what went wrong?
directed by a talentless jew
>>70841155
Jews.
Rehashed the plot of A New Hope bit-for-bit, too many cutesy references to past entries, Rey felt unnatural because we didn't get to fully empathize with her because she succeeded at everything without trying, it had lots of plot holes but the movie was edited real fast to try and make you not notice.
>huge fanbase of idiot fans
>>70841155
The prequels set the bar so low, all they had to do was not make the movie laughably bad.
>>70841155
>remade A New Hope in stead of making it it's own movie
>Mary sue main character
Anything else?
>>70841155
JJ Abrams' remix of the original Star Wars is like listening to karaoke. Fun but pointless.
>>70841285
inb4 autists trying to paint the prequel as an artistic masterpiece
>>70841285
the funny/weird thing for me is while i acknowledge the prequels were lesser films, they still felt like Star Wars movies to me. TFA didn't really capture that feeling. Boyega was the best thing about the movie. quite glad it turned out that he upstaged nearly the entire cast not called Harrison Ford because damn this site gets really fucking racist at times.
>>70841426
>they still felt like Star Wars movies to me
How?
Because they stuffed as much light sabres in it as they could?
>>70841155
Pandered to the cancerous nostalgia crowd that is almost singlehandedly tearing Hollywood apart.
>>70841525
can't quite put it to words other than to say there were sequences that felt idyllic like the OT in all three:
I - the pod race,
II - the chase sequence through Coruscant, the lightsaber duels near the end
III - Anakin's turn to Vader, yoda v Sheev, Anakin v Kenobi
not saying these were exceptional sequences, but they had that pulpy sci-fi feel the OT had. nothing in TFA other than when Han and crew were assaulted on his ship felt like that. maybe it's the fucking force, for all i know, but TFA was a disappointing follow up. hope the next one rekindles my interest in the series.
>>70841525
Not who you replied to, but for me TFA was being too wink-wink, nudge-nudge to feel like Star Wars. The whole time I was watching TFA I felt like JJ Abrams was shaking my arm and pointing out all the things that were Star Wars-like in it.
>>70841155
it was really fun
go outside more
It didnt topple Avatar worldwide thanks to Chinkna
>>70841784
It was too self-aware. All the humor felt like it was being delivered by people who knew they were in a Star Ward movie ("who talks first", "that's not how the force works", the part where the annoying orange crawls across the table at Boyega.)
The funny moments in the originals were only funny as an audience member, as something you observed. Like when Han ran around the corner into the hanger full of stormtroopers or when Lando was nervously trying to convince himself that the shields would be down on the 2nd Death Star. In the new movie I was half expecting one of the characters to do a fucking Jim Halpert camera look. The 2010s style of sarcastic self aware quip comedy just makes the rest of the movie feel meaningless and nonsensical. To put it another way, the action and the comedy in the OT were harmonious, while in ep 7 they were dissonant.
Guardians of the Galaxy>>>SJW:TFA
>pacing left no breathing room
>amount of shit crammed in the movie left no room for the development of literally anything
>the main character's entire arc was a set up for backstory exposition in the next film, and left her completely forgettable as a result
>went out of its way to replicate the political climate of the original trilogy, making its existence as a sequel feel pointless
>CGI looked noticeably bad in certain scenes
>>70842054
>rey
>forgettable
Tell that to the current and next generation of female pilots.
>>70841206
This, to be perfectly honest with you, family.
There were so many stupid coincidences to keep the plot moving. Rey happens to run into BB-8 and speaks droid; Finn happens to crash safely onto an area of the planet near all the action; the Millennium Falcon just happens to be fucking sitting there without its spacelocks or whatever engaged; Rey can expertly pilot it; Han just happens to be flying by; Orange Yoda happens to have Luke's lightsaber.
Whatever, there's tons of them. But the plot just keeps hammering you with quick cuts and quips, so you can't stop to think about anything.
It was completely unnecessary movie. It was not needed at all but to make money.
The prequels... you could say there was an interesting story about how Anakin became Vader. Good. Lucas wasn't able to make something of it, but there was a story to make.
After Return of the Jedi there should be nothing. The empire was destroyed, the force was balanced and all the pieces fitted nicely. It was only fan fiction from then on, but oh, the greed. Always the greed.
That pic makes it look like a goofy sitcom
>>70842277
Everyone on here seems to fucking remember her
>>70841155
EVERYTHING
Chewie looks like Kate Mara here
>>70841155han solo dies at the end
>>70841155
the story is bullshit. they had over 30 years to write this story and this is what they shit on our chests.
Disney
>>70845021
how do you black text?
>>70841155
The characters are all really boring. Rey has no character arc, Poe has 20 minutes of screentime, Kylo's an emo wuss with no backstory, Snoke is just Sheev 2.0, and the rest of them aren't even worth mentioning. Only Finn and Han are any good.
>>70845395
[black] [/blacked]
>>70841155
The series was always overrated.
>hyped for new republic
>lol no they're the rebellion again, oh sorry, the resistance
>>70841155
jews
As someone who's not a huge fan of SW, seen the OT like twice in my life, I just didn't really get anything special out of it.
It was fine, but I think it relied a lot on, "STAR WARS IS BACK STAR WARS FANS! OMG" and not so much on trying to be its own story.
I can't even recall most of it, but it seemed like it just shifted from action scene to action scene.
