Ok so I just finished watching this for the first time and it's easily my favourite movie when it comes to racial issues, what's do you think /tv/?
Reddit as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZolqMmSU8
>>70739754
Top tier HighschoolKino
Go watch Mississippi Burning or Driving Miss Daisy you twelve year old FAGGOT.
>>70739869
Woah calm down there boy
Bait and switch
>>70739904
Who you callin boy? I bet you're a nigger lover.
Would watch again but fat faggot obese retard is intolerable.
Most /pol/tards could really benefit from watching/rewatching this film.
>That scene where Derek goes /pol/ on that Jewish guy but still makes a lot of valid points about the LA Riots
>The scene where his dad talks about how it's bullshit to hire someone based solely on their color
>The way Derek starts to realize how hypocritical the Aryans in prison are and gets raped
>That scene where Sweeney meets Derek in the prison infirmary and tells him that he used to hate white people, before realizing hatred was pointless
>That scene at the Neo-Nazi rally where Derek realizes how stupid and dangerous racism can become
I love that the movie's message was "Even if so and so is true, hating and judging people solely on their race/ethnicity isn't necessarily a good thing, and living with hatred in your heart won't make you happy in the long run", which I feel is as relevant today as it was back when it was first released, maybe even more if you think about it. Of course I assume most /pol/tards only see it as "WHITE PEOPLE BAD OY VEY MUH SHEKELS GIBS MUH DAT" because it didn't end with all the black people being hung or all the white people coming out on top. Overall solid 9/10 film.
>>70740296
Did you see the very last scene?
The ultimate message of the movie is: "around blacks, never relax".
So yeah.
>>70740334
>>70740340
The fact that both of you responded with memes leads me to believe you have no real argument against what I just posted, and instead choose to fester in your hatred and ignorance because it's easier than accepting humility admitting you're wrong.
>>70740296
>before realizing hatred was pointless
>implying its about hate
its about white genocide you stupid goy
>>70740334
No the ultimate message is that the cycle of violence and hatred between races only brings despair
"Oh god what did i do?"
You taught your little brother to be a nazi fuckhead and perpetuated racial violence, that's what you did.
the kid that shot him had the same shit swirling around in his head that furlong did
The pointlessness of all of it is the point of the movie
>>70740380
How much karma do you have?
>>70740590
>only brings despair
>implying
>>70740296
>A movie will change a person's outlook and view on life
You are stupid.
>>70740296
>Even if so and so is true, hating and judging people solely on their race/ethnicity isn't necessarily a good thing, and living with hatred in your heart won't make you happy in the long run
>fighting in a war wont make you happy in the long run
>standing up for what you see is clearly wrong wont make you happy in the long run
I think people who spout that shit actually see that derek is right in most of the shit he says, but since he is strawmaned as a crazy skin-head into a world of drugs guns and violence they go "hey, you shouldnt believe this things that are right, because in the long run you end up in jail raped by neo nazis and niggers shoot your brother"...while in reality those scenarios apply to 1/1000000000 of the people who might have derek's beliefs but dont go all degenerate about it
>inb4 hate begets h8
>inb4 when someone is actively hateful to you you should hug them cause if you fight them there might be violence
this is the same reasoning as people going "I dont need a gun if someone threatens my life cause I might kill them"
>>70740590
>the message of a (((hollywood))) movie is love and friendship
Oh wow, i'm surprised tell me when movies reflect the real world
You can make a movie about whatever you want, it doesn't automatically change reality
I think ur 15.
melodramatic, overacted, predictable 90s jew propaganda
>>70740590
>if you just were a good boy violent nigger thugs wouldnt have shot you!
>its YOUR fault!
>if the cops come to arrest you for murder you have every right to shoot them
>why should they perpetuate violence against you? its just not right!
>if you're violent and someone becomes violent in order to stop you, youre the same fucking thing just take his life with full justification
>why would he butt into your affairs?
>>70740619
Yeah like the death and despair of all of Europe. Remember?
When facism was the direct cause of the single largest loss of life in human history
Don't worry you'll get yours in time
Krieg ist Krieg und schnapps ist shnapps
>>70740739
>Cops come to arrest you
>right to shoot them
Where is this in AHX?
