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>>71110256
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Azor Jon!
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>>71112360
All hail His Grace, Azor Jon of Houses Stark and Targaryen, the Prince who was Promised, the Son of Ice and Fire, the First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm.
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>>71112383
based jon

>tfw you will never follow stannis unto his death and then survive and head north to the wall and team up with based jon
JDIMSA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MehJaeTVrxI
Is that Stanni The Fucking Mannis at 0:32 ??
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guys guys, remember the second scene in e01s01 where nod stork beheads a nights watch for leaving his post :^)
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>>71112360
Everyone rank the top shipping shitposts.
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OUTTA MY WAY
BOLTON
FUCKING
SHITS

Shipping is cancer, murder yourselves.
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>>71112445
Rickon x Dickon
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>>71112429
Doubtful, the actor hates the show and said he's glad stannis is dead
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>>71112360
First for Lord Leyton Hightower

>Lord of the Hightower
>Lord of the Port
>Voice of Oldtown
>Defender of the Citadel
>Beacon of the South
>The Old Man of Oldtown
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THE WAR WAS LOST
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So Giants live beyond the wall yes?

If so, Why don't the Nights King go touch in the face and turn it into a massive giant white walker, 2 or 3 hundred of them son's o' bitches will seriously fuck the living over.
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So why did Sansa let Rickon die?
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So when Cersei sets Kings Landing ablaze, /got/ is going to explode with dozens of people saying "THE FIRE RISES", right?
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>>71112562
wights are extremely flammable, just a bigger target to set on fire
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>>71112595
of courshe
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>>71112569
Cause she wants to rule.
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>>71112595
Just the Great Sept of Baelor is going down, but probably.
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Jon Snow confirmed Targaryen from the released Season 6 Soundtrack on Pandora
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>>71112569
If she didn't, Winterfell would be off the table for her.
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LOTR Edition

http://youtu.be/YXpPOyVizcE
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>>71112606
Aye but 2 or 3 hundred of them would be fucking menacing. Seriously. Imagine it. 1 Giant could break down a castle door, Imagine a tonne of them at the wall.
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Last 2 weeks. Enjoy the general while it lasts.
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>/got/ is so stupid they literally can't follow Sansas plot and think she tried to kill Jon
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Lads ?
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>>71112294
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>>71112569

Let him? How was she to stop it? If the Vale was on the field, would Rickon not have been shot. Why can't you guys figure out she was doing everything right and nothing of ill intent.
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JON FOR FUCK'S SAKE WHERE ARE THE ARMIES?
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>>71112674
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

dont tempt me you fuck
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>>71112516
>Lord of the Shut-Ins
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>>71112674
I keep saying i see The Mannis in the trailer, now you playing me with this
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>>71110676
>Implying both Bran and Arya can survive
Her purpose is to kill him. Either she succeeds or she fails and gets killed in the process. I'd be willing to bet she succeeds AND she dies doing so.

There is only one main character alive and still "themselves" at the end of the novels: Tyrion. Dany dies in Childbirth. Jon and Sansa kill each other over the right to rule the North (Catlyn's black blood being passed on to her kids is the reason Winter returned, but Jon has the Stark blood without the Hoare taint.)

At the end of the novels there is no Hoare descendant in Winterfell, but neither is there a Stark. The child Dany dies giving birth to is Jon's, so he's a valid Stark (magic doesn't care about bastardy or patrilineage) so there's hope he'll be able to drive back the Others in the future... a Dream of Spring (and our bittersweet ending)

Screepcap this post
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Why does /got/ like this Prson Jacobs guy so much? Almost everything he says is wrong.
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Season 6 Soundtrack titles

Full track listing:

Main Titles: 1:51
Blood of My Blood: 3:35
Light of the Seven: 9:49
Needle: 2:56
Coronation: 1:46
Feed the Hounds: 3:08
My Watch Has Ended: 2:53
The Red Woman: 3:17
Hold the Door: 7:21
Khaleesi: 3:05
Maester: 2:52
A Painless Death: 3:22
Reign: 3:16
Let’s Play a Game: 5:51
Bastard: 5:05
Trust Each Other: 3:09
Winter Has Come: 3:14
Hear Me Roar: 2:16
The Winds of Winter: 3:29
Lord of Light (Bonus Track): 4:16
Service of the Gods (Bonus Track): 2:48
I Need You by My Side (Bonus Track): 2:36
The Tower (Bonus Track): 2:33
Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken (Bonus Track) 1:44
I Choose Violence (Bonus Track): 1:48
Hodor (Bonus Track): 2:24
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4283088/

10/10

Checkmate faggots
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>>71112946
It was ironic at first. Now we have actual retards.
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egg, i dreamed i was old
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>>71112946
>Almost everything he says is wrong.
About half, actually.
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l miss ramsay
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How long until America goes to bed? I can't wait to have a thread that isn't 99.8% shitposting.
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>>71112983
The score is glitched out.
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DABID
DABID
CLOSE RANGE ARCHER FIGHT DABID
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>>71112569
Literally the only logical thing she said this season.
>"Let's consider Rickon dead, because Ramsay will use him against us."
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I am so fucking dissapointed with the whole Winterfell battle.
I wasn't expecting Jon to actually win without CIA's rohirrim, but at least I was hoping he would prove that he was the superior commander and actually manage to put up a fight before CIA arrived.
Instead he acted like a complete retard, got his shit kicked by Ramsay's troops and CIA practically won the whole battle by himself.
Not to mention how the so hyped Jon vs Ramsay fight had Ramsat refusing to using anything but his bow and Jon dropping his sword because apparently only a madman would use a shield and a sword at the same time.
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>>71112949
Why do people waste so much time trying to be funny only to completely fail?
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>>71113041
In about 6 bongs, Mohammed
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>>71113123
What do you mean?
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>>71112983
The only flaw in the episode was the ridiculous timing of the hounds at the end. How long was Ramsey in there with them and they only come out at the peak of Sansas threats?
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if you liked last episode then you need to realize you have bad taste

there is no offense in this post

i just want you to take a second to read it, accept that you have bad taste, and move on with your life

people who aren't distracted by some swords clanging and cheap twists can see how poor the episode was

and it pains me that there are so few of us.

