man. it wasn't a great show by any means, but it sure was fun to watch. i dug it, warts and all. it really was a muddled mess, though, quite like 70s rock, which i found fitting. the music numbers were great but the gangster story and the dj murder mystery were really out of place. i really wanted one more season to wrap it all up. i'd even be happy with a short 4-episode truncated season, but alas that's not to be.
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>>71147240
>>71147270

Which is a proper place to showcase his girth I guess.
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>>71147169
>except for Curb in Pleb tier

Curb has been shit for 4 seasons now.
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>>71147374
>season 7 was shit
fuck off you fat fucking retard
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Season 1 had so much potential, and with all the ad hype. What the fuck.

The second season could've been better.
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>>71146891
The only possible way The Wheel of Time could reach the screen is through CGI animation. There is simply too much supernatural shit that happens.

Havent read it in a while but off the top of my head:

The different elemental weaves of the One Power
Ageless faces of Aes Sedai. All the cities. Tar Valons White Tower, etc.
How could you cast the Aeil with real people?
The hordes of orcs and Mydraals

Dont get me wrong, i would LOVE to see it, but the series is so fucking long and epic in scope and scale there is no way you could cast real people to play these parts. It would take a decade to film even 20% of the content from the books.

Imagine trying to film the final battle at the end of Lord of Chaos with real people.
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>>71147048
I can't stand his fucking arrogance

The definition of a Boston homer
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>>71147126
>Curb Your Enthusiasm in Pleb tier
>The Sopranos in Patrician tier
>Vinyl in Patrician tier
>Entourage in Patrician tier
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>>71147126
>no Ballers
>no John From Cincinnati
>no Tell Me You Love Me
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>>71147391
It was though, everyone pretends it was good because of the Memefeld reunion.
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>>71146714
>tfw they'll never make a Sopranos prequel series with the actors who played young Junior and Johnny Boy Soprano from the show
>tfw we'll just keep getting garbage like Game of Plebs and Girls for the next decade
I really took early-mid 2000's HBO for granted
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Only thing I know about the show is that you see Olivia Wilde naked in it.
So just on that, I'll miss it.
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>>71147433
All of those would fit into Patrician tier.
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>>71147126
I'll literally fucking kill you for this
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>>71147423
All of this is true. And I will be watching regardless.
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>>71147406
Well they did well with the Giants on GoT so it's possible some things could work with a tv budget of cgi.

I'd just be worried that WoT would be dictated by the shitty GoT fanbase.
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>>71147430
The Sopranos is literally the most patrician show ever you fucking moron
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>>71147443
why are you the authority? because you made a shitty picture in Paint? get the fuck out of here
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How the fuck did Vinyl cost $100 million to make while Game Of Thrones costs about the same per season?
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I've had the first season of Vinyl on my DVR for a while now. Worth watching or nah?
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>>71147525
maybe if you're 14 years old
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>>71146547
Yeah man I mean they have the #1 drama on all of tv and one of the top comedies on the same night plus a new season of curb coming, they are definitely fucked beyond repair.
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>>71147374
>>71147391
>>71147443

>implying curb had any bad seasons
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>>71147126
move TD season 1 to patrician and make a slave tier for season 2
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They need to cancel silicon valley too. That show is a fucking bore now. It's a shame because season one is so fantastic. Now it just feels like a boring ass Halt and Catch Fire sitcom. All the technobabble and law proceedings is alienating and uninteresting to be honest. The first season had a good balance and actually felt like a witty comedy.
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>w-we're just like Mad Men only edgier!

Fuck this show.
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>>71147548
In my opinion, no. If you haven't felt the urge to watch it by now then you'd be wasting your time.
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>>71147473
I want more amazing new ideas. A prequel for Sopranos would be okay but not preferred.

Btw Girls has one season left. But I think Lena is doing a feminist show. Like one literally about a feminist in the 50s.
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>>71147573
>Yeah man I mean they have the #1 drama on all of tv
The Walking Dead is the #1 drama on all of TV in the US
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/walking-dead-pulls-28-million-709424

>one of the top comedies
Without GoT as a leadin to Silicon Valley, it would drop like a rock.
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>>71147126
I miss Entourage bros.
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>>71146891
They'll just make a Game of Thrones prequel show about the rebellion, you just know it
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HBO's fucked. Westworld looks like it'll be the same old formulaic shit. And behind the scenes drama doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

Despite the shit fanbase, I'm still enjoying GoT. It's only got two years left though. True Detective looks to be dead in the water now as well. I want that Deadwood movie, but I doubt it'll happen. They aren't moving quick enough with it.
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>>71147663
>Without GoT as a leadin to Silicon Valley
Yeah who's ever heard of Mike Judge am i right my little gen z buddy?
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>>71147397
I thought the same s2 seem like it could been better now that mob stuff was gone and the constant we gotta save the company thing. Weren't they gonna focus on Ritchie and ray Romano growing distance to each other that could have been good.
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>>71147745
He's a name but not one that can draw in the same numbers as GoT. Especially on a specialty channel.

