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What do you guys think about this segment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS8cm3kmyWs
>>70776481
bump
>>70776481
YUP. I think these guys always handle this sort of events tastefully, and with utmost grace, but others will say they're a bunch of faggots and hacks and faggot enabler baby killers or whatever...
Daily show and Colbert Report do well to pay respect without it seeming forced and robotic.
>>70776481
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>>70776641
lol fuck you
>>70776481
leftist political tripe
>>70776481
What's his name again?
>>70776481
He did the best thing he could have done.
Going fucking apeshit over terrorism enables them
>>70776982
john "come on" oliver
That was handled very tastefully and completely on point.
I dread the Islamic damage control that's coming though.
>>70776481
That's probably the best thing he's done in quite a while.
Do people really feel sorry about this tragedy, or is it just an act?
This is like the 3rd news presenter I've seen that got choked up
>>70777781
Actors.
I think the whole Jon Stewart crying after September 11th thing became symbolic and so now they all try to do it "because they care so much"
These people are no more empathic than you or I. Probably less considering they're in showbusiness and their routines are to put on a facade.
It's all about appearances.
>>70778183
>>70777781
The edge is real.
>>70777781
not everybody is edgy nihilist jaded cynical deviantart character come to life like you
>>70777591
The funny thing is that the shooter was a child of privilege whose father ran for President of Afghanistan.
Do you think the shooter got Bacha Bazi'd in the first place?
>>70778304
>>70778339
>they fell for the sincerity meme
>>70776481
Nice try faggot. Not giving you views to tell me the current year, I have a calendar for that.
>>70778304
Yeah did you choke up? How about your gf or family?
Kek weak b8
>doesn't mention the shooter was Muslim
>>70778304
I wouldn't call it edge. Just cynicism, which in right doses isn't unhealthy.
The news should definitely be reported, but in an image-based society where people's careers are sustained by public support, choking up, or displaying exaggerated concern for an event such as the one occurred today, it shouldn't be thought of as 'edgy' to wonder if certain public personas aren't just playing up their role for effect.
I'm neither here nor there with it. Just adding my two pennies. Either way it's an unfortunate and senseless loss of life.
That's it John, don't mention the elephant in the road
>That terrorist dipshit is vastly outnumbered
1.6 billion Muslims is more than a couple dozen guys standing in line.
>>70778304
>>70778339
Things I thought about I today:
>stuff I have to do
>stuff I have to do tomorrow
>my family
>what am I going to eat?
>etc.
Things I didn't think about today:
>What was the last thing to go through some homo's mind (besides the bullet)?
They're TV people. They don't actually give a shit about us regular folk. They just act like they care to fit in.
>>70778505
>elephant in the road
I hate autocorrect tbqh senpai
>>70778477
Terrorist attacks aren't representative of Islam or Muslims
IT'S 2016
>>70778395
>>70778423
>>70778510
>haha guys look at me and how smart I am, i'm super cynical and depressed and nihilistic all the time so that makes me superior. yeah life is just one big charade you wouldn't understand it, just end it all hahahahah
>>70778502
I think it's a combo of both. They probably do care a bit, but most comedians are informally obligated to talk about it whether they want to or not.
>>70777781
No one cares about 50 dead floridians, but no wants to look homophobic.
>>70778742
Right, and I don't think that's anyone's fault--just a symptom as part of an overarching sickness permeating our culture. Celebrities and public figures of all sorts have to weigh in on topic issues whether they like to or not, and whereas some are probably sincere, others likely feel awkward, and others may appear opportunistic, we (the public) inevitably start to develop a suspicion of motivations.
It's the odd little kink in the slick cog, I guess.
>>70778638
religion literally created by a 5th century terrorist
>not representative
holy fuck anon
>>70778742
Such terrible bait
>>70779067
Fuck off, retard.
>>70776481
I'm not giving that muppet a click, but when even Bernie is called for destruction of Islam, maybe its time to stop being a leftard
>>70777781
I get legit mad when I think about people being hunted down like animals by some piece of shit mussie
sure john oliver is chomping at the bit to talk about gun control though
>>70779079
Just tell me how much you cried today and I won't say it's bait
is anyone surprised when they see another us mass murder anymore
they couldnt even get any laws passed after another school shooting
>>70779196
Fuck off, retard.
>>70779246
are you crying at this very moment then?
>>70779124
"leftards" from Christopher Hitchens to just about every feminist have been calling for addressal of Islam for over a decade.
The characterization of "libtards" on 4chan probably makes you feel good, but just because some loud people are apologizing for Islam and calling themselves liberal doesn't actually mean all liberals are on board with that.
>>70777584
i would come on him, if u catch my drift
>>70779246
So you didn't cry. But John Oliver crying is authentic and not complete horseshit muh feels
>>70776481
> he's just a comedian!
>>70779268
Fuck off, retard.
>>70779301
>it's just the loud minority guys, trust me
>>70776481
Can someone just give me a quick recap of what he says?
If it's
>muh religion of peace
>muh gun control
I'm not interested
>>70776481
This guy is no longer relevant in 2016. Le liberal tv funnyman is a dead meme from the 00's.
>>70779364
>muhtwo thousand and sixteen
What exactly is wrong with how he handled this?
>>70776481
>gay latino nightclub represents the best of America
mention that it was a GAY club, don't mention it was a MUSLIM
>>70778304
>>70778339
30 people got blown up by a car-bomb in Bagdad yesterday. Including women and children.
How many tears are you shedding right now?
None? I guess you're an edgelord.
>>70778638
Then why did he mention that the victims were faggots?
>>70779487
Just another edgy manchild on 4chan. Nothing new. No other response is needed.