being smart is a curse. Imagine how simple would life be if we were dumb, smartbros.
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>>71113110
Hold on now. If John hadn't used his force as a meet shield to tie down and slaughter Ramsay's cavalry CIA might have taken a loss or two.
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>>71112360
What was the point of this scene?
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>>71113139
>the only flaw
>only
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>>71113161
To set up why he sticks a sword in Melly's gut next week
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>>71113161
i'm guessing you didn't see the ep.10 teaser?
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As much as I want stannis to come back there's no way he can fit into the plot after they spent the entire season shitting on him
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>>71113150
But they managed to get a grim af fighting scene going, whis is nicer than alot of other things happening this season cough arya arc cough
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>>71112925
>Screepcap this post
Nah because that's all stupid. Sorry.
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>>71113190
They wouldn't bring him back anyway. They set him up as a guy people were excited to see die. It's really unfortunate given that he was a pretty cool dude in the books.
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>>71113028
I'm gonna miss this sadistic smile.
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Was anyone else pissed off that Rickon was running in a straight line? How stupid can you get, you're just asking to be shot
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>>71113038
>complains about shitposting in a shitpost
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>>71112459
LyannaMormontridingthroughtheValleyofDeath.jpg
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>>71113220
The only people that wanted to see him die were Tumblr fags

No normies cared about him
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>>71113176
Things can be a 10/10 and still have flaws
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>>71113150
if you posted 'if you liked last episode then you need to realize you have bad taste

there is no offense in this post

i just want you to take a second to read it, accept that you have bad taste, and move on with your life

people who aren't distracted by some swords clanging and cheap twists can see how poor the episode was

and it pains me that there are so few of us.

being smart is a curse. Imagine how simple would life be if we were dumb, smartbros' then you need to realize you have bad taste

there is no offense in this post

i just want you to take a second to read it, accept that you have bad taste, and move on with your life

people who aren't distracted by some swords clanging and cheap twists can see how poor the episode was

and it pains me that there are so few of us.

being smart is a curse. Imagine how simple would life be if we were dumb, smartbros.
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>>71113284
no
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>You now realize that everything that has transpired in Game of Thrones™ since Season 1 has been according to her master plan, including the beheading of her father.

She rused us all, bros.
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>>71113086

Everything she has done this season has been smart. Her warnings to Jon about how Ramsey will trick and and witholding the Vale from him were brilliant moves. If the Vale were on the field or not any plan they had would be spoiled by Ramsey using Rickon to get Jon to fuck up. She knew he would play psychological games with him because that's what he does. If she told him about the Vale he would have pulled them into the same mess he did the rest of his force. It wasn't because she wanted Jon or Rickon dead it's because she saw the situation for exactly what it was.
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>>71113150
>mfw 14 year old autists think they are geniuses for caring too much about relatively minor flaws in a fantasy TV show
holy shit
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>>71112648
how was lotr so good ;_;. we need a game of thrones trilogy following Jamie Bran and Sansa.
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Yfw you realize Jon and Tyrion are revealed as Targaryeons and they mount the other 2 dragons and ride them into battle
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>>71113280
>tumblr fags
You mean what the world has basically become?
I recently saw a Facebook post on an article where an old white woman actress tells white male actors to 'shut up'.
Most of my friends on Facebook are ignorant hillbillies. Welcome to the 21st century.
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How is Jon supposed to lead humanity in the fight against the White Walkers when he can't even fight 6000 regular human faggots without completely fucking up?
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>>71113284
....

you do now that 10/10 is supposed to be absolute perfection, right?
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>>71113231
yes I was pissed but wasnt it obvious he would run like that? everyone knew before that he'll die
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>>71113176

Every other flaw I hear complain about on here are them simply being so jaded they can't see clearly and making up flaws. Like everyone completely not understanding Sansa brilliant moves.
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>>71113341
le 3 heads of de drogon
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>>71113352
It's a solid 5/7
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>>71113323
Getting raped was a touch of genius. No one would suspect ....
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>>71113352
>....
>10/10 is absolute perfection

holy fuck actually kill yourself you piece of shit
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Cool battles, but everything else felt like a fucking soap opera.

God damnit Ramsey has to be the dullest character in the show.
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how small is azor jon's pecker?
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>>71113379
Darth influenza based.
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>>71113352
No because absolute perfection does not exist. 10/10 is the best we can hope to achieve.
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>>71113383

am i being rused? is this a ruse? i can't handle this if it's a ruse
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>only one more ep

how will they finish anything? who wins game of thrones?

how many seasons can they realistically have?
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>>71113418
are you actually autistic or are you just a stupid fuck?
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>>71113420
1.35 More seasons
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>>71113342
>I recently saw a Facebook post on an article where an old white woman actress tells white male actors to 'shut up'.
I'm sure there's some context we're missing because that's just stupid and it shouldn't effect you as much as it has.
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>>71113329

Seriously, this board is jaded beyond hope.
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>>71113420
>how many seasons can they realistically have
Four.
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>>71112429
It's Lancel you deluded nut
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>>71113452
says the person giving a 10/10 to one of the weakest episodes in the entire series
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>>71112360
That was the best single still shot of the season.
I'm glad Davos has made it this far. Cunningham is one of the last reasons I still watch the show.
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>>71113455
“There are still so many movies made starring 50 men and one woman,” the “Learning to Drive” actress told The Guardian. “A white male actor should never be allowed to complain about anything. Shut up and sit in the corner. I mean, seriously.”
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>>71113420

We only are getting 13 more episodes. Next seasons will be shot.
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Why couldn't Jon and Ramsay have a sword fight like the one he had with Fooking Legend?
Ramsay says that he doesn't want to because apparently Jon is the new Jaime Lannister now, but that's a fucking lie and hadn't been shown or mentioned before, so it feels like a cheap excuse.
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>>71113329
>>71113460

I've come to accept that the show moved from being a good adaption of the books to using the goods as general guidelines and turning it into hollywood sadfest of action that people like you really love.

If you actually cared about characters and not shitty battles, you'd agree with me. But it's clear as crystal where your priorities are, and no matter how many good points i bring up, they will always be answered with "dude why you take it so serious lmao??"
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>>71113490
that's some nice contarianism, you are really unique.
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>>71112674
there wasn't enough time for him to grow all that hair rofl
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>>71113526

The north would have definitely heard about Jon and the battle at the wall. To hear he defended it from 100,000 wilidngs will make you an instant legend.
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>>71113572
no really, if you like this episode you are pretty much everything wrong with the current fanbase of this show
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>Will your men be willing to fight for you when they find out you weren't willing to fight for them?
>If the tide of battle turns, his men will turn on him.

