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So what was the moral?
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>>71135791
kill niggers
dont get caught
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>>71135791
prison butt fuck cures racisim
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>>71135864
Close. Prison rape turns you into a bitch, and bitches aren't racist.
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>>71135791

your personal redemption and the senseless violence in the world aren't cosmically connected. just because you learned to be a good guy now doesn't work some kind of magic that protects you and your loved ones.

life is chaos. there is no narrative leading your life.
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The moral was suppose to be that its a neverending circle since after his brother gets killed Derek was suppose to be shown standing infront a bathroom mirror shaving his head once again as the screen goes black and the credits roll.

However Edward Norton protested against it saying it was "too pro nazi" so they never did it.
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>>71135791
Black people are violent thugs and Edward Norton was right in the first place

>>71135881
Close He was a bitch before the Aryan brotherhood raped him, bitches are disloyal.
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Hate breeds hate.
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>>71135915
This would have made the entire movie. Norton is a clown
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>>71135943
Being a bitch is in his blood.
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>>71135915
>Edward Norton protested against it
flaming faggot
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>>71135915
>However Edward Norton protested against it saying it was "too pro nazi" so they never did it.

I think he was right though. People would not have understood it was portraying an unfortunate ending to things, with him being pulled back into the cycle. They would have taken it at face value assuming the protagonist is 'right', and interpreted it as meaning the movie was saying he was taking a 'correct' action.

He knew the majority of the audience would be too stupid to get it.
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>>71135987
Probably but still
>most people are retards
>lets cater to them
it's not capeshit or a summer blockbuster, whoever wrote/directed it should have had the balls to see thru their vision rather than be talked down by faggot Furlong.
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>>71135987

People would have got it m8
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NIGS GUNNA NIG
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>>71135987
But he was right
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>>71135987
... but they'd be right to think that. Unless you're advocating that the "right thing to do" is to let others kill your family while praising the love of your murders
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>>71135987
But that would've been the right reaction.
Black people are violent and in some communities skinheads are a reasonable reaction to that.
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>>71136179
How very Christian.
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Tony Kaye is a hack
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>>71136214
>realizing Blacks commit high levels of violent hate crimes against whites is edgy
>fighting back is edgy
You have to go back.
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>>71136376
And whites haven't been committing high levels of violent hate crimes against blacks for centuries? Or do you not like being blamed for the actions of other members of your race?
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>>71136214
Try to refute the argument he makes in the dinner scene. He makes perfect sense and the girl and that old guy just resorts to personal attacks and appeal to emotion.
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>>71136429
It's not about blaming anyone, it's understanding that we shouldn't choose to have millions of non-whites in our countries when they as a group just bring problems, no matter how many great individuals the group has.
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>>71136429
This doesn't happen nowadays nigger.
And that doesn't change anything. We should just let them attack us because of what our Grandparents did? Indians and Asians aren't gangjumping whites everywhere they are becoming lawyers and doctors. Why do blacks behave this way in Germany, Austria, Canada etc.?
You're using the same argument that leftists use with Islam, "sure Islam is barbaric but the crusades happened 900 years ago so we are just as bad".
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>>71136456
You mean the strawman argument? "muh social inequalities" isn't about absolving responsibility, it's about fixing the problem. On one hand you have the social concept of race, which has not been scientifically proven in any sense and the very existence of which is disputed by a majority of anthropologists, geneticists, and other scientists in relevant fields; on the other hand you have socioeconomic and cultural factors that have been clearly linked to increases in crime in a multitude of different climates throughout history. You're choosing to blame the actions of an arbitrarily defined group of people on a concept that, according to the majority of the scientific community, does not even exist at all.
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>>71136429
>muh remembrance duty
>you have to pay for your ancestors that are related to you only by the colour of your skin.
you jew?
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>>71136628
>you have to pay for your ancestors that are related to you only by the colour of your skin
I mean that's literally what you're saying to black people. Not so fair when you're on the other end I suppose
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>>71136553
Are you actually suggesting that mass deporting tens of millions of american citizens is a more reasonable task than fixing the problem of inner city crime? Christ you stormniggers are retarded
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Who could have guessed this would turn into another annoying political debate thread on /tv/

Take it to /pol/ please.
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>>71135791
>So what was the moral?
To go ahead and let dindus rob you and murder your family because being racist is totes worse.
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>>71136618
This is actually false. In the US poor white areas like the appalachias are less violent than black areas with higher income.
Apes gonna ape no matter how much liberals coddle them.
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>>71136613
>This doesn't happen nowadays nigger.
Really? Guess a pack of angry niggers should be kicking down your door and beating the shit out of your and your family as revenge for the Charleston church shooting. Unless for some reason you shouldn't be held accountable for the actions of other members of your race?
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>>71135791
that /pol/ is an echo chamber and violence breeds violence
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>>71136429
Back to the shadows, Jewrog!
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>>71136649
Holy shit you're a fucking idiot.