It's like Matt Groening. He's a name but it doesn't mean quality.
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>>71147740
Milch finished up adapting Shadow Country and is now focusing on the Deadwood stuff. it'll happen, mate, relax. plus Simon has a couple of series up his sleeve, too. let's see what's next for Winter, too, before writing off a network. the only one i have my doubts on is Pizzolatto. i doubt he can write another hit series, but we'll see. dude was a one trick pony and that trick was called nu-plagiarism.
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>>71147615
kek, guaranteed flop, I wish you could make bets on flops
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>>71147740
Westworld will be better than Game of Feminism
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>>71146461
A popular trend, which had been named #SelfieOlympics, claimed the life of an 18-year-old Oscar Reyes. On January 2, 2015 the teenager took a photo of himself in a Sponge Bob suit and uploaded it to Facebook. The photo has collected more than 200 likes. Oscar’s friends later told him that he should continue taking selfies. On January 3 Oscar smashed his head in his mother’s bathroom and died from excessive bleeding, trying to take a selfie from the bathroom door.
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watching Six Feet Under for the first time right now, it's fantastic

where did all go wrong for HBO

also Carnivale, Boardwalk Empire or The Leftovers next?
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>>71148287
I'd go with Boardwalk. The Leftovers is great but season one is a bit of a slog until the finale. Season is great.
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There should be another WW2 series coming soon, they just haven't officially announced it.
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>>71148410
What do you mean by this? Just speculation?
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Fuck.
I loved it.
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>>71148410
What'll it be about this time? The Pacific through a Jap's eye?
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DUNE WHEN
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>>71146591
I never watched it desu, loved Boardwalk, though, and was therefore relatively excited for Vinyl
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>>71148589
I want that. Or maybe a short season of group of idealistic teens as Nazis.
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>>71146524
Winter sucks as a show runner and was the reason why the show was bad.
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>>71148500
>>71148589
This is from 2013, with the first information
>http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/hbo-developing-third-wwii-miniseries-413632

This is from 2015 with the most recent information i could find
>http://reelbrief.com/hbos-masters-of-the-air-wwii-mini-series-filming-in-england/

It's happening. HBO stays quiet on these series. I remember there was little to no information about The Pacific until about 10 months before it was released, at which point they slowly started showing promotions for it until it turned into a full blown marketing thing.

I'm hoping for fall 2017, but may have to wait until 2018.
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>>71146461

JUST
U
S
T
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>>71147126
>Show Me A ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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>>71148598
I fucking hope so.

As long as no D&D similar showrunners take the reigns.
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It wasn't even bad. I mean its a shame they killed Boardwalk Empire for this but it still wasnt bad.

At this point im convinced HBO just wants to axe everything to free up more budget for Game of Plebs.
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why would they cancel vinyl and bring back that shitty ballers show is beyond me, fuck hbo
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>>71148762
>>71148726
>>71148589
i'd like to see a WW2 series that focuses or at least shows Russian involvement. seems a lot of American shows simply write them out of history. i guess this is mainly due to the US's unsavory and combative views on Russia since fucking forever. it's almost as if Americans cannot abide by depicting enemies in a sympathetic light. ever.
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>>71149025
Ballers is great if you're a chad.
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>>71148589
anything but usa sweeps in to save the day. the eastern front would be cool, frame it around two rommel/patton rival officers or something
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>>71149025

Ballers gets good ratings and costs less.
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It had a good sountrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eD8RRjLL7E

Need mo money fo dem thrones tho.
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>>71149088
*if you're a nigger

ftfy
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>>71149059
Russians and Americans didn't really fight together. It's an American company and American written and produced show about American history. Of course it is going to feature Americans.

