Whats the dornish masterplan?
>>70893606
crashing this country with no survivors
>>70893606
>those fanfic tier place names
>>70893672
Wot?
>>70893606
Tfw you plodded through those awful arianne chapters and the mildy interesting hotah ones for absolutely nothing
>>70893724
>>70893606
Marry someone to someone else in the hopes they can get an alliance where someone else can do all the work for them.
Marrying Arianne to Griff seems like a good move for now.
>>70893606
>the crag
>riverlands
the westerlings are fucking sworn to the lannisters, who made this garbage
>>70893606
Why is asoiaf's map so shit? It's suposed to be the size of south america but you can clearly see it's not.
>>70893606
Bashir?: He wanted to ally with the Targs and crash the Lannister Dynasty.
Sneks?: Teleport to King's Landing and kill Tommen and Cersei.
>>70893606
>Whats the dornish masterplan?
Take over Stormlands
March on King's Landing
>>70893606
It has something to do with the customs of inheritance and succession.
Among the Andals and the First Men,women aren't treated as equals,while among the shitskins,they are and if Arianne Martell becomes queen,she'll be free to change the rules of succession and inheritance and enforce the laws of the Rhoynar on the entire kingdom and thus,solidifying the position of her house in King's Landing and the dominance of her culture on the entire continent.
>>70893672
Pretty sure most places in Medieval Europe were named as such... what do you think Dutchland means in English?
>>70894189
The only reason that map looks unbelievable it's because the show has no idea how to paste movement of characters through it. If there was some kind of forethought put into the passing of the characters and their progression through the storyline and through the map you'd actually get a sense of how just how big this continent is supposed to be
>>70896090
>Pretty sure most places in Medieval Europe were named as such... what do you think Dutchland means in English?
Skyreach? Princes Pass? Starfall? The Twins? Random combination of noun and verb?
>>70893606
In the books- The crowned prince of Dorne is secretly backing Aegon. Dorne backing the new young dragon gives some weight to his invasion of Westeros.
In the show- Feminism xD *farts*
>>70893606
It has been dropped in the show in favor for Margaery's highgarden masterplan instead.
>>70896389
What exactly do you think London was named for by the Romans and what that translates into modern English?
Humans are not that creative with names, I mean the most common English last name is Smith, and it's not because one guy fucked a lot.
>>70896700
yeah I'll bear that in mind the next time I'm in Moonsword.
kill all men
>>70896834
>He said from his home town Little Rock
>>70893606
>the arbor
>dorne
what the fuck is this map
crashing this plane with no survivors
>>70896880
Is that the way to Swampy-Place? Or Heavenfall?
>>70896452
dorne sucks in the books too
>>70893840
>>70896957
i suspect it's a map for Risk
i think the box near the top is your extra armies for holding each colored region
>>70897628
Nah
It's right between river city and and Holly wood.
There is no master plan. Rather, none that will work. The point of A Feast for Crows is to show two major new players, Dorne and the Iron Islands, entering in the power vacuum left after the War of the Five Kings, but their attempt to bring a new paradigm is crippled by the same obsessions that caused the war in the first place: for Dorne, desire for vengeance; for the Iron Islands, desire for power. Both causes are doomed: Doran's plan will fail and, at the very least, cost him a great deal of his army as well as three nieces and possibly his daughter; and Euron's plot will have no end result but to make it easier for the Others to take over.
In short, there is no master plan, and the wish for it is the failure to see the point of the series: playing the game is bullshit, and the truly impressive and necessary cause is the moral one.
>>70899275
ah yes i remember my first time in Skyhalberd, the capitol of Northeastwestersoutheron.
We drank some valycireinsian wine.
You seriously cant tell how gay that shit is, can you?
>>70895868
but will the nobles go along with it
>>70899722
But literally speaking, Doran's plan is this:
1) Collect collateral and trust (eg Myrcella and her marriage pact with Trystane, his second son) while he prepares
2) Send his first son Quentyn to Daenerys and offer the army of Dorne for her hand, help her take the throne with Quentyn as her king
3) Send the Sand Snakes to assassinate Tommen, ingratiate Dorne with the High Septon/Faith Militant, and ready the army for war
[Quentyn doesn't send word back (he's dead) and Aegon Targaryen shows up]
4) Send Arianne to Aegon to confirm his identity and offer marriage and Dorne's army, help him take the throne with Arianne as queen
5) Have the High Septon anoint Aegon, turning the Faith against Tommen's crown
He literally does the same plan three times (originally, he promised Arianne to Viserys, before he died and Aegon reappeared). So no, not a master planner.
But none of them are. Tywin crushes his enemy for a day, but doesn't realize that'll earn him an eternity of righteous rebellion - same thinking that gets him killed by his own son. Varys sows countless seeds and kills hundreds for his ultimate goal of crowning one person, but doesn't get that that person can be wiped out in a second, unlike a solid political and social foundation worked on for decades. Littlefinger moves entire kingdoms around himself and indebts people to him on the scale of a king's vassalry, but he doesn't get that he's destroying those kingdoms in the process to the point that he could literally end up king with no one around to see it. No master plans.
>>70895868
That was the Queenmaker plot. In Dorne, older sisters inherit before younger brothers, but Arianne (older) suspects Quentyn (younger) plans to steal her inheritance by force. So she plans to crown Myrcella, making her queen over her little brother Tommen, according to Dornish law. This to start a war so Arianne can claim her inheritance by leading her people in battle, securing their loyalty to her before her brother.
