When will a ww2 movie actively reflect this
Never
idk man. probably cry baby jews shilling holocaust.
>>71077761
if the subject of movies was based on body count they would mostly take place in china and feature a lot of famines
>All those millions of Russian peasants dead
Oh well. Should have embraced capitalism, eh commies?
>>71077761
Just because they literally forced men to march to their deaths doesn't mean they "contributed more" to WW2 like people always shitpost.
When will the scoundrel mods not delete this post?
https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=Vnu5uW9No8g
>>71077910
Finally someone agrees with what I have been saying forever. The Soviets suffocated the Eastern Front with disposable serfs... nothing more. The statistics don't lie.
>>71077910
>>71077991
Look at the German body count you dinguses.
Hollywood will never sympathise with communists, they'd sooner make films bullshitting about the evils of USSR than make one about their heroism against fascism.
>>71077991
The soviets were better equipped than the Germans you dummy.
Contrary to your 'conventional wisdom' you got from playing Call of Duty 2 back in 2006, the Soviets were more mechanized than their German counterparts who relied much more on horses for transportation.
>>71078025
>USSR
>their heroism against fascism.
kys my man
>>71078109
>muh jew spook
bump
>>71078173
>muh gitler spook
Are there any films that focus on the Battle of Stalingrad?
When will a movie be made about the good guys?
>>71078222
Stalingrad
Enemy at the Gates
some shitty soviet movies
>>71078222
there's several, use google you dumb nigger
>America won the war for everyone
>America has the best and largest film industry
>The entire world watches our movies
To the victor goes the spoils. We can say it however we like. Go back to your shanty village vlad
>>71078025
Why should America cater to euros? Why don't they just make their own movies about it instead of acting like whiney little bitches?
>>71077761
>Soviet Union
>Allies
pick one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HON-9Z1Greo
Thread theme
>>71078337
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Lend_Lease
It was the fault of the Soviets that the Germans got all uppity in the first place. They don't deserve our praise. Individual soldiers on the ground might, but that goes for every soldier in every conflict.
>you now realize that D-day only happened because the allies realized that the Soviets were about to roll over Germany
we were pretty happy to chill and not fight, until high command realized that the soviets would take everything east of england within a year
>>71078314
This. Who gives a shit about the truth, our media movie propaganda literally can rewrite history for 70 years and we can be the only victor of WW2.
>>71078437
Is that why the US heavily supplied the USSR previously? Germany came to said conclusion much earlier desu.
>>71077761
>countries make movies from their own perspectives
Who knew?
>>71078499
Britbongs are so fucking delusional, and I say that as an anglo who shares a queen with them
>what is the Pacific Theatre
Funny how yuros always forget about this.
>>71078541
US and british policy was to let the soviets and germany exhaust one another; they only intervened when it looked at though one side would break-through; lend lease began when germany looked like it was going to win, D-day happened when the Soviets were about to win
the rest of the time was bullshitting stalin about a western front that was apparently about to open for about 4 years (lel)
>>71078606
The opening pic is specifically about Europe.
And while we appreciate the help, how about you stop stealing credit for Australian battles? You guys did win the majority of battles in the pacific yourself, why do you need to take credit for the few we did ourselves?
>>71078499
>UK that large
Yup, sounds about rightGOD SAVE THE QUEEN
>>71078606
most of the world considers WWII over with the fall of Berlin, and the whole war against Japan as a separate conflict.
But I guess America was mostly responsible for defeating some starving 4'6" gooks with no industry so they make some movies to congratulate themselves
>>71078598
Nowhere as bad as USA's opinion of itself on that chart.
>>71078658
OP's post said "a ww2 movie," retard. World War 2 was called a world war because it took place outside of Europe as well.
>>71078598
britain should have accepted peace with hitler after france fell
but idiot churchill kept fighting for >muh honour and decimated the glorious empire as a result
>bolsheviks were the good guys
when will this meme end
>UKucks blown the fuck out as usual
No wonder they're currently getting beat up by and running away from Russian children in Marseille.
>>71078658
>Emus
What the hell man?