I'm not American but it bugs me when people whine about how there are no big historical epics about "their" history and then complain that Americans don't include them. Don't rely on America to put your countries history on film for you.
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hbo drama will never come close to the early to late 2000s ever again, such a shame they had moronic leadership back then
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>>71147473
>>tfw they'll never make a Sopranos prequel series with the actors who played young Junior and Johnny Boy Soprano from the show

> blasts other for watching pandering bullshit

> wants his own pandering bullshit

leave the sopranos alone anon, their shit is goat because they didnt pander to anyone, they told their story, the message was received ( for better of for worse) and now is over....let it go....let it go.
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>>71147483
Ballers was good until the last 3-4 episodes where the show became shit.
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>>71147556

look at the edge on this faggot.
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FUCKING GEIGH

THIS SHOW WAS FANTASTIC

westworld is going to blow buffalo dick
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>>71149059
well mainly its because all the hollywood guys who made pro-soviet films during the war (ie: asked by the government to make films depicting one of our allies in the war) ended up being blacklisted and witchhunted for "being communist" during the mccarthy cold war era
>no battle of kursk with thousands of tanks and airplanes
>no brutal operation bagration rolling into germany from the east
>no depiction of the urban hell of the battle of berlin and all the debased rapes and warcrimes in the captured destroyed nazi captial
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>>71148589

> not wanting an in-depth russian perspective

> not wanting an holocaust survivor perspective

> not wanting an in-depth jap perspective for the pearl harbor combatants.

there is so much potential and story for the band of brothers brand but The pc police wont let them get it made.
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>>71148287
Six feet Under just drives the Gay Gay Gay Gay Gay drama over the top.

we get it. David is gay. thank you for the repeated reminders that he sucks cock for literally half of every episode.

its too much, I cant watch 6 feet under because of the gay overload.
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I know so many people who only have HBO for GoT. Once that ends HBO's sub count will drop like a rock.

That David Simon 70s porn show might as well not even get made either.
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>tfw I liked True Detective 2
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>>71146461

too bad cause The ray romano character was fucking goat! he should have been the main protagonist.
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>>71149596
>once GoT ends HBO's sub count will drop like a rock

Fucking good, that show attracts the worst kind of plebs.
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>>71149596
lol, listen to this guy

GoT averaged 8 million live views and south of 18 million after all showings and rewatches etc

HBO has 130 million subscribers

it wont even put a dent in it, especially know that its widely available as a standalone sub
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>old dudes make a dadrock circle jerk show
>no one cares

Wow big surprise there!
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>>71149568
>TRIGGERED
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>>71149744
says the guy who didnt even watch it

it wasnt about that at all
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>>71146461
no shit. the 70s sucked.
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>>71147585
That is what happened
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>>71149596
no. what will happen is the their sub base will demand more costume dramas. it doesn't matter if you hate or love got but after its over hbo has to take a chance on another high budget costume drama whether fantasy or historical.
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>>71149059
I'd love to see an eastern front series a la BOB. I could go either way with it being from the Russians or Germans POV.
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>>71149983
Generation War wasn't good enough for you ?
and you don't want any WW2 related anything from nowadays Russia, it'll make The Longest Day look unpatriotic
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>>71146461
That's too bad I wanted to see Olivia and Juno naked some more.
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Well can't blame them. Ayy leeway they gave use Olivia Wilde's nude scene
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>>71149596
The DS show is being shot, and James Franco is a part of it, he can attract some viewers.

http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/the-deuce-method-man-slice-600x200.jpg

http://cdn.hbowatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/TheDeuce_earlypic-1024x759.jpg
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>>71147240

Honestly hope he never works again, he's such a fucking background wop actor, no idea how he ever got anything other than "generic goon #3"
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North African WW2 theatre series when
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>tfw no more visions of ernst

>tfw no shots of ingrid and devon rubbing zey pussy togezher
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>>71147525

So, what other worthless opinions do you have?
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Damn. HBO is fucking up
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Why not give the boys of Dogme 95 a call?

I know Lars was toying with the idea of working in that medium.
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>>71150035
I thought it was great, but it was too short. I just think there's more territory to be explored there.
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fug

I just finished watching ep1. Should I finish the show?
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>>71150125
Now this would be interesting.
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>>71149640
He and Juno were the only likeable characters on the show.
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So, Westworld is the only hope for HBO now that Game of Cucks is ending?

