Meanwhile, in the world of THEATRE.
>>70699862
>no one ever said Ron had to be ginger
>no one ever said lets go to the theatre
>>70699862
It specifically says hermione is white in the books. Not to mention all the front covers.
Theatre is a bit gay tbqh
Why does anyone care? Oh boy, an off broadway show with a recast character race. Wow. Next you'll tell me white guys play Othello. Or actors playing the other gender? That's unheard of in theatre.
>>70699862
>following harry potter after the 7th book.
people should kill themselves
>>70699910
It actually does state that Ron is ginger. His whole family is. It's the one defining physical trait he's given
>>70699956
Where?
>>70699956
I love how in denial Rowling is about it.
>no one ever said a poo prism was possible
>>70700002
This is all the proof that Hermione is white in the books?
>>70699862
>All those times she was called Mudblood
I am very triggered by this.
>>70700053
book covers always showed her white.
>book says Hermione is white
>covers on all the books have Hermione as white
>official art promoted by the author herself back when it was first brought out had Hermione as white
>suddenly she's black
kek
>>70700053
Official Art and Book Covers had her as white LONG before the movies were even an idea.
>>70700053
Nope. There's this too. I think there might be other mentions in the text as well but I'm too lazy to find them.
Basically, Rowling is going back on her (extremely well-written) works in order to score some brownie points with the sjws
>>70700002
I would have no problem with all this if it weren't for that one image.
Rowling is clearly just being overly pc about all this and probably felt excited to try and own everyone with anti racism or some dumb shit. No Rowling, you're just fuggen dumb.
>>70699982
For fuck's sake, this. It's theatre.
Does anybody hate Rowling for claiming dumbledore as gay?
all the time i liked powerful, intelligent, /r9k/ tier alone sad grandpa who kept an eye on harry.
Suddenly one day in news - "Rowling says that dumbledore was gay".
everybody goes wow, so progressive.
>>70700154
>brownie
That's a bit racist.
>>70700218
>Suddenly one day in news - "Rowling says that dumbledore was gay".
>everybody goes wow, so progressive.
It's not even hinted at him being gay in the books. She just needed some free publicity so she told a newspaper he was a sausage smuggler all along.
>>70699910
Weasley's have red hair, so they'll cast someone like this as Ginny
>>70699862
God forbid it's not like they recast Othello as WHITE before!
Oh wait...
>Theatre play
who fucking CARES??
>she does not have to be white
That is fair enough though.
I only got annoyed by the stupid fucks who were arguing she was always meant to be black.
I am pretty sure rowling imagined her white given everything we have seen but I don't mind a black hermione.
>>70700218
What is your reason exactly? Apparently he's not gay on her own impulse to get attention, he's literally just gay.
>>70700154
>(extremely well-written)
Anon, I think that ignoring Hermionie being white is stupid too, but let's not go overboard here.
WOW. britcucks B T F O.
>>70700218
Can't he still be an intelligent, powerful, /r9k/ tier alone sad grandpa who is also gay? I mean his sexuality has nothing to do with his character in the books or movies.
>>70700460
my reason is it was never hinted in the books like this guys agrees>>70700292
she just wanted to be in the limelight, so she comes out with a sensational announcement.
she does it too often.
i am not saying i hate gays or dumbledore can't be gay.
i got the impression that he was lonely sad guy who was tired of his family, relations and focused on studies and learning about magic.(bit same like voldi).
now after 5 years if zoo becomes legal, rowling will come out saying that voldi was zoo too and banged nagini on daily basis.
>>70699862
No one said she had to be black.
>>70700553
tbph she probably just forgot what she wrote in her own goddamn book.
Yeah, but have you read the plot synopsis for this fucking thing? Black Hermione aside, if they pull this off it's gonna be fucking glorious.
>>70699862
>No one said Hermione had to be human.
>>70700154
>(extremely well-written)
What's happening is part of a phenomenon I wrote about a couple of years ago when I was asked to comment on Rowling. I went to the Yale University bookstore and bought and read a copy of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." I suffered a great deal in the process. The writing was dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing.
But when I wrote that in a newspaper, I was denounced. I was told that children would now read only J.K. Rowling, and I was asked whether that wasn't, after all, better than reading nothing at all? If Rowling was what it took to make them pick up a book, wasn't that a good thing?