>instead Ramsay's men put up with having all of their cavalry killed by his hand and fight for him to the last man
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>>71112726
You know just telling Jon to delay the battle for a day, so that she could teleport the Knights of the Vale at their position, instead of just bitching at Jon and keeping it a secret.
She hoped that Jon and Rickon would die or at least that those loyal to Jon would get decimated and broken.
She believes that she can play the Game of Thrones and secured her rule over the North, while she actually gave the North to CIA.
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>>71113452
>>71113490
You're both fucking retards. Look at what you're arguing over, you pathetic children.
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>>71113562
you are a total self-aggrandizing cunt.
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>>71113579
There is never any reference of how much time has passed in the show. That is why you fucks complain about "teleporting" so much. You don't realize that things aren't strictly chronological.
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>>71113562

Action? There's less action in the show than in the books you miserable twat.
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>"If I could pray with my cock, I'd be much more religious"
What did he mean by this?
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NEED MORE ISSAC PICS
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>>71113598
I bet you cried at the hold the door moment you fucking pleb
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>>71113623

No, im simply right.
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I can see why episode 9 got picked apart so much, but isn't it pretty agreeable that it had the best moments of the season so far?

I mean besides MADNESS scene
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>>71113562
So when you read the battle scenes in the books did you go "what is this hollywood shit!? Where's the book I know and love!?"
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>>71112674
Merlin in King Arthur
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>>71113517
Yeah see you even tried to make it worse by implying she was talking to actual people, but she's just bitching in general. Who the fuck cares?
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>>71113654
You're confusing your autism with facts
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>>71113652
yes you caught me, i posted my tears on reddit too and got upvotes
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>>71113643
Is that supposed to be Tyrion?
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>Daenerys will conquer Westeros
>Yara will become Queen of the Iron Islands when this happens
>Sansa will soon become ruler of both the North, the Vale and the Riverlands
>Dorne is ruled by the sand sneks and they'll probably make an alliance with Dany
>no one gives a fuck about the Stormlands
Strong wymen master plan confirmed.
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>>71113609

Not at all. She told Jon Ramsey would play psychological games with him using Rickon. He would get him to fuck up and that's exactly why she withheld the Vale from him. If they were on the field they would have ended up in the same position of Jon fucking up whatever plan they had and lost. Keeping them from Jon is the only reason they won.
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>>71113615
>look at me I'm so fucking mature on 4chan
off yourself
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>>71113631
>stannisfag STILL in denial
it's cute really. besides Baelish's private jets, most things are pretty chronological. it isn't like the books at all really.
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>>71113361
I knew he was going to die because he'd been missing for too long to do anything with him, like marcela, but I thought he'd at least try not to be useless
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>>71112661
Most of the Giants have already probably died and rotted by now.
>Why don't they just
It's writing. If the villains chose the most efficient way possible to do things the good guys would lose because they're usually the underdogs.
>but muh logic!
I don't know if Fat Man kept track of how many giants there were alive in the North when the WWs came back, but assuming he didn't, only the ones that he decides on a whim to exist, do. There should be consistency, yes, but it all should ultimately serve the chosen plot.
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>Episode 9 was one of the worst in the series
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>>71113649
Fuck off faggot
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>>71112429

Jorah perhaps?
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I hope Euron fucking decimates Yara and Theon
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>>71113765
pretty sure wun wun is the last of the giants, i don't think there are any more
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>>71113667
>>71113632

You mean the battle scenes that made complete sense? Why would i pick on them?

This fight was fucking horrible. From a tactics standpoint, to everything. Pile of corpses forming on the battlefield? What the FUCK is this? Cavalry charging against cavalry? Boltons managing to encircle the wildlings because they just sit there watching?

It was terrible.

>>71113704

You are confusing pathetic insults with arguments.
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>>71113231

Yes. He EASILY could have fucking lived, had he ran forward erratically. When your life is in the balance, you fucking think of this shit. But that just wouldn't fit the narrative now, would it?
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>>71113765
There are still giants past the wall, Wun Wun was the last of them that chose to follow Mance.
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>>71113780
Get ready I'm gonna trigger the fuck out of these guys.

That battle scene was one of the most interesting Medieval style battles I've ever seen on film.
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>>71113603

This.

THIS.

All that time setting up that Ramsay's men have no loyalty...only to never show a single man even hesitate to die for him.

Friendly fire has literally turned the tide of battles before, to have the men and lords just be like "Oh Ramsay, you scamp!" and keep fighting is so fucking retarded.
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>>71113745
It's not called being mature it's called not being a fucking autistic child
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>>71112445

For you.
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I wonder if Cersei's trial by combat is yet another change from the books. It seems like it's really going to happen in TWOW.
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>>71113797
>he thinks any of these are valid complaints
>he genuinely doesn't understand any of these
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>>71113786
Someone already said Lancel, and they are most likely right, you can see the chains on him.
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>>71113838
I was expecting Ser Twenty to betray him after that "We have no army" conversation.
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>>71113816

You'd be wrong, it was hilariously stupid and incorrect. Thanks for playing.
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>>71113780
>typical cliche after cliche battlefield crap
>muh visceral battle
>muh chaos
>muh saving private ryan rip off
>muh braveheart rip off
>muh HISTORICALLY ACCURATE (!!!) pile of bodies
>muh vale knights saving the day

bravo D&D
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>>71113797
Bodies pile up like that in real battles. Not THAT high but this is fantasy and it's suposed to be fantastical. And everything went the way it did because Jon fucked up. The calvary was not supposed to charge but Jon forced them too. Seriously, it's amazing how you guys mistake your stupidity for intelligence. Take it down a notch faggot.
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>>71113846
>not
>being
>a
>fucking
>autistic
>child
could've fooled me.
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>>71113905
That's because a 2 year old could fool you, kid.
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>>71113895
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>>71113231
>running serpentine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdaQHTWT_ZI
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>>71113899
> Not THAT high but this is fantasy and it's suposed to be fantastical
That''s pure bullshit.
Even when magic, zombies and dragons are involved, fantasy still has to follow some sort of logic or rules.
Just because Melysandre can shit shadow demons it doesn't mean that logic can be thrown out of the window and any stupid writing be justified with "it's fantasy lol".
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If you legitimately didn't enjoy episode 9, I feel sorry for you
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>>71113942
>Got him!
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>>71113882
Lol he basically said he was baiting and you still took it. This is why trolling is still a thing, despite most normies knowing how to combat it.
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>>71113899
>Bodies pile up like that in real battles.

stop repeating this, they don't in that type of battle. use common sense a bit and think about how a pile of bodies like that occurs
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>>71113899

>Bodies pile up like that in real battles.