>>71150330
You won't miss anything
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>>71150389
the only thing interesting about juno were her nasty bitz
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>>71149568
SFU was made before the time every show needed a gay romance subplot.
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Reminder that they killed Boardwalk Empire by promising they could make this show instead.
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Fuck man I really wanted to see what happened to this guy. He was a really good singer.
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>>71147573
GoT has less two years left, True Detective hasnt been renewed, The Leftovers has no audience, Veep is close to ending, Togetherness was killed, Girls is ending, Westworld is in trouble. Right now is good, but only for a year or two.
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>>71150542
He was gonna get laid by that one guy.
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>>71150035
Gen War was tepid. One cutie and her story ended up being lame.
Nothing about the show was interesting. Felt forced af.
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post nude webms of Olivia and juno
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One thing this show did was make it crystal clear that Oliva Wilde is a fucking horrendous actress.
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>>71150492
Eh I thought her relationship with her mother was alright I was hoping s2 would go more into that and her dating Kip was fun to watch.

Honestly there wasn't really much to her character but atleast she wasn't asshole like everyone else in the show, but she did go full retarded in s1 finale when she pull a Yoko ono when she told Kip she wanted to cuck him with one of his band members even though he was pretty much taking care of her after the stupid crap she put herself through that got her kick out of her apartment.
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>>71149242
kinda went on a rant there, didn't you? i've no problem with seeing historical series about other nations. i'm American and would still love to see a series about the Russian side of the war. it can be told through the eyes of an American, say, a POW, or a soldier lost and picked up by the Soviets. narrative-wise, it's feasible. but, yeah, seeing that it's American production companies that make these, there'll be none of that.

>>71149483
it's been a while since those days, but, yeah, i hear you.
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It was only an issue because it literally cost an average of $10m/ep and got 700k viewers. You could have literally given each viewer who watched $10 and saved money on it.
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>>71150964
oh cmon, GoT doesnt even average 10m per ep

this was in the 2-3m tops. theres no cgi or even elaborate set pieces. its literally all costume that is readily available. not even any high dollar actors
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funny thing is this show was renewed in february and now it suddenly cancelled. sounds like behind the scenes drama that imploded and took the show with it.
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Fug. S1 definitely had its problems but it looked great, had great actors. It had a lot of potential and I was looking forward to S2.
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Shit nigga I hope they don't cancel the second season of Animals.
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>>71146461
it failed because of the expensive as fuck licensing to name drop dadrock bands. I don't know what they were thinking trying to do business with the most jewish of jew industries when they themselves should know how jews operate.

it was alright I liked it and I figured season 2 would've been better after they got all the character building out of the way.
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>>71151407
I don't think they will but this with sudden "first it was renewed then canceled later bs' I fear they could do the same thing to animals.
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>>71146714
At least they're concluding Deadwood and for that I love them. I will hold off bashing them until I've seen it.
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>>71151192
quoiting some stuff i found on google.

>The two-hour Vinyl opener is said to have cost about $30 million and the first season $100 million.

>The 70s were a rich time in music history, and Vinyl is going to take full advantage of that; the music budget alone per episode was allegedly in the six figures.

pretty crazy.
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>>71151483
Damn it. Double damn it.
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>>71149568
Are you okay with male characters having sex with females often like Tony or Don?
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>>71150542

Jobriath?
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>>71151515
I wouldn't want it to be canceled too, the animation is shit but writing and backgrounds is surprisingly decent. I was really about to dropped it too then we got the episode about the cats and the show really starred to improve.
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>>71146461

While it took them too long to get the story rolling (it didn’t really get good until almost the end of the season) I thought it was OK and could have been pretty good as it went on.

And as far as I know, it's not like HBO has some kinda hidden gem in their pocket to replace it with and being a pay-cable channel, I don't know why they're so quick to cancel series; if subscribers are willing to fork over an additional $15 or so bucks every month just for HBO, odds they'll keep paying as long as there is at least something decent on.

Going to miss Juno Temple and that 70s blue eye shadow, hopefully she gets another gig.
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>>71150542
>Fuck man I really wanted to see what happened to this guy. He was a really good singer.

Everybody Loves Raymond was going to fuck up his chances by insisting on him changing his whole style into some kinda David Bowie v2.0 probably followed by drug use and suicide.
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>>71146461
Isn't this old news?
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>>71152018
Is she suppose to be Rumors-era Stevie Nicks?
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>>71147126
>Luck
Fuck Yes. Loved that show!
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>>71151497
You wait. Ian will die before they start filming. And if that happens the movie is completely useless.
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2005 HBO was the golden age of TV.

>The Sopranos
>The Wire
>Six Feet Under
>Deadwood
>Rome
>Carnivàle
>Curb Your Enthusiasm
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