Fuck off, retard.
>there are people here who legitimately support ISIS now
This place is killing me inside
>>70779588
You've been BTFO.
You did get five Yous with one post though, call it a win
>>70779588
>no response
>get mad instead
Well, thanks for conceding your loss, I guess.
>>70779409
Nothing. I doubt a lot of the responses here watched the video. Insult first, watch the video after, contemplate in silence later.
This is the /tv/ way.
>>70779597
Liberals are pretty scary.
So long as it's anti-white, anti-male or anti-Christian, they will support it.
>>70776481
a buch of faggots ded, what's the lost? it's not like gay fags can increase our population count to help out the aging population problems.
>>70779487
since I'm not an american I heard about that on the news and was glad I live in the west
>>70779641
>>70779660
You're worth less than dirt.
>>70776481
Surprisingly tasteful and good.
>>70779690
Based Bens cartoons don't even need edits any longer
>>70779487
lmao no one gives a fuck about sandniggers
even a western fag is worth more than a disgusting eastern sandnigger
>>70776481
It's concerning that a comedy show feels the need to editorialize
Because they know it's where most young idiots turn for current events
>>70778638
Muhammad, the ultimate representative of Islam, would be classified as a war criminal, a terrorist, and would be tried for genocide, prejudicial hatred, bigotry, and crimes against humanity (slavery, beheading, torturing, stealing / looting, massacring innocents, warmongering, etc.)
Please educate yourself before you spout off how Islam is some kind of peaceful brotherhood or whatever fairytale reality you live in. The religion is founded on bloodshed, violence and oppression of those who opposed Muhammad and refused to convert to his cult. Is it founded on the massacre of innocents and the destruction of opposing religions ideologies. The end goal of Islam, as outlined by Muhammad himself, is to conquer the entire world, and spread its ideology in order to wipe out all others. It has no desire to peacefully co-exist.
>>70779898
>it's just 'satire,' bro
>>70778638
Liberals everyone.
Go ahead and scroll down this list, won't you. Don't worry, it might take quite some time, but I think it speaks volumes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism#Examples_of_organizations_and_acts
>>70779301
Christopher Hitchens was far from a traditional leftist, and was called an Islamophobe more than once. And that was before our current era where cucking for Muslims went into the fucking stratosphere.
The point is, there are MASSIVE social pressures put in place by certain segments of the population that keeps people from connecting these kinds of events to Islam, when they'll happily call out 'white privilege' or 'patriarchy' or Christian fundamentalists.
>>70779732
He's not suppprting ISIS. He's saying dead degenerates are not a major loss to the nation.
>>70777459
nah
not killing them enables them
letting them come into our country no questions asked enables them
not rooting out their cancerous religion for the plague on the world that is enables them
bloodbank turnouts aren't going to make up for the damage our pussified, blind, stupidly PC culture enables. And they know it. And they're laughing about it.
>>70777459
>Going fucking apeshit over terrorism enables them
Flooding the country with Muslim fundamentalists is what "enables" them.
>>70776481
>making a LE EPIC SERIOUS broadcast
I thought this was a funny comedy-show that wasn't meant to be taken seriously?
if you kill your enemies, they win
>>70779381
lmao
he's the only relevant talkshow host left you spaz
>>70780761
>le 2015 drumph man
>relevant
lmao
>>70776481
So am I supposed to take this seriously now or is it still just "satire"? I can't keep up with libtard doublespeak.
>>70780761
Protip: there are none left.
>>70776641
You suck dick ya?
>>70780489
i don't think it is how it works in my video game
which i remind you is a very accurate depiction of real life
>>70776481
I hate John Oliver but I can admit he handled this pretty well, but
>dipshit terrorist
Something sounds off with this, like he's not clever enough to articulate what he wants to say better. It's like calling they guy a "wanker terrorist" or "plonker terrorist".
>>70779487
>its a 'youre a selective sympathiser' episode
die liberal scum
>>70780761
>Oliver
>relevant
To millennials, maybe.
>>70776481
Hosts always do a good job when it comes to these type of things.
>>70779307
What did he mean by this?
>>70781721
What does 'millennial' even mean at this point beyond 'somebody I don't like'?
>>70776481
I got a little choked up when he started to get the most heart-felt
>>70780061
you're right, we should kill all white people so they can't become school or theater shooters
>>70781777
I find it hard to believe people who post here aren't millenials. They would have to be 36+
>>70776481
>pretending he cared about terrorist attacks in Paris
are there still people who don't realize this guy is just a troll?
>>70777459
>Going fucking apeshit over terrorism enables them
also doing nothing enables them. Inviting them in enables them.
The only thing that really stops them is being armed. That's why Garland didnt make national headlines last year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Culwell_Center_attack
>Texas town has a Draw mohammed contest for keks
>van full of ISIS faggots shows up armed to the teeth with AKs and other decades old russian hardware
>van door opens
>ALLAHU ACKBAR
>They dont make it 3 feet before some meter maid with a 9mm strapped to his ankle blows all four of their skulls open with zero American casualties.
that's why they only attack gun-free zones and not based Texas small towns.
>>70781896
You post here. How old are you?
>>70782086
dont judge27
>>70779148
>muh gun control
Yeah gun control did so much to prevent what happened in Paris didn't it.
>>70779301
>just about every feminist
Name three.
>>70781690
It's detracting from the seriousness of it, when some politician says something dumb in a speech you call them a dipshit, when some nutter shoots 50 people it calls for something a bit stronger. But he had to lower the tone like that because it is after all a comedy show, gotta keep the people entertained even when talking about horrific crimes.