PIC RELATED LMAO

> Not THAT high but this is fantasy and it's suposed to be fantastical

It's supposed to be fantastical that doesn't mean it must be retarded. If Jon Snow starts flying and breathing fire would you just go "it's fantastical man" NO YOU FUCKING WOULDN'T

>Seriously, it's amazing how you guys mistake your stupidity for intelligence. Take it down a notch faggot.

The cavalry charge is one of the smallest complaints of the episode.

And a person who claims body piles that high do happen has no fucking place telling others they are stupid. Get the FUCK out of here, ignorant cunt.
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>>71113980
This honestly, it's as if their lives revolve around being permanent cynics
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>>71113110
Jon rushing into battle like that showed resolve and made his relatively small army much stronger than it would have been otherwise. You think those wildlings would support a commander who just stands around while his brother gets killed? They don't give a shit about intelligent planning, they're just warriors. And he dropped his sword because he didn't need it. In fact, it would have been dead weight.
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>>71113526
Because Ramsey knew he would lose. Ramsey was smart and played with his strengths. That was certainly preferable to him taking off his shirt and dual wielding axes in melee.
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>>71114027

Thousands of men were slaughtered by Ramseys arrows. Bodies would have been piled. YOU use common sense.
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Episode 9 was near perfect honestly, but it peaked before the battle even started.
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>>71113980
Well sure it was a good episode, but a lot of parts in it was extremely fucking contrived and stupid.

Felt like I was watching Xena.
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>>71112606
He actually described creating Giant White Walkers, they already have Giant Wights.
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>>71113987
>Got him!
Sick burn kid. You gonna tell your friends at school about that one?
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>>71114033

when the claim is so stupid you forgot to attach a pic
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>>71114036
>>71113980

Yeah, I've noticed it but holy shit it's gotten bad now. These guys are intentionally trying to make plot point that make sense make no sense and acting like some minor details completely ruin the show. It's a pathetic display, really.
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>>71114094
you don't have any self-awareness do you?
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>>71114072
yep you're literally retarded

for a pile of bodies to get like that the men fighting would have to continuously climb on top of them, die, and then more men would climb on to them, and die

common sense would tell you no one would fucking do that. at most you get something like 2-4 people laying on top of each other dead, and everyone else moves off to the side to fight where they aren't stepping on dead fucking bodies
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Preston when
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>>71114092

Problem is you guys assume this going into every single scene and are on the lookout for things to nitpick about.
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>show is flawed as fuck
>autistically sperg out over things that aren't even a big deal
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>>71114061
>Jon rushing into battle like that showed resolve and made his relatively small army much stronger than it would have been otherwise
No, it showed stupidity and fucked them over.

>You think those wildlings would support a commander who just stands around while his brother gets killed? They don't give a shit about intelligent planning, they're just warriors.
They give a shit about surviving and thet never even mentioned that they wouldn't follow a man just because he allowed his brother to get killed.

>And he dropped his sword because he didn't need it. In fact, it would have been dead weight.
No it wouldn't. If Ramsay didn't become retarded too and choose to use a sword, Jon would have been fucked.
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HE'S ALIVE
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>>71114121

>Moat cailin being controlled by the Vale Knights for months and not a single North lord knowing this is a minor plot point
>the knights marching towards Wintefell on a trip that took weeks at minimum is a minor plot point

im going to fucking rip your lips off you braindead fuck
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>>71113899
Bodies pile up in choke points or beneath walls, not in open battle. At best they were an impediment. In the show they became a 7ft high walls.

This is what happens when writers are told a retard version of the battle of Cannae.
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>>71113603
Yeah but how many of Ramsay's men were actually around to hear that line? A few of his top guys? The ones who probably do very little fighting themselves? The ones who aren't complete retards and know very well that wars are fought through numbers and planning?
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>We've reached a point where people are defending Jon's retarded Leeroy Jenkins charge as "intelligent" and "preserving his honor"
Holy shit boys
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I just watched it, why is everyone jizzing themselves over it?

Sure, the battle had some nice cinematography, but the climactic moment is copied from a fucking oscar winning movie we all know.

And how can you look past the dozens of plotholes, including:

>Over a thousand archers miss Jon Snow, considering he is well within range for a direct shot and not some volley
>62ish cavalrymen somehow face off and engage in a prolonged battle with what must be close to a thousand
>corpses somehow form a semicircle with people, for some reason, fighting on top of more corpses to make it a high wall
>Sansa doesn't tell Jon to wait for the buttfuckload of cavalry she is bringing, which would have saved her brother, possibly her other brother and a huge army that she can later rely on
>phalanx and infantry from the behind take about an hour to slaughter several hundred barely armored men
>Ramsey doesn't shoot fucking Jon who is standing right there and instead chooses to shoot the giant who is practically dead
>no one shoots Ramsey despite the fact that he might kill their commander
>Ramsey, presumably a cunning man and a brilliant archer, keeps aiming for Jon's head and not his legs
>Jon doesn't beat the crap out of Sansa for practically killing all his men

It just completely killed any sense of immersion I had.
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>>71113150
Shit writing, fucking incredible direction though. You can appreciate the good in something without ignoring the bad.
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>mfw stannis is shown alive in s6 ep10 cliffhanger
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>>71114230

Welcome to the new Got fanbase. Enjoy sharing the board with people who don't care about shit writing as long as they get "cool battles" like this.

Makes me want to vomit.
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>>71114230
>>Over a thousand archers miss Jon Snow, considering he is well within range for a direct shot and not some volley
>plothole
stopped reading there, what a waste of a post.
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>>71114033
>And a person who claims body piles that high do happen has no fucking place telling others they are stupid. Get the FUCK out of here, ignorant cunt.
I can't believe how many of you have actually been in a medieval battle. It's amazing you survived to share your unparalleled knowledge on battlefield casualties and exactly how the corpses should be!
But seriously, if you think you have any insight to this WITHOUT being in a medieval battle, I feel sorry for you. You're the type of person people would literally get up and walk away from irl.
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The Bolton army was impressive, you gotta admit. That set up to the battle was intense. Those fuckers even took the time to set up burning corpses for intimidation.
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>>71114273
They played Total War 2 once and think they are historians.
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>>71114266
That is a plothole, it is not possible for that many archers to miss a single fucking man
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>>71114154
Hard to be on the lookout for things that are right in your fucking face.

Well unless you're a complete moron who lap anything up with cool battlescenes ofcourse.
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>>71113323
>theta necklace
PRESTOOOOOOON!
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>>71114206
Well the Vale wasn't at active war with any Northern house.
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>>71114222
The point is they've been heavily foreshadowing that Ramsay's reckless and psychopathic behavior would cause problems for him. Roose told him as such, they showed that the Umbers knew he was a kinslayer and are ONLY working with him to fight the wildlings, Davos' line, Jon's little line right before the battle, and a bunch of other shit I've probably forgotten about.