Everything up until the curbstomping in the robbery was perfectly justified and legal. Come on my property to rob me you damn well getting shot. Children were asleep but nignogs gots to be bangin yo!
protip: let them go to jail, dont curbstomp
>>70740747
yeah and hitler was a bullcum drinking maniac bent on conquering whole of europe amirite?
>>70740747
>When facism was the direct cause of the single largest loss of life in human history
Actually, this fellow was. Want to guess what ethnicity he was?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda
>>70740798
Its in that part when you put blame on both sides equally when one of those sides wouldnt even exist it it wasnt for the shitty attitudes of the other side. You say "violence begets violence" and you point it towards the nazi retards, when in reality, without the gangsta nigga problem those fags wouldnt have any reason to exist, theyre a direct product of thuggish violent african american culture...same way as when you dont kill anyone, cops dont come to arrest you. Yeah, violence begets violence when youre a violent nigger ruining cities, unfortunately.
>>70740833
>invades all of Europe
>somehow doesent want to conquer Europe
I don't know where your getting bull cum from
Maybe something to do with that fear of a black guy fucking your imaginary girlfriend that your constantly projecting on here
>>70740903
>he went directly to cuck posting
>invades all of Europe
let me guess, the 10 gorrilion too amirite?
>>70740888
Being a neo nazi retard is not any sort of a solution to violent niggers ruining citys
It's like the point of the movie
>>70739754
Niggers deserve to be curbstomped, it's just too bad they'll never understand that.
>>70740925
Explain to me how anything other than German aggression was a cautational factor for the start of ww2
Because the Germans deserved their liebenstrab?
>>70740976
most people who hate niggers arent neo nazis, sorry to burst your bublle
the movie just uses crazed fuckhead violent neo nazis cause otherwise their arguments would make TOO much sense for a holywood movie. They even make sense now as it is, it just now you dont have to think "hm, this actually sounds like a sound argument" because all you have to do is look at the strawmaning extremist they had spout it and go "nevermind that guy said it and he's obviously nuts"
>>70741027
why do you think hitler invaded poland?
>>70739869
>calls someone a faggot
>tells them to watch Driving miss daisy
Iz u srs nig nog. Fucking Hallmark original movie core.
>>70741033
I think various aspects of black and urban culture are completely fucking retarded and worthy of my criticism
That being said the racist characters in this film don't do anything to help resolve these issues. They just sing songs about stomping niggers and actually stomp niggers.
>>70741055
To take back land that he felt his country deserved after being reprimanded for their last act of inhuman aggression that cost the lives of millions of young men
>>70740865
We're not talking about the soviets
Nice attempt at changing the subject tho
>>70741145
exactly, and thats why theyre the protagonists...so people like you can use this argument, when in reality, the solutions are already there but are not used or attributed by violent nazi thugs..their motivations are sound, how they use those motivations is completely retarded. There are literally black scholars at this moment talking about how the welfare state perpetuates violence and degradation in african american communities and how telling african american women "have a kid with someone who has no interest in being a husband and a father and the state will be your husband-the more kids you have without dads the more money you get" only reinforces the destruction of african american communities and social cohesion.
But of course you dont hear any of that shit cause who they used to represent the white people in the movie are fuckheads who go "hey there's this problem-lets do drugs listen to bad music and bust heads!" so you can go "no no no, the real problem are those guys" literally disregarding the source which gave these idiots ground to be created in
>>70741190
yes, the germans felt wronged after the first wrold war (and rightly so in my opinion) but maybe it was mainly because he pleaded with poland numerous times to send over germans who lived there and wanted to move to germany and their response was to actually start fucking mass murdering them
>>70741024
Do something about it then faggot
>>70741281
Yeah but I know that all you pol fucks have a Derek living inside of you
You all believe in your superiority, and want to violently remove the inferiors from your society
You can hide all you want but that hatred is still in there.
And it's still no good for no one
>>70741328
>let's go ahead and move south to Africa and east to the Chinese border while we're at it
>>70741372
see, all you have is strawmans m8
both the movie and you when you encounter logic which if you actually admit is logical will mean youre a "neo nazi" in your programmed head
we're anonymous here you know, I literally have no reason to admit to you that I would want niggers violently killed or drove out or whatever so why would I lie?..do you think I give a fuck to convince you about something that much?