>>70781768
I would ejaculate semen on his nerdy geek face while he says in his quaint brit accent, OI MATE ITS 2016, GIVE US A CREAM PIE GUVNA!
>>70782084
>Texas town has a Draw mohammed contest for keks
Considering how much of Texan culture I hate, I take everything back just for this gem of a find. But why the fuck did they have that contest in the first place lol? I thought the french satirical journalist would've killed all cheeky desire. This made my day
>>70781690
A-are you hinting that the adjective was Oliver trying to say 'muslim' without actually saying it? He would never do that, would he?
>>70778638
and nutcases with guns aren't representative of gun owners, doesn't stop the ban all guns talk. If we can't blame all muslims for a terrorist attack, we can't blame all guns for one either
>>70783712
But if you ban guns you'll never, ever have any gun violence ever again. Just look at how well it works in France & Belgium.
>>70783449
geet wilder, a dutch ultra nationalist organized it and put it in texas for some reason
Wait, am I the only one who thinks his response is the epitome of cuck leftist views?
>a gay club is the best thing about America!
>this bad man is alone, and we are many!
>let's not give him attention, let's focus on happier things!
I don't get you, guys.
>>70778638
sure they are
if islam didn't exist world wouldn't be in this deep shit. I fucking hate those shitheads. I fully understand that 99% of them are normal people who just try to get by but what the fuck are you going to do about this shit other than kick them all the fuck out of your country? I'm a man of practicality. As it stands right now the only way to make my country feel safe again is not have any muslims in it. Don't let the door hit you on your way out
>>70783887
I used to consider myself a liberal, my views haven't changed, 10 years later, I'm a disgusting racist nazi homophone for not jumping off the cliff into insanity with the rest of them.
>>70778638
Wait, it kinda is, it doesn't mean that it represents every Muslim, but obviously they were fueled by extremest ideology.
Saying so isn't hate speech, just the truth.
>>70779148
>Trapp in bathroom
This could mean two different things, especially considering it was a gay nightclub...
I know it sounds dickish, not trying to be edgy, but I really don't feel that bad about the death because they were fags.
I mean, I'd be kinda upset or angry if he hit a shopping mall or school and normal ppl died.
I'm not saying fags should die or some shit, I really didn't care.
>>70784220
pretty immature way to look at it, anon
they're still people, gay or not. they had lives, they were just out one fucking night and got shot up for having fun
>>70776481
>hurr muh poor lil fags
>>70784288
I know, I'm not proud, but I can't help it.
It's the truth, the kind of truth you can't say out loud irl.
>>70784330
well, i wont shit on you for having a different opinion, but dang.
>>70784288
>night club
fucking normie faggots got what they deserved
>>70783887
>a gay club is the best thing about America!
>being this stupid
it's about what that represents, he doesn't want you to suck 3 dicks in a row.
he means that you're free to do so if you so desire and freedom is good.
>>70783887
it's actually kind of conservative. i'm sure you agree that the cuck leftist views would be trying to defend islam but john oliver mentions nothing of the sort and buys directly into the 'terrorist' narrative
>let's not give him attention, let's focus on happier things!
i'm not sure how you got this
>>70784364
You should shit on me, I literally consider gays to be worth less then non gays, but then we don't tear up for the Turks or Iraqis who got bombed last week, so there's that I guess...
Pretty sad desu
>>70784031
if the whole world was muslim the world wouldn't be in this shit either lol
>>70784288
>they're still people
Not really, profligate scum only bring us down as a whole.
>>70784443
>Muslims don't kill other Muslims
>>70784097
>they were fueled by extremest ideology.
homophobia?
>>70784398
>he doesn't want you to suck 3 dicks in a row.
h-he doesn't?
>>70784427
>i'm bathroom
Is that gay slang for something?
>>70784427
he should have been home and in bed by 10pm
>>70784443
retarded burger detected, mudslimes have been killing each other literally right after Muhammad died, you dumb ignorant motherfucker
I'm surprised he didn't come out and say NOT ALL MUSLIMS!
>>70784458
anon pls
>>70784427
>Dr. Mateen, I'm Bathroom
>>70784458
so do people who murder others
>>70784467
it's pretty obvious i'm just going to counter your argument with the reverse and suggest that non-muslims also kill non-muslims so i'm not sure why you bothered
>>70784515
He shouldn't even have to say that you racist!!
>>70784503
no i'm not american
>>70784543
>>70784543
Religion of Peace, anon, PBUH
>>70784543
>so do people who murder others
In this case I'd call it 2 birds with 1 stone.
>>70784475
I think he was getting laid or something, clearly someone who was texting while being distracted and we misunderstood the "He's coming."
It's an unfortunate event but that's a pretty impressive way to die
>>70784474
in current year you're free to suck as many dicks as you want and that's the most American thing you can do. the founding fathers would be proud.
>>70784566
i'm not sure why
>>70784561
yer dumb as one tho
>>70784031
>if islam didn't exist world wouldn't be in this deep shit
I have to assume you're young and this is your first proper exposure to extremism
>>70780061
>letting them come into our country no questions asked enables them
He was born in New York and his parents arent extremists
>>70784594
convince me. respond to my point
>>70784588
Founding fathers were slave owning hetero-normative patriarchal racists tho.
>>70784625
what point, you have no point, sport
>>70780812
Have you watched any of his segments cunt?
>>70784590
Shitskin muslim terrorist dies killing subversive elements of society.
>>70784620
yer right all these attacks being made by Muslims are all unfortunate coincidence, we should ban guns first.
>"It's hard to even know what to do?"
Why don't you start fucking dealing with Islam?
