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Former Ghibli producer says women are too realistic to direct
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-06-10/former-ghibli-producer-women-too-realistic-to-direct-fantasy-films/.103045

>[Yonebayashi] describes Anna as “an androgynous character, in the transition between child to adulthood, a very sensitive age” but offers up an intriguing reason for choosing another female-led story: “I'm male myself, and if I had a central character who was male, I'd probably put too much emotion into it, and that would lead to difficulty in telling the story.”

>Will Ghibli ever employ a female director? Nishimura fields this question. “It depends on what kind of a film it would be. Unlike live action, with animation we have to simplify the real world. Women tend to be more realistic and manage day-to-day lives very well. Men on the other hand tend to be more idealistic – and fantasy films need that idealistic approach. I don't think it's a coincidence men are picked.”

Tl;dr Women have a realistic outlook on life, men have an idealistic outlook.

Is he right?
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>>70729943
Bullshit
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No one knows anything about women.
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>>70729943
I guess
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>>>/a/
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Generally speaking he's right. Most fantasy settings are steeped in the values and fantasies of the masculine Romances, Arthurian chivalry where good and evil are not abstract but tangible forces doing battle on the stage of epic quests and in the hearts of men. Even when it's not strictly one of those settings, that still tends to be its core - even all those "sucked into another world" light novels are like that.

He's not really trying to say that women aren't imaginative or can't do fantasy, just that the abstract idealism that drives fantasy stories is a more masculine fascination. Women tend to be more concrete in their thinking, even when they're fantasizing. Feminine fantasies might center around an ideal person or situation, but the core of it tends to be a more "grounded" goal. Just the word "romance" showcases the difference: to the masculine imagination fighting dragons is romantic. To the feminine imagination a passionate love affair in a picturesque setting is romantic.
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>>70729943
No, I would say that women, on average, are much more idealistic than men
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>>70729943
Pretty accurate. Women suck at abstract thought, symbolism after all and want everything to be crystal clear with noting more than face value when it comes to convey ideas.
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But guys are good at seeing the world in a realistic light too
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Women have shitty imaginations. It's why they play with dolls/play house/etc when they're kids because that's the only thing their stunted imaginations can come up with whereas boys play with toy cars and soldiers and build forts and have adventures in the woods and shit. Women are just boring and they write and create boring shit. This is 100% fact so don't waste your time trying to refute it.
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>>70730864
Arnold, you're so smooth!
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>>70730640
literally you
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>>70732182
is that fucking real
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>women are too realistic
The japanese really have no clue when it comes to women.

Quick /tv/ show this article to your girlfriends and report back how many of them are laughing.
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>>70732458
Yes, and if you look at that guys post history he's still an unapologetic cuck who white knights constantly.

Yeah I know I'm admitting to having used reddit but after reading that shit I just could not abstain from seeing how bad it really was.
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>>70729943

>asian person
>putting emotion into something
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>>70729943
I don't think he's actually wrong. Men are more emotional and idealistic but end up getting a lot of those qualities repressed and snuffed out of them early in life because of social pressures.
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>>70730623
You just invented that. All of that. It takes balls to just make nonsense generalizations like that.
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>>70733414
Asians can get emotional about muh family honor. And their great ancestors. Most of the time it's not living family members though.
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>>70733404
I don't understand why guys like this just don't buy a fucking escort.
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>>70733571
Where can I do that? Backpages seems sketch.
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>>70733777
Try living in a civilized nation instead of America for one
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>>70733813
I'm not about to fly to Amsterdam just to get laid.
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>>70733777
Check out theotherboard.com. The forums seem pretty legit.
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>>70733932
Then go on a vacation, the escort services will be part of the trip.
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He's kind of right, why do you think women typically watch romance movies about real life while men like fantasy and adventure movies. Also men like comics and video games and that shit.
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>>70734957
>Also men like comics and video games and that shit.
>men
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>>70729943
>Women have a realistic outlook on life
Horribly false premise.
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>>70735015
I am a man, even if you try to tell me I'm not.
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>>70734957
doesn't explain all the women getting wet from twilight
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>>70730463
Care to explain, love?
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>>70735057

Shrug it off, mate. If you like comics then just like comics. That doesn't necessarily say anything about your character. Anon will always take shots at you about it because it's fun and easy. Remember where you are.
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>>70735088
Twilight is a great example of what the guy in OP is talking about actually.
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Sexist nonsense. But I'm not really surprised that a Japanese person can think this. They aren't as developed as the Western world.
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>>70733498
If he was a woman, he would've made a more realistic and grounded post.
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>>70735088
You think they give a shit about vampire lore? No, they like Twilight because it's about love
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>>70733498
How about trying to refute it?
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>>70733414
you're just a white dumbass too culturally stupid to understand subtlety and when they feel it is appropriate to be emotional
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>>70735088
R-Patt is a dreamboat, anon. Plus chicks dig older men (more centuries the better), so naturally vamps get broads nice and damp. It also explains why feminist Buffy fans got soaking wet over Spike despite him being a sadistic murderer who tried to rape the gurll pwr protagonist.
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>>70735088
twilight is the least imaginative thing in the world though
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There are hardly any women directors in ALL of animu to begin with. Why the fuck would Ghibli bother "experimenting"? They have the worst and most brutal budget-squeezing process too. No woman could endure that.
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>>70735282
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>>70735316
There are hardly any women directors.

fix'd
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>>70729943
You never see women directors or producers say offensive blanket statements about men. They'll say stuff like "this should have a woman's touch" or that it's hard to get in the biz, but that's about it.