>>70740060
>>70741421
WTF does that have to do with anything?
>>70740334
>>70740480
>>70740654
Not an argument.
>>70741421
>ww2 happened all at once
we're not talking about deep into the war here, at that point it was all-out germany VS russia, what youre saying has to do with geopolitical reasons for strategic war
>>70741446
Healing the welfare state and helping the black community are actual solutions
You point to liberal concepts now
Literally dem programs
>>70741487
>Every single post on 4chan needs to be an argument backed up with facts and reasoning
Sounds like you're autistic, friend.
>>70740380
You're on /tv/, shitbird. Are you a redditors who visits here occasionally to preen yourself on your moral superiority? Get fucked
Now I feel disgusted for defending /pol/ behavior, as insufferable as they are they're just stewing in their bitterness in good company. You though, I can tell how fucking proud of yourself you are
>>70741519
are you retarded man? literally "dem programs" IS the welfare state
that shit should be abolished ASAP
>>70741537
Not an argument either.
>>70741495
Why is Poland the only act of aggression that matters?
In their post war state invading another country is politically inconceivable, and worthy of a response from the allies
>>70741602
>let your countrymen die then
I guess its a matter of opinion..I would consider letting your citizens mercilessly killed to be inconceivable
>>70741550
No i mean educaction and strengthening the community and helping blacks assimilate into white society
Welfare is cancer look what it does to the Indians
>>70741651
That does not justify their subsequent attempt at taking over the world
Nor was it their motivation
>>70741652
>No i mean educaction and strengthening the community and helping blacks assimilate into white society
Im not talking about help at all though. They had all the help they could get and look where that shit got them. What im talking about is black wholesome households teaching fucking responsibility to their kids, that shit cant be accomplished through state programs, at this point the blacks need a huge paradigm shift which only them can accomplish themselves. No one is hiding "the truth" from them, we're in the information age. The solution is right before their eyes, they just deny to see it.
>>70739754
really wish norton would do that last scene where he re-shaves his head.
>>70741704
>That does not justify their subsequent attempt at taking over the world
this is some science fiction shit right here
>that doesnt justify them become werewolves and building bases on the moon
are you german man? maybe start looking in history at your own since youre a big boy now? maybe start searching shit which contradict the worldview you've been presented in highschool by the state and see if there's any validity in them?
It's really pathethic that /pol/ unironically thinks this is a "redpilled" movie.
They literally can't understand subtext and greater meanings behind events.
>>70740060
But he's the best part.
>>70741808
I know right?
*sips 1967 Pinot Grigio
>>70741808
the real subtext is that the regular text is the subtext.
put that in your pipe and smoke it, cheif
so i guess were not going to talk about the original ending where he shaves his head again implying hes going back to the brotherhood?
>>70741711
It is true that blacks feel entitled to shit due to their disenfranchisement
They are wrong. I argue with my friends about this point. Handing them more shit won't fix anything. I say to my friend "give the black community reparations and it will destroy them like the native americans" that being said what is the true solution?
the black community must be assimilated into modern society. That is going to be a long process that will likely take longer than our lifetimes. That being said the only way to go about that is to be cogniscent of the factors that have caused the divide between white and black culture and try to make it as harmless as possible
It is a worthwhile goal. It is a worthwhile dream
>>70741777
If hitler could have he would have flown a Swazi in every country on earth
>Fairuza Balk will never be your loving, loyal qt nazi gf
>>70741963
everyone feels they're entitled to free shit.
>>70742020
Precisely its not just blacks that feel this way
>>70742006
its funny that she is jewish irl but shes a neo nazi in this.
truly one of the best actresses of the 90s though;that masters of horror ep with her in it was amazing.
>>70742006
would never let that crazy bitch near my family.
derrik is worse than a nigger.