None of this happens and his men die like lemmings. He literally teamkills his entire cavalry and nobody bats an eyelash.
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>>71114206
>im going to fucking rip your lips off you braindead fuck

fucking kek

How did you ever like the show to begin with? If none of you were on this board you wouldn't even care. You listen to much to other peoples opinions.
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>>71114295
>>71114295
>That is a plothole, it is not possible for that many archers to miss a single fucking man
this is b8 right?
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>>71114225
>>We've reached a point where people are defending Jon's retarded Leeroy Jenkins charge as "intelligent" and "preserving his honor"
Literally haven't seen one person do that.
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>>71114225

>Le Fat Nerd Contrarians

You guys are like Jesus, never failing to arrive after 3 days and inject your useless fat nerd opinions on everything
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>>71113805
I am one of the smartest people you know and I wouldn't think to zig zag. It never even crossed my mind.
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>>71114265

Find a hobby.
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>>71114230
Ramsey not shooting Jon means he would've had some very slight chance of survival. Although he then tried to kill Jon so there we are.
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>>71113603
Ramsay is a telepath. He would be Bran-tier if he had a near-death experience.
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>>71114273
>>71114294
Give me a reasonable explanation for why you would go up to a body and stand up on it in order to fight someone.
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The absolute autism in this thread is making me feel a little ill. It's like I'm talking to a bunch of borderline suicidal virgins or something.
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>>71114308

Ah good then, let them occupy Moat callin for no reason then.

>>71114325


>How did you ever like the show to begin with?

Because it had good writing and made sense, Are you stupid asking these questions? Why did YOU even start watching it? For cool clang clang?

>>71114354

Find an argument, shitstain.

>>71114294
>>71114273

You are so hilariously sad in your ignorance goddamn
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>>71114230
I LOVE HOW GRITTY AND REALISTIC GAME OF THRONES IS, IT'S THE MAIN DRAW OF THE SERIES
>something completely retarded and illogical happens
DUDE IT'S JUST FANTASY TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF BRO
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>>71114273
hmm ok, lets use your logic and basically just forget about written history because we all haven't been in a medieval battle, or hell, even a modern battle. nope, it's all wrong, only experience matters and no one knows what they are talking about
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>>71114294
Sounds about right
>look! Look at these pixels! See? NO FUCKIN PILES
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>>71114394
They could've been saying they were on an expedition or something.
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>>71114225

He was always going to try to save Rickon. How could he not? Sansa knew this and it's why she kept the Vale from him. He would have led them into disaster.
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>It's a the main characters are literally immortal and have plotarmor as thick as VY Canis Majoris diameter episode
Since D&D ran out of book material they quality of this thing is horrendous
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>>71114341
Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about

Oh wait there's one
>>71114061
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>>71114373
Because your enemy is behind it?
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>>71112360
>the war was lost
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>>71113150
I agree. Worst episode in the series. Represent everything bad this show has become.
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>"Just turn your brain off, bro" the thread

Is this how got dies?

Is this the turning point where people will just gloss over shit writing?

>>71114433

Just who the fuck are you? Are you a literal normie chad? Do you even know that there are records made by people who were alive during medieval battles? That not a single case of pyramid corpses has ever happened? Do you think trying to sound witty and making normie chad jokes will prove you right?

Just leave. You don't need to argue at all. Just enjoy the shit episode and be happy, let people who have taste discuss.
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>>71114469
wow

i just have no words
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Calling it, Sansa will continue to be a bitch to Jon and especially think he's naive stupid and unfit cause he'll probably forgive all of the Lords who didn't answer their calls and even let Alys Karstark live and marry off Smalljon's sisters to Wildlings instead of completely exterminating their Houses.

Pic related is probably Jon telling her that they (both her and Jon and the North) need to trust each other cause they have so many enemies like the South and the Walkers.
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>>71112674
someone explain this pic pls
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>>71114324
best character and actress of this season.
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>>71113980

Pretty much this. It's like some people just want to hate stuff.
Clearly it's popcorn entertainment but god damn it if that wasn't one of the highest budget TV episodes ever. The sheer scale of this episode is impressive on it's own.
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>>71114485
>this entire post

Why is it when autists can finally apply their limited knowledge they think they are the only ones who notice these flaws?
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>>71114469
And you can't just walk around it because?
And I'm not talking about the huge body wall out of nowhere, I'm talking about the small pile of corpses upon which people would have to climb, fight and die in order to make the wall of corpses.
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>>71114485
>Is this how got dies?
>Is this the turning point where people will just gloss over shit writing?

got died in season 5. we are living in a post apocalyptic got universe now

i'll be glad when this shit show finale airs next week and all these threads are immediately banned
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>>71113603
>Not having Ramsey and Jon participate in a great sword fight

Why was this so hard to do? Couldn't they have had Ramsey die with some dignity? Instead of being a retard with a bow?
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>>71114419
>written history
K I'm gonna need a source that says bodies never pile up in battle then, Mr History Major
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>>71113603
Fear makes good loyalty. Also, in medieval battles the infantry was rarely taken prisoner and mostly just put to the sword after the battle so the infantrymen mutineering against him would've earned nothing. If Ramsey won, he would've flayed them for cowardice.
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>>71114517
Lord Flameheart
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>>71114538
You do realize horses and corpses strewn all over the place would be hard to circumvent during a battle?
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>>71114549
k i'm gonna need a source that says bodies on open terrain pile up 10 feet high and 8 feet thick then, mr shitposting major
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>>71114488

Clearly.
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>>71113324
speculation : the post

Jon suicidal charge isn't exactly out of place, this battle was suicide anyway. 2k against like 6k with a cavalry?

But if Jon actually knew the battle wasn't suicide (because they were actually 12k vs 6k, with a much larger cavalry) he might not have charged like a retard.

If you guys aren't just trolling, or the sansa internet defense force, you have it seriously backward.

That's like a blind person crossing the street and getting ran over by a truck. Then someone asks you why you didn't warn him? and you reply "Well he died, why should I waste my words on someone about to die? Waste of time".

Yeah that's the point, he would NOT have died if you warned him.

Same shit here.
Jon might not have rushed like a retard if he knew he was actually the favorite to win the battle. But (if he has any goddamn sense) he knew they were basically all rushing ot their death in a desperate attempt. So it didn't matter.
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I don't understand why they are stretching sams story out so far.