No one here is judging niggers on their past or even their colour but on what they do, which is severely boosting the crime rates of were they reside (and you murrikans should consider yourselves lucky, arabs are much worse).

Not that you'd actually know anything about it living in your nice city of white libertards.
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>>71135791
Daily reminder that the real ending where he goes back to being a skin was edited out
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>>71136730
>This is actually false
>socioeconomic and cultural factors
>and cultural
Guess you come from one of those poor white communities since you seem to be illiterate
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>>71136745
>/pol/ is an echo chamber
Have you actually ever gone there? You can't say anything without fifteen people telling you that you're wrong.
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Don't blow smoke on a nigger's face, unless you wanna get shot
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>>71136723
To be fair, that was the only conclusion of the question that was asked.

>>71136672
It is more reasonable because those people are the problem of inner city crime.
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>>71136761
Who is "they"? Does every nigger in the country meet up and decide on the next white girl to rape? Sounds like you're the fucking idiot since you think that blacks are responsible for the actions of people who just happen to look like them
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>>71136672
you can't fix blacks. They are animalistic by nature.
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The moral of the story from Danny's perspective was you shouldn't stand up to a bully because they might murder you.
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>>71136800
Yea it has nothing to do with growing up without a strong male influence, or a culture that glorifies crime and incarceration, or poverty, or a culture that glorifies drug use, or a poor education, or a lack of educational opportunities, or a culture that glorifies ignorance. or rampant discrimination in the judicial system, or poor nutrition, or the prevalence of gangs. it's cause they look like monkies lel
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>>71136821
>represent 12% of USA population
>represent more than half the crime
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>>71136885
>respond to a post
>don't address any of their points
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Why is this board so full of niggers?
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>>71136733
>but what about this one thing?
Great argument

>>71136765
>they have to murder because it's their culture
Why can't apes create a civil society and a culture without violence like poor whites? Feel free to continue using ad hominem because you have lost.
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>>71136882
Let me guess, whitey is to blame for nigger culture

Right?
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>>71136766
That's what I mean.

And yeah, I went there the other day and the delusion and stupidity is unbelievable.
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>>71136766
Of course he hasn't.

Liberals are too close-minded to even consider that the opposition has a point.
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>>71136905
but you just...
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>>71136618
>concept of race
>not scientifically proven
because evidence right in your face isn't enough that you need scientific input on the question.
I suppose a bulldog and a yorkshire are the same race too!
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don't be a white guy
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>>71136882
>nigger culture leads to nigger violence
>you can't blame niggers for that
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>>71136765
>Blatant ad hominem against realistic statistics
>thinks is literate.
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>>71136930
>>71136936
>>71136990
>responsibility
There's that strawman again. You're talking about a group of people that only got basic civil rights barely 50 years ago. Yea, that has something to do with it.

>you can't blame niggers for that
You can blame them all you want, but that doesn't do anything to fix the problem. Children who grow up indoctrinated by that culture will perpetuate it. Education is a good place to start
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>>71136882
So why do black fathers leave? Why does black culture glorify gang violence? Your entire post just admitted that blacks as a group are uncivilized and love violence and self destruction so I believe we are in agreement.
Or is it somehow not their responsibility?
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>>71136821
Didn't you even actually read my post? I SO saw you coming that I even addressed this point of generalisation. Seriously fucking kill yourself shitty libtard.
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>>71136969
There's been plenty of research on the subject senpai. The scientific concept of race doesn't have anything to do with it's colloquial use anyways. "African-Americans" are not a race even among anthropologists that believe race exists.
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>>71135987
The nigger killed his brother for no real reason, what would your reaction toward that be? Ayy nigger, just kill me as well, I dont give a shit about my bro

I would go full on skinhead batman as well
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>>71137038
>There's that strawman again. You're talking about a group of people that only got basic civil rights barely 50 years ago

Most of east Europe got basic civil rights 30 years ago

And what about the thousands of years prior to slavery that resulted in nothing but animalistic behaviour?

Your point?
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>>71136882
It's so easy to reverse the characters in this picture it's not even funny.
Actually in France they started doing this exact kind of stupid inverted argumentation as widespread propaganda (it's posted as ads in the subway).
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Hatred is not the answer.
Vengeance is.
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>>71137095
from someone who lives here, east europe is a fucking shithole m8. i really wouldn't use that as your example

>>71137045
because they're hateful and mistrustful since they live in a country that has tried to fuck them at every twist and turn. i mean niggers used to get strung up by trees for looking at a white girl not that long ago. if you wanna talk about blame, how the fuck can you blame a niglet who grows up without a father in the fucking ghetto, gets bullied at school for doing well on tests, all his friends join gangs and do drugs etc...?
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>>71137038
>Education is a good place to start
But blacks have full access to education in America
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>>71137045
>So why do black fathers leave? Why does black culture glorify gang violence?
well, that's a good question...i'm not gonna think about it critically and do any research into tangible factors that might lead to such things, its probably just cause they're niggers haha
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>>71137073
Research that was proven to be biased either by ideological constructs (poor's man politics) or by private fundings( propaganda for economic interests (jewish of course, see Soros)).