>>70784635
nothing says "I want to suck 3 dicks on a row" more than owning black men.
>>70784676
the logical inconsistencies of your point aside, we were actually talking about gays not muslims
>>70784706
Nice b8
>>70784719
ok
>>70784288
>they're still people, gay or not
>>70780061
nah man if you kill your enemies they win
>>70784697
well, it was mostly about raping the women, but I guess a few prolly indulged in a little deep throating too,
>>70777459
>Going fucking apeshit over terrorism enables them
If we ignore the 1200 years or so of constant islamic conquest and warfare then sure.
>>70784752
slaves are property, you can't rape property
>>70784682
Simmer down there sparky, he meant in terms of how to go about discussing it without pissing off his viewers while refraining from pandering to them more excessively than normal
>>70784776
they lived in peace and harmony until evil white man colonized and raped them, EDUCATE YOURSELVES
>>70784777
wasted trips, baka
you deserve a (You) at least for the get
>>70784801
just as bad with your strawman baiting, shut the fuck up
Leftism is a mental disease
>>70784776
1200 years ago they didn't have mass media. 'terrorism' these days is used in a specific context related to the media, the nation-state, liberal capitalism, even though you may argue that 'terror' has existed in warfare -- which in itself is not limited to islam -- at least since the middle ages.
>>70784833
At least now you understand what intellectuals think when they read religious people spouting their bullshit.
>>70784833
>if you anger Muslims they will attack and kill you
>so be nice to them at all times
>it's yer fault for getting shot
So much victim blaming.
john oliver isn't even that much of a leftist and the points he makes, even though some of the examples he uses only highlights 'extremes' or 'possibilities', are still at least consistent. his fan base of course may interpret his show however they want, to construct some liberal agenda that isn't exactly drawn from textual evidence, just as the 4chan 'right' interpret his show to be everything wrong with liberalism. neither side knows how to watch a tv show, which is embarrassing
>>70784833
>"It was probably a homegrown white Christian extremist"
>"If you call any group out as a whole, you are a part of the problem"
John Oliver is a cuck enabler of moronic liberal retardism. Of course he's going to sit there stammering like he's so shook up.
And he would equate gay latin night as his ideal future for america. Many would.
I await the aids contanimation of first responders and civilians in the coming weeks.
>>70783887
Libs are gonna try to bury this as fast as possiible
>>70784528
>If I came would you die?
>>70784874
Terrorism is just a tactic in asymmetrical warfare, dingus.
Islamic terrorism is real and has been growing exponentially.
But go on, blame white people for that too, they gays were Americans so it was just justified revenge for Irag, right?
>>70785052
none of what you said contradicts anything i've said
>But go on, blame white people for that too, they gays were Americans so it was just justified revenge for Irag, right?
what the hell are you talking about? where did i blame white people for anything?
>>70785052
It all begin with Nixon's support for Israel, so you can blame that one on him too.
>>70784833
>both culture and religion treats homosexuals worse than what christianity has ever done
>"IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT"
Why are you bashing Islam when most of you would be cheering the death 50 gays anyway??
>>70785158
Fuck off Reddit
>>70779875
>Americucks
>better than anyone else
>>70785158
i cheer when anyone dies, it's not like you humans don't deserve it
>>70785192
>I laugh at you puny mortals.
>>70785192
everyone dies anyway
>>70776481
Its shit. He says nothing and avoid grabbing the bull by the horns.
>what can we do? :(
Watch the siege and see how Bruce Willis was so right in it.
>>70779900
Don't forget that he's a paedophile who molested a 6 year old girl.
>>70785246
that's a very sociopathic thing to say
I think that segment was well done, 4chan hates him but it was very well done.
>>70785252
she was 7.
And he had other wives, so he was ALSO a paedo, not just one.
>>70785260
What was well done about it?
>>70785259
But it's true, in the most objective sense, we all die.
the very fact we try to ignore this in daily life and pretend we all will live to 120 is the delusion.
>>70782084
law enforcement killed them. you're full of shit you fucking fag. gun carrying citizens never stop anything.
>Shortly after the attackers pulled up and opened fire, both were shot and wounded by a police officer, (wrongly accredited with the kills at first[5]), and eventually killed by four members of the SWAT team.
>it's not islam!
>it's not all muslims!
>it's just thousands of isolated cases!
>most victims are muslims themselves!
>we are no better than them if we deny refugees access!
When will the Dragon that is the Western world awake and breath a firestorm? How much more time must pass and how many more Westerners must die?
>>70785298
Lol PDF fuck off as if that makes a difference.
>>70785260
Oliver is terrible and cringey as fuck, and always has been since his shitty bits in Daily Show.
His actual stand up isn't so bad though.
>>70785320
its not about that you fedora tipper. its quite counterproductive to be brooding about our own mortality and death every single day, isnt it?
>>70783765
the murder rates in those countries per capita are infinitesimal compared to the usa. you have no point.
>>70785400
It makes me look so much deeper during my poetry recitals tho.
>>70785413
That appears to be changing, wouldn't you say? Bataclan certainly made Paris a much more dangerous city to live in statistically.
>>70776481
>What do you guys think about this segment?
It's fine. Obviously he has a platform and is expected to make some kind of a statement about it considering the nature of his show and I think the statement he made was fine, he didn't push any agenda, he didn't try and make it all about him, and he showed the right about of distance for someone who obviously isn't American.