>>70841155
holy shit I thought that was a Red Dwarf poster from the thumbnail
>>70841426
the only thing i remember about boyega was his niggardly "whoah did you see that?" after everything that happens. nah fuck boyega. stop trying to pretend like there was anything good about this movie.
>>70845477
Only Boyega's charisma made Finn work. His writing is a complete mess and not in any way consistent with his backstory, which could have been great if they'd attempted to explore its effect on him in any way. But they didn't.
>>70841426
Honestly, this. I think the problem lays in the lack of familiar locations and species. While the aesthetics of a desert planet, an ice planet, and a forest planet are all present in TFA, none of them are ones we've been to before. Even with the species, we see tons of new ones, but not a single Rodian nor Twi'lek nor Ithorian. It causes the movie to feel a bit separated outside of Han, Chewbacca, Leia, and Luke. Even C3PO and R2D2 are barely in the movie.
>>70845777
Heavenly trips do not lie
Nothing went wrong. The movie was an all-around success. The """"""""patricians"""""""" of /tv/ just hate it cause it's popular.
>>70841155
Didn't hate the movie.
But what pissed me off the most is that you had two actors FROM THE RAID, who were RENOWNED for their fight choreography were just used as food for those tentacle monsters from D and D.
Nothing tbqh. 4/5 movie
>>70841411
>political dialogue is soooooooo boring
Kill yourself.
The plot and script.
Somehow HackHack Abrams couldn't tell the oldest story ever told, the hero's journey.
The change from an adventure story to an action story were our protagonists kill more people in this movie than the previous 6.
Complete tonal inconsistencies. We start the movie with a stormtrooper taking off his helmet as another wipes his bloody hand over him to han solo making jokes about murdering people with chewie's gun. People we are told that are abducted and indoctrinated child soldiers.
The only thing right was that Rey was cute. Other than that, Finn couldn't even turn luke/anakin's old lightsaber on correctly.
>>70845656
>not Starcucks
Only 98% /teevee/.
>>70845635
This triggered me more than anything.
>>70841206
The lego game of this is like an extended cut that will hav missions before events of episode 7 and between episode 6.
WHAT JJ SHOULD HAVE DONE
Cant wait to play it
It was a heartless assembly of everyone's favorite trademarked nostaltic moments slapped together for Kevin Smith-tier nostalgic man children
>>70841155
no women of color
It felt like those new Star Trek movies.
>>70841155
>ONCE AND FOR ALL
Yeah, good luck with that.
>>70845656
>but it seemed like it just shifted from action scene to action scene.
this.
my main problem was this. whenever there is an action scene then it had to be turned up to 10.
no gradual increase, just jumped to 10.
Let's be honest here. I think we can agree
Phantom Menace was better than this. Atleast it had some magic
>>70850367
definitely.
>>70844884
what channel is this?
One of the worst part about this movie that I rarerly seen mentioned is the destroy shields/rescue mission
Finn is literally risking the entire good guy fleet (of like 5 x-wings, seriously) just to rescue that girl he met a couple hours earlier.
Only to discover that she escaped on her own and didnt need to be rescued. Combined with the fact that they only managed to turn off the shields thanks to that Chrome trooper conveniently walking by and being willing to betray her entire organization
>>70841301
dumb ass science
Kylo Ren is an emo pussy
Han Solo went out like a dumbass
>>70850367
All the prequels are better than this. And I don't think 8 or 9 (shit like Rogue One doesn't even rate) will top them.
>>70850684
also the shield could be turned off at a remote station by a mid level officer, alone
We're told that Finn is an abducted and endoctrinated child soldier. Seeing his friend and people getting killed is so traumatic it sends him over the edge, and he betrays the only thing he has ever known, those that raised him, that shaped his moral compass, just like that. Then 5 minutes later he's seen laughing while killing the people he grew up with while quipping with the guy that was a few hours ago trying to gun him down, and that possibly could have iced his friend. An indoctrinated child soldier of a militaristic empire has the same humor as your average twenty-something american circa 2015? He's seen very eager to betray everything he has ever known, to be sort of a coward, but he'll do anything to save this girl he just met.
Poe is discount Han, they retained his tone-deaf humor in face of danger, except Han was also an asshole space pirate, not a paragon of good. Also no personnality, hell he's barely a character.
Rey has the same writing problems as Finn. It's established she's been living on her own, scavenging daily for a meager living, yet she's a goody two shoes that will protect the innocent droid, refuse a larger paycheck she's ever seen for -no- reason. Also yeah, she has no flaw, can do anything , and everybody likes her. She trusts Finn and Han without any reason other than "They're forced on an adventure together!". Ok JJ, remember the interactions of Luke, Han and Leia when they met? That's how it goes when you're forced to cooperate with people that comes from different background that don't know each other, it takes time.
JJ banked on nostalgia, while ignoring why people liked what they did. He saw that everybody liked the first space battle of Luke and Han, and he did the same with Poe and Finn. But it was great because it was the first time Luke and Han bonded after their first somehow cold interactions. It had a background. It was not the first 5 minutes of the movie.
>>70841155
Not much.
Played it safe so no one will complain like they did back then the prequels hit. The next one will be way better now that they've proven that they can make 'next gen' star wars.
>>70841680
Bingo. TV insight of the year.
