>"They wanted to do a retro movie. I don’t like that. Every movie I work very hard to make them completely different, with different planets, with different spaceships, make it new"
Why do we hate him again?
>>70850852
Because they weren't very good.
>>70850852
Because the prequels were terrible
>>70850852
for selling
>>70850870
>>70850904
Star Wars was always terrible though
>>70850904
Ah, the old "prequels were bad" meme.
Exquisite.
>>70850965
How are they "good", then?
>>70850965
New story, actually explains what is the force and how are jedi trained.
Offers a close approach at why did the main antagonist became Vader, developing a tragic backstory that is further explained in The Clone Wars saga.
Introduces characters like Maul and Dooku, making clear how different are the sith and how many aprentices Sheev had over the years.
Politics are a really important matter in the universe, as Palpatine's rise to power is part of the 1000year sith Grand Plan of managing the universe by the use of politics, economics and spionage.
We get to see Obi Wan in his prime and how hard did he strive to mantain anakin in the light side of the force.
Should I go on?
>>70850904
>the fucking hallway painting
every time
>>70850923
You're terrible
>>70850904
pleb
>>70850852
only fat autistic plebs hate him
>>70851217
it's art
>>70851190
Meant to quote >>70851065
>>70851190
>New story, actually explains what is the force and how are jedi trained
Except the "midiclorians" and Jedi training were utter shit. These elements were best left shrouded in mystery.
>Introduces characters like Maul and Dooku
Shit characters with no depth
>Politics are a really important matter in the universe
And the "politics" are fucking boring and utterly unengaging
>>70851343
Fuck off pleb retard
>>70850852
Because he has made bad decisions after bad decisions, and he should know that the his success came from working with talented people, if he had made the original trilogy the way he wanted it wouldn't have been successful at all, he made bad decisions in the original trilogy, he made bad decisions in the prequels and he made a bad decision by selling the franchise to disney.
>>70851381
Nice rebuttal Lucasfag
>>70850965
> le old [something]
> exquisite!
> le fun fact
> remember friends!
> protip:
fuck off to reddit
>>70850965
>defending this garbage
>>70851557
>garbage
you mean kinography?
>>70851656
Kino implies quality
>>70851343
Then is a matter of taste, anon.
>>70851428
Are your jimmies shreded my fellow anon?
Did my devious flim flams relinquished your emotional well being?
>>70851696
exactly
fuck off goldberg, you're too stupid for actual art
>>70851557
It's not a bad design.
>>70851557
So how would you deploy thousands of robot troops anon? Why does Lucasarts hasn't contact you yet?
>>70851656
>>70851784
>>70851824
literally looks like a ps2 game
>>70851783
"""art"""
>>70851784
That's not the issue, it's lazy and unengaging. It's cold, sterile and lifeless.
>>70851824
see above.
>>70851718
Indeed. People with shit taste like the prequels.
>>70850852
I don't hate him but the prequels were awful.
>>70851871
>a film made in the year 1999
>"ps2 game lol"
>the original trilogy was puppets and lego ships
>>70851874
>>70851884
Yeah, yeah, we know how cool are you because you don't like the prequels, you are big boys.
>>70851874
Yeah the scene looks terrible but the design isn't. I think it could work in a total different context/environment.
>>70851874
that's a beautiful motion picture, I literally feel bad for your plebness
>>70851874
>cold, sterile and lifeless.
only for the sensibilities of a talentless overweight autist
>>70851871
your face looks like a ps2 game
Same shit every day.
>"hurr Jorge Loocus why do we hate him guys?"
>literally same posters giving literally the same opinions on him, as if they would change day to day
>brain cells continue to rot
I hate all of you.
>>70851935
>the original trilogy was puppets and lego ships
And yet it still looks far better than the prequels
>>70851935
I bet you saw them in theaters as a kid. That's the only logical explanation.
>>70851939
The worst thing about the prequels is the lost potential 2bh.