>>71078626
right, except the Allies fought in North Africa and Italy for years before D-Day. The Soviets hadn't even reclaimed all of their own country before the US and UK forced Italy to surrender
>>71078755
Dubs confirm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfEBupAeo4
>>71078733
If the US hadn't gotten involved Then the Axis powers would not have been defeated. That's why the US is considered to have been a major reason for victory.
>>71078804
>there were good guys
the whites were slave-masters and reds were bloodthirsty savages
my opinion is everyone contributed significantly (except france)
>>71078745
>When will a ww2 movie actively reflect this
>this
In the context for image boards, it is heavily implied that the OP is referring to the picture that was posted alongside the original post when stating "this" within this context.
>World War II military deaths in Europe by front/year (millions)
Therefore we can assume that OP wants a movie that reflects the level of causalities in Europe during WW2.
American education surely teaches you fucking reading comprehension.
>>71078712
You're ignorant. Japan was industrialized at that point in time.
>>71078845
EMU WAR WAS OUR 9/11 YOU SHIT CUNT STOP JOKING ABOUT IT IT'S NOT FUNNY
>>71078755
It didn't even have to come to this.
>>71078851
The chart's about contribution to victory. Russia is clearly the only logical choice, without them fighting the Axis would've won easily.
>>71078925
>>71078712
Hitler was a weeb who ensured that the Japs had the necessary equipment and funding.
>>71077761
what memes were available in this time?
>>71078982
Americans
>>71078972
you think he would have liked DBZ or that other anime show if he were alive today?
>>71078876
>except france
They had some motherfucking badasses fighting for them, though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVmYFJGoZ-0
>Reduced to approximately thirty able men, most members of the Sturmbataillon had been captured or escaped Berlin on their own, or in small groups. Most of those who made it to France were apprehended and sent to Allied prisons and camps. Fenet was sentenced to 20 years of forced labour, but was released from prison in 1959. Others were shot upon capture by the French authorities. General Philip Leclerc, the French divisional commander who had served under the Americans, was presented with a group of 11-12 captured Charlemagne Division men. The Free French General immediately asked them why they wore a German uniform, to which one of them replied by asking the General why he wore an American one (French Army uniform stocks had been plundered en masse by the Germans during the occupation). The group of French Waffen-SS men were later shot.
>>71078885
barely. The US was able to put together a bigger Pacific fleet in 3 years than the japs in 15 years of preparation. They had nearly no metal, oil, and rubber to fuel their industry because all of it came from recently conquered Dutch colonies. Fuck, incendiary bombs killed more Japanese civilians that the nukes because most of Tokyo was still wood and paper houses in 1945
Japan was industrialised in WWII the same way that India is today.
>>71078745
>World War 2 was called a world war because it took place outside of Europe as well.
with that logic WW1 isn't a World War
>>71078952
Not necessarily. The US could have deployed nukes if it came to that.
It's impossible to give "what ifs" though
>>71078109
The Russian Empire had been such utter shit for a century before the Revolution that the Bolsheviks ended up being an improvement
>>71079054
In all fairness WW1 took place in the Middle East as well, not to mention British colonies that assisted plus the U.S.
>>71079067
>USA causing more crimes against humanity during WW2
>>71078437
>we were pretty happy to chill and not fight
There was always an expectation for a front to be opened in France, it was just a matter of where and when. The Soviets wanted that front most of all, since t would force the Germans to divert forces off the Eastern Front. The Free French, of course, wanted to see France liberated, and would also stand to benefit the American & British forces working their way up Italy and having a tougher go of it than expected.
>>71079054
>ottoman empire
>middle east
>America
Those aren't in europe last time I checked. Europe might count as part of the middle east now though; I'm not sure
![Major_General_Dwight_Eisenhower,_1942_TR207[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QTrDy9A.jpg "Major_General_Dwight_Eisenhower,_1942_TR207[1].jpg")
Yes, yes well done Germany
>HOWEVER
>>71078850
>hitler wuz a good boy, he dindu nuttin
>he didnt want war, dem allies FORCED it on him
>>71078712
its basically a completely separate war that occurred for completely unrelated reasons (US instituting an oil embargo on japan due to concerns over the expanding japanese empire)
japan and germany had zero interaction, they were just 'allies' for the sake of it
>>71078109
do you actually think that anyone will ever read that?