Anyone care to attempt to explain?
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>>71114542
Ramsey was a coward,is that hard to understand?
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>>71114517
>>71112674
nvm found it myself
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>>71114529
But I don't watch GoT for popcorn entertainment. There's a million other shows for that.

I watch GoT for interesting dialogue and clever mindgames. What it used to be praised for.
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>>71114505

Sansa was right about everything.

>REEEEEE fuck feminsim!!
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Anyone else think Wun Wun might of lived? He is a giant after all
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>>71114594
He's had like one scene this entire season m8
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>>71114564
Except it doesn't since fear can't be tuned up endlessly. This is not how feudal societies worked.
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>>71114530
Most normal people really don't mind flaws in tv shows, just talked to a normie buddy of mine who said that this episode was amazing, one of the best even, all due to the fight
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>>71114542
Ramsay's better with a bow and the pottery of him trying to kill Jon using a bow and arrow like how he killed Rickon while Jon blocks every shot is too pottery to ignore
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>>71114601
>I watch GoT for interesting dialogue and clever mindgames

GOLD IS POWER, NO POWER IS POWER, NO FIRE IS POWER.
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>>71114351
>I am one of the smartest people you know

lmao
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>>71114320
Agreed. His defeat comes from an out of nowhere attack, not his own reckless behavior, so all that foreshadowing was wasted.
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>>71114564
Fear ensures loyalty as long as you are actually capable of doing shit to your subordinates, which was the whole point of that "If the tide of the battle turns, Ramsay is fucked" line.
The moment it was obvious that Ramsay would lose, his men would choose to flee and avoid death rather than fight till the end for a psychopathic manchild who forced them to fight for him.
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>>71114539

But i feel like im living in bizarro world. Episode 8 was widely hated because it was fucking stupid. Arya made no sense, it was just shitty.

Now the same thing happens with 9, but a battle somehow cancels out the crap writing and people just give it 10/10?

Is this how we rate got now? This is what ASOIAF's story is about? This is why people watch it? Battles?

Not well done characters? A believable world? Realistic approach to storytelling, instead of going for the rule of cool?

D&D are killing what asoiaf truly means.

>>71114530

You keep calling it autism when really it's just passion for the source material. I can understand that you do not care, you probably didnt even read the books and can only remember the names of the main cast, but others care more.
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>>71114587
>he might not have charged like a retard.

He wouldn't have run after Rickon? Why not? Of course he would have. Sansa knew he was going to use Rickon as bait and warned Jon. Their side would have fallen into chaos with no direction and they would have got mopped up. Also, can anyone give me a source on how many mounts the Vale had? I've heard a range of 2k to 45k. Book numbers do not count.
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>>71114538
Really? Either the phalanx forced them there or the pile is from people trying to escape it. Pretty simple.
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>>71114600
fuck you

delete this
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>>71114604
It was pretty obvious that someone had to die in the battle and it was the giant obviously
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>>71114061
0/10
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>>71114652
The battle wasn't even terribly good. Aside from great cinematography on the shots following Jon, the rest was pretty stupid.
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>>71113667
No, the book actually has a lot of great scenes with very little plot holes, and the battles are just a plus to that.

The show (especially season 6) is FILLED with glaring plotholes and inconsistencies (like davos character doing a 180 about everything this season) and a big action scene doesn't make up for that.

I know bookfags have a rep of whining about everything that isn't like the books, and that's probably deserved, but this season the show doesn't make sense WITH ITSELF.

You don't have to complain that the Arya scene didn't happen like the books.. It just doesn't make sense at all and wouldn't make sense even if there were no books.
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>>71114569
They are fighting in a hugeass plain, not in a fucking corridor, they literally have no reason to not go around or even jump past the bodies and advance instead of focusing in a point and dying one on top of another till they build a huge wall.
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>>71114601

But didn't that stop being the case a couple of seasons ago? I enjoy that aspect of the show too, but that part fizzled out years ago.
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>>71114652
>You keep calling it autism when really it's just passion for the source material.
No, it's fucking autism. You aren't special for noticing these flaws, you are just autistic for pretending they are such huge flaws.
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>>71114607
Yeah. Why are they stretching it out so far was the question.
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>>71114603
>doesn't give Jon any insight until literally the night before
>doesn't tell him Rickon's a lost cause until the night before battle
>doesn't tell Jon about contacting Vale forces he could've planned with to have attack from the back mid battle but before his own army got slaughtered
>doesn't tell Jon how she learned about Riverrun even after Brienne calls her out
>is somehow right

No
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>>71114604
All the CGI budget was going into the dragons, man. You like the dragon scenes, right?
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>>71114652
Fucking A.
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>>71114572
Good try but it's pretty clear now you have absolutely nothing.
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>>71114691
The thing is, I'm not even a bookfag and I'm constantly told "hurr durr bookfag".

Is it because I ask for fucking half-decent quality writing?

Because let's face it, GoT has campy AXN sci-fi tier writing.
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>>71114659
>Also, can anyone give me a source on how many mounts the Vale had?
not 100% sure I seem to recall LF talking about 10k men waiting at Moat Cailin.
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>>71114694
>this is the guy who is complaining about the logistics of the battle and how it's nonsensical.
my god
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>>71114713
I loved that dragon scene man, nothing more fun than watching 3 awkward dragons burning 1 ship for 20 fucking minutes, while every other ship just watches in peace
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>>71114712
That'll be Night King's job.

Hundreds of skeletons complete with weapons await him
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>>71114696
For me it stopped around the time Oberyn died. After that everything suddenly didn't feel as thought out as it used to be.
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>>71114685

To add on that, there wasn't a single moment where i was worried for Jon or his victory. They just kept hammering over and over that the Vale army was coming. It was expected. it wasn't even a twist.

And jon was just resurrected the same season. he wasn't gonna die. He still had to learn of his parentage. He was 100% safe.

>>71114699

Just stop, man. You look silly when you try to use that word.
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>>71114707
how are they stretching it out? he had one scene of stealing the sword and he'll appear again whenever randyll needs to come into the story.
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>>71114756
Well I'm glad you like them because the final season is going to be 9 episodes of sloppy shit with 1 full episode of CGI dragons burning CGI wights.
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>>71114756

>20 minutes
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>>71114610
>this is not how feudal societies worked
If you turned on your commander you were killed. If you ran away from the army you were killed.