>>70851884
People with shit taste make up the majority of earths population. the average media drone is told not to like the prequels
therefore it is actually you that has shit taste because your shit taste goes unchallenged
Disney = shit taste
prequels = absolute truth
ot = safe fedoracore movies for tamed nu-males
>>70851190
>New story
fair
>explains what is the force and how are jedi trained.
this get's caught in a lot of people's craws because star wars is a fantasy first and foremost. It would be like trying to explain the science and backstory to merlin's powers, or king arthur's sword. It doesn't make the universe richer to know what midichlorians are, it doesn't make the jedi more interesting to know that they were a creepy cult and all trained in a hogwarts like school on coruscant.
>Anakin Skywalker becoming Darth Vader
Our first explanation of Darh Vader was that Vader was a pupil of Obi Wan's that was seduced by the dark side, became so evil that he destroyed the personality within himself that was anakin skywalker, and is now more machine than man. In the prequels we learn that anakin was a jesus-like figure conceived by midichlorians, raised as a brat, became a creepy stalker, and was eventually tricked into becoming evil in one of the most rushed and poorly executed turns in movie history.
>Maul and Dooku
Maul was underdeveloped and Dooku's name is literally derived from "doodoo" because Lucas wanted to stick it to the fans. I am not making this shit up it's in "How Star Wars Conquered the Universe" He is one of the many mistakes made in Attack of the Clones because Lucas didn't really bother to write the script until the movie was already filming and even then he just cobbled that movie together out of set pieces. There was no master plan for the prequel trilogy, it's all last minute bullshit decisions.
>1000year sith Grand Plan
Read above, there was no plan. Sheev's plan was so riddled with holes and easily countered by the most basic of common sense that the only reason he wasn't found out was due to a sith plot device that made all of the Jedi 70 IQ retards. There was nothing smart about his plot, nothing clever or inventive, it relied on the jedi being so blind and idiotic that it was sheer luck that it worked.
>Obi Wan in his prime
Yeah pretty good.
>>70851968
>And yet it still looks far better than the prequels
no it doesn't, it looks unimaginative, outdated, gay and shitty and restricted by technology
>>70852007
the majority of plebs enjoy all 7 movies with no hate toward any of them
you deluded.
also the prequels are Reddit.
>>70851964
this
>>70852027 (You)
>>70850852
>Why do we hate him again?
The more you know about the star wars movies, how they were made, what was going on behind the scenes, and why the prequels turned out the way that they did the less and less you will like George Lucas.
That said he is very giving and will probably go down as one of the most generous people that ever lived, so on that front he is great. But as a creative individual and the driving force behind Star Wars he's a Gene Roddenberry-esque figure who at certain points actively worked to sabotage his own creation.
>>70852045
>the majority of plebs enjoy all 7 movies with no hate toward any of them
and degenerate autistic plebs or fedoracore pseud drive-fanatics hate the prequels
>prequels are Reddit.
nope
reddit = disney
if someone on reddit likes prequels its just collateral damage from disney owning star wars
>>70852112
>The more you know about the star wars movies, how they were made, what was going on behind the scenes, and why the prequels turned out the way that they did the less and less you will like George Lucas.
complete opposite
>>70852197
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3tj2w2/i_just_watched_all_six_movies_after_many_years_of/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/24hkra/sick_of_excessive_star_wars_prequel_bashing/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3o8xwh/rant_why_i_like_the_prequels_more/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2okafq/do_the_prequels_get_more_hate_than_they_deserve/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3equef/what_did_you_like_about_the_prequels/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3q75k3/why_we_shouldnt_hate_the_prequels_that_much/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2k27ik/can_we_please_get_some_prequel_love_in_here/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/srslj/the_best_things_about_the_prequel_trilogy/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/31y016/thoughts_on_the_prequels/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3lt66n/what_is_your_favourite_thing_about_the_prequels/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2ef1pr/what_did_the_prequels_do_right/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2mm6fo/fans_of_starwars_that_prefer_the_prequels_what_is/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/1kql2p/who_actually_enjoyed_the_prequels/
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/2asedx/what_did_you_like_about_the_star_wars_prequels/
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1wql13/whats_something_you_actually_like_about_the_star/
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/35vgbn/which_of_the_star_wars_prequels_was_the_best/
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/3won8k/fans_of_the_star_wars_prequels_separate_or_as_a/
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/2djt5b/what_are_some_things_the_star_wars_prequel_films/
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/3ytvlr/discussion_the_star_wars_prequels_are_not_as_bad/
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/2vauhq/just_watched_all_6_star_wars_movies_feel_like
>>70852237
collateral damage
nice damage control reddit loser jew
>>70852025
Considering Lucas had planned on naming Sith Lords "Darth Badguy" and "Darth Evilus" I can believe that.
