>Garona, I don't want you to die with me here on the battlefied, even though I've only known you for a few days and I'm not in love with you
>So I know what, why don't you kill me? That will bring peace between human and orc, even though I have no logical explanation for this
>Garona kills King Llane, orcs welcome her back with open arms without even suspecting anything, fuck they were implied to be an honorable race that would have shunned this kind of backstabbing, not even Gul'dan suspects some kind of betrayal is afoot
WHAT THE FUCK!?! Can we all agree this is was when the movie became shit?
>>70824815
Haven't watched it, was this a ruse?
>>70824815
everything orc was based, everything human minus some medivh scenes was weak
>>70824815
Well, shit had to happen that way, it's been cannon since the fucking Warcraft 2 manual
>>70824838
step aside vidya kino coming through
>>70824888
garna killing lane because shes being mindcontrolled by gu'dan is the "cannon."
>Captain America
>Agent Carter
>Preacher
>Warcraft
Is Dominic Cooper trying to be a meme actor?
>>70824888
It might have happened that way in the original lore, but the writing in the movie is so bad it made everything about the movie bad.
>>70824893
lmfao what's this guy doing
>>70824967
trying to figure out where the CG bad guys will be added.
>>70824949
He's not even a good actor, you see him on Graham Norton? Like a British Chris Pine, lights are on but no one's home.
Is the plot for this movie based on WC1 or WC2? No dwarves, elves and gnomes involved (in battle) so I figured it was WC1.
>Can we all agree this is was when the movie became shit?
No we can't. It became shit way before that.
>>70824815
You're retarded. He doesn't say it'll bring anything close to peace. He knew that Garona and himself were inevitably going to die so he sacrificed himself to ensure that at least she survived. The Orcs never liked her in the first place, so just the fact that she killed the king earned her some renown.
>>70824893
>Low quality cam-rips at lower FPS
I was watching out for this seen in the theater and it looked fine their.
>>70824815
I don't understand why he assumed her killing him would bring peace. I think it'd be more logical for him to beg a mercy, painless death than what we got. Also, dying by a "friendly" hand.
>>70825006
It WC1 badly retconned to introduce Thrall aka as Moise aka Jesus
>>70824893
>Blizztards actually defend this
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>70825025
>she killed the king earned her some renown
WHAT?! Prior to that the whole movie was about them being an honorable warrior race. Why would they accept some untrustworthy half breed defected to the Alliance and then defected back to them?
>>70824998
He was okay in Mamma Mia
>>70825070
>Why would they accept some untrustworthy half breed defected to the Alliance and then defected back to them?
I thought she was captured by the alliance, and didn't they hate her for being a half-breed?
>>70824815
>this is was when the movie became shit?
No, that was the first five minutes
>no way LLane will win against juiced up Blackhand
>Garona will die too as she is fighting with the humans
>LLane will die anyway
>Logical solution: Garona kills LLane, becomes warchief, ends war against humans
Was this really too hard to understand or did you need a freeze-frame and them talking into the camera to explain their actions?
>>70825043
Wasn't Thrall supposed to be born at the end of the WC2 campaign? has the timeline been messed up?
>>70825025
>inevitably going to die
Didn't see that thought. Why are they going to mass suicide with king then?
You will follow this... thing? Will you? You'll follow this demon?! I will not!
I FOLLOW A TRUE ORC! A chieftain...
Why didn't they just do an air assault with the Gryphons?
Hands down the best kino of 2016 so far.
>>70825161
that's tauren
>>70825186
Gryphons were not trainable until WC2
>>70825137
Thrall was born sometime after the Humans win and enslave the orcs, in between 2 and 3.
>>70825161
Why did the Orcs follow Gul'dan after that despite what he did? Fucking betas.
>>70825262
Did you not watch the movie? They all started to walk away from Gul'dan but he insta killed 3 of them. They turned around like pussies.
>>70824815
> known for a few days
are you retarded? not that i want to defend this trainwreck... but PAY ATENTION TO DETAIL!
her wounds on the neck went from ausschwitz level to almost healed!
that takes MONTHS!
>>70825137
In the original story Draka and Durotan were banished by Gul'dan during the first war and the frostwolf clan established himself in Alterac Valley. They were then murdered by some Gul'dan spies/assassin and Thrall was found in the amongst the bodies by an human commander of the internment camps of Durnhold.
It was just before the second war. So yes, the Moïse shit at the end is probably a troll directed against people naming him green jesus in the game. Like the hound who prefer chicken it's called surfing on memes or bad writing.
Lothar was OP and also did not kill Blackhand. Doomhammer killed Blackhand
Wasn't Thrall a half orc? I only played W2 and W3
>>70825303
But Frostwolves got exterminated in this movie right?
>>70825334
Yes
>>70825262
They saw him decimate three of them instantly by sucking up the fel. They don't know the extent of how much power the fel, and Gul'dan, can hold over them. Considering he sucked up dozens of souls to power a portal, they don't want to get theirs sucked up as well. The seeds of doubt have been sown though.
Hasn't this movie messed up Warcraft lore even moreso than The Burning Crusade? The events in WC1 are a lot different.
>>70824998
I don't watch talk shows because i'm not a pleb and i certainly don't watch Graham Norton because i'm not a middle aged woman pleb.
>>70824893
>all this money was spent on this shitty movie instead of increasing the quality of their games which they desperately need.