Getting really tired of all the horseshit every time one of these things happens. Yeah obviously it was a radical muslim who did it. Brain dead liberals can't seem to wrap their mind around the fact that the "peaceful" parts of Islam from the middle east start at Westboro Batpist Church levels of retarded dogma, and the truly extreme segments (which is more than 1% thanks to that part of the world being filled with theocratic dictatorship shitholes that use religion as free martial law enforcement) are just breathtakingly dangerous and as technology improves it will allow them to get their influence out of their 3rd world sandbox and into the west more and more easily.
If Christianity was enabled by shitty theocratic shitholes, populations with zero education and no upward mobility and a constant simmering hatred for everything not-Christian it would probably look just as bad, but that isn't the reality we live in, the two couldn't be more different.
Anyway for the retards on the right this lunatic walked into a gun store a week prior to the incident bough everything that he needed without any hassle and was pretty easily allowed to just murder dozens of people. There was even a guy in the club with a gun that returned fire with no real effect. On top of that he isn't a sneaky muslim invader, just a radicalized native so Trump's walls wouldn't have prevented this.
We need smarter solutions and all I ever hear is the same stupid shit being parroted over and over again when really I think we all know none of it is going to help.
>>70785400
Considering your natural end depressing is more unhealthy, imo.
No need to wear black and be emo about it, just accept it and appreciate what you have all the more.
>>70785341
>gun carrying citizens never stop anything.
Factually incorrect.
It actually happens all the fucking time. You wouldn't know this, because the Liberal media doesn't want that message promoted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_High_School_shooting
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=1446
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Middle_School_dance_shooting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_Square_shooting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Colorado_YWAM_and_New_Life_shootings
http://www.ammoland.com/2009/07/gun-owner-saves-lives-in-the-richmond-va-golden-market-shooting/#axzz33YOmUBo7
http://www.wktv.com/news/crime-reports/95032689.html
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/sanantonio.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clackamas_Town_Center_shooting
http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/1996/the-chronicle,-muskegon,-mi,-82395.aspx?s=%22%27All+In!%27%22&st=&ps=
http://www.ktxs.com/news/RV-PARK-KILLINGS-Witness-shooter-recounts-shootout-with-gunman-who-killed-two-in-Early/15933066
>>70785444
no because those terrorist attacks, even if they had multiple per year, wouldn't make up for the thousands of non-terrorist shooting deaths that happen every year in the us. the majority are domestic cases or niggers all using guns manufactured in the us
>>70785413
Nigs and cholos shooting each other over drugs is the primary reason for that.
Detracting black males between the ages of 14 and 30, America has a gun-crime rate roughly similar to that of fucking Switzerland.
>>70785473
>its a conspiracy!
>>70785458
+rep
>>70785538
reddit, pls
All he wrote is NOT ALL MUSLIMS but using more sentences.
>>70783887
>let's not give him attention, let's focus on happier things!
No shit they're saying this. Leftists want to bury this fucking deep before people start to commit it to memory.
A member of the Religion of Peace, who was also a registered Democrat voter AND the son of a pair of migrants AND worked for a company that was caught several times aiding illegal immigrants hop the border into the United States, just committed the deadliest shooting-spree AND the deadliest "hate crime" in American History.
They want to distract people, or blame it on something else, as quick as fucking [possible.
Hence why the media is shifting focus onto guns, and onto various people who did not respond "correctly" to the tragedy, i.e. constant clickbait about how Trump's tweets were "inappropriate".
>>70785562
good job on the reading comprehension, fucking words are complicated n' shit.
i wonder what it would actually take before people stop using the NOT ALL MUSLIMS rhetoric. they are essentially apoligising to the terorrists, "sorry, it's our fault you are the way you are!"
"no, i'm actually doing this in the name of Allah and ISIS."
"no, you are doing it because we made you this way! it's not your fault!"
>>70785473
half of these end in suicide or cops killing the perp. the only few that are actually stopped by citizens are schools. I guess now we know that the best thing we can do is install security guards in schools.
>>70785492
11,000 people are killed with a gun every year in America. In France a baseline number per year in the whole country is 2,000. There are upwards of 350 million people in America, and only 66 million in France. If Bataclan starts happening multiple times a year you will be climbing the ladder very quickly.
>>70784427
>last words were made texting from the filthy bathroom of a gay sex hub
How embarrassing.
>>70784470
>not liking gay people is now it's own distinct ideology
From the same retards who brought you "Atheism is a religion".
>>70785496
>don't count the poorest half of the country and you have less crime!
wow thanks Einstein somebody should get you a direct line to the fucking president with policy wisdom that insightful
>>70785624
Maybe just accept the fact Americans love to shoot each other, be it for racial, emotional, financial or religious reasons.
And we are PERFECTLY FINE with it.
>>70785617
It isn't that they honestly believe that muslims are peaceful and great, it's a knee-jerk reaction to the other side that thinks that the vast majority of muslims are dangerous and need to be given special treatment or outright banned. When you get people stupid enough they don't actually consider the issues it's just red vs. blue bullshit. So every time you have someone say that all muslims need to be banned the idiots in the other camp will all rally around muslims that much harder even if doing so is contradictory to the rest of their ideology (like supporting gays that muslims despise)
>>70783765
citizens can buy guns freely in the usa and terrorists are never stopped by citizens here. it doesn't really matter if the population is armed or not, surprise attacks are effective
>>70784833
They let people this fucking stupid into the army? I wouldn't trust this shitpacker with a gun.
>>70784833
>it doesn't matter what the shooters background was but they were probably a white christian extremist
It really is.
>>70785562
that's not what he said at all you fucking dummy
>>70784833
>in the army
Who wants to place bets on how likely this guy will get shot in the head by one of the extra tolerant Muslims coming at him with AK's?
>>70784928
>john oliver isn't even that much of a leftist
Holy shit, nigger, have you seen some of the stuff he says?