You got one thing right though, African-American isn't a race, because it's the name of fucking continents you massive retard.
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>>71136944
>That's what I mean.
So by your definition an echo chamber is a place where your ideas are immediately challenged by over a dozen people and not a place where your ideas are never challenged ever and are just echoed back to you?

You're retarded, /pol/ may be stupid and delusional (although really who isn't these days in politics, jesus christ the shit people come out with) but it's not an echo chamber, those are two very distinct things.
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>>71137038
M8 the Chinese and the Micks were mistreated as well and you don't see them fail at life as much as niggers do
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>>71137179
>because they're hateful and mistrustful since they live in a country that has tried to fuck them at every twist and turn
Then why didn't asians become violent, since they were just as poor as blacks when they arrived?
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>>71137201
kek are you fucking kidding me? ever been to a city school? calling them schools at all is almost a joke. american public education is fucking disgraceful
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Never direct a movie starring Ed Norton
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>>71137179
>is a fucking shithole m8.

Compared to nigger society it's a utopia and you know it

And the rest of your argument falls on it's face when you consider countries where niggers have the majority and there is no whitey to oppress them, which are a million times worse then the USA
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you and i both know that is a fucking ridiculous comparison. niggers were literally getting hanged from trees for sitting at the wrong table fifty years ago
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>>71137254
>little niggers beating up whiteys
>being civilized is ostracised on schoolgrounds
>ethincal communautarism
>liberal lessons glorifying self-hate for the white
gee I wonder why public education sucks!
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>>71136765
>Iseeyou'vemadeaspellingmistake.jpg
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>>71137307
in america maybe, that said america also eradicated the natives and you don't see 'em exploding the crime rates.
Also, niggers are a worldwide problem.
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>>71137228
Anyone who calls /pol/ an echo chamber has obvious never been on that board regardless, it's non stop arguments and baiting.

The worst thing about /pol/ is the rampant religious crap, it would be fine if it was proper discussion but it's just "you can't prove he doesn't exist!" And "what religion should I believe in?"
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Bros, It all went wrong when Lincoln decided niggers should have rights.
John Wilkes Booth did nothing wrong and he tried to warn us and Hitler was the second man of that.
>this is our future when it isn't allowed anymore to hang or spit on niggers
>mfw
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>>71137279
uh, no it really isn't. i grew up in azerbaijan and trust me, it is a fucking shithole. the whole country is disgusting and full of whores and criminals. tartars and ruski rejects are no better than niggers

>countries where niggers have the majority and there is no whitey to oppress them
which nigger majority countries have no history with white oppressors?

>>71137392
>that said america also eradicated the natives and you don't see 'em exploding the crime rates
what? native americans have insanely high crime statistics in the US

>>71137332
idk what you're trying to say. american public education sucks because of a lack of funding, overcrowding, bloated administrative salaries and stupid bullshit like the voucher system.
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>>71135791
For me the moral was this;

Being on one side of the issue or the other doesn't actually matter in the end if what you care about is making your own life better.

>The only way to win is not to play
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>>71137463
>stupid bullshit like the voucher system.
What's stupid about giving parents more control over their children's education?
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>>71135987
>He knew the majority of the audience would be too stupid to get it.

not a reason to not release the proper cut for the patricians
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>>71137463
>what? native americans have insanely high crime statistics in the US
You mean unpaid taxes from their casinos?
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Then there is this guy.
>>71137454


Don't get it too wrong man, I love you much more than libtards.
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>>71137514
it's consumerist bullshit. it takes money away from public schools that are already impoverished to begin with, and it drives up property values around good school districts which forces the middle class into mortgage debt., etc... a good public education should be your right as a citizen, making it more selective and elite only fucks your country even harder. you're not giving rich parents more choice, you're giving poor people less choice
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I reckon the moral was that we form this belief systems (gang culture in the case of the movie) not so much because it gives us control over our lives but because they make us feel like we have control over our lives. Being a neo-nazi didn't save Norton's character from jail, nor did not being a neo-nazi save his brothers life. Similarly his brothers killer isn't going to be saved by his allegiance to a gang, they're still ultimately powerless people trapped in a system they have fundamentally no control over but the belief systems they build up in their head help them to avoid dealing with this fact. It fundamentally didn't matter if Norton had his change of heart or not because the fucked up environment that produced him and people like him still existed and would continue producing the exact same problems, his personal revelation mattered only to him.

tl; dr: life isn't like a movie.
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>>71135791
>This is actually false. In the US poor white areas like the appalachias are less violent than black areas with higher income.
Population density, friend. Crime rates decrease where pop density is low. People can do their foul things like cook meth, and there are no neighbors to call the cops on them.
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>>71137073
What's actually happened is the term has become politically charged.

