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Did Rob Zombie kill the Halloween franchise?
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I originally thought that movie with Busta Rhymes killed the Halloween franchise,but Rob Zombie's remake was even worse.What do you think?
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>>70891635
For a guy who supposedly really appreciates classic horror he seems to have no idea what made the original Halloween successful.

His version was awful.
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>>70891677
>>70891635
You guys need to get some taste
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>>70891635

Its leagues better than shit like babdook, the conjring, paranormal activity.

Sure, it tonally different than the original, but its better horror than most recent attempts.

Zombie's original films are the best in modern horror
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>>70891738
>defend Rob Zombie
>tell others to get taste

TOP KEK
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>>70891635
I thought this was a Zaphod Beeblebrox thread at first
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>>70891635

Aren't they making another one right now?
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>>70891782
yeah, get some taste, they're fine horror movies you mental infant TOP LE KEK XDD
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>>70891738
>Says the guy defending Rob Zombie
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>>70891843
>like horror movies
>call someone else a mental infant

Enjoy your edgy gore Timmy
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The Devils Rejects was literally one of the shittiest movies I've ever had to sit through
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But Zombie's movies are actually decent compared to everything else coming out in the genre. At the very least they're more interesting and better shot.
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>>70891802
Rob was signed a 2 picture deal and John Carpenter is back as Producer
>Carpenter is back as producer
>New Friday The 13th movie will have "Prisoners"screenwriter
They finally gave a shit about these movies?
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>not liking comfy RZ movies
I want Reddit to leave
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Did the Halloween movies have some kind of prestige before Rob Zombie came along?
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>>70891915
Go back to your Linkin Park albums until you're 18 bucko
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>>70891930
Yes, John Carpenter is a great filmmaker and no other horror franchise had someone like that behind it.
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>>70891911
>John Carpenter is back as Producer

That's positive.
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>>70892029
Then again, Halloween went straight into terrible schlock territory at 4.
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>>70891930
bait
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>>70891930
For Mountain Dew swigging fedoras, yes.
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>>70891930
Halloween invented the slasher film genre. It's also a great example of using tension, suspense, atmosphere and music. It's a really well done move. Go back and watch it.
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>>70891854

Zombie is horrorkino

go watch paranormal activity 12, or whatever bland offering hollywood has at the moment if you can't appreciate it
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>>70891635
Well, we're getting a new Halloween movie next year so I guess he didn't kill the franchise. There aren't many details about it yet but John Carpenter will be exec producing and there are rumors that either Adam Wingard or Mike Flanagan will direct.
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>>70891906
>But Zombie's movies are actually decent compared to everything else coming out in the genre
t. pleb who only watches mainstream horror flicks

A bunch of pretty good indie horror films have come out within the last few years.
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>>70892219
Back to r/movies
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>>70892085
This coming from a Rob Zombie fan. You need to get some self-awareness.
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>>70892228
Back to some greasy metalhead forum. I'll admit that Rob is more interesting than most mainstream horror but he can't compete with the indie scene.
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>>70892219
Oh wow I never heard of The Witch, It Follows, Babadook and whatever other meme shit you're about to bring up. They're so obscure man.
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>>70892353
I never said they're obscure, faggot.
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>>70892134
>Zombie is horrorkino


Nope.

>The Thing
>Halloween (78)
>The Exorcist
>The Shining
>Texas Chainsaw (74)
>Bride of Frankenstein
>Dawn of the Dead (78)
>Alien
>Nosferatu
>Rosemary's Baby

That's horrorkino.
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>>70891743
And Halloween 4 and 5 are leagues better than what Zombie shat out.
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>Zombie says people shouldn't remake good Horror movies
>remakes Halloween

Not only that, but
>removes all the mystique of Michael and just making him a troubled kid
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>>70891930
The original Halloween is widely considered a horror masterpiece. The rest of the franchise doesn't have a good reputation though. Halloween: Resurrection is just as awful as the Rob Zombie movies.
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>>70892365
"A bunch of indie movies have come out within the past year blahblahblah". News to absolutely nobody. Those movies aren't a representation of the current state of horror movies. They're a good sign though.
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>>70892413
When you said "But Zombie's movies are actually decent compared to EVERYTHING else coming out in the genre" I assumed you meant his movies are better than all other modern horror. You should've said "But Zombie's movies are actually decent compared to most stuff that is coming out in the genre."
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>>70892397
I love 4&5, but I must say that Zombie's H2 was really good for me. It's not really a Halloween movie, but it's a good psychological horror movie.
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>>70892371
>No Jacobs ladder
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>>70891677
He made a spoof and it was hilarious. What did you want him to make the exact same movie? Did you want him to make a Platinum Dunes style hollywood reboot? He made Rob Zombie's Halloween and it's fucking awesome. OOOOOOOOHHH LOVE HURTS!
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Rob Zombie is fucking awful, nothing he ever does is good