Ramsey's rule mught've not been popular but either his soldiers where used to cruelty under Roose or they were forced to tolerate that under the pain of death. You can see the military officer kinda sad when he realizes what Ramsay intends to do with Rickon but he does it anyway.
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>>71114797
You are so fucking stupid, not even trying to insult you i'm just shocked.
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>>71114802
Hell yeah man, can't wait
>>71114803
You're right it felt more like a fucking eternity
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>>71114803
Oh watch out guys. This genius can identify obvious exaggerations!
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>>71114798
>>71114798
>how are they stretching it out?

Are you retarded, lad? Instead of him just showing up in oldtown in like episode 2 or 3 he's still not there yet. How is that not stretching it out?

Goddamn, m8 are you daft or just being willfully ignorant? I bet your mum is right proud of you when you can actually tie your shoes without help.
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>>71114829
But why would they still fear Ramsay when he has obviously lost the battle and doesn't have the power to do shit to them?
If he rules through fear then the moment the Vale knights showed up his troops should have fled and left him alone to die.
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>>71114542
Ramsay was a good archer. He stuck to his strengths. He was first seen in combat using a longbow around Season 3 when he saved Theon from getting assraped.
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>>71114797
This is what happens when autism goes unchecked
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>>71114736
that's the thing, showfags think the ONLY reason people ever complained about the show is that it doesn't follow the book 100%.

While some complains comes from that (cutting great characters, or great speeches, comfy scenes, stuff like that) for the most part we hate things that don't make sense. And yeah, sometime we hate character assassination and that's close to "don't like it because that's not like the books" but at some point it has to be SOMEWHAT like the books...

I mean people say we're just whiny fucks because we complain Stannis and Jaime aren't like that in the books, but if Tyrion was a serial rapist or Daenerys was burning children for fun, they'd complain the exact same fucking way, because now it'd THEIR characters that are getting fucked up by shitty writing.
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>>71112739
I dont know sis just use yours.
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>>71114890
the irony of this post
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so seeing as we're talking about battle shit and all these dead bodies piling up:

alright, so lets just say i'm in a formation, like some shield wall type of deal with ranks, what happens if the guy holding the shield in front of me who is attacking the enemy gets hit in the leg, or dies, and he falls to the ground, and his body is blocking me and there's now a hole in the wall.

do i just...walk over his body? that would be kind of awkward
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>>71114897
Not that anon but flee to where?

Ramsay's troops were already getting killed by the Vale, the other ones were at Winterfell.

They're already fucked if they try and leave with an army at their gates.
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>>71112925
Whats so important about Hoare blood. Also why must Arya kill Bran?
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>>71114901
Good archer is an understatement.

Hitting a pretty small moving target 100-200m away in the heart is pretty fucking godlike.
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>>71112739
>WHY DON'T YOU EVER ASK ME ANYTHING ABOUT OUR SITUATION?
>ok, what do you think about our situation?
>DUNNO LEL

How can anyone still like her?
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>>71114897
Where? To be ridden down by the Vale knights? They're footmen, they would've been killed mercilessly.
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>>71114929
according to the thread you just run around them
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>>71114985
because women. They all do this shit and when they see it on screen they go "yes why the fuck won't he listen to her?"
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>>71114962

right when he was about to reach Jon, too!

You might even say it was some shitty b-tier show drama trope.

>just turn your brain off, bro
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>>71115009
they weren't fighting in formation in the show, it was just chaos running around slashing and stabbing. i'm asking about formations, not that hollywood shit
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So why shouldn't Sana get beheaded for her treachery? Not telling Jon about the Vale army cost them what looked like 1000+ men.
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>>71114942
>>71114988
To anywhere.
Jon and the Vale were there to take Winterfell, not to murder every single Bolton soldier.
If they fled from the battlefield while Jon took Winterfell no one would bother to chase them and no one would punish them for it.
Instead they choose to make a last stand inside of Witnerfell, even when the best they could hope for in such a situation was a drawn-out siege that would end with their deaths anyway.
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please stop fighting
please no bullying
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>>71114784
lmfao
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>>71115040
well then, nobody in this thread actually knows.
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>>71114962
The problem is Rickon ran in a straight line and Ramsay had had two arrows to correct his aim with. He routinely hunts in the woods, he uses a bow in combat and probably trains the Bolton archers too.
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>>71114929
>body pile 15 feet high
>this mean at some point people climbed on a 10 feet body pile to fight for some reason
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>>71115046
>Jon and the Vale were there to take Winterfell, not to murder every single Bolton soldier.

Yes they fucking would.

They're enemy combatants of the family who killed Robb, took Winterfell and killed Rickon.

And the Vale is right fucking there with Jon's dudes even right behind Ramsay. Leave the door open to run out to get slaughtered by Jon's men or the Vale troops when they see the gate's open?
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>>71114929
Purely my opinion anon, no historical basis, but if you have multiple lines one of your buddies sidesteps in front of the body and you sidestep into his position otherwise if for some reason the wall is completely stationary, you are forced to watch your footing and do your job.
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to all the "autists" in this thread who still care about good writing, i love you all.

You are a glimmer of hope. Thanks for being (you)
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>>71115044
Because she's his family you autistic dingus.
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>>71114929
>do i just...walk over his body?
Yes, you do.
If you are in such a formation and a hole opens up, you have to walk over the dude and close it or otherwise risk fucking up the formation and getting everyone killed.
And even in such a situation your army's shield should be made of paper for people to die in the same fucking place so much that they build a huge corpse wall.
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>>71115114
i was thinking something like that, like some guy from a different rank who realized what was happening would step in front of me and close the gap, and we'd have time to get his body out of the way
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If the Lord of Light had a reason to bring Jon back from the dead then I assume he could turn away several volleys of arrows to preserve his life as well
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>jonsa
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>>71115161
that should be obvious, it's fucking retarded that people don't realize this
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>>71115086
Yeah you actually have a point there.
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>>71114921
>it's not stretched out
>yes it is you idiot
>how ironic

This is the level of discourse in /got/ during the season.

Wow.
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>>71113791
I hope he is just fucking around with his whole "muh soggy knee" "muh deeck" and actually has Dragonbinders and just fucks Dany, Yara and Theon.
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>>71115044
So you want him to be act like a Sand Snek?

family member you love gets killed while your other family did nothing about it and doesn't even seem like they care so you kill your family to avenge your family?
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>>71115180
>>71115180
>>71115180
new
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>>71115127
She literally isn't. His last name is Snow. Hers is either Bolton or Lannister. The fact that the show just forgot about that is retarded. The only reason Stark loyalists would have rallied behind them is Rickon.
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>>71115169
>does anyone get the impression the show is going for sansa and jon romance?

no.
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>>71115124
>Thanks for being (you)
You're doing it wrong
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>>71115046
The Bolton foot soldiers can't read minds and Jon has Wildlings in their army. They would be slaughtered.