'Race' is a term in taxonomy (the categorization of organisms) referring to a division below that of species. It implies that the individuals are reproductively successful across the racial barrier (no significant chromosomal difference exists) but that substantial behavioral or morphological disparity is present.

Races can be divided by physiology, geography or minor chromosomal reasons. There is more than enough reasons to divide Africans from Europeans, and a staggering amount of genetic difference between Australasians (particularly papua new guinea tribesmen) and the rest of Humanity.

Race is a genuine scientific principle and sociologists can go fuck themselves.

Source - I worked as an insect taxonomist.
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>>71137618
>life isn't like a movie
Then this was a documentary.
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>>71137634
>i-it's population density why blacks commit the most amount of crime!
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>>71137454
>John Wilkes Booth did nothing wrong

Wrong, famm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp4PUJKLT6k
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>>71135915
That would have made the movie a lot better man
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>>71135791

The moral is that you wouldn't like him when he's angry.
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>>71137665
Population density is also a common argument for why Europeans brought the world into the industrial era.

I guess it's a master argument, one which can be applied to any context.
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>>71137665
>i-it's because they have more melanin, that's why blacks commit the most amount of crime!
your position doesn't sound much better senpai.
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>>71135791
That neo nazis might rape you in the ass but niggers will ice you.
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>>71137647
>Race is a genuine scientific principle
Not in anthropology it isn't. There is more genetic difference between you and your sister than between you and a papua new guinea tribesman
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>>71135791
Blacks will ruin your life
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>>71137808
So fucking your sister is preferable to race-mixing?

Got it.
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>>71137808
>Not in anthropology
>There is more genetic difference between you and your sister than between you and a papua new guinea tribesman

Yeah I'm sure he has monkey shaped skull unlike his sister.
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>>71137861
This was understood even by the ancient pharaohs.
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Moral of it is, niggers will always be niggers. He did nuffin wrong.
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>>71137876
>only obvious physical features count as genetic variance :)
Are you trying to prove to everyone how retarded you are?
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>>71137808
Nice bullshit. That's because she's female. Try brothers next time you obfuscating humanities student. Australesians run a 5 - 10% ad mixture of pre Homo sapien genes - Europeans run an average closer to 2%.

Australian aboriginals are self evidently substantially genetically divided. All you proven to me is that anthropology like sociology is no longer scientific in it's methodology.
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>>71137925
You're doing such a good job yourself I wouldn't dare trying to emulate your expertise.
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>>71137947
>That's because she's female
Really? Do you think that might be the reason?
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>>71137947
Social science is an oxymoron.
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>>71137876
Physiology and genetics aren't the same thing. An organism can have different physiology whilst still having a similar genetic make up, which qualifies it as being from a separate race in biology.

A fruit fly shares 60% of it's genes with humans - but the physiological difference is FAR LARGER.
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>>71137665
Are you really this dense?
It is a conjunction of many factors, some of which were deliberately perpetuated in order to engineer a permanent underclass. Hell, they've tried to take me down. I've been repeatedly rousted, abused and humiliated by cops even though I have been a straight arrow all my life; a good American. It really sucks to do everything right, yet still have a little pang of anxiety whenever I see a cop, because he can beat me up, invent criminal charges so he can haul me off to jail, or even take my life, and there is only a 50/50 chance he will suffer any lasting repercussions for his evil and grossly illegal acts. You can steer clear of robbers and murderers by moving to a safer neighborhood. Where can I go where there are no bad cops?
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>>71137947
>races are based on the amount of genetic differences
>my sister has far more genetic differences than someone of another race would have when compared to me
>she is still part of my race for some reason
?????

but hey since you seem to be an expert, what are some examples of qualities that one race has that are exclusively found within that race and are not found within any members of another race?
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>>71137976
>what are male chromosones

ah, yeah.
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>>71138032
>Physiology and genetics aren't the same thing
And then you think I'll get your word on anything?
No you must be right, some little imp must be sculpting us at night when we're growing up.
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>>71138047
>Where can I go where there are no bad cops?
To a safer neighbourhood? Cops don't act like "racists fascists" where there's no criminality to "justify" it.
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>>71138051
????

What is a Y chromosone? If you cant work out why this guy abused biology for his agenda then your as bad is he is.