>>71078222
Literally two films called Stalingrad
>>71079142
>Turkey
>not Europe
>America
>implying there was an american front
>>71079094
If you call industrialization with bruteforce, while killing of any alleged dissenters by the millions, then sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8raDPASvq0
>>71079049
Japan was much closer to the West at the time than India is today. The GDP/capita was certainly lower than the US and UK, but not less than half, and was comparable to France and Germany.
>>71079209
>Turkey
>Europe
Spotted the german
>>71077761
shit, did an average german on the eastern front have a 2/1 kd?
and they even had better k/d on the western front too
damn, germans stronk
>>71079289
more like Russians expendable
>>71079138
it was all a lie to keep stalin fighting, churchill promised stalin new fronts for years, that never seemed to materialise
britain could have opened up a western front on its own had it wanted it had the numbers and navy, but ultimately nobody cared enough to take the risk for the russians and were pretty happy to let russians and germans kill one another
until it was obvious that russia was about to win, then we made a token effort to get on the victorious side
>>71079289
it's amazing what people can achieve without jewish influence
>>71079289
no
they encircled whole armies and then starved them to death in POW camps
>>71078096
And the Soviets still lost over 2x as many men as the Germans.
>>71079317
Heres one:
"One foreigner who did obtain a private audience with Mannerheim during the January lull was the well-connected Sir Walter Citrine...With unusual candow, at one point in their conversation, Mannerheim told Citrine that he himself had been incredulous about early Russian casualty reports. Battles simply were not that one-sided, in his experience. When one division commander reported that his men had killed 1,000 Russian infantry in a single night, at Taipale, Mannerheim let it be known that he did not believe the figure. Two days later, a terse message came back from the division commander, stating that more than 1,000 Moisin rifles had been collected from the dead and inventoried, if the Marshal would care to come count them for himself. Mannerheim allowed himself a wintry smile as he told the story, adding thathe seldom questioned the casualty reports thereater. "I did not think that my men we so good, or that the Russians could be so bad.""
A Frozen Hell, William Trotter.
>>71079184
even the /pol/tards that believe it don't read it
it's laughably bad, basically just a brute force search of any jew (or person who married a jew or was related to a jew) to have any part in Russian communist politics in the early 20th century. It includes Mensheviks even though they constantly fought and hated the Bolsheviks, and includes such stunning evidence as Stalin working at a refinery owned by the Roschilds for pennies an hour as proof that the Jews were funding communism
It's your standard "but this random person was a Jew, therefore conspiracy!" level of /pol/ scholarship
>>71077761
>finland
>red
>>71079289
Legacy of Prussia
>>71079411
?? they still win then ya dingus
>>71079370
amen
>>71077991
Hmm 90% of all German divisions were in the Eastern Front
I wonder how well D day would have gone if they weren't facing young boys and other bottom of barrel conscripts?
>>71079289
Many of the Soviet military deaths were starved POWs.
The Nazis considered them subhuman and made a policy out of mass starvation.
>>71079462
hello JIDF! trying to cover up the links between judaism and communism again?
>>71079515
>paying your maid in silver
>>71079289
>You shall not only reproduce yourself, but produce something higher.
>>71078499
>cucked Yorop boys really believe that we single handedly defeated the nazis
Feel good to be american and worshiped. And lol at France 1945 and 1994.
>>71079674
Go back to worshiping your future German Fuhrer
>>71079529
you said 2/1 KD you kiddo
if your gonna think about ww2 like cod at least get your words right
>>71079561
Okay? The Russians had hordes of men that outnumbered Germans easily. Of course they needed the brute of their forces there to stop it. By no means does this mean the Soviets were a good contribution... ten million fucking men died on their side because the higher echelon of Soviet leaders wanted to spread communism. They could have simply kept the border secure and let the West clean up Germany or whatever but instead they sacrificed more lives than any other country for basically nothing. Fuck communists and fuck you for defending them.
>>71079740
>killing someone isnt the same as killing someone
t. you, a retard
>>71079656
will we ever be able to go back?