Why are men such cunts?
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>>70729943
But women write fantasy and science fiction all the time. The first sci-fi ever written was done by a grill.
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>>70735342
>actually googled an image from a movie 50 years ago

you can't die off soon enough you irrelevant old fart
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It's a bizarre comment for many reasons.

1) Many Ghibli films were adapted from books written by women.
2) Many Ghiibli fantasy films are also very grounded in reality (Totoro, Porco Rosso, or his own film Marnie).
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>>70735388
I mean, it is just an observation based on what he has seen. He knows there could be exceptions.
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Men and women are just different.

Men are idealistic.

Women are gold digging status hungry pigs who will slit their child's throat to climb the social ladder or succumb to delusion and prescribe to themselves a level of status they don't actually have.

That's how men and women are different.
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>>70735412
You seem angry, did someone go pee pee in your coke?
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>>70735530
Someone has mommy issues.
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>>70735563

I found the woman.
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>>>/a/
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>>70729943
totally true
immediately comes to mind trying to watch a movie with gf and every 10 minutes she is complaining about how fake everything is.
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That's weird since they directed fantasy films adapted from female written fantasy books
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>>70729943
Then why do women like romance movies?
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>>70735600
>deflecting

Sorry your mother molested you, anon.
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>>70735563
Someone has a bleeding vagina issue.
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>>70735729
because even if you make romance in a fantasy setting, the central theme is strongly relatable to the real world. Instead the journey of the hero is a more idealistic theme
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>>70735870
>how dare you "deflect" an Ad Hominem

Could you be any more of an irrational woman?
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>>70730640

>are much more retarded than men

Fix'd for you
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>JK Rowling
>Ursula Guinn
>Every woman on this list : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_speculative_fiction

Japs are just too insecure in their masculinity to compete with women. Because western men actively encourage women to compete with them, they become better men as a result. Old world countries like Japan and in the middle east are terrified of this so they subjugate women because they know that the more beta males they have there will be pushed out of the labor force by women.
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>>70735870

Woman, please be more irrational.
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>>70736023
you'd be surprised by the amount of women who actually make anime and manga
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>>70736023
Japan doesn't subjugate women, most Japanese women are very happy with their lives and some might even agree with the guy in OP. What he said isn't necessarily an insult.
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>>70736137
As animators or screenwriters. There aren't many female anime directors.
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>>70736218
writers mostly
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>>70735900
>>70735944
>>70736083
>still dodging

Seriously though, do you think about your mom when you say shit like >>70735530?
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>>70735530
But men slit throats far more than women
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>>70736381
>dodging
The extent to which you have misjudged this exchange is terrifying. But why should one expect more from a foolish little girl.
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I've felt a great disturbance in the force. James Rolfe got it bad and there wasn't an ounce of sexism in his video. Not agreeing or disagreeing with Mr. Yonebayashi, but this is going to be another level of controversy.
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>>70735177
underrated post
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>>70736553
No one cares about the Japanese.
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Are there even any female Jap anime directors? I know female mangaka, and female LN writers, and female doujin writers, but no female directors.
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>>70735870
Woman confirmed.
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>>70736695
Yes, there is that woman from K-ON-like shows. I sometimes see /a/ discussing her when I go there for Berserk threads.
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>>70736804
Her name is Naoko Yamada.
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>>70736804
Do you know her name? It would be funny if the chick directors only did SoL though.
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>>70736695
http://fusion.net/story/311999/studio-ghibli-women-anime-directors/
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>>70736846
>>70736840
kek

>Clannad
>Kanon (2006)
>Air
>Haruhi
>Nichijou
>it really is all SoL

It's top tier SoL though so I guess she won that one.
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>>70736846
Yup, she only direct SoLs.

Director:
K-ON
K-ON 2
K-ON the movie
Tamako Market
Tamako Love Story
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>>70736888
>lists 9
>only 3 have worked on anything not shit
>only two of those three was the main director
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Remember. He said women directing animated fantasy films. Not writing fantasy.
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>>70736905
>>70736973
Anime really went to shit. Damn, from stories inspired by Western cyberpunk and other sci-fi subgenres like Nausicaa, Akira, GitS, Texhnolyze, Lain, Cowboy Bebop to some crap for creepy lonely fucks like K-ON.
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>>70735177
Holy shit. I feel bad for the other anon.
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>>70729943
Women btfo
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>>70730576
not even women.
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>>70735530
you seem salty
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Based Japs.
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>>70729943
>Former Ghibli producer says women are too realistic to direct fantasy films

What he meant was that bitches have no imagination...
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>>70735175
or just more honest
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>>70730463
>>70730576
>>70730640
>>70733357
Plebs, it's not like people haven't said the same thing for ages. Mencken and Weininger didn't say anything different.
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>>70735175
>feelthebern
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>>70733414
is that Tori Black?
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>>70729943
...isn't it the complete opposite? I feel like women are the ones who "dream" and are always thinking about the way future and reading too deeply into things while guys kind of takes things how they are and go one day at a time. There are idealistic men, and they're the big names in history, but as a majority men seem simpler than women in just about every way.

I literally fought my friend last night and today we're cool with it. Sounds like day-to-day and simple mindset to me.
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