Blizzard everyone
>>70825332
No only Garona is half orc. But she's half orc half draenei, well nobody knows anymore.
Friendly reminder that the warcraft story before the Frozen Throne has been retconned so many times that even the people in charge don't know what it is at this point.
Warcraft lore is a giant pile of turd, it's subpar fantasy, sci-fy movie level. Only Blizzboys will defend this.
>>70825426
A simple no would have sufficed..
>>70825442
>Only Blizzboys will defend this.
They're too busy wasting their shekels on Hearthstone card packs and Overwatch loot boxes.
>Gul'dan sucking the energy out of that peasant was an allegory for Blizzard taking Wow subscription money
DEEPEST LORE
>>70825446
faggot
Why is King Varian Wrynn a white boy when his mother and older sister are niggers? Fuck how can a Lothar be the Queen's sister if she is Black and he is White?
>>70824815
>gamers talk about how good warcraft lore is or used to be in the beginning
>it gets a movie
>people who arent nostalgic for the games get exposed to the series for the first time
>they realize it's complete shit
>metzen has always been a hack
blizzard fanboys are already on suicide watch and keep parroting "w-wait for the warcraft 3 story that's when it gets good im serious"
What was david guetta casting there?
>>70825581
Sister looks Jew though.
>>70825589
>"w-wait for the warcraft 3 story that's when it gets good im serious"It does get good in Warcraft 3 and Frozen ThroneIt gets bad again after that
>>70825592
He was hearthing
>>70825592
chain heal
Warcraft movie in a nutshell
>le funny murloc at the beginning
>le hogger wanted panel
>le Ironforge CGI
>Garona story butchered
>le ripped Karate Kid Gul'dan story butchered
>Medhiv story butchered
>Blackhand/Hellscream/Doomhammer/Durotan story either ignored or butchered, on a side note on this, I know you can't introduce many characters because nowadays public is retarded but this isn't Game of Thrones.
>Overall story retconned, again.
>LE THRALL SUPERSTAR
>>70825655
>Warcraft 3
>good story
Act I and II was a rehash of the Kerrigan plot from StarCraft. Act II was a self contained orc story that could have been explained in 3 missions. Act IV was another 'good guys team up to defeat the evil faction' mission that we always get in every Blizzard game.
>>70825408
>burning crusade messed up the lore
Ha, shit has gone waaay off the rails since then, literally the last expansion has one of the orginal orc's son going back in time to WC1 and changing all kinds of shit.
>I can't possibly defeat this guy, you must kill me!
>Lothar shows up and kills that scrub in 5 seconds without even trying
My sides, what a fucking retard of a King
>>70825025
It looked pretty shit on screen too, but it's like a five second scene. Most of the CGI/Action is really good.
>>70825821
He was a retard for making a dash to the portal despite not knowing when it will close.
>>70825913
Nah, doing that meant he saved most of his enslaved citizens, which is the noble thing to do. /Tv/ as king, me included, would put self preservation first, but it's not 'retarded' not to.
>it's going to break the video game movie curse!
>it's going to be 90% on RT! dawn of vidyakino!
>w-who cares about the RT hivemind, fuck the critics and watch it and decide for yourself whether it's good or bad!
>what? of course I'm not watching the new ghostbusters movie, I saw the trailers and screenshots and based on that it looks like shit!
>it's a solid fun comfy 4/10 fantasy flick if you just turn your brain off!
Blizzdrones, ladies and gentlemen.
>>70824893
MOOOOMMM HE POSTED IT AGAIN
>>70825987
>4/10 fantasy
And it's generous. The fact is, it's a low tier fantasy movie for the general public and the blizzdrones should be outraged seeing how they destroyed the story, but no, they still defend this shit.
Well most warcraft fans became fans with WC3. They just want to see Thrall and Arthas, they don't care about about everything else.
>>70825820
Burning crusade was the 2nd xpac. Ur thinking of legion
>>70826198
Not it's you who have comprehension issue.
>>70826198
>Burning Crusade introduces outer space aliens (complete with crashed motherships) to Warcraft
We can't can't wait for this adaptation can we?
>>70825137
Thrall is supposed to be born fairly early into the first war iirc, while Blackhand is still chief.
The frostwolfs are banished, but Durotan approaches Orgrim and warns him of Gul'dan and the shadow council.
Gul'dans assassins get to Durotan.
Medivh dies and Gul'dan falls into a coma.
Orgrim assassinates Blackhand and takes control of the horde.
Orgrim slaughters the warlocks and makes Gul'dan submit to him as he wakes up.
Sometime during this Thrall is found among durotan and other frostwolves by humans.
>>70825589
The adaption isn't faithful to the game because it tries to pander to you and wowtards.
>>70824815
That was the least logical part of the movie, for sure.
I think Llane's logic was that it's better to be killed by a friend then have the enemy get the satisfaction of killing him.
Also did anyone else find it weird that Dom Cooper and Ruth Nigga were in this as well as Preacher?
if garona is a half human half orc (shes meant to be half draenei half orc) and orcs have never met humans until now
how does she even exist, and is however old she is
>>70826374
She's half draenei in the movie, that's how she understood what the draenei captives weresaying.
>>70825987
Did anyone really expect anything but a lukewarm film? All the movie had to do was establish a universe and some characters. I think the problem with the film is that it doesn't take enough time to do that.