>>71079566
Nope that happened deliberately in Ike's death camps. Bolshevists practiced scorched earth tactics. Even the Wehrmacht didn't have enough. Stalin considered POW's as traitors anyway and sent them right after liberation to gulag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdDnbXXn20
>>71079758
>i am 16
this is the most retarded shit i've ever read i dont even
the german army isnt going to kill itself
>>71079791
If we do away with pic related then sure.
>>71079902
>>71079791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBXoXB3QvyI
>>71079758
>ten million fucking men died on their side because the higher echelon of Soviet leaders wanted to spread communism
you're a retard who doesn't know anything. Stalin was opposed to internationalism in 1939, that was a Trotskyite view and you'd be shot for it. Soviet policy was pretty inward-looking rather than the permanent worldwide revolution shit of the 1920's.
The reason the Soviets didn't "keep the border secure" was because Stalin was busy purging the army leadership and they were woefully unprepared for Barbarossa. By the end of 1941 an offensive war was necessary just to get back to their 1939 borders and at that Stalin wanted a buffer of Soviet-friendly states in eastern Europe so the same thing didn't happen
and honestly if it weren't for D-Day they probably would have kept going and made all of central and western Europe red as well
>>71079964
>you're a retard who doesn't know anything.
t. every retard ever
>>71079561
>I wonder how well D day would have gone if they weren't facing young boys and other bottom of barrel conscripts?
I guess Americans and Bongs would have had to plan accordingly, they were perfectly happy letting Nazis and Gommies kill each other for as long as possible.
Also, Germany putting more troops in the western front would have meant getting fucked even harder in the eastern.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ_XcnyQFqU
I'd appreciate a good movie about Patton.
>>71079561
and the US army was made up of what? hardened veterans with years of military experience? this delusion.
>>71080189
maybe check out Patton
>>71078025
>Hollywood will never sympathise with communists
You don't seem to understand hollywood very well. They're far left.
>>71077761
>Russians caught the bullets while Americans won the War
kek
>>71079964
This is correct. Wehrboos don't want to admit it but the Soviet Union could have won the war alone, without any allies. Their industrial capacity and manpower were so much greater than Germany's, their terrain and weather conditions made them unconquerable, and the war was incredibly popular with the population. So when you combine the ability of the Soviet economy to completely blow Germany out with their inexhaustible manpower, inherently high morale (fighting for national survival, not ideological conquest) and the winter, Soviet victory was actually inevitable. Even without the allies.
>>71080199
Yes it was. Africa and Italy campaigns. A lot of combat veterans. Also better equipped: tanks that didn't break down, an Air Force that could actually fly, armaments that weren't garbage built by forced labor and often rigged not to work...
>>71080308
>what if the war happened some completely different way?
The West and Germany were at war before Germany and the USSR was at war. If the west didn't start a fight with Germany over Poland, Hitler would've never attempted a preemptive strike on the USSR. Or such a preemptive strike would've been incredibly stronger.
>>71080308
>Wehrboos don't want to admit it but the Soviet Union could have won the war alone, without any allies.
Possible, but rather not.
>Their industrial capacity and manpower were so much greater than Germany's
True
>their terrain and weather conditions made them unconquerable
Bad conditions, yes. Broader chains for german tanks and russia would have been defeated with ease.
>and the war was incredibly popular with the population.
No comment.
>inherently high morale
They were treated worse than animals by the bolshevists and often thus behaved like it.
>fighting for national survival, not ideological conquest
Germany did, not the USSR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vekf_2952U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPjLGmOiorw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAkKmcFAOjk
>>71080448
This is incorrect. War between the Reich and the USSR was inevitable. Germany invaded because their only chance was to take out the communists before they reached a higher level of military preparedness and fully recovered from the purges, and before they fully tapped into their industrial capacity.
Haven't you ever heard of lebensraum? War was absolutely inevitable. And no, it wouldn't have been stronger because blitzkreig doesn't work across areas the size of Russia.
>>71080365
Oh fuck off. Normandy invasion was a fucking massacre. If it wasn't for the air division running amok behind enemy lines those 'hardened veterans' would have died all the same.
Germany had expanded far too much to be able to control it against so many allies coming in from so many different angles. If it wasn't for Hitler's cockiness, the Eastern campaign wouldn't have started until the West was well and truly secured.