Why does this man keep getting work?
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He improved it
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>>70892548
Yeah, that is a good one but I consider it more of a psychological thriller. pedantic I guess.
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>>70892587
says a filthy meme posting spic on 4chan that has never done anything with his life
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>>70892371

Those are all old. we're discussing current horror

fucking noob
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>>70892619
nice projecting kiddo

making garbage doesn't mean you've done something with your life either
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>>70892625
>Those are all good films. we're discussing current shit flicks
Fixed it for you. No charge pal
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>>70892371
Bride of Frankenstein = Pleb

Son of Frankenstein = Patrician
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>>70891635
Some are good, most are bad
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>>70892587
>Why does this man keep getting work?

because he funds his movies with his rockstar money.

with Zombie studios are only involved for distribution
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>>70891885
But it had Brian Posehn!
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>>70892656

I never said they were bad faggot, but you're discussing the wrong century
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>>70892560
This was embarrassing to read.
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>>70892711
If we dont talk about horror classics, then there is no horror to talk about at all. Because modern horror movies dont even classify as horror. Let alone good movies.

GTFO with your memedook.
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>>70892587
Both his shitty Halloween movies cost $15 million each and brought in around $120 million combined. Pretty decent returns.
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>>70892759
Oh well la di dah mister I take the Halloween series so seriously that I can't laugh at an obvious comedy version even after the original series already wrapped up with Michael Myers losing a kung fu fight to Busta Rhymes.

If you can't laugh at Ken Forre getting killed while taking a shit while Rush's Tom Sawyer plays in the background then you're just a fucking tight ass kill joy and I don't want to know you.
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>>70892882
Oh God, I had to get up half way through reading this to pace around.

Too much cringe.
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>>70892930
>It's so warm.
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>>70892788

okie dokie grandpa
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>>70892930
I bet you think Showgirls is a bad movie too, don't you?
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>>70893024
I used to enjoy fapping to it on network tv when I was like 12, got a tv in my room and the Internet wasn't a thing.

But otherwise it's fucking garbage. Verhoven is such a great director but you can only do so much with a dressed up Skinemax movie.
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>>70893058
Pleb confirmed
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>>70892688
And who actually listens to his trash enough to be able to fund movies?

He stinks at everything he does, trash
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>>70892249
Where did I defend Rob Zombie? Are Carpenter /v/edditors illiterate?
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>>70893079
Guess so.
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>>70892560
I cry at love hurts (and at the Annie death scene).

RZH1&2 might be bad Halloween movies, but he characters are great. Brad Dourif. Danielle Harris. Scout "H2 is the only decent acting I ever did" Taylor-Compton. They made me care about their characters.
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>>70893168
Who are your favorite directors working today?
Let me guess.
Christopher Nolan
JJ Abrams
Zack Snyder
And whoever directed the last captain america movie

Amirite?
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>people defending rob fucking zombie
is the most contrarian board on 4chan?
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>>70893394
you sound like a huge faggot
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>>70893102

keep hating. He's gonna continue being a multi millionaire
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>>70893179
They're great Halloween movies if you compare them to everything that came after 3. 2 kinda sucked because STC was screaming the whole time and being really annoying but I loved what he did with Dr Loomis and putting Weird Al in the movie really put a smile on my face. I don't understand how people don't veiw these films as the obvious comedies they were intended to be. WEIRD AL YANKOVIC IS IN THE FUCKING MOVIE! HOW MUCH MORE DOES HE NEED TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU BRAIN DEAD PLEBS! THEY'RE COMEDIES FFS!
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>>70891635
Rom zombie is the definition of auteur. He's really underrated. Thinking Rob zombie is bad shows how little you know about film.
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>>70891915
Liking rz films is much more reddit you stupid fucking pleb.
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>>70893462
That's what I've been saying. This board sucks for serious kino talk. These faggots think Batman v Superman is kino and call this trash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N9Fzv7bYCM
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>>70891635
i like the remake better

fight me
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>>70893462
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>>70893582
/thread.
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>>70893358

Paul Thomas Anderson
Alejandro González Iñárritu
Coen Bros.
Scorsese
Alexander Payne
Bennett Miller
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>>70893543
That was terrible. Snyder puts this shit to shame.
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>>70893789
Oh meesa Jar Jar Binks

Yousa mooey pretentious wit dat answer

Mooey mooey
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>>70893845
says the 14 year old boy with no taste.
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>>70893879
There was no way you were going to approve of my taste regardless who I said. You were always going to call me pleb or pretentious. My advice to you is to kill your family and then yourself.
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>>70893879
scared much? You need to stop watching capeshit
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>>70892371
>Not including The Exorcist 3
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>>70893928
>There was no way you were going to approve of my taste regardless who I said.