>>70850852
Because he made the special edition.
Because he made the prequels.
Because he made a big stink about how SW was "my movies" and that everyone else was wrong about them, then he fucking sells "his movies" to fucking disney for more billions that he doesn't need. So much for his attachment to "his creation."
He's a fraud and a sellout.
>>70852272
>denial
>>70852314
>explicit damage control
>replies with denial
haha stay cucked anime virgin
It's a shame Lucas quit when he did. He had 39 episodes of the kino already finished and Disney axed it instead of letting true Star Wars fans embrace George's new vision of what Star Wars could be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMVrMP8us6Q
>>70852429
A real shame.
>>70852282
he's old and wants to do other personal things than just star wars, but if he does that it will result in his company losing money thus losing jobs
makes sense
making special editions and witholding the original enforces auteurship and invalidate accusations of being a fraud
prequels are independent and authentic
get educated cuck
>>70852227
And you've read / seen / heard what exactly?
>>70852272
Not a healthy way to react to actual hard evidence that disagrees with your ass-pulled opinion.
>>70850904
>not showing the kinography
Seriously Attack of the Clones had amazing cinematography.
>>70851557
What the fuck is wrong with this video? For 1999 these visuals were amazing (apart from that wide shot which looks a little too fake) but the close ups of the droids are fucking great
>>70852483
>he's old and wants to do other personal things than just star wars
He's been saying that for 25 years. Get educated.
>making special editions and witholding the original enforces auteurship and invalidate accusations of being a fraud
It enforces his hatred for SW and its fans.
>prequels are independent and authentic
Authentically shit.
Fuck off, prequelscum.
>>70852536
>actual hard evidence
it's not actual hard evidence when I can find over 1000 times as many posts to counter it and posts in favor of disney garbage and other easy unchallenged groupthink
not to mention the only reason those posts don't get downvoted and deleted is because any favourable opinion of star wars is good for disney thus like I said what little favourable opinion there is is purely collateral damage
reddit = TFA
>>70852610
not him, just want to hear your opinion on TFA.
>>70852647
The definition of "eh, it was OK." Seen it twice, don't think I'll watch it again. Not any time soon, at least.
>>70850904
I'm surprised no one posts the shitty CGI by JJ from the Force Awakens.
>>70851557
Everyone loved this bit when it came out you underage faggot.
>>70852483
Lucas made the special editions for two reasons, firstly he wanted to use the films as a test bed for CGI work for his teams in preparation for making the prequel trilogy, things like creating full CGI character, compositing CGI backgrounds into pre-shot foreground footage, deleting / editing existing footage digitally to get different effects, and using his digital tools to clean up old film stock. Secondly he and LucasFilm were nearly bankrupt at this point and the special editions were a very cheap way to make a shitload of money.
A third reason is that he is pretty vengeful and wanted to get back at his wife, who was a better editor than he was by undoing some of her work and making the films more like what he had envisioned (which was worse).
>>70852581
It's lifeless and boring. There are no stakes.
A film that coldly exploits the works of craftsmen and artists in a sterile, computer controlled environment resulting in a series of colourful, crisp images that are played in a sequence.
Learn a thing or two about film.
>>70852641
Well you better get to work collating all of that data because as it stands you're the one with nothing to back you up at all.
>>70852704
>not even knowing that Lucas had lots of miniatures and practicals in the Phantom Menace
Also: I agree that he should have spent more work on Attack to make it look more realistic BUT Episode 3's opening CGI space battle worked really well and was very impressive!