>>70785706
No man you don't understand, true americans that accept jesus into their hearts and never fap to traps online have special sensing capabilities that allow them to detect terrorists and using their custom-ordered AR-15 with the limited edition camo pack they can eliminate that terrorist before he can hurt anyone and they will be given their own float in the next parade through town and a hero's medal for valor.
>>70776481
Has /tv/ always been this cucked full of ledditors? Who cares about John Oliver these days?
Current Year man lost all credibility when (just before the Paris Massacre) he called people moronic, bigoted fearmongers for stating that Islamic extremists entering Europe as 'refugees' could pose a threat to human life.
>>70776481
I thought it was moving.
Good on him.
>>70785622
>half of these end in suicide or cops killing the perp.
Wrong. Learn to read.
>>70785769
I wish that was a strawma
>>70785704
>vast majority of muslims are dangerous and need to be given special treatment or outright banned.
absolutely true
very dangerous
>>70785413
I'm just pointing out how ridiculous it is to be blabbering about gun control after a terrorist attack. Not only do terrorists not obey the law they are capable of going to extraordinary lengths to commit their attacks, the status of the local gun laws could not be less relevant as the attacks in Europe show. France and Belgium have much stricter gun laws then America and yet their terrorists are just as well armed.
>>70782084
You have a future in journalism. You post an article that you didn't even read - or perhaps you did and assumed we wouldn't.
>it was only two guys, not four.
>they shot dozens of rounds at a police cat and wounded a security guard
>they were shot and wounded by a police officer before later being killed by SWAT
What is this non-sense about a meter-maid? What is your entire point anyway? That cops should have guns and use them if they get shot at? I think most rational people are okay with that.
>>70785660
>don't count the poorest half of the country and you have less crime!
Oh boy, the "poverty forces people to go our and rape women at knife-point" meme. I love this one.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/679195/Islamic-state-terror-responsibility-Orlando-nightclub-pulse-shooting
>Omar Mateen swore allegiance to ISIS in 911 call
this is NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM
HE DOESNT REPRESENT MUSLIMS
>>70785704
>It's all the fault of le evil racists!
What an enlightening viewpoint.
>>70785833
You're not completely wrong
>>70785706
Several would-be terrorists have been blown the fuck away by armed citizens and off-duty police-officers.
You're literally lying to yourself and everyone around you.
>>70785508
Nice non-argument.
>>70785877
Just don't fall into the trap of thinking that being retarded and reactionary is a fault only present in one political ideology.
>>70784833
>leftism is a mental disease
Yes, because right wingers dindu nuffin!
>>70785867
So he was just a trend whore?
That's even worse.
>>70785706
see
>>70785837
Gun control could not have less relevancy to terrorism. If a terrorist isn't willing to go to the bother of buying an illegal firearm off the black market they're not much of a terrorist are they? Hardly committed to the cause.
>>70785769
>being this fucking salty
Potential victims being armed is one of the ONLY things that deters terrorism.
Stay mad, lefty.
>>70779148
I can't get over how illiterate this guy was.
And calling his MOMMY
>>70785947
well he was prolly just like you autist except for the cocksucking part
>>70785919
>http://www.4chan.org
The internet's most rigorous debate hall where true arguments are made, minds are changed, people are enlightened and truths are revealed, only facts, no opinions, and no one ever lies ever.
>>70785660
>the poorest half of the country
There are far more whites below the poverty-line than blacks, retard.
>>70785508
>the media isn't biased
So you're saying sources like Fox News ARE totally fair & balanced, huh?
>>70785926
In this situation and most others they literally haven't, so yes.
>>70785944
I own a gun for self defense, I just don't care for these idiots that have all the rambo movies on repeat, convince themselves that they are action heroes and then use their child-like delusions to vote on policies that effect those of us living in the real world. I don't have any patience for stupid children and their fantasies even if on some level I agree with them about the right to own a gun.
>>70786007
the Jews let them tell the truth just for variety sake, it's to muddy the waters ;^)
On the right
>Islamic terrorist committs mass shooting
>Hurr durr he represents all muslims.
Neglects the islamic reformist movement, Majid Nawaz and Waleed Aly.
Meanwhile on the left
>White kid committs mass shooting
>Hurr durr he represents all whites.
Yeah sure lads, let's follow our fantatical and political bias and blame the representation of ONE culture/ race and just pin it on him.
I'm not disputing that horrible acts have been done in the name of Islam, nor do I dispute horrible crimes committed by whites.
But if you generalise you are no better than the liberals you hate.
You guys are fucking pathetic, grow up.
>>70786050
>on some level
Glad you're allowing us to keep our gun, that was very kind of you, I'll remember to let one live during my next rampage in honor of your generosity.
It's Current Year! C'mon white christians! You can't further this kind of blanket hatred in current year!
>>70786050
Why do you think shooters target schools and other places that don't have guns? you don't need to be rambo to stop a shooter because in all likelihood the shooter is just as much not rambo as you.
>>70786007
That dude's only reasoning as to why it is that people aren't aware that legal gun owners prevent disasters on a daily basis is because of media censorship of that specific topic which implies some kind of illuminati level collusion likely involving jews and space reptiles. I just implied that it probably isn't that.
>>70786077
>Neglects the islamic reformist movement, Majid Nawaz and Waleed Aly.
The what now? It's hard to not to neglect something that nobody has ever heard of.