Written language, some races developed it independently over time where as others didn't. If everyone is equal you need to explain why that happened.
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>>71138047
well that's cause you're black man and you should be held accountable for the actions of other people that share your skin color whom you have never met or interacted with in any way. the police are totally not racist assholes and are trying to keep the neighborhood SAFE by profiling you. there is literally no racial bias in our judicial system and anyone who says otherwise is a jew or a liberal

oh but don't hold me accountable for my ancestors perpetuating centuries of slavery and brutal oppression. that would be really unfair since everyone knows i can't be held accountable for the actions of my race (except for niggers ofc)
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>>71138063
So you have 6 legs and antennae?
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>>71138130
sorry i didn't see you list any example of qualities that are exclusively found within one race and are not found within any members of another. you must have forgotten, no problem man i'll wait. i'm just really curious about this classification thing is all
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>>71138173
No, I have pointy teeth and thins.
You're going way out of bounds comparing things that aren't even the same SPECIES.
No one will take you seriously anywhere outside of your libtards conventions.
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>>71138130
"that guy" is himself.
He's quoting himself through my post. Try to follow.
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>>71138188
Uhuh. I'm not a sarcastic prick what can't support my argument so I'll just check questions because that's easier than substantiating my own position. Race is a division below species, it manifests in humans in terms of build, appearance, an intelligence.

If there's no physiological difference why do africans complete dominate running? If there's no difference in intelligence how come Chinese divised complex society whilst Papuan New Guinea tribesmen ate each other?
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>>71137647
What the fuck is this pseudoscience bullshit? The only taxonomic classification beneath species for animals is subspecies. I don't think I've ever heard race used outside of botany
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This is to stormfront retards what Scarface is to rappers, completely missing the god damn point
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>>71138230
The point is the difference in body form is larger than the percentile difference in genetics dude.

Thins are pretty good, but just don't over do it on them.
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>>71138264
hey sorry you seem to keep accidentally skipping my question. i mean, it's a simple question and your answer is really necessary to prove the fact that distinct races actually exist. in order to create a legitimately classification there would have to be at least one trait that is exclusively found within that group. so if you could stop being a dodgy faggot and answer me that would really support your position (which is currently supported by nothing btw). thanks!
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>>71138314
what about skin colour, faggot?
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>>71138283
Well we used it with frogs and fish. 'Pseudoscience bullshit' these days just means 'thing that i like applying to some biological entities that don't get offended.'
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>>71138340
>exclusively
idk is a sub-saharan african the same race as a south indian and an aboriginal australian according to you? since they're all black
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White people are animals
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>>71138362
>they're all black
ho come on, are you even trying?
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>>71138377
Animals > plagues
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>>71135791
Don't be stupid.
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>>71138380
are you? you're saying dark skill color is exclusively found within members of a single race and not within any members of another race. so you must be saying all those groups of people with dark skin color are the same race
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>>71138314
So you mean that Chinese have different builds, skin tones, hair and demonstrated intellectual capability when compared to papua new guineans?

You can't tell the difference between the two? It doesn't have to be exclusive to be categorised as statistically disparate, you're deliberately creating an idealized set of parameters in order to obsfucate.

You have two choices A. Chinese and Papuans are identical or or B. Differences between the two exist that can be categorized.

If you don't like 'race' then give me a term.
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>>71138417
You're totally ignoring the various shades but whatever you've already proved that you were a secluded faggot being ideological because he was never confronted to reality. Keep living the dream.
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>>71138426
>Differences between the two exist that can be categorized.
So are you and your brother a different race? Since differences between you two can be categorized after all.

>So you mean that Chinese...
Hilarious that you STILL can't answer his question. Why is this so fucking hard for you? Is it because there no qualities that are specific to one "race" that don't exist outside of it?
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>b-but blacks are only that way because we slaved them and didn't give them rights until two generations ago and hanged them over hundred years ago

Literally take a look at Sweden. They didn't slave blacks, blacks have always been coddled, been given preferential treatment and everyone has the exact same opportunities in schooling, the economical differences are one of the lowest in the world and the social security net is amazing.

Guess what? Nigs gonna nog.
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>>71138442
So each person with a different shade of skin color is a member of a different race? There must be a lot of races out there then!

Wait a minute...looking at a picture from me last summer, I was much darker than I am right now. Holy fuck, I must have changed races since my skin color changed! Truly fascinating stuff
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>>71138442
top kek my dad has darker skin than i do. guess we're difference races! i always knew my dad was a dirty nigger

>>71138426
i'm just asking you to give me one trait that is exclusively found within members of one race and not within members of any other. i don't know why you kept inferring random shit from my posts. i'm just asking a simple question
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>>71138417
No he's saying that it can be an indicator of disparity. Other attributes that can be categorized are skull shape, facial features, musculature, skeletal differences.