>If you think that Lucas could have done an entire space battle in 2005 with practicals then just no... no director in today's world would do that
>>70852693
Don't move the goalposts.
>>70852695
Ironic, considering you were young enough to enjoy this movie.
The Phantom Menace is now the greatest example of cinematic blue balls in the history of motion pictures. Never again will anything be more wildly anticipated, or a bigger disappointment.
>>70852610
>He's been saying that for 25 years. Get educated.
And? literally good for him. Suck my dick
>It enforces his hatred for SW and its fans.
most """""fans""""" (read: OT video game autists) are vapid plebs who demand to be entertained specifically to their shitty, filtered, tame, mediasexy, ultrapleb poisonous pop culture standards
his hatred for cucks like this reinforces his authenticity and devotion towards his own perversions (a mark of a real artist)
he doesn't take orders from plebs, cucks, business men and other anti-art cancer, that's why ever since esb every episode was privately funded
fuck off goyim
>>70852744
When people bitch about too much CGI in the prequels they are almost always talking about Episode II and Episode III which had a lot of green screen box sets and actors staring into nothingness like when obiwan is fighting grevious.
Episode I was a late 90's movie and in a dozen or so years will be known as "that one prequel move that didn't age like milk" because it had so much that was done practical and because there was less CGI they could devote more time to polishing it.
All that said it's still an awful fucking film in terms of just about everything else minus the music.
>>70852747
besides TFA
>>70852744
Even the few practical effects are wasted a horrible, awful, stupid and nonsense script where a 10-year-old blows up a Federation Space station.
>>70852827
sure buddy. maybe for you.
>>70852747
>The Phantom Menace is now the greatest example of cinematic blue balls in the history of motion pictures.
nice twitter fedoracore IMDB opinion
I bet youre such a fan of movies, I bet you love cinema and watch the oscars
lmaoing @ your life
>>70852829
Did you even watch this
>>70852693
Also that Phantom Menace CGI is fucking GOAT for 1999.
You are just brainwashed by people who want to hate the prequels to death.
Oh the prequels have some good stuff in them
>NO THEY DON'T!
This is how you people act.
>>70852811
Go listen to duel of the fates some more. Prequelscum trash.
>>70852736
You have a fundamental misconception of what constitutes "reddit" as a pejorative.
Just because something is found on reddit does not mean it's inherently 'reddit'. There's like a billion sub-reddits, many of them contradictory to each other, and the vast majority don't encapsulate reddit as an entity. Just as boards like /o/ or /an/ don't encapsulate 4chan just because they're on 4chan.
When someone calls something "reddit" on 4chan what they're referring to is the zeitgeist of reddit. Those prevailing bottom-feeding opinions that grip the top of the most popular subreddits propelled by the throngs of plebs who frequent the site.
>>70852891
FYI that hangar is not CG. Or at least I seem to recall that they made a model of it, not sure if they used it in this scene though.
>>70852939
So what you're saying is that "reddit" as a pejorative is one of the most vague and ill-defined terms to ever grace this website. Honestly it is just easier and more intellectually honestly to just say: "When someone on 4chan calls something 'reddit' they are saying that they don't like whatever has been said"
>>70852928
go upvote some more jews on imdb with your imperial march cuck anthem playing in the background, nu-male
>>70852982
it's completely irrelevant either way, because CGI does not make or break anything unless you're a brainwashed shitter
>>70853039
>vague and ill-defined terms to ever grace this website
That's where you're wrong. What's reddit and what's not is intuitive to anyone whose spent a decade on 4chan. It's second nature.
>>70852891
Good special effects are wasted on a bad movie with no emotional weight.
The prequel could of been fantastic but they wasted so much of their potential.
These are movies made by the man that started one of the greatest film trilogies of all time.
Star Wars (1977) was one of the most influential movies in terms of filmmaking and capturing audiences and inspiring future generations of filmmakers.
Don't apologize for him. The expectations were on him because he took it upon himself to do it.