In Season 2 the Lannister noblewomen know they'd be raped if Stannis took the city even if Stannis himself was against rape.
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>>71114784
holy fuck
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>>71115185
you're dumb as bricks.
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>>71115106
Except Jon himself mentioned how the knows the soldiers are just fighting because Ramsay forces them to and was hoping they would flee.
Any commander who isn't a sadistic retard would focus on taking the fortress he came to capture instead of wasting time fighting the fuckers who don't want to fight anymore.
The only time when people would chase deserters was when their objective wasn't to capture shit but to annihilate the enemy's troops, and even then most soldiers would try their luck and run instead of facing death with a sword in their hands.
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>>71115161
Except that's not how the Lord of Light's magic has been shown to work and if it did then Jon has such a fuking huge plot armor that trying to make it seem like he might die is stupid.
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>>71114985
>>WHY DON'T YOU EVER ASK ME ANYTHING ABOUT OUR SITUATION?
>Eh because you were in the council to counsel me? I didn't ask Davos anything either.
Fuck this retarded shitass writing
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>>71115169
She thinks the show is pushing JonXSansa because.... Sansa acts like a fucking cunt, hide informations and put his life at risk, wants to be consulted even tho she doesn't have any useful information to offer (well 1, but she keep it to herself).

That's what a couple should look like to her. That's what the girl in the relationship should do.
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>>71114539
>show finale airs next week
no.
this show will live on like the simpsons or cops.
Next on Cops: Season 9001: another negro gets taken to the ground after foot pursuit.
Next on Simpsons: Season 42: Bart and Lisa and Maggie have not aged at all. Still. The doge hasn't expired either.
Next on GoT: Spooky ghost Stannis burns others' children as a prank, he doesn't really believe in any gods.
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>>71115230
That's because they would be trapped inside a city while the enemy was taking it, just like the Bolton's soldiers inside Winterfell.
If people choose to flee from KL after Stannis took then he wouldn't have any reason to chase them unless they were some super important political figure.
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>>71115246
>Except Jon himself mentioned how the knows the soldiers are just fighting because Ramsay forces them to and was hoping they would flee.
Yeah and how accurate was that assumption? What indication have we seen on screen that Jon was right about this?
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>>71115180
new
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>>71115246
That was before they all became party to Rickon's death and followed him all the way to the end before the Vale got there to fuck their shit up.

No point anymore when they've already killed most of your troops and are only fleeing cause they see a larger force.

Fuckers would then just prove useless against the Walkers as soon as they saw the size of the army or started suffering losses
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>>71114781
This was easily the best moment from the last 2 series. It was the only memorable moment from season 5 and it is better than any bullshit moment like Jon reviving or Ramsey's death.

And I bet they still find some bullshit way to defeat this guy.
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>>71115326
They have been killing of characters to end their arcs since episode one of this season. Don't be retarded. It's over soon simply because there is no one left to fight.
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>>71115363
>>Except Jon himself mentioned how the knows the soldiers are just fighting because Ramsay forces them to and was hoping they would flee.
>Yeah and how accurate was that assumption? What indication have we seen on screen that Jon was right about this?

that pile of carpses would have convinced me (after the fact)
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>>71115363
The fact that the Bolton's whole deal is about ruling through fear. You know, with the whole thing about flaying people.
We have no indications of this on screen because the writers are hacks and made this same soldiers choose to fight till the end for a lord they don't feel any love for.
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>>71115399
>no one left to fight.

There's the Caucasian Pedestrians, what aboot 'em???
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>>71115420
The fuck are you even talking about?
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>>71113971
Bullets are the same as arrows.
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>>71114595
I understand it. I just don't think that was right for his character. Just made him Joffrey 2.0
>>71114901
He is probably good in melee combat also
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>>71115438
>The fact that the Bolton's whole deal is about ruling through fear. You know, with the whole thing about flaying people.
Incorrect for the books. Feudalism doesn't work that way. People keep confusing modern societies with medieval times I reckon. TWOW chapter pretty much reveal that you can't rules based on fear (for a long time).
>We have no indications of this on screen because the writers are hacks
Yes, this is in fact 100% accurate.
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>>71115484
>The fuck are you even talking about?
Hank Hill.
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>>71115516
>He is probably good in melee combat also
He's certainly good at playing Alpo
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>>71115538
I mean, they tried to rule through fear and situations like this should prove it doesn't work, but in the show apparently it did and this men choose to fight for Ramsay till their last breath.
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>>71114390
>The absolute autism in this thread is making me feel a little ill. It's like I'm talking to a bunch of borderline suicidal virgins or something.
>The absolute autism in this thread is making me feel a little ill.
>in this thread

how about the entire site man
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>>71114614
This is actually OK
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>>71115651
>men choose to fight for Ramsay till their last breath.
This is retarded though. From their position they have to decide between a certain death by the hands of the "Stark loylists" or the probably death by the hands of Ramsay. It simply doesn't make sense. (And neither does surrounding the troops in medieval battle completely since it causes them to fight until their last breath i.e. increasing your losses). Ceasar knew this.
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>>71115811
That's my point. The moment the Vale showed up they should have run for their lives
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Well that was full idea crayons
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>>71114784
Someone make a 9/11 version ot of this
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>>71112360
Lets do it kids:

>Jonsa
Retarded, no basis in the show, never going to happen

>CIAnsa
Plausible, basis in the show, but probably even if only briefly

>SweetRobinxSalsa
Plausible, basis in the show

>JaimexBrienne
Most probably, basis in the show

>tormundxbrienne
unlikely but some show gimmick

>JonxDany
Completely implausible ... yet pretty likely cause it would markout the normies and the fangirls

>Lyannaxanyone
Probably not

>CerseixJaime
I know its already a thing, but probably won't last
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>>71115971
>Someone make a 9/11 version ot of this

Jew much?
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>>71116265
9/11 will never not be hilarious
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>>71116011
>JaimexBrienne
They will never meet again
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>>71113352
Please don't say you actually believe this
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>>71116011
>not shipping LyannaxJon
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>>71116641
kys
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What the fuck was his problem exactly? I get wanting to get rid of wildlings from his lands but he lost family and men at the red wedding too, why side with someone who's killed your kin?
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>>71116917
Because his family has been fighting wildlings since there were umbers or wildlings. The umbers own everything touching the gift. They are the first people to get raided. You can see the animosity.
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