>>70742215
my people
>>70739754
That you should watch The Believer instead
>>70742241
Not forgotten
>>70741963
>That being said the only way to go about that is to be cogniscent of the factors that have caused the divide between white and black culture and try to make it as harmless as possible
youre wrong from scratch man...THEY have to do this, and im not saying it in a sense of "let them sort their shit out hurrr" but its kinda proven at this point that the whites trying to "make blacks better" always leads to disaster because at the drop of a hat, with a minimum effort of misdirection they will turn on that shit as "whitey tryna make us whites" and "black nationalism" and trying to find a sense of identity by turning into weird shit as "we don need to be whitified, mozart and plato were black"...their change must come from within their own communities/selves, otherwise it is not built on solid ground. And the only thing we can do, just even hoping the situation goes towards that, is to stop treating them like special citizens. Stop making excuses for them, stop justifying shit with shit that ended 200 years ago and start treating them as actual equal members of this society, because at this point, them being treated as equals will actually bring them DOWN a notch, thats how far gone we've gone off the reservation.
>>70742299
I don't. That kind of shit triggers the fuck out of me and I don't stand for it. comes from a lack of cultural identity that is rooted in black people coming from slavery. Their cultural identity is disenfrancisement. As far as I'm concerned the white blood shedded during the civil war was more then enough payment for slavery. Half the white people in America slaughtered the other half over slavery
I don't feel any sort of guilt for being white and don't feel responsible for the plight of over races. This is because I haven't done anything to harm them because I do my best to not be racist, even though I feel that it is my, and all of our natures to be so
The system fucks over everyone, but I can understand that due to racism it fucks over blacks more. People are racist as fuck look at 4chan. This generation is more racist than the last
Basically what I'm getting at is being prejudiced against a certain race is a uselessly simple solution to an infinitely complex issue
>>70742598
>The system fucks over everyone, but I can understand that due to racism it fucks over blacks more. People are racist as fuck look at 4chan. This generation is more racist than the last
why do you think that happens?
20 years ago you had blacks protesting for a kid been beaten sitting on the street playing...today you have them fucking protesting for a literal criminal who got shot by the police for attacking them during a fucking robbery. When the excuses of one side go that far, you can expect the other side to go that far the opposite direction. And I dont think its 100% reactionary tbqh, I think the "moderate" blacks silence reinforces that shit. If you had a mainstream black group like BLM who preached "get over yourselves already" I guarantee you at least 1/3 of the people you'd call "racists" today wouldnt fucking exist.
>>70742598
>but I can understand that due to racism it fucks over blacks more
btw when a cop enters a ghetto where there are 5 murders a day between blacks and a 20 year old perpetuated mentality of "fuck da police" and "kill da pigs" infinitely popularized by the most mainstream music genre blacks have ever produced, you can expect him to be on edge, it doesnt have to do with racism, it has to do with pure logic and survival instinct.
>It's a /pol/ episode
>>70741963
>Cogniscent
>>70742767
>Shooting people in the back while they run away from you is survival instinct
There's just something wrong with Americans.
>>70742930
>its a triggered episode
>>70742951
yep, that one incident totally negates the 400 others where the cops are literally assaulted or shot at
>>70741652
Dem programs can't change black IQ
I never got that about American History X.
What movies were they selling that was making them such big bucks?
Like all-white family-friendly comedies?
>>70739805
>Implying half of 4chan doesn't go on reddit and vice versa
>>70740296
I like that even when you inb4 all the /pol/tards responses, they don't read to the bottom of the comment and do everything you predict. Top kekkels.
>>70742988
edgy teens and shit were buying red pill videos.
>>70743040
maybe read some of them then instead of doing exactly what you claim "kekkelz xD" you cause most of the are about the bottom of the comment
>>70743013
Only you, faggot. Only you.
>>70743075
I did read them and they never fail to make me kek. Honestly the dribbling retards from /pol/ swarming here these days are both destroying /tv/ and making it even more hilarious at the same time. Watching people who think they're smart talk absolute drivel to a reddit tier level is one of my favourite pastimes
>People thinking this movie is about racism
No you fucktards. This movie is about violence. Norton's character being not given a fuck and that last scene obviously that nigs can nig or not.
Niggers will be niggers and redneck nazis will be redneck nazis. Violent is the main focus of the movie here.
Retards.
>>70743013
Gb2r faggot
>>70741225
No one's changing the subject. We were talking about mass death, and that guy was relevant.
>>70741487
Those were arguments, stupid, but statements. If you want to appear smarter than you actually are, than you fail.
>>70743131
>Watching people who think they're smart talk absolute drivel to a reddit tier level is one of my favourite pastimes
I guess you spend a lot of time listening to yourself, then.
>>70743231
Agreed.