>>70786077
>Neglects the islamic reformist movement
I think it's the Islamic community that neglects them, not the right
>>70786077
>everyone's stupid but me
>>70786077
Kill yourself Sargon you faggot
>>70786077
>someone commits rape
>ALL MEN MUST ANSWER FOR THIS HORRIBLE CRIME AND TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN
>islamist shoots people for whatever reason
>LIKE OH MY GOD HE DOESN'T REPRESENT THE ENTIRE MUSLIM POPULATION IT'S JUST ONE ROTTEN EGG STOP BEING SO ISLAMOPHOBIC
It works both ways. If you legitimize the stigmatization of one group, you don't get to deny that another group.
>>70786077
"White" is not an ideology. You don't choose to be white. There are white people of every religion and hundreds of different cultures.
Islam is an ideology, you choose to be a muslim. There are two types of muslims and both sides want to genocide the other one.
They should stick to comedy.
>expressing yourself by sucking other men's assholes is okay and very american
>expressing yourself by removing gays is not okay though
It's time to end this hipocrisy! Why is he oppressing the poor terrorist? Aren't equality and tolerance core values anymore??? It's like another shoah.
>>70786210
>you choose to be a muslim
Nah, your born into it, and it's a death penalty to try to get out.
Unless you mean white cucks, yer all stupid as fuck anyway.
How many of those 50 gays do you think support the mass importation of muslims to western countries?
You reap what you sow.
>>70786132
>>70786145
Because the media doesn't cover it as much. "Liberals"If you can truly call them thatcall them islamophobic, or don't grant them a voice because they want to keep up their blue pilled narrative.
Majid Nawaz was the man who coined the term regressive left, and Muhammed Ali was part of the Liberal Muslim movement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Muslim_movements
http://muslimreformmovement.org/
You know that Islam is not a religion of peace as the regressive left will have you believe, when some of its greatest critics are Muslims themselves.
>>70786202
>>70786210
>there are white people of every religion and hundreds of different cultures.
>doesn't seem to getting the message that generilising is just idiotic.
Lad that was point I was making with that post, you're on the right track.
>>70786280
The media cover's it but the fact is mainstream islam rejects their movement. Islam has to change itself to be compatible with modern society, it can't be changed by the outside.
>>70786311
Nah, I agree with that point. It's just that through hypocrisy like that one you invite others to be a cunt right back at you.
>>70783481
Is "dipshit" the new code word for Muslims now? I can get behind this.
>>70786311
It's not generalizing if you talk about one culture (and its effects) specifically. "White" is too general, "Muslim" is not.
If you want to criticize the Amish for something that the Amish specifically do, something that is related to Amish religion/ideology, then go right ahead. That is perfectly justified. Similarly with Islam.
>>70778638
>it's just one big coincidence that nearly all terrorist attacks just so happen to be disproportionately Muslim
>>70786325
>media covers it.
I haven't seen fucking squat. The media is not giving these people a voice, and that voice is not reaching us, and if that voice reaches us, a bunch of triggered tumblrites and Muslims get triggered.
It's fucking insane. This is WHY I hope Trump becomes president, not because of his policies, but because he can smash PC culture once and for all and actually OPEN these discussions.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8227/muslim-dissidents
The fact that Islamic culture has demonised the west and alienated other ideas that may challenge Islam itself, is detrimental and why they have not moved forward to keep up to date with modern western ideologies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7OYRknGgEc
>>70786408
And what of the Arabs who practice other aspects of religion or culture?
Or the christians who believe in gay marriage, abortion and divorce?
Should we generalise races and segments of cultures as well?
>>70786433
If you go looking for it then you can find it, search these people on youtube to find media appearances. Obviously they aren't going to be in the headlines. But my point is western media coverage is ultimately irrelevant, these people need to be convincing the muslim world, not us.
>>70786409
>What is Irish terrorism.
Should I generalise Irish people as catholic alcoholics, or all christians as kiddy fondlers and gay-haters?
>>70786467
>arab
he's talking about muslims dummy, arab =/= muslim
>>70786467
Why are you bringing arabs into it? Most muslims are not arabs.
>>70786500
But you Britbongs deserved everything and more.
>>70786467
>Arabs
Muslims aren't all Arabs, stupid.
>>70786500
Bet you already do, cunt.
>>70778339
>>70778304
I'd consider myself an empathetic person but the height of my horror was thinking "Oh no, that's terrible!" before moving on. I didn't cry or anything.
>>70786500
>Irish
drunk stupid Catholics
>kiddy fondlers
also Catholic priests
>gay-haters
pretty much everyone
>>70786480
What I'm trying to say is that they should convince everyone, because people are still in the dark with this, that not everyone who practices abrahamic beliefs are going to be mindless followers.
Like any smart person, they criticise the detrimental effect of a policy and speak against it.
Some of the greatest critics of abrahamic faiths have been Muslims, Jews and Christians.
These people NEED a voice, and that voice NEEDS to be heard not just by the muslims, but by the public.
They need to know that Islamism is the near equivalent to nazism, and these regressive lefties have decided to to place Muslims on top of the victim period, because they are "so opressed, and no one likes Islam", and do it for the sake of multiculturalism.
Now more, than ever, the public must be exposed to the ugly truths of abrahamic religions.
ISLAM especially.
>>70786500
Yes, the Vatican is just as evil as Muslims.
At least they only molest their own, so I guess they are still better than Mudslimes.
Gun control laws are fine. We just never try to keep crazies away from guns. The FBI stood by and did nothing after three interviews and background checks, how can gun control stop this? They already had the power to ban this guy from buying guys but didn't use it.
This is flat out only a incompetence issue at our highest levels of government its not a fault of the constitution or religions necessarily. Although Islam sucks.
>>70786512
>>70786544
My point exactly, I do not generalise. The man who I was replying to stated that whites practice loads of culture.