Well duh. What do you think this is? Not the internet?
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>>70893934
Last capeshit I watched was the first avengers movie. I hated it so much I vowed never to watch another Disney Marvel Star Wars movie again until this who stupid fucking trend blows over.
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>>70894025
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>>70893914
14 year olds are Zombies demographic. Seriously that was amateur as fuck. To suggest Zombie is better than Snyder is crazy as fuck talk. And I'm not the biggest fan of Snyder.
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>>70893934
And scared of what? The list of directors. Yeah sure they're all good, coens, pta, and scorsese are greats, but it's a really safe list. It's like saying you're favorite movie is citizen kane. You're just trying to look smart.
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>>70894130
You know Snyder directed a zombie movie, right?
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>>70894130
No. You're wrong.
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>>70894200
Lol. He's talking about Rob Zombie. Not zombies.
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>>70894164
That comment wasn't and I wasn't trying to look smart. That's who I like. As I said, it didn't matter who I said. You were going to shit on them for some reason. Who are your favourites? Let me shit on them.
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>>70894200
And its great?
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>>70892086
Are you fucked? Have you never heard of Black Christmas?
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>>70894239
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>>70894264
Nowhere near the same cultural impact as Halloween.
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>>70894242
Obama
Osama
and Yo mama

No but seriously
I like that Israeli lady who directs all those fake Isis beheading videos.
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>>70894336
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>>70894271
Careful with that jpeg, it's an antique.
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>>70892086
Somebody is forgetting psycho and last house on the left
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>>70891930
Halloween 3 is the greatest sequel to any movie ever made.
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>>70892371
Most of those are films and cinematic experiences.
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>>70893543

>These faggots think Batman v Superman is kino
>he thinks capekino isnt just a meme
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>>70894690
>implying memes are only dreams
>implying meme magic doesn't real
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>>70891635
LOOK AT MUH WIFE GUIZE, SHE PUURRRDY, HYUK HYUK
*sucks Weird Al's cock*
IN THE MOUTH OF MADNESS
DOWN IN THE DARKNESS
NO MORE TOMORROW
DOWN IN THE HOLLOW
I'M SEMEN SLURPING
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>>70894840
This guy gets it.
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His Halloweens are better than any other trash in that franchise.

Zombie is too good for retarded german horrorfags spamming this board
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>>70894905
This guy also gets it.
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>>70892219
While posting a mainstream horror film.. his Halloweens are more obscure than The VVitch which itself was extremely lacking.

And Carpenter's Halloween is like a fucking comedy if you ever seen it, the ending to Halloween 2 by Zombie is far more scarier than Carpenter's Halloween.
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>>70892930
>had to get up halfway through reading this to pace around
i feel like you might be autistic. i half mean that as an insult, half genuinely curious
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>>70892560
>OOOOOOOOHHH LOVE HURTS!
He really took her through the hell. One of the saddest films I've seen.
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>>70895056
I was talking about the first movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7szW_gtiI4g
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>>70894304

I'm getting too old for this website
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>>70895171
31 and been posting here for almost a decade. I've been too old for it for fucking years. Just can't leave. And the community has changed so much. I know it's Summer so there's always going to be more kids but the amount of times I've been accused of being new recently is fucking annoying.
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>>70895314
I've been here since 2006
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>>70896425
I've been here since before moot was even born.
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>>70891743
The conjuring was dope though. His first Halloween movie was good.

I thought the second was ok.
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>>70891635
his remake was disappointing, it's true
Halloween 2 was the best film of the series since Halloween 3 though
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>>70892219

That movie wasn't scary at all and if anything that ending scene kind of made me think it was a comedy.
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>>70893358
>Implying people that liked the last captain america movie would also like snyder and vice versa.
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>>70894950
Agreed. Halloween 78 really aged poorly.
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>>70893543
i think BvS was brilliant, but i really dug house of 1000 corpses.