>>70743531
Nah, I know I'm not very smart. That's why it's so funny watching other people like me who think they've cracked racial politics and know the ultimate truth that everyone else is too blue-pilled to see.
>>70741281
>Welfare State perpetuates violence
That is the same kind of bullshit stretching that we see from SJW academia, but with a different political bias.
First off, poor people are less desperate with welfare, which actually leads to a DECREASE in all forms of crime, including gang related activities.
So if the problem isn't welfare, what is it?
The problem is easy to understand:
>Blacks enslaved for generations
>Bred for physical labor, not other traits
>Aren't given proper family structure
>Suddenly, enslaved blacks are free
>Society does not help them adjust to raising families, getting jobs, and being constructive members of society
Generations later, we have a large percentage of the black community that still hasn't adjusted. Since children normally learn from their parents, shouldn't it not be shocking that many blacks still have the same problems that their freed slave ancestors did?
The solution is time, and trying to lessen the impact of the problem, by improving school districts with majority black students. Other racial groups had untold generations to fix these problems. Mass slavery caused an unnatural social condition for blacks, and the only real solution is to give it time and let things repair themselves naturally.
>>70744223
>Society does not help them
Because society needed to help all other groups of people. You leftist faggots will NEVER admit blacks are just shit.
>>70739754
one of the last masterpieces of 20th century.
>>70744223
its really something how blacks enslaved in america are the only unique group in the history of the world needing all that help
also, your solution to them getting more help than any other racial group in the past 100 years while theyre steadily declining being giving them MORE help seems really radical and full of promise
>improving school districts will improve the individual
is it also gonna improve them beating up people doing well at school and calling them uncle toms and reverse oreos?
>>70741027
>liebenstrab
that's not even german you fucking retard.
>>70744223
>That is the same kind of bullshit stretching that we see from SJW academia, but with a different political bias.
how? educated blacks themselves admit that thats one of their main problems, the state basically paying them to be niggers raising fatherless children while taught they have everything coming to them cause of slavery
>>70744316
>africa was a continent of geniuses with an isolated community of retards trapped in the middle
You learn something new every day
>>70739754
Great film, wish it took place over a few weeks instead of 24 hours, though. I want to see the fallout from his brother dying
>>70744223
Watch this if you actually care about the subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piwaBO6U43U
I'm not trying to be /pol/ as fuck here, but all I got from this film was that black people were at fault the whole
>inb4 whites didn't nothing wrong
that whole torture scene was fucked. but the entire time, the blacks do everything wrong
>shoot firefighter dad for literally no reason
>try to steal truck for revenge over a fucking basketball game
>kid kills skinhead brother for literally no reason
I don't know how the director was trying to get his point across when blacks were being portrayed as niggers the whole time
>>70739754
>favourite movie when it comes to racial issues
>FUCKING NIGGER-LOVING NIGGER detected
>>70744316
>tfw you're in the green
Damn it feels good to be aryan
>>70744591
I read a book called Freakonomics that had a chapter about the rise of crack cocaine in the U.S. and it really was eye-opening as to how it changed black communities in poor areas and how all the gangs started forming.
I'd recommend the whole book cause it's all about how misleading statistics can be, and how correlation isn't necessarily causation.
>>70741987
But he knew he couldn't, so that's a fucking stupid argument
Never relax
>>70739754
that flackback scene with the father was stupid as fuck
>>70739754
Looks like it was made by a Jew.
>>70740296
This is how I see it too, to bad so many people dont.
>>70746817
hot
>>70739754
The underlying theme is that violence breeds violence, while dropping redpills left and right (the launch scene, his father's flashback scene).
Great films for those with who can put 2 and 2 together.
>>70747860
True. Sweeney, Derricks Dad, and Derrick all make good points in the movie. Sweeneys speech about hate, Derricks dad talking about affirmative blacktion, borh Murray and Derrick at dinner, and Derricks speech to the other nazis about not feeling safe in their own neighborhoods before they fuck up thw grocery store
>>70749566
The grocery store for me sort of made all of Dereks shit a bit silly
>Niggers rob and wreck everything
>So to show we're better we'll rob and wreck this Korean place
I mean I get why they did it, it just fucks up his entire spiel about white supremacy
>>70739805
>movie ends with blacks looking like bad guys