If he couldn't, he should of got some help, but his fucking ego prevented that.
It's like Lucas finished the script in one draft and like, turned it in and they decided to go with it, without anyone saying that it made no sense at all and that it was a stupid, incoherent mess. I guess at this point, who's going to question George and tell him what to do? He controls every aspect of the movie. He probably got rid of those people who questioned him creatively a long time ago.
>>70850852
Because everything he has control over ends up being trash.
/thread
>>70853069
Calling something "Reddit" is the literal equivalent of downvoting something.
>>70850904
The prequels were miles better than this Jewish fanfiction shit.
>>70853180
t. someone that doesn't understand filmmaking
>>70853196
t. someone who fucks guys
>>70853151
It can be if you use it that way.
The word means different things you dig? That's where your hang up is. You can't discern all the nuanced differences because you lack the requisite experience so you throw up your hands and exclaim "its meaningless!"
>>70850965
>meme
Should I pull out the Wayback Machine.
>>70850852
George Lucas raped my childhood
Disney pimped my childhood
>>70853223
>Reddit boogeyman shitposting
fuck off, /v/.
>>70853216
I've still fucked more chicks than you.
>>70853216
>a shitty non-canon play that no one cares about
>>70853279
Who cares. You're still a boring fuck.
>>70853269
Oh man. Don't think anyone is falling for your transparent attempt to fit in.
Lurk more and you wont stand out like a square.
>>70853069
Nope. "Hurr reddit" meant something else just a few years ago, and as someone who doesn't browse reddit I'm not reddit-savvy enough to know what's reddit or not nowadays.
>>70853315
No.
I'm a /tv/ regular unfortunately.
>>70853307
Not even the guy you quoted, just wanted to let you know I've banged more chicks than you and still get that sweet boipucci.
>>70853331
I repeat, who cares.
>>70850904
>not appreciating star wars for the retro camp sci fi it was always meant to be.
>not enjoying the amount of hard work that went into the digital scenery
holy shit this board never fails to depress me
>>70853315
calling things Reddit makes you seem like even more of a person trying to fit in.
>>70853331
this asshole be at pussy church first
>>70853196
t: inside-the-box-thinking, uncultured drone that not only lacks a grasp on ""filmmaking"", but also lacks a grasp on the website he's posting on
basic bitch cuck, enjoy living in the matrix cucc
>>70853326
>implying you need to browse reddit to be able to discern reddit from 4chan
You don't need to go to Africa to recognize a black man.
>>70853365
Nah, that's just foolish. He made the decision to date the film the moment he decided to have people draw all the backgrounds rather than shoot practical locations. I don't care how much work went into the backgrounds then, I care about how it looks today.
It looks like shit, in case you were curious.
>>70853365
>retro camp sci fI
Ah yes, those political senate scenes and exposition filled shot-reverse-shot conversations sure were pulpy space based action-adventure!
It's a shame that Disney knows Star Wars better than the man who made it.
>>70853378
It does if you aren't using it right.
>>70853433
JJ's fanfiction will look like a bigger shit in a few years.
>>70853269
you got absolute blown the fuck out
your response is fucking trash, at least try
>>70853396
I don't change my opinions to "fit in".
>>70853414
fuck off with your meaningless boogeyman shitposting.
>>70853451
never, ever fucking reply to me ever again or else.
>>70850904
NO U
>>70853445
>>70853433
>>70853449
Fanfiction it may be, but ugly fanfiction it aint. The prequels looked like shit in the goddamn theater. VII will hold up, at least visually, for a good long while.
>>70851343
Subjective reasoning all around.
>>70853501
No it won't.
>>70853518
Kay
>>70853302
it is canon though
>>70853468
>I don't change my opinions to "fit in".
That's because you don't have to, your opinions are already tame and uninteresting and defined by your lack of character
your posts literally upvote themselves, great job reddit
>>70851385
>he should know that the his success came from working with talented people
He knew that, which is why he has given the scripts of II and III to Holy Cow Kasdan for review.
Guess what? Kasdan said: "Nah, George, everything is fine."