>>71080601
>Haven't you ever heard of lebensraum?
Have you ever heard of living space or habitat?
They denied germans their ancestral lands or 'living space' after WW1. Even going so far to expell over a million and kill thousands before war had started.
>>71080308
Didn't the US send Russia a lot of steel and lend-lease supplies?
>>71080752
>>71080535
Both sides behaved like animals by today's standards. Raping and murdering innocent people has been part of military conquest for thosisnds of years.
Broader chains for German tanks? Do you mean... Supply chains? Changing the treads? That's ridiculous. As fighting vehicles German tanks were very good. The problem wasn't their combat effectiveness, but limited range and propensity to break down, where they'd sit forever because they couldn't be prepared.
The other problem was they actually had very few tanks compared to the Soviets.
Conquering your neighbors isn't national survival, it's ideological conquest, in this case for lebensraum. Defending against such a conquest is national survival. The propagandists in Moscow realized that people were much more motivated by the idea of defending Mother Russia and didn't give two shits about communism; most propaganda centered around that and it was very effective, which kept morale high. The absolute depravity of the Germans toward conquered peoples also made surrender a non-option.
>>71080752
Russia didn't have any of the territory taken from Germany after their defeat in World War One. Lebensraum was part of Nazi ideology, laid out in Mein Kampf: purge Slavic lands and resettle them with Germans. This is not up for debate. Invade Poland, invade France, get back what you lost. I get that.
Invade Russia? Unrelated.
>>71080758
Yes, but it isn't as though without lend-lease they would have lost. They would have won anyway.
>>71080777
>As fighting vehicles German tanks were very good.
Yes, but they weren't built for conquest in russia. Wehrmacht didn't even have proper winter clothing.
Broader tank chains, more weather hardened vehicles and the muddy conditions wouldn't have been as much a problem as they has been.
As for the rest just read the thread.
As fighting vehicles German tanks were very good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdDnbXXn20
Watch this documentary. It's top notch and is easily watchable due to 15min parts.
https://www.youtube.com /watch?v=Vnu5uW9No8g
>>71078755
Nah, Britain and the States fucked up earlier, they should have partitioned Germany as the French desired, but there couldn't be French hegemony in Europe, which led to the Treaty of Versailles being way too lax.
>>71077910
>>71077991
The Eastern Front decided the war you dipshits. German power was broken by the Soviet counter-attack outside Moscow, and the nail in the coffin was Stalingrad the following year. The Soviets quite literally won WWII, and if they had collapsed Europe would've come under complete control of the Axis
>>71081005
This does not solve the issue of German over-engineering. These tanks broke down all the time, and they couldn't be repaired by the crews. What might be minor repairable damage (up and running in a day) for a Sherman or T34 was a total loss for the Germans.
You see examples of German over-engineering hampering the war effort everywhere. The V1 and V2 rockets were expensive and didn't do any significant damage due to their small payloads and shitty targeting system. The ME262 was fast but constantly broke down and was too expensive and complicated to build in significant numbers.
How many variants of complicated tanks did Germany field? It's impossible to mass-produce under those conditions. Also slave labor meant their munitions were mostly garbage and rigged to blow up in Franz's hands.
>>71080872
Sure russia wasn't meant.
>Lebensraum was part of Nazi ideology
Blood and soil. Nothing wrong with it.
>laid out in Mein Kampf: purge Slavic lands and resettle them with Germans.
Hitler was a moron to write it so that it could be understood that way, as he clearly didn't have that ambition. He even admitted later that he wrote it badly in that regard, if I'm not mistaken.
>Invade Russia? Unrelated.
Indeed. USSR was about to steamroll europe and painting it red, though.
>>71078109
>Russian Empire brutally represses and murders jews
>many jews are actively involved in a revolution that has a goal of removing religion ethnicity and class
whoda thunk it
>>71078283
Absolutely terrible film. Worst part is that damn score, there's one bit that goes
DOODALOODADOO
And it plays like 70 times
>>71081300
No kidding, what a letdown when I finally saw it after expecting something actually good. An even bigger letdown actually, because I realized CoD1 copied the river crossing scene and did a better job than the movie.