Good discussion happens man, just make the threads
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>>70893914
>>70894130
>>70894200
>TFW i really like snyder and Zombie films
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>>70894950
>>70898867

Fucking plebs
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>Watching Zombie's Halloween II
>For some reason Mike takes his mask off
>For some reason Mike talks
>For some reason Loomis is a complete fucking sleazebag
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>>70894950
I like Zombie's Halloween but come on.
The original Halloween is overall one of the greatest horror films of all times.
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>>70893462
I second this.
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I liked RZ's first Halloween and the 2nd one had its moments too.

I loved how brutal MM's stabbing was on people; repetitive, fast, full arm swings down on people
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>>70899594
The first one (I'm probably gonna get some You's for this) plays out nearly like a comedy because the actors just aren't up for the task. I bought entirely Zombie's white trash aesthetics and his focus on the emotional side of participants and how he handles the actual trauma (the second film), it's absolutely fucking spooky the conclusion he comes in at the end of the 2nd and I'm legit scared of it.

Michael whacking that kid off in the woods is legit scarier than anything I saw in Carp's Halloween.
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>>70899740
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>>70899740
I know what you mean, though I prefer 2 over 1
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I actually liked the RB halloween movies more than the originals. Infact I cant even say I liked the first ones, the RB ones aint great or even "good". They are watchable though and I watch them every halloween in my movie marathons that I have during that month.
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>>70899827
Rob Bombie?
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The scene in the 2nd one when he finds his daughter in the bathroom made me feel a bit.

>oh, annie, annie annie.
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Zombie's films look fucking drop dead gorgeous desu, dude can direct with own unique flair and has great sense for cinematography


Honestly don't know which I wan't more, pure psychological drama from him OR a full blown psychedelic film, both I'd take gladly.

>>70899897
Everyone was definitely overperforming in Halloween 2, Zombie managed to make mediocre actors pull out very good performances.
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The halloween movies were always shit.
They introduced the cancerous Slasher subgenre of horror movies thus setting the standand for over the top gorefests instead of genuinely creepy movies.
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>>70899980
>halloween introduced the cancerous Slasher subgenre of horror movies
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>>70891738

Amaranth pls go
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>>70894950
>While posting a mainstream horror film
It was made and distributed by an indie studio.
>his Halloweens are more obscure than The VVitch
What the fuck are you smoking? His Halloween movies were made and distributed by major studios and the first one made way more money than The Witch.
>And Carpenter's Halloween is like a fucking comedy if you ever seen it, the ending to Halloween 2 by Zombie is far more scarier than Carpenter's Halloween.
Jesus Christ, kill yourself.
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>>70899778
I just can't agree with you. The original's performances were very much of its time, valley girl accents and all, but nothing particularly bad. Jamie Lee Curtis was very good actually, And overall, Carpenter craft is just superior. I mean, his craft is fucking genius, he shows you everyday life in the suburbs in an off putting, eerie way that I've never seen in any other film. It's actually beautiful.
I agree on how Zombie grounds the themes and takes them to a another level, and I really like it, but the original is just something else.
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>only a zombie
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>>70894905
>>70894924
>>70894950
>>70898867
>>70899778
You Rob Zombie fans are the worst. The Devil's Rejects and House of 1000 Corpses are his only good films and neither of them come close to the original Halloween or the other horror masterpieces that John Carpenter made.
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>>70900145
More power to you if you can find enjoyment in both. I do like Carpenter very much, not just his Halloween.

>>70900196
Lords of Salem is a great film about drug addiction though? and Halloween 2 is a great film about trauma?

?
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>>70900119
A24 is "indie" in the sense is not Paramount, but is still pretty big. The Witch is mainstream, let's not kid ourselves here.
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>>70899980
>They introduced the cancerous Slasher subgenre of horror movies
You have no idea what you're talking about. Here's a list of slashers that came out before Halloween:

>Peeping Tom
>Psycho
>The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
>Black Christmas
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>>70900119
I have seen the VVItch mentioned in the past year more than I have seen Zombie's Halloweens.

and A24 is as mainstream as they come anon
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>>70900404
>I have seen the VVItch mentioned in the past year more than I have seen Zombie's Halloweens.
Do you seriously think that means The Witch is far more well known than Rob Zombie's Halloween movies? The Witch just came out, of course it's going to get more discussion than some shitty remakes that came out many years ago. I shouldn't have to explain this.
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>>70892219
The Witch is not a horror movie you fucking retard.
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>>70900552
Then what the fuck is it?
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>>70900119
Something can be indie and mainstream. Something can be put out by a large company and still obscure.
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>>70900937
I'm aware. See
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