>>70826374
>if garona is a half human half orc (shes meant to be half draenei half orc)
She's meant to be half human, half orc.
It made sense originally since it the orcs raid and scout for a lot of years before the actual invasion starts.
She could be up to 20 years in the original lore when she kills Llane.
In the movie though, there's a scene heavily hinting that Medivh went to Draenor and banged Garonas mom.
>>70826374
>>70826409
It's implied that Medivh is her father.
tfw no orc gf
>>70826467
You would not be an effective mate
He was going to die anyway, dying like that he managed to flip her and Azteroth has an informant/turncoat on the Orc side. I guess they don't suspect because she's been a subservient Orc slave all her life, but maybe there will be some tension in the next movie.
>>70825743
back to le reddit my man.
>>70825987
>it's going to break the video game movie curse!
Already has. Angry Birds too. See box office.
>it's going to be 90% on RT!
Said no one ever.
>dawn of vidyakino!
We already are.
Vidyakino will never come in the way you expect. It will never satisfy critics, because these old farts are in their 60s and 70s.
Warcraft is already breaking ice, and if you don't realise what it's doing, then you clearly haven't paid attention to the last half of the last decade.
Wasn't WC2 all about Lothar retaking Stormwind from the Orcs? What are we going to do for a sequel now that things have changed?
>>70825043
>>70825303
>Moïse
What did he mean by this?
>>70826618
That point in the story hasn't happened yet.
>if you kill me, it will forge a peace between orcs and humans
What the fuck? How? That's not even what ended up happening, right? She killed him, and they stopped fighting basically, and I was under the impression that both sides were just taking a breather from fighting. To collect their dead and stuff, i.e. Anduin swooping in and grabbing Llane's body. There is no peace not even an uneasy fake peace.
>>70826618
I predict a future sequel will be WC2 and Beyond the Dark portal merged into 1 story.
10 billion soulless chinks can't wrong.
Welcome to the future of film.
>>70825913
No, he was a retard for not going through with the prisoners.
>>70826909
wheeeew off to mordor!
>>70826909
You can tell Ragnar was totally phoning in his performance but having fun while doing so.
>>70826909
haha
can someone tell me if it's actually cut that way?
>>70824893
What's this guy doing?
>>70825761
i liked it :)
>>70826998
It's probably just his idle animation.
>WHAT THE FUCK!?! Can we all agree this is was when the movie became shit?
this movie was shit when the first trailer came out. all you man babies need to stop whining that it's not making money. nobody gives a fuck about this lame shit.
>Non-white elves
I vomited
>>70825041
He didn't. Are you retarded? Dude was gonna die and took a shot in the dark.
>>70824815
No the movie became shit way before this. This was just the apex of shittines.
>>70825070
> honorable warrior race
Judging orcs by Durotan is like judging the North by Ned Stark. Orcs do seem to have a strict warrior code, but if something is not covered by it, it's free for all. Most of them evidently have no qualms about killing women, children and prisoners.
Garona slays the king in battle, so the formal conditions are satisfied and she gets acclaim and protection by the laws (which saves her from imminent death). She achieves it (as the orcs see it) by cunning, but it's not a ritual one-on-one battle, so I don't see a problem here.
Also I don't think that Gul'dan particularly trusts her. She's just a valuable asset for him.
>>70826998
Seizing.
>>70824815
>if I poorly explain the plot and act like a total fucking faggot surely I'll get them to reply
>haha stupid blizzdrones I sure got them all these replies
But it's cool, least you saw it :^)
>>70827065
They gotta shove in some gooks before pandaria since only chinese will watch it
This movie was so stupid and the orcs were highly inconsistent with their alliance
>>70825821
Yes the King couldn't kill one guy and that's why he sacrificed himself. Gg retard did you even see the movie?
How come no mention of Sargeras?
>>70826996
no the webm is edited
>>70826343
No, no it wasn't. Did everybody in this thread just make up retarded shit when the scene came onscreen? Its so obvious what's happening. You don't have to like it but holy fuck did you even watch it
Why didn't the Alliance just shield + hearth out when the portal closed?
>>70825581
white genes are dominant
warcraft so racist
>>70826787
Said no one in the movie ever. Good lord /tv/ how the fuck did the plot of Warcraft escape you? This is not a complex movie.
>>70827221
Dude go easy okay my mom committed suicide today i'm pretty pissed off at the minute you DO NOT want to fuck with me right now man i swear i'm so mad i could just burst out of your fucking screen and choke you right now i swear to god man just go to another board or something you want nothing to do with me right now
>>70824815
They expected one of them in the wreckage
>>70827328
Another parent killing themselves because their child wasted money on Warcraft.
>>70825303
Thrall is literally green Moses though
>Separated from his parents at birth
>Found and raised by the "enemy"
>Breaks his people out of bondage
>Leads them across the sea to the promised land
>Has magic powers
>>70827185
Complicates shit significantly
>>70827221
What the fuck are you talking about
What happened then because that was my interpretation
>>70826872
>implying they aren't going to skip over it for Lord of the Clans
>>70827328
>fail as parent
>kill self
You should follow her example.
>>70825743
lele reddit funny guy XDD lele /tv/ is now also for reddit xDDD haha lelelele funny memes :DDDDDD
>>70827110
But Gul Dan was a gookchink wasn't he?
>>70825581
>all men are born white and women born black
is warcraft the utopia I have always dreamed for?