It is not. "Harry Potter" will not lead our children on to Kipling's "Just So Stories" or his "Jungle Book." It will not lead them to Thurber's "Thirteen Clocks" or Kenneth Grahame's "Wind in the Willows" or Lewis Carroll's "Alice."
Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.
>>70700053
She was treated as she was a human being so she couldn't have been anything other than white.
>>70700553
This kinda irritates me. I have no issue with her being black in the play, but acting like she was ever possibly black in the books is stupid.
>>70700002
That's not a literal white face you goon, it's an expression for fear, like her face was pale. Rowling is a bad writer but she's not that bad as to literally describe someone's racial skin colour in a moment of panic.
>>70701027
Thanks /lit/ your ability to point out the obvious never fails to astound
>>70700002
I love how you're somehow defending even though it's all made up bullshit anyways, it's her character... fanboys (who are unsurprisingly mostly closet racists) never get this worked up over minor inconsistencies within their favorite franchise.
>>70699862
Nigga it's just theater, they do shit like this all the time, or do you get mad too when they do all male or all female versions of certain plays?
>>70701093
I agree with you, anon, but I still think it's clear the character is meant to be white in the books and Rowling implying anything different is blatant pandering.
Like I said above, I'm cool with the black actress in the play but pretending book Hermione might be black is stupid.
>>70700700
>>70700292
>gay book dumbledore
doesn't he have a very obvious "fellow bachelor (maybe more than a) friend" in his backstory in the books? I feel like there was a pretty strong subtext for him being gay by the last two books and Rowling's announcement was a confirmation and not on the same level as "hermione is black now"
>>70700154
>brownie points
heh
>>70700566
Ok so do we need a press release that Snape and all the other adult male characters were straight? It was a bullshit SJW move.
>>70701309
Yeah. I got the distinct impression that he was more than bros with Gellert
>>70701637
The other adult male characters have obvious love interests. Snape was in love with Lilly, Werewolf guy was dating Trunks or whatever, Weasel dad had a wife, ect.
Dumbledore was pretty much the only male character where his sexuality was never really important, but it wasn't mentioned either.
>>70701027
Thanks for the delicious copypasta
>>70699862
I don't give a fuck that they cast some black women as hermione in a play
But holy shit, at least cast someone who doesn't look like a fucking train wreck.
Emma Watson is a massive 10/10; how did you go from her to this?
If you're adamant about casting a black women so you can appear progressive, at least make it an attractive one.
>>70701637
it wasn't a press release, ya fuckin trog. a fan asked if dumbledore ever found a true love during a Q&A and part of her answer was that he was gay.
Is Rowling actually claiming that Hermione was black? I get the impression that she's just ok with her being played by a black actress.
Also, Dumbledribble was definitely setting off my gaydar in HBP.
>>70701754
Trunks?
who cares?
do you guys go around and talk about this with people irl too?
>>70700218
Dumbledore's backstory is that he procrastinated defeating wizard Hitler because he had a crush on him
The SJWs have done it....they cast a literal ape in a theatrical production for diversitys sake.
It says she turns pink when she is embarrassed in the books. On top of that blacks cannot blush so she IS white
>>70702172
>>70699862
we wuz wizards n shiet
ey harry Befo' you know it, i be done aced de tesses
>>70699989
>*after the third book*
>progressives so uncreative they can't make their own characters
>take whatever non-specific race character they can and use that instead
>>70701168
no, when you put your art to the public it stops being completely yours especially if you made them pay to enjoy it.
Just look at george lucas, he shun everyone who didnt agree with him and look at what happened
I still fail to see what's the problem. It's theater, nobody cares. No one would have made any fuss about it if people just let it go by. Plays with far more edgy shit have been going on forever. Like a woman jesus or something.
Also the main problem you guys have isn't the skin color. It's just that she is piss ugly. The reaction would be milder if the actor was a black qt. Well in that regard, she is closer to Hermione than Watson.
>>70699862
Let me start off by saying that there's nothing that bad about this on a surface level. It's not like Hermione's race is sacrosanct - it's a fucking children's book series. It doesn't matter It's the motivation and the potential precedent this could set that pisses me off.