>>71081255
Having alien people(4%) run your nation isn't exactly better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bSAB5OPkwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP18DvPFn9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLDFhAxim4w
>>71081406
>its an 'armchair historian jerks off over wikipedia kill counts' thread
oh boy its like im on /int/
>>71081482
The thread does actually contain valuable information. You should read it.
>>71081202
Hitler and Stalin felt incredibly threatened by one another. Stalin felt invasion was inevitable and was preparing to attack first. Hitler felt Stalin would inevitably attack, and attacked first. Both were paranoid, murderous megalomaniacs. I've read biographies of both and I cannot imagine a scenario where these two men could have avoided war.
Both were veterans of serious military conflicts who rose to the top of their respective organizations based on maneuver, inspiring loyalty/fealty, fear, and paranoia. Both grew up in abusive environments and abandoned their initial career trajectories. (Hitler was going to be an artist, Stalin was going to join the clergy.)
Both killed millions of innocents, including their own family members, and conducted brutal purges of perceived threats within their parties.
War was inevitable, and therefore Soviet victory was inevitable.
>>71078847
Italians were war-weary and didn't want to fight any longer, after suffering massive reverses in N. Africa like El Alamein. News pouring in from the East of the massive German retreat outside Moscow did nothing to lift their spirits, so when the Allies landed in Sicily, the Italians mostly gave up without a fight and Mussolini was imprisoned in a bloodless coup. Only reason the Germans were able to hold on to Nortern Italy was because of a monumental fuck-up by the Allies in not driving North. They had the troops and the advantage of initiative, as well as both air and sea superiority, but they sat on their hands for like 6 weeks before making any kind of advance, allowing the Germans to entrench themselves and even seize Rome without a fight. Diaries of the top German generals confirm that they thought the war was over as soon as the Allies landed in Italy, because the generals believed the Allies would push north and strike the undefended German underside. Allies didn't do this because they wanted the Soviets to continuw bleeding.
>>71081561
Who did Hitler kill in his own family?
>>71081561
A couple of years ago I did hold the same views like you.
Then I researched much deeper.
This documentary is good for a start.
https://www.youtube.com /watch?v=Vnu5uW9No8g
>>71078969
>We just want Danzig, then there will be peace
Right, just like
>we just want to remilitarize the Rhineland, it's our own backyard
>we just want to annex Austria, then there will be peace
>we just want to annex the Sudetenland, then there will be peace
>we just want to annex the rest of Czechoslovakia, then there will be peace
If they had given him Danzig, he next would have demanded Silesia, Posen, and more Polish territory.
Face it, Hitler was made of the same stuff as Alexander, Caesar and Napoleon. He was a great leader, but there was no way he would have been content with normalcy. He needed action, conflict, and turmoil like the great conquerors who preceded him.
>>71081561
>War was inevitable, and therefore Soviet victory was inevitable.
Soviets should have lost and would have if the rest of the world used their heads
>>71081755
Without clicking I'm going to guess Greatest Story Never Told?
The reason that story is never told is because it is a ridiculous lie. Try again.
>America has been holding the liberal world order on its shoulders like Atlas since WW2
>Donald Trump thinks US foreign policy can go back to how it was in the 1920s
He would have Atlas drop the world for a momentary reprieve.
>>71081806
Why should the Soviets have lost? The Soviets wouldn't have wanted to conquer Germany unless it was to prevent their own destruction.
>>71081757
Alexander, Caesar, and Napoleon were noblemen/royalty. Hitler was the son of a bureaucrat. For a good portion of his life he was homeless. He was a brave soldier but you cannot compare him to the greatest generals and rulers of all time. These types of 20th century revolutionary ideologues are not comparable to men like Napoleon and Alexander.
Hitler was not a brilliant general or strategist. He was a charismatic political leader who had been a brave soldier. But not an officer, commander, or prince. You are high as fuck.
>>71081972
Europe, Japan, and Korea didn't pay for their own self defense starting in 1920?
>>71081972
He just wants to get more out of the bargain. He's still going to bomb ISIS anon. But he's going to make Europe pay for it.