>>70827459
Don't forget he went alone into the wilderness to communes with the spirits
>>70827518
>What happened then because that was my interpretation
They *both were going to die* there if Garona didn't switch sides. The king said it, literally. He also hoped she could help negotiations (she is the only person speaking both languages that we know of).
I enjoyed the movie
Better than capeshit that's for sure
>>70827778
I prefer the game/book of version that it happened because of Gul'dan mindfuckery
>>70826899
>Troll
>Not Blue
Granted I haven't played in a long time, but this doesn't seem right.
>>70827778
Oh okay.
Guess that makes a little more sense.
Is Thrall seriously this popular in WoW fandom? He didn't even play a major role in WC3 (his debut) or the expansion.
>>70827847
The troll in the picture isn't a Warcraft trill
>>70827895
>Is Thrall seriously this popular in WoW fandom?
No. People are getting sick of his Mary Sue ways. Especially since he cheated in the duel against Garrosh. And for putting him as a warchief in the first place.
But he's Metzen's husbando so fuck everything. Big green cocks for everybody.
>>70827328
I never wanted anything to do with you(just like your mom); I just wanted you to know how retarded you are.
>>70827895
He had the whole founding of Orgrimmar thing but most people like him because he was their first warchief(WoW)
>>70827945
I blame Aggra
>>70827518
Why would you ask me what I'm talking about and then respond like you understood? Is this the kind of stupidity that allows you to ignore the most obvious shit in a movie that is not hard to comprehend?
>>70827917
I guessed as much, but having left before Cataclysm, who knows what new "long lost" races they could've introduced as a High/Night Elf race difference.
>All these lore noobs who have never even played the game in this thread
God. No wonder WoW's fanbase is so poisonous. Its full of children who are ask stupid questions instead of taking the time to learn.
>>70825301
i agree its supposed to have been a longish time.
giant fucking portals dont get built in days.
>>70825301
>What is the Light and Priests and Healing?
>>70826427
desu i'd rather have too little than what peter jackson did with the hobbit movies
>>70825743
>Garona story butchered
see this is how i know youre reddit
>>70827984
Because...I understood?
>>70828049
I know, Garona being Medivh's daughter is so much better then Garona being a Draenei/Orc hybrid.
>>70828049
She didn't get to bone Medivh and Gul'dan wasn't the reason she killed Llane.
>>70828049
>>70828069
Also, this means Yay! No stupid Garona/Medivh mary su god child!
>>70828082
>Didn't get that medivh was her dad in the film universe.
>>70827960
>tfw harassing with spirit wolves
>>70826998
taunting
>>70828082
>Gul'dan wasn't the reason she killed Llane.
thats a good thing you faggot
welcome to complex storytelling
good guy sometimes do bad thing
>>70828098
>implying that I don't want Garona to have a Mary Sue incest baby
>>70828051
And yet still asked me what I was talking about. Holy shit you can't even comprehend simple posts.
>>70824815
1. Point
Retard. Why would he want a loyal ally to die if he can prevent that and get 2.
2. Point.
He explained it you fucking moron.
3. Why would they suspect anything? They thought she was a captive.
No we don't. You are an imbecile.
Garona killed Llane because Llane knew it was the only way she would survive. And by surviving, maintain the ideals she had shown to agree with. Bringing peace between man and orc.
Garona killed Llane because Llane was a brilliant man and asked her to. He wanted her to just because it was best for everyone.
He knew he was dead as soon as the portal closed. He just chose for his death to mean something more then it already did, and to honestly help save a woman he had come to like and respect, in hopes that his dream of peace could come about.
>>70824815
M E T Z E N
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Warcraft story has always been shit.
>>70828182
bu-but my meme arrows
>>70827347
Have we started the fire?
>>70826899
Aren't female demons created to make us fall into temptation? if they're ugly they can't accomplish that
>>70828221
Blizzard's fanbase has always been toxic. At least they're paying to see the movie.
>>70828005
To be honest, m8.
It's all because Blizzard refuses to re-release the first 2 games on their website.
I played them when I was a wee lad and now it's impossible to get them without recurring to piracy and a hefty process to make it run.
>>70826409
She has kids with medivh
>>70826439
>medivh
>her father
>they have a child together that becomes the new guardian of tirisfal
>>70828286
True, true. But then, the original games didn't really include much lore except broad strokes.
>>70827712
WHITED
>>70828164
I understood after you explained it, that's generally how understanding something works.
Am I being trolled here?
>>70826409
She is not half-draenei in the movie. She is half-human, like she was originally. In the film, she is Medivh's actual daughter. Didn't you catch that moment where Medivh was talking about his love from far away?
That was Garona's mother. Its confirmed in the novelization.
Garona is back to being what she was originally, half orc, half human. And Medivh's daughter.
>>70828473
That's his imouto.
>>70824967
a rogue cast blind on him and his trinket isn't up
>>70828473
not CAUCKED
one job etc...
>>70827838
Same here, knowing that that was the original reason made the movie's decision seem shitty.
>>70828543
>Game Continuity
>Film Continuity
These are two different things, anon.
Garona in the game continuity became his lover and mother of his child.
Garona in the film continuity is his daughter.
>>70828543
That's the actual canon not the movie dumbass.
Did Blizzard ever do anything with Me'dan? Cause shit he sounded so OP that it'd have to make Thrall humble.
>>70828612
That doesn't mean we can't both.