All these attributes can be used by both the guy on the street (who can pick an indian from an African) to a forensic pathologists who accepts distinct physiological attributes are a thing in order to work out some one's 'not race' from their remains during investigations.
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>>71135791
it's this thread again

prison rape can redeem your aryan boipussy i guess
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>>71138483
Sweden is filled with arabs, not blacks
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>>71138539
You failed to answer my point. Are they identical or can they be categorized as two separate groups? Answer me.
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>>71138495
Wait, are you seriously thinking that playing the idiot using over exaggeration is gonna invalid anything of what I've said?
2/10
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>>71138547
yes we realize that there are clinal differences between humans. good job proving something no one was arguing about. that has nothing to do with race

>>71138569
>demanding answers when you've been dodging the same simple question for a dozen posts
you have brain damage senpai
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>>71135791
White guilt
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>>71138569
>Answer me.
Not sure you're in any position to be asking for answers to questions. Anyways, >>71138460
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>>71138460
I gave a list actually - build, skin tone, facial features, hair type. These are all atributes that can be observed. Chinese people posses an eye shape that is disparate to Papuans, due to marked difference in the shape of the eyelid. They have straight hair where Papuans have curly hair. They also have skeletal differences that can be defined anatomically.

These things are self evident if you aren't politically indoctrinated.
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>>71138569
well i'm smarter than my dad. he's taller than me but less muscular, and he has darker skin. his hair is a different color than mine. according to you that must mean we're different races. the world sure is a crazy place
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>>71138562
I didn't say that they are filled with blacks.
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>>71138314
Arguing that the common ancestry of an ethnic group is insignificant, because of socially defined racial taxonomy, is an exercise in semantics and sophistry.

There are clearly genetic markers that separate people from the opposite sites of the globe. To deny this is just silly.

What we colloquially refer to as "white" people, that is people with European ancestry, have observable common genetic markers which separate them from people south of the Equator.
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>>71138683
>I gave a list actually
You didn't give a single example of any trait that exists exclusively within members of a single "race".
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>>71138614
You can't even define the term race. It's a division below subspecies and it's still used in biology. Saying it's 'clinal' doesn't change it. All you demonstrated is semantic avoidance.
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>>71138743
Why does a single 'race' have to have attributes exclusive to itself? It need only have attributes that are not found in the group we are comparing it to.

This is how evolution works.
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>>71138744
>Saying it's 'clinal' doesn't change it.
Actually it does, since clinal differences do not form a taxonomic classification below subspecies. It's pretty obvious you have no fucking idea what you're talking about
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>>71135791
Fuck niggers to be honest, family.
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>>71138788
>Why does a single 'race' have to have attributes exclusive to itself
Are you seriously asking this question? Because it can't be a distinct classification without a single exclusive trait to differentiate it you fucking moron.
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>>71138790
No it means one can find a gradient between two different groups. What are ring species? They're clinal in nature.
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>>71138162
Nice autism but this ain't reddit
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>>71138831
Traits aren't 'exclusive' to one group! They change gradually until enough difference occurs to differentiate. I find it increasingly hard to believe you've studied evolution or biology.
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>>71138788
because otherwise you could say me and my dad are a different race because we look different. after all, we're just talking about traits that aren't shared between us right?
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>>71135791

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE NOW:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bPhONlUDO8
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>>71138685
This is that factoid about how "85% of genetic variation exists within one ethnic group" in practice.

You are very different from your dad, due to things like meiosis and individual genetic expression, but assuming that both of your parents are European, there is absolutely no chance that the two of them could spawn a child like pic related.
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>>71138875
i'm finding it increasingly hard to believe you have a brain. if i asked you to highlight exclusive traits within any universally recognized subspecies, you could point them out to me because that's what makes them a subspecies. but you can't do that with human races because those elusive traits don't exist, and without those you might as well just say that any two people that don't look identical are members of two different races.
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>>71136882
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>>71137647
Where is race on here?
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>>71138882
We're talking about traits that are found in one group that are ubiquitous within that group (Chinese eye shape) but not present with in another group, in this case Papuans.

When you categorize animals that have alot of similar traits you look for traits that are found in all members of that group and not in members of another. So if I have two species of fly i might distinguish them by differing number of spikes on their tarsi. Say five on one 7 on the other group.

I might find those five spikes on a wasp species. This doesn't make the fly and the wasp the same group, the difference between the two are many, and I can easilly divide wasps from flies by noting flies have a single set of wings and wasps have two.
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>>71138991
Under subspecies.
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>>71139076
Is it invisible?
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>All these edgy newfag teenage /pol/acks praising Nazism
Neo-/tv/ everybody
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>>71139110
>uh oh, stuff I disagree with

Yeah too bad this ain't reddit and you can't ban them
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>>71138788
>evolution
thinly veiled genocide.
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>>71138936
But then by the same reduction argument you have to argue that chinese should give birth to a child with Papuan features. They don't. Ever. I said that Chinese have feature sets that are disparate from Papuans. This is true of their breeding with in their own group. Whether or not papuans share commonality with Australian Aboriginals or Chinese with Mongols doesn't make the difference go away.