Everyone associated with this franchise aged to hell and Lucas was one of the only ones trying to make something new (along with John Williams, who succeeded with the prequels OST, but made the same old shit for TFA). The fact that Kasdan wrote a painfully pathetic script for TFA shows that.
>>70851557
but that looks awesome
>>70851428
Why would he go to plebbit? To circlejerk about how "good" Jew Jew Wars were? Fool.
>>70850904
>prequelfags will defend this
They should all be gassed desu.
>>70853468
I refer you to my previous post >>70853223
Just because you can't see the meaning doesn't mean it's meaningless. Lurk more before you post.
>>70851871
>1999
>prequel trilogy
kinęmœç
>old trilogy
films
>new trilogy
shitty flicks
>>70853447
>boogeyman shitposting """correctly"""
>>70853553
>having an opinion just because it's "different" and "unique"
lmao these fucking retards.
>>70853445
>p-p-pulpy space based action-adventure
go marathon firefly again, permavirgin redditor
>>70853594
maybe not make the movie 99% CGl then
>>70852045
>Y-you are reddit!
Upvoted, bro, go get those prequelfags, Disney rules XDD
>>70853586
If Reddit boogeyman shitposting had any value to discussion it wouldn't be banned now would it?
really makes you think…
>>70853598
>not having unique and different opinions
>spongebob /v/edditor reaction pictures
low iq user detected
>>70853579
Die, pleb.
>>70853648
>denying a opinion because many others share it
you're a contrarian and your opinion has no value.
Please don't reply to me anymore, you've lost this discussion.
>>70853659
Pff, those loser prequelfags making silly threads, bro XDD You gotta just look at the subreddit banners to look where the REAL star wars at :DDD
>>70853640
You still don't understand, you've haven't been here long enough to understand. You tack on some labels "boogeyman shitposting" to feel like you understand, but you're only fooling yourself.
Do you know what is a quarter tone? Like in music. Between C and C there's a sound. You can't call it C because it isn't, it's not C either. It's its OWN thing. That's 'reddit'. You dig?
>>70851874
>>70853676
That's episode 3 you blind retard.
They had to make a set for it because of the Sheev fight.
>>70853708
C and C sharp*
>>70853676
>>70850904
>>70853690
>contrarian
nice meme, low iq user
i'm literally unironically running circles around you
come back to me when you have some actual perspective on the world as well as your life
>>70853713
It's the same set used since episode I
>>70853733
>>70853708
stop replying to me, your inane and retarded opinions are making me feel stupid.
Keep acting like your boogeyman has any value, maybe one day you'll fool someone.
>>70853754
>>70853712
So George still found a way to make it look like garbage? That's even worse..
>>70853759
Maybe a simpleton board like /v/ is more you speed.
>>70850852
ITT:
>YOU ARE REDDIT!
>NO U
>NO U BOOGEYMAN
>NO U
inb4 YOU KEK
>>70851820
tfw a few years ago I was actually watching this doco, and had to do the biggest double-take
>>70853835
hello 4chan.
>>70853783
it looks better, it looks realer than real life
kill yourself cuck
>>70853911 (You)
why were the droids in the old prequels chinese, how can people defend this racism
Let me end this discussion.
The prequels were bad films with some good visuals, some bad ones.
However. The Prequels were near-perfect Star Wars stories. The novelisations were sublime as well. TFA, despite being a "better made" film, was a god-awful Star Wars story that was out of tune with the Star Wars lore. I get it that the majority of movie-goers like it, and dislike the prequels, but for a Star Wars fan that's in it for the stories, TFA was a big let-down.
>>70851874
>robots look cold, sterile and lifeless
You don't say?
>>70852522
I bet you think George Lucas went out of his way to only surround himself with yes-men when making the prequels.
Non sequitur, that the new movie was bad doesn't make the Lucas prequel "not bad" all of a sudden.
>>70851820
OK, that's fucking hilarious.
>>70857344
its just /tv/ contrarianism at work as usual
same reason batman vs superman was "kino"
>>70850923
This