>>70828475
You aren't being trolled, you're just an idiot. I never explained it to you and even if I had, I'm talking about your initial post.
>>70827518
Where you say wtf are you talking about and then go on to show that you do know what the fuck I'm talking about.
You're hilariously dim.
In the original games, Garona was actually half-human, and was supposed to be Medivh's daughter.
Eventually they changed it around the time of Burning Crusade when they were expanding lore and changing history.
>>70828458
They could scan all the material and make them available when you buy the game, something similar to the manuals on the games on Steam.
>>70828657
I didn't catch what he said in the film. You reminded me.
>>70828837
He talking about Garona about love. He travelled to a far away place and met a woman and he had to leave her.
>>70827518
>What happened then because that was my interpretation
Why do you need to interpret facts?
Who does /tv/ cast for the sequel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmndxoF74qQ
YOU FUCKING IDIOTS STOP SHIT TALKING WARCRAFT
YOU CAN BUY TICKETS BUT YOU DONT HAVE TO WATCH JUST DO YOUR PART TO GET A SEQUEL MADE SO WE CAN GET MORE NIGHT ELF TITS ON THE BIG SCREEN
FUCKING MORONS
>>70828900
Checked
>>70828909
>shills are getting this desperate
Good.
>>70828747
The manuals for WC 1 and 2 have lots of lore in them. A suprising amount considering how little is presented in the actual games.
I think they're content with WoW and third party sites being the lore database though, unfortunately.
>>70828909
You do realize it's at least two more movies until we get to those faggots right?
>>70828473
>not BLEACHED
>>70828902
WE WUZ HIR BEFO ANYONE
love it
Fuck all you guys I liked it and glad I went to see it in the cinema.
>>70829012
Trolls diindu nuffin
>>70828902
Idris Elba
>>70828900
Did they fuck?
>>70829000
>not CRACKED
>>70825430
>Blizzard increasing the quality of their games
Any profit is just pocket money for them to try a new game like Hearthstone, Overwatch, etc. They've established that the wow fanbase will eat whatever shit is shoveled their way as seen in the millions of subscribers that return each expansion only to leave 1-2 months later.
If we're being realistic, WoW paid itself off years ago and I doubt Blizzard ever thought they'd have to keep bullshit story this long.
>>70828837
> You reminded me.
He didn't. This >>70827778 is my post. But other than that I have no idea what the guy's problem is. He's probably high on something. And you seem to be a little slow to catch on.
>>70828237
succubi are; but then again, there are male incubi that do the same thing to women.
Let's be honest, lads.
Draka>Garona
>>70829427
HIRE THIS MAN
>>70824893
never mind the main orc look to the left as the one runs past and a female orc magicly apears and two orcs run right through her, when did orcs get blink as a race trait
>>70829427
That's like saying bread>shit
Movie was shit before that but that bit in particular felt like it was written by a 12 year old.
>>70829427
I'd let that fine example of an orcish amazon babe crush my pelvis during snu-snu.
>>70829311
incubi are a bit more rapey. A lot more, actually.
>>70828902
Vin Diesel
This shit wont even make 70 million domestically!
>Here, take my mothers tooth as a romantic token of my love
>>70829427
Definitely. Half-breeds are abominations.
>>70830135
If my girlfriend did that to me I'd propose on the spot
>>70830128
This shit was never expected to make more than 60mil domestic, it is breaking its targets for foreign though, and the execs said they are shocked and excited over the china figures - people keeping citing the drops there but those drops happened to furious 7 aswell, it still went on to pull huge numbers.
Keep it mind it still has like 20 territories to launch in.
>>70830128
How much was the budget?
>>70830676
>Fanboys are proud this movie is going to make 90% of its gross from foreign markets
Wow you guys sure have high standards. Warcraft is up there with Resident Evil 6
>>70830755
160 million production budget
>>70824967
he's in cocaine as all the producers
>>70830676
fast7 didn't drop to the single digits (6m) till after a couple weeks though.
>>70830870
fast7 was borderline capeshit imho
Can we all agree he did literally nothing wrong?
>wanted to save his people from a dying world
>gave them super strength to become super powerful
>BTFO Durotan, a traitor who sided with the humans against his own kind
>will lead the Orcish reich to conquer more worlds with more portals in the future films
Gul'dan is red pilled as fuck.
>>70831163
Eventually his skull becomes a magical McGuffin, and this movie made so much in ching-chong-Chinaland that sequels are pretty much guaranteed.
>>70831163
>future films
LOL
>>70831211
its not going to break 200m though
>>70831163
>his world wasn't dying because of him
>>70829537
>hasn't ever heard of Blink Orcs, colloquially known as Blorcs
Casual
>>70831308
There is literally no proof to back that up. And regardless, not like they can go back to that world anyway.
>>70831338
>sets foot on Azeroth
>a week later the land is blighted
Yeah, clearly no connection between the guy whose magic consumes life and the death of a world.
>>70831371
>Yeah, clearly no connection between the guy whose magic consumes life and the death of a world.
Well you know what? It's either the orcs or the humans. Survival of the fittest. Either the humans will win and whip out the orcs, or the orcs will do the same and move on to a new world to rape.
GAS THE HUMANS
RACE WAR NOW
>>70831211
China doesn't give up as much of the profits of a movie to the distributors as other countries.
>not even 60 million in US
>not even 10 (TEN) million in UK
JUST
>>70831308
this
>>70831732
they do when the distributor is owned by china, though.