To recap. Race is a division used in biology below subspecies. When practicing taxonomy we could distinguish race by as something simple as the call of two different frog races, both from the same species. We could use this to define the distribution of the two groups.

Clinal change is a mechanism for speciation, saying humans are clinal is both true and an argument for sperate categorization of groups, not against it.
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Hitler did nothing wrong
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>>71139105
Your chart doesn't include it, but it's not invisible in biological literature, where it counts.
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>>71139159

that's the spirit
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>>71136765

No one takes you seriously when this is your response nigger
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>>71139105
>>71139076
huh, subspecies is actually just an other way to say race.
Dog is a specie of canis lupus, teckel (sausage dog) is a subspecie (race) of dog.
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>>71135791

Don't support Trump
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>>71139311
>reddit pattern
damn man, if it was so easy to identify these fuckers we'd have been safe long ago.
The best way would be to check for reddit cookies and ban on that, that would eliminate a great portion of these parasites, leaving only the most subtle or dedicated ones through the net.
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>>71139407
Hey I guess it's matter of definition. I can only comment on how I used the term professionally.
Look I don't care that the term is now politically charged and people want to change it. Race is a term we used below species when I worked on frog and insect taxonomy in the 2000s. I'm tired now after being bludgeoned by facetious humanities types desperate to prove and redefine things all the time. We just categorized stuff under microscopes. Man do i miss it.
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>>71135791
ass raped cure racism
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VIOLENCE BREEDS VIOLENCE
BUT IN THE END IT [doesn't have] TO BE THIS WAY
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>>71135791
Smoke da herb and you'll chew the curb.
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Blacks are good, Whites are evil, never forget 6,000,000
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>>71135791
The moral of the story is: "Don't join any gang-activities. Ever. Neo-Nazi gang or Black gang. Otherwise you might end up being shot in a dirty bathroom or getting brutally slaughtered on the sidewalk like your stupid ass deserves."
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>>71137093
why would go against all niggers when you can just hate/kill the one?
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>>71135943
someone fucks your asshole you stay there friend lol.
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>>71139585
Shitting on established principles built by our ancestors is the norm nowadays.

Some people (I think you can easily identify them yourself) believe changing the meaning of words (or banning them, in France they're trying to ban the usage of 'race' especially) is effective to change the way they think (or rather stop thinking).

It works to some extent as proven by the libtard in this thread.
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>>71139689
Well it does sound pretty friendly...
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>>71139668
In the movie he says 5000 years of persecutions instead of muh 6mil. But yeah, that's the spirit.
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>>71135791
Whites rapes whites.
Blacks let them leave in peace.
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>>71139712
fag
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>>71135896
i like this one
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>>71139698
They can only change speech not thought. The weird thing is they spout diversity but they are championing it's destruction.
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>>71135881
>Prison rape turns you into a bitch, and bitches aren't racist.

Spot on
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>>71136056
The movie would have had massive complaints.
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>>71136179

Yeah, let's kill a teenager fucked up in the head, this will solve all of my problems and will bring my dear dead brother back.
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>>71135791
there is a problem with the blacks but not all of them are bad

sound pretty legit to me
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>>71139923
Someone secluded faggot who never actually had to deal with these savages really can't understand the need of indiscriminate justice.
Getting rid of such a faggot is doing the civic act of protecting his next victim.

Don't worry if his next victim were you, I'd definitely let him free so you could shower him with your liberal love before he tears you a new ass hole.
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>>71137249
because they came to work. and first chance they got, the americans corralled them into ghettos. there were asian riots in america, too. when somebody fucks you, the universal response among all cultures is to fuck them back
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>>71137279

I assure you 100% that without EU aids and trade agreements Eastern Europe would be a civil-war ridden region.

Jesus Christ, there was ethnic cleansing fucking 20 years ago and you're comparing this to black community in New York?
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>>71140014
>because they came to work.
Niggers didn't?
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>>71137576

No, he means ''highest drug consume per person''. It's that bad, get your facts straight.
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>>71135791
neonazism is an immature kneejerk reaction that tries to solve everything with violence, ensuring its own demise.

literally ever film about neo nazis is about this.
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all of you are idiots what good has come from your hate they younger boy died from his hate nothing good will ever come from it and trying to justify it by the hate of other doesn't make it any better.
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>>71140035
niggers were brought here against their will. asians chose to come here to make a buck
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>>71140078
>literally ever film about neo nazis is about this.
I wonder why!
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>>71140092
>younger boy died from his hate
Yeah, he definitely didn't die from his wounds caused be the nigger who attacked as a vengeance because he had prevented to attack someone else.
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>>71140154

Yeah, let's kill that young nigger and then wait for his brothers to show up.
Then hopefully some old nazi friend will kill one of them and the cycle will keep going.

What about rehabilitating a young boy who has just killed another person? Do you really think that something like that won't traumatize you for life if not treated?