I stated so do arabs. I was pointing out that various people be it race or culture do not all think alike.
>>70786559
Not an argument, you cuck.
>>70786574
Case and point of generalisation.
>>70786623
You can literally buy guns just from craiglist, how is a gun ban going to stop criminals or mentally ill getting one??
>>70786604
And here we have another generalisation.
Milo Yiannopolous is a catholic. Does he molest children or force his religious doctrine on all?
>>70778638
Considering the majority of muslims supports terror attacks against non-believers, I think yes, they are representative
>>70786650
It is an argument, though. Niggerfaggot.
If you think it's okay to generalize one group, you give people to generalize other groups as well. It boils down to this: Why should only you be allowed to be an asshole?
>>70786696
Is he a priest too?
If you kill your enemies, they win.
>>70776481
I'm sick of comedians doing this "I'm so sad about the news. How can I make jokes at a time like this?" schtick.
Any comedian worth his salt woke up to the Today show Sunday morning and had 8 jokes of varying quality ready to go by the time Chuck Todd was blubbering his fat ass on tv.
>>70786723
Because I don't generalise the Irish as the negative stereotype I've displayed.
You seem confused.
>>70786696
But Muslims do, so... Muslims are worse that Catholics... is your point??
>>70786746
Hard to believe.
>>70786737
Oliver isn't a comedian, he's your friend, he will tell you how it really is.
>>70786733
No, but this fella is.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2015/06/04/a-priest-makes-the-catholic-case-for-same-sex-marriage/
Come on now /tv/, what if he had been slaying cunny instead? Bet you wouldn't laugh then.
>>70786746
Irish are horrible people, almost as bad as Jews.
>>70776481
>This is the future Europe should fear! This is!
>>70786793
OK OK OK
Can I marry a 9 year old if I convert to Islam or not, that's the real question here.
>>70786757
My point is that the actions of many don't speak for the actions of few, nor do the few speak for the actions of many.
Everyone, regardless of faith, race, or sexuality is an individual.
Everyone has a choice, be it good or bad.
Everyone has the potential to change the world for better or for worse.
And ironic as it sounds, everyone is an individual.
>>70786797
And there's another generalisation.
>>70786829
>actions of many don't speak for the actions of few, nor do the few speak for the actions of many.
Patently false.
We are more then one bag of skin.
We represent many different groups and ideologists in our various roles.
Omar killed for what he believed was the cause of Islam.
>>70786776
Well I'm sorry if you mistook it as a generalisation.
>>70786846
Italians are pretty shtty too.
>>70786829
This is just retarded. We build models of the world that generalize because it's useful. Just because they don't cover every edge doesn't mean they don't work.
Read this: http://genius.com/Jorge-luis-borges-on-exactitude-in-science-annotated
>muslims dindu nuffins, it was just this one guy
Why are these people pretending gays are not persecuted in countries with sharia law?
I have to say though, I'm not feeling sorry one bit. Most of these retarded homos support Muslims because they think Muslims are in the same "oppressed minority" position as they are.
>>70786872
>We are more then one bag of skin.
>We represent many different groups and ideologists in our various roles.
That's my point.
Omar "Kill the gays for Allah's praise" Mateen, doesn't speak on behalf of the 5000 muslims serving the pentagon now does he?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/5000-muslims-serving-us-military-pentagon/story?id=35654904
>>70786918
He spoke for the 1% of radicals, bro.
1% out of all Muslims is ~100 million.
Enjoy yer millions of crazies let loose all over the world.
>>70786890
Yes, and those genrealised models have worked out so well for Saudi Arabia and Christian nations in Africa where being gay is a crime.
>>70786954
There's more than 1%.
Way more.
>>70786954
Well okay lad, you have fun.
>>70786958
Stop trying to force your oppressive colonial structure on these pure untainted cultures evil white man!!
>>70786908
Wow, it's as though there are now gays who speak out against Islamism.
oh wait.
>>70786983
Nice argument, shitskin.
>>70786979
CIA estimates 25%.
And 25% means only muds who are willing to kill and suicide bomb with their own hands.
>>70787030
That's still 75% peaceful ones,
Yer all fine.
>>70786995
Yes, I'll do my best not to rape, pillage, rob, destroy and commit acts of genocide with my colonial ways, and exclude the indidgenous ethnic groups from buisnesses and territories that i have created on their land.
Kind of reminds of you another group that committed acts of rape and violence that spread across Europe.Nasheed intensifiesRighteous crusading intensifies
>>70787068
Nazis??
>>70787022
Compared to the arguments you've made, you've done nothing but generalise and strawman.
I think if there's anyone who's delivered a "Nice argument" it's you.
>>70787097
Nazis, Jihadists during the days of the Crusades, Romans... quite a few actually.
>>70787101
Nah, we're just laughing at yer silly attempt to flip flop to divert blame from the source.
>>70787168
I haven't diverted blame from the source, I've just stated that everyone is an individual and doesn't carry out the same actions from said source.
If anything I've commented on how they criticise it and preach for the sources reform.
Again "Nice argument."
Why is he such a cuck? Terrorist mentioned a single time. Bill Maher would have at least spoke his mind.
>>70784620
>his parents arent extremists
His parents were Afghan refugees AND his father is a supporter of the Afghani Taliban you fucking retard.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/orlando-shooting-omar-mateen-father-seddique-mateen-taliban-god-punish-gays/
>>70786202
As per usual, people ignore the part where the actions are religiously motivated.
>>70784620
Why are you blind to reality?
>>70788288
>>70788176
>Why is he such a cuck?
British genes at work.
>>70784041
Good to know I'm not alone.