>>70824815
>>Garona, I don't want you to die with me here on the battlefied, even though I've only known you for a few days and I'm not in love with you
What does being in love have anything to do with it?
>>So I know what, why don't you kill me? That will bring peace between human and orc, even though I have no logical explanation for this
Its not about bringing peace, but she stated before that if she killed the "Warchief"'s wife would make her a hero to the Orcs, so imagine what killing the Warchief himself would do to her honor, which might be enough for her to try to do anything to stop this conflict.
>>Garona kills King Llane, orcs welcome her back with open arms without even suspecting anything, fuck they were implied to be an honorable race that would have shunned this kind of backstabbing, not even Gul'dan suspects some kind of betrayal is afoot
Gul'dan literally cheated in front of every Orc in Azeroth during the duel and they were like "Whatever its all about the kill"
>>70824893
i cant get over how huge the orcs are, theres one scene where viking tries to pick up an orcs hand and his finger is basically thicker than his forearm. and the fucking humans charge them, we'd just get curbstomped and steamrolled. need artillery fire to kill em from a distance or magic or some shit.
also a real shame we never saw any dwarf or elf fighters.
>>70825041
He did it so she could affect change from within
>>70831163
Just came back from seeing it. Gul'dan was the only good thing about it. Probably one of the most competent villains I've seen in a while. He never fucked around, even once.
It was cool to see Magni, too, I guess.
>>70824815
Based Omniknight
>>70824815
yes this was dumb
I also didn't like the whole romantic subplot between her and lothar
finally I am become world of warcraft: the beginning
>>70824838
Sadly not, this whole movie was staffed by 13yr old fan fiction writers. Entire movie is filled with nothing but sequel bait, almost close to 40% of the movie is just name dropping and the writers make it out that the alliance all hate each other, and they let the humans basically fall and still decided to take on the horde solo...
%25 of the film involves a pointless love story between orc goodie war chief and his sequel plot object wife all for setting up the next series of films, then it switches to a love plot with goodie chief and halfling orc that was only there as a translation/eveyones love interest plot point. The entire movie is just a dragging weight of poorly cast and written characters with awful personalities, and characters that sould mesh together somehow don't due to only having one dimensional personalities and ridged acting doesn't help.
God I hate this movie's writing team.
Did they even explain why Garona killed Llane? It wasn't to bring peace between Orcs and Humans, it was because she was a fucking agent/pawn of the Shadow Council.
God damn it Duncan, you had one job.
I honestly still support a sequel
>Alliance of Lordaeron
>dwarves, elves, paladins fighting
>Zul'jin/trolls
>Khaz'Modan
>Seige of Qual'thalas/Death Knights
>Tomb of Sargers fight
>Seige of Lordaeron?
>Battle of Blackrock Spire
>Lothar/Ogrim fight
>Final battle at the Dark Portal
He made a decision to try and help his people, the only decision that might help. Garona has shown that she sympathises with the humans. Perhaps by having a leading role within the Orcs, she can persuade them of peace with the humans.
Maybe it is retarded, maybe it is unlikely to work. But what was the alternative? Let the big evil Orc kill him, gain even more credit amongst the Orcs and definitely go to war with the humans?
I would have liked them to develop the relationship a little more before this, but it's not that big of a deal.
>>70835582
That's not the case in this continuity, retard.
Was Medivh just saying random Warcraft names when doing his dark portal spell? I'm pretty sure I heard Zul'Drak in there.
>>70826198
BC was the first xpac you dingus. second was Wrath of the Lich King.
>>70831486
> implying orcs won't kill each other
> implying orcs weren't divided clan cucks
> implying gul'dan give them greater purpose and demise at the same time
> implying it isn't the burning legion brewing shit
> implying you can defeat humans and the light (pbuh)
die fel-orc scum
>>70834078
No some were ready to leave and then Gul'dan insta killed them so they fe back in line
>>70824815
Thats not why he told her to do it dumbass. He knew she would be respected and honored among the orcs if she did it and maybe she could sway them to make peace with the humans.
>>70824967
Being a pussy. You would be too in that situation.
>>70824893
is that kilrogg? it looks like he is missing his left eye and the hair looks kinda the same
>>70836532
It's fel'd up Blackhand
>>70836532
>>70836702
It's Kilrogg.
What's wrong with you faggots? You want a sequel, you want Arthas? You want Illidan? Fucking watch it you douchebags.
>>70824893
>The way the black guys arms flail before his neck is snapped makes it look like his neck is snapped as he's picked up
Not sure if bad acting or bad CGI
>>70837659
Rofl how autistic are you to even notice these things. You should probably consider hanging yourself in the basement you live in no offense
>>70824893
>got some great extras for the fight scenes
>do they have any experience for combat scenes?
>yeah they worked on nolan's Batman trilogy
>>70828902
>Lothar dies in Stormwind fight
>Cavil as Tyraluon becomes the lead actor for the human side
>>70824967
Orlando door fagget
>>70837643
Nope.
>>70824949
Just realized The King and Queen in Warcraft are Jesse and Tulip. Huh.