>>71081991
Napoleon came from nothing, and while Caesar had a good family name, he was dirt poor when he began his rise. Hitler was absolutely a good strategist, as strategy extends to the economic, political and social theatres as well, which Hitler rejuvinated and dominated. If you want to say he's a bad tactician, well I would partially agree with you; although the invasion of the Scandinavian countries, of Poland and of France were tactical masterpieces, and were almost completely planned by Hitler. He's also credited with saving the German army from complete disintegration after the battle of Moscow.
>>71081757
>>we just want to remilitarize the Rhineland, it's our own backyard
It's german.
>>we just want to annex Austria, then there will be peace
It's also called as war of roses, because austrians are germans and held a referendum to become part of Germany. There were soldiers of Germany in Austria met with flowers and likewise austrian soldiers in Germany as a sign of brotherhood and peacefulness.
>we just want to annex the Sudetenland, then there will be peace
>we just want to annex the rest of Czechoslovakia, then there will be peace
Same thing. Czechoslovakia was a construct formed after WW1. Before that it belonged to the hungary-german realm of Austria-Hungary. It didn't make sense at all, as czechs oppressed germans and slovaks. Both groups wanted to become free. Integrating 6 million czechs as a minority into the german nation of ~70 million people makes much more sense than 3 million germans and well over 2million slovaks as a oppressed minority of a czech country. Slovakia became independent and czechs lived in a german protectorate and thus in a german realm again as they did for hundreds of years and were basically culturally fully assimilated.
See
>>71080752
>>71080770
A bit more explained here
https://www.youtube.com /watch?v=Vnu5uW9No8g
>>71081757
>>we just want to remilitarize the Rhineland, it's our own backyard
France behaved way more aggressive towards Germany in history than the other way around.
They lost a piece of german! populated clay when they provoked the franco-prussian war from 1870-1871, which they lost.
Pic related
>>71082146
Napoleon did not come from nothing. Napoleon was born a nobleman. Not rich, but from a noble family.
Hitler wasn't a good strategist; some of his policies were successful, but he ultimately led Germany into barbarism, ruin, and partition.
>>71082019
In the 1920s American's believed it was Britain's responsibility to maintain the precarious stability of the reigning world order.
It turned out, without America's willingness to involve itself in maintaining that order and cooperating with the other liberal democracies, they were unable to keep the balance and the worst conflict in all of human history broke out. It is beholden on America to uphold the current world order. America is the one who created it. This isn't a partisan issue, republicans & democrats since FDR have realized the importance of a willingness to intervene globally to deter aggression in the quest of maintaining security & stability for the west.
It is a responsibility that cannot be outsourced.
>>71079962
Interesting choice of song considering that Sacco and Vanzetti were communists.
>>71082296
Not true. Read the thread and watch vid related.
https://www.youtube.com /watch?v=Vnu5uW9No8g
>>71082450
Indeed. It adds to the sad irony I think.
The song is beautiful, although I obviously don't agree with it.
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>>71082943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dbfXp8_qjo
I recommend 8 channel /pol/ /polarchive/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wcwXWflUTk
>>71081757
>>71082288
France was an imperialistic state far back into history. How do you think their language and country name came about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKZlH9EpJe8
>>71083377
France saved Europe from barbarism 2bh
>>71077761
What are you talking about, there are tons of movies where Russians die like animals. In a whole bunch of different time periods, too.
>>71077761
oh wow russia got fucking rekt lmao
>>71083459
I think it's ambivalent over all. No such thing as good or bad in absolute terms. History is hard to read from today's perspective anyways. No way to tell how things have gone exactly or would have turned out otherwise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOW4QiOD-oc
>>71082288
True.
>>71084099
I keep forgetting that, after France fell, there was hardly any fighting on the Western front until the tail end of the war.
The first man will take the rifle.
The second man will take ammunition.
When the first man falls the second will take the rifle.
>>71077761
lol why do russian leaders hate their people so much?
>>71084868
Stalin wasn't Russian
>>71084840
man the first call of duty kicked ass.
>>71082159
Jesus, this is just pathetic. You even justify the destruction of Czech culture and people.
>czechs oppressed germans and slovaks
Yup, because the Germans didn't oppress any minorities.
Just say you agree with the Nazi policies because you are a genocidal psychopath yourself.