But no, let's blame the pitch of their skin.
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>>71140093
Well they're free to leave if they feel like it.
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>>71140102
I just don't understand why we still see people make movies about neonazis sometimes. the subject has been explored to its limits.
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>>71140198
At least someone is taking out the trash.
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>>71140207
because 6 000 000 donut forget
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>>71140207

How many famous neo nazi movies are out there?

I mean, I can only remember American History X and This is England.
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>>71137761
Indians have just as much melanin as Africans and they commit almost zero crime in America, negroes commit more crime because of their defective brains, not because of their skin
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>>71140263
Romper Stomper and that one with Gosling and... I think that's it.
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>>71140279

Yeah sure

>inb4 ''i was talking about indians from india''
Yeah cause Indian gangs are a thing here.
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>>71137634
>population density and poverty are the reason that blacks commit so much crime
Okay then how come even the poorest and most densely populated areas of Japan and Korea have far lower crime rates than American ghettos?
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>>71140333
Of course I was talking about Indians from India, that should have been obvious since injuns don't have black skin like people from the subcontinent, likewise the fact that there are no Indian gangs despite there being 3 million of them in America is pretty significant in itself
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>>71137093
It's what I meant, but maybe you'd go deeper down the rabbit hole after a while.
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>>71140409

But rural India is maybe worse than inner big cities in the USA.

When looking at India you're really looking at 10% educated population, 5% businessmen and 75% ignorant religious fanatic rapists.

The gang problem in the USA is related to shit education (cause you're education is shit) and poverty, there's not genetic involved.

Humans just don't do the right thing when their life has been miserable since day 1 and will keep being miserable until the day of their (early) death.
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violence begets violence you'll rarely avoid your comeuppance
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>>71140547
Almost like the logical thing would be to compare Indian immigrants to African immigrants and India to Africa.
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>>71140547
>cause you're education is shit
>you're
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>>71140263
I'd consider Kriegerin to also be essential neo-nazi core, but yeah you're right there's not that much famous ones.

the point I'm making is that especially small, european films tend to gravitate towards the subject.
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>>71140547
Rich blacks commit more crime than poor whites, a lot more. You can't just blame poverty and shit education for higher black crime rates
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>>71140835
Shit man, it's not just poor vs rich, it's all across the board without a single exception.
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>>71135791
dont be racist?
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>>71140835

>comparing a small fraction of 8% of the population to a greater fraction of 85+% of the population

That's just as arbitrary as it gets.
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>>71141073
>30 million African Americans is a small fraction
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>>71141020
Then you'll get robbed and killed.
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>>71141187
Yes but you see the statistics look a lot better when you have even more Africans in the same place. Like in Africa.
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>>71141268
>homicide rates in Africa
Jesus Christ how horrifying
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>>71141073
>comparing small fraction of population with high crime rate with huge fraction with small crime rate is unfair
What? You dumb?
That just highlights how much more violent that small fraction is. Reality is unfair, I'll give you that.
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>>71141268
You mean like how South Africa under apartheid only had an average of 140 murders per year
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>>71139844
thanks, i got it from reddit
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>>71136944
reddit, everyone. this is pure reddit.

stay there for a month before commenting, dumbass. /pol/ is this website whether you like it or not. anons shitposting with other anons. throw in the occasional fact. jesus fuck I hate reddit.
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>>71136232
Hello Muhammad
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>>71143022
Nice try, Shlomo. I'm white as snow.
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>>71137647
This is bullshit. The only instance where race means something is when talking about subspecies human engineered like in pet, in cattle and such. Nobody uses the word race to talk about natural subspecies because race is not base on scientific evidences but arbitrary conditions (colour of the fur, type of fur, size...).
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>>71135852
Why did the thread continue past this point
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>>71143617
lol faggot. I know all too well this "everybody" you're talking about. Deluded idiots living in big cities and drowning in propaganda.
The people of the country (still th majority of people) knows and don't make a big deal out of it until faggots like you try to spread their propaganda to the rest of the world.
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>>71143717
Because this board isn't pol and therefore infested with liberals.
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Hate is baggage. Life's too short to be pissed off all the time.

That's the moral.
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>>71138264
>difference why do africans complete dominate running?
You're talking about a few number of people. What is the average running time of a black African and a white European who grew up in the same conditions (because, yes, environment matters, that's why twins don't have the same performance despite having the same genetic material). Is it that different? Same question for intelligence. Because last time I checked, education and environment matter more to successfuf studies than skin color or any so-called race.
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>>71143808
>Hate is baggage. Life's too short to be pissed off all the time.

Why do you think Niggers live such shitty lives?

All that hate and blame taught to them over and over again by liberals.
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>>71135791
America is a goddamn shithole.
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>>71135967
How so?
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>>71136672

Wow why haven't we just been gene editing them like crops all along. That would be so much better and such a simple solution.
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