>>70825186
Only the Wildhammer dwarves had easy access to gryphon and opted not to fight, so that was probably one of the only gryphon in stormwind
>>70824815
The dialogue was utter bullshit, the scene transition was confusing but I'm basically one of those people that worship warcraft religiously and the thing that disappointed me the most was that this has nothing to do with the actual lore of the games, the backstories were fucked up so fucking badly, they got me mad. The effects were solid on the other hand, they were really something. Overall I must say it's far from a masterpiece but as a warcraft fanatic since childhood I enjoyed it, hell I enjoyed it more than fucking star wars, I really hope they make as sequel about the lore in warcraft 3 with fan favorite illidan and arthas.
>>70825186
> Why didn't Gandalf use the Eagles to get the ring to Mordor
>>70824893
That actually emulates an RTS pretty well.
>>70839489
units in a RTS dont stand around dancing, in fact they will often recklessly charge into battle fuck up your formations and die
so it doesnt really emulates RTS well, especially WC1 or 2 which had very simple game mechanics
>>70837719
Don't be edgy senpai
>>70839097
>most was that this has nothing to do with the actual lore of the games, t
>fucking Draenei
>Durotan and Orgrim being bros
>Curropted Medivh
>Llane dies from Garona
>Thrall/Go'el is found by Blackmoore
The differences are minor. The only thing I wished was in the movie was Orgrim taking over and the Horde burning Stormwind to the fucking ground.
>>70840315
>the differences are minor
You don't really believe this, right?
>>70827039
is this real
>>70840345
What was so fucking drastically different?
>>70840315
>The differences are minor.
>Medivh becoming corrupted, personally summoning the orcs, and becoming a giant demon before fucking DYING is a minor difference
In addition to how stupid it was for him to be evil for no reason, Medivh is in fucking Warcraft 2 and 3, he can't just die.
>>70840681
I don't know, maybe the fact that Doomhammer doesn't become the warchief that leads the Horde during the Second War, the fact that Gul'dan is the Fuhrer and not someone that controls everything from the shadows, the fact that Garona is in love with Lothar, the fact that Stormwind doesn't get razed.
Little details like the entire outcome of the game is supposedly based on being changed to have a happy ending.
It's as if in The Fellowship of the Ring they make Boromir survive instead of dying because you can't have a sad ending in a blockbuster or it won't sell.
>>70840807
>confirmed for not knowing the lore
Medivh was corrupted even before his birth. Everything you said happened in the lore. He was resurrected by his mothers magic and that's why he's in the later games.
>>70840807
He died in the first war. His mom just ressurrected him without Sargaras in him.
Do you even read the lore?
>you aren't allowed to use powers during mok'gora
>expecting an old man orc to defeat a young vibrant orc
>Thrall later uses shaman powers to defeat Garrosh
>elements gladly obey
>nobody says shit
>>70825041
It was not handled well, but it was so she would get the respect from killing a king not a warmonger like Blackhand
>>70840884
>>70840888
Well, alright, but it was super poorly explained and badly developed, so it just felt out of place.
So what was that black cube thing exactly? I don't remember that in the games. It's been like 15 years since I've played any Warcraft games, though.
>>70836134
He's thrusting at nothing
>>70837719
>how autistic are you be able to notice details
Are you sure you're not autistic anon?
>>70840827
>Doomhammer doesn't become the warchief that leads the Horde during the Second War,
First War just ended and Blackhand is dead and so is Durotan. Orgrim has the chance to come into power and he has. He'll probably make Gul'dan his bitch in ththe sequel
>the fact that Gul'dan is the Fuhrer and not someone that controls everything from the shadows,
Had to simplify it for normies. Blackhand being puppeteered by Gul'dan and the Shadow Council would probably be too much for them.
>the fact that Garona is in love with Lothar,
Less retarded than her getting knocked up by Medivh but it's still retarded
>the fact that Stormwind doesn't get razed.
Got me there.
>>70840895
To be fair Thrall and Garrosh were alone so no one can call Jesus out.
>>70840895
Pretty sure he could've cucked Durotan without powers
>>70839097
The WC lore has been changed and retconned to hell and back, trying to stick slavishly too it would be impossible, and if anything the movie could have benefited from a lot of shit being pushed out for later installments to focus in some actual characters worth giving a shit about, and I say that as someone who thought it was aight.
someone has a game code hes not planing to use? please post
>>70828491
in the novelization? the book was written a long time ago and i don't remember any love whatsoever between medivh and garona, in fact i don't think they interacted with eachother other than indirectly with khadgar
>>70828665
what do you get out of making this shit up
>>70837643
I don't care about any of that. Warcraft's lore sucks balls, it's the most clichéd shit imaginable.
>>70824893
I genuinely believe that guy is doing the human male animation for auto attacking and being hit.
>Based Duncan
>>70837810
I didn't know how much I wanted this until fucking now. But who should play his elf waifu?
>>70825581
Genes work differently in the Warcraft universe. It doesn't matter what race your parents are, you have a random chance of popping out any race because of magic.
>>70824967
>what do I do in this scene?
>just look busy we'll CGI in the rest
>alright dawg
>proceeds to do the jig or some shit
>>70825589
The lore is pretty good. Unfortunately it suffers from GoTism. It got overly dumbed down and simplified with a massive focus on flashy action to cater to absolute retards.
>>70841435
Everthing before Cata I'd consider good. But I can't get into it anymore because how mustache twirling evil Garrosh is(or was now I guess) and everything's being boiled down to Old Gods did it.
What was the point of the Ironforge scene?
It was totally out of place, achieved nothing and was just Lothar talking to some dwarves we had no introduction to just to set up he had a gun - which didn't need setting up since apparently the humans in the film charge into battle with a shield and a pistol for some fucking reason anyway.
And if someone was watching this who had no idea about the geography of Azeroth - they have no idea where these places are or what they are.
Pointless.
>being accepted by the orcs brings the opportunity for peaceful negotiations once Gul'dan is killed
>killing the king is enough honor to make the orcs respect her
idk f@m its not that complicated
With Ogrim gone and Durotan dead, It was a way to get a reasonable orc in the top ranks of the Horde, at least until Orc Jesus, Thrall grows up
>>70841809
>With Ogrim gone
>implying he isn't going to become Warcheif
>implying Orgrim Doomhammer isn't going to have the Horde make allies with Goblins and Trolls
>implying Orgrim Doomhammer and Zul'jin aren't going to slaughter Elves and Humans for the Horde
>>70841063
>First War just ended and Blackhand is dead and so is Durotan. Orgrim has the chance to come into power and he has. He'll probably make Gul'dan his bitch in ththe sequel
Doomhammer defects, in his last scene he abandons the Horde to search for Thrall.
>Had to simplify it for normies. Blackhand being puppeteered by Gul'dan and the Shadow Council would probably be too much for them.
That's a big fucking deal, the Horde loses in the Second War because Gul'dan together with the Stormreaver clan betrays them, if Gul'dan is the undisputed leader then he has no one to betray.
>>70841435
WC lore was never good. Ever. It was serviceable generic fantasy crap to hang a couple of games around, but nothing else.
>>70841895
Doomhammer makes his move when Gul'dan falls into his coma. Second movie Gul'dan will fuck up somehow and Orgrim will come in out of nowhere to take control.
>>70824815
you're actually just fucking retarded. Garona was capture by the humans, so the orcs wouldn't have believe she was betraying them. Lane marched on the dark portal with his men in the hopes that the frostwolf clan would help them and they would be able to shut the portal. he didn't know the frostwolf clan was dead, and he didn't know medivh was going to betray him. they got there, went with the plan and stopped the portal from opening, which was the main goal. he then stood guarding the portal with his men while the capture citizens were evacuated, he saved as many people as he could, and allowed the portal to fully close. when he knew he was going to die, garona told him that blackhand was coming to kill him for the honour of killing an enemy chief. he knew he was going to die anyways so he told her to kill him so that she would be the one he gains the honour, and if they were lucky she could use that honour to sway the horde into making peace with the alliance.
the thing that amazes me about retards who hate movies just for hating movies, is you always miss the actual point of what you're insulting, and you don't know any of the facts about the movie you're watching. A few of my "I can't enjoy anything" friends were ripping on things that happened in the movie, and they didn't even know the lore behind it.
>>70841973
That's just wishful thinking.
Gul'dan should've entered the coma when Medivh died, so it's probably they're just going to skip that.
And the last scene of Doomhammer seems pretty definitive, he takes the necklace of Draka and goes alone into the wild.
>>70842034
I thought he just ripped out Durotan's tooth and then it pans over to babyThrall.
>>70842065
I thought it was a necklace with a tooth on it but yeah you might be right.
I still think that he's going to seek Thrall to give his father's memento and take responsability for him.
>>70842102
Well I think he'd assume Draka's still alive so him finding her corpse might make him assume Go'el is dead to and maybe then he'll want to take over the Horde?
I'm grasping at straws but I just want Orgrim to become warchief and kill shit with Zul'jin
I don't really understand how this movie felt so padded out, yet nothing even happened and Medvin and generic main white dude weren't even real characters. I felt nothing during the twist that Medvin was the bad guy
>>70842179
>I felt nothing during the twist that Medvin was the bad guy
I know what you mean man, I wasn't surprised at all when I saw Boromir die.
>>70829193
YOU
JUST
KNOW
>>70831732
>more people who don't know who owns most of legendary pictures
Keeps spouting your memes sonny boy.
>>70842913
It's irrelevant, Legendary Pictures is set on America, just because it's owned by a Chinese conglomerate doesn't change anything finances wise.
>>70841110
The elements themselves call him out on it they are pissed he used them to exact petty vengeance so they no longer answer his call
>>70841596
No it's the void lords now they are above the old gods and Titans
>>70843206
Do you honestly expect that to last?
Elements weren't answering him in Sundering, becomes literal Green Jesus.
Elements aren't answering him now, just wait for him to do some OP bullshit to help Illidan out against the Legion in 6.somehting
>>70843250
Of course he will just seranade outside their window till they forgive him
>>70843381
>>70843250
>>70843235
>yfw elements help him out because it's to protect his little orc baby
>>70840895
they do, though, in the new expansion the elements tell him to fuck off for using them to cheat and you get his hammer if you're a shaman
>>70843561
Doomhammer should be a fucking warrior weapon god damn it.
>>70843618
It's more famous as a shaman weapon now
>>70843659
>Orgrim's family legacy isn't even associated with him now
>no Hellscream left alive to use Gorehowl
Why is being an orc heirloom weapon suffering?
>>70825442
>well nobody knows anymore.
she's half human and medivh's daughter
>>70824967
Dancing battling the orc to the right in the background.
>>70841110
Thrall is Moses, not Jesus.
>>70843915
If Garrosh actually got someone from the Iron Horde to kill Thrall he would have made a fine Judas.