It is an absolute fact that for the past fifteen years, every human being on planet Earth has associated the character of Hermione with the image of Emma Watson. Casting not only a black woman, but a black woman who doesn't even bear a passing resemblance to Emma Watson in the role is a completely bizarre idea. It would be like casting an older Harry Potter and giving him blonde hair. Everyone would say, "Hang on, why does Harry have blonde hair now?" and it would be incredibly distracting and strange.
I suppose if you really, really wanted to cast a black Hermione for some weird creative reason, you could, but to think that this was a decision rooted in an artistic vision or a desire to somehow help black people is to delude yourself. This isn't the result of some nebulous progressive agenda, and it definitely has nothing to do with art. This is about money. They knew full well that making such a ridiculous casting choice would generate a backlash, and in a time when the media narrative of "internet nerds" as a vicious pack of mindlessly misogynistic bigots is in full swing, it's pathetically easy to disguise the inevitable backlash as some kind of knee-jerk racist reaction on the part of those evil cyber-bullies. So not only does the theater company get to star in its own little miniature drama, where they fight a pointless battle against an imaginary enemy, but they also get heaps of empty praise and incalculable amounts of free publicity for a production that is running the risk of only appealing to a relatively small audience.
Black Hermione is a scam. It is insulting and bald-faced and if it works then expect to see a lot more shit like this real soon.
>>70699862
>No one said Hermione had to be white.
No one said she had to be an ugly she-boon either.
>>70702630
its bait to get seats full anon. Nobody cares about it and that monstrosity will never get anywhere near the big screen
>>70699862
Her being black isn't the issue. Her looking like a hideous monster is the issue.
They have literally gotten the ugliest negroid they could find for this role. Even the Ghostbusters gorilla is more attractive.
>>70699862
Do people really care about the race of a character in a who-gives-a-fuck stage play?
>>70703356
yeah, apparently enough to turn her black
>>70700553
Jews give me millions of dollars, so it's okey guys.
Hermione could be a nigger.
If they wanted to get a black woman to play Hermione, couldn't they have at least chose someone that isn't ugly as fuck? Look at her fucking smile, it's sickening.
Makes sense, really. Why do some people gotta be mad?
She's already a mudblood, it's not that much of a stretch to make her a mudskin as well.
>>70701093
The books literally have her on the covers as a white girl, from before the movies came out.
>>70701093
She's white, though.
>>70701027
>I'm a pleb and therefore am only capable of make an argument based on ethos by regurgitating the opinions of others.
So are we to assume that Rowling didn't give descriptions to illustrators and oversee the film?
Was white Hermione merely the work of a cover artists guesswotk, and everyone, including Rowling, was too polite to say something?
It's right-on PC bullshit. Everyone knows it is, the fake smiles are as blatant as the liberal hand-wringing saying 'please believe Im not racist even though I'd kill myself if a family of loud smelly nignogs moved within 2 miles of my postcode'.
>>70699862
You know what bothers me is they cast an ugly ass bitch who can't talk and care barely speak.
I've seen her on several shows and she is absolutely terrible. Her big teeth of her makes her sound like she's talking while chomping down on some watermelon.
>>70704064
The irony is that by complaining about "representation" and "why couldn't she be black?", the fans are admitting their own racism by an inability to identify with a white character, as hermione is clearly serving as a self-insert for these people.
>>70704044
WUZ
>>70699862
It's fucking uncanny
>>70699862
If they wanted to have a nigress, it could have been at least a pretty one
>>70704170
WIZARDZ
>>70701093
I don't think black people become pale. They have black skin you know
fragile white egos so butthurt that hermione's endearing and noble traits are being ascribed to someone with darker skin.
lmao. it's like the mudblood racism message went over your heads. you "fans" should be fucking ashamed of yourselves.
>white face
it's an expression of being horrified you illiterate nerds.
>>70701975
do you guys think a ripped guy could pull off this outfit irl
The most telling sign that Hermione was meant to be white, really, is the fact that Harry didn't automatically assume that mudblood was a racial slur when Malfoy called her one.
>Malfoy, you can't just call black people mudbloods!
>>70704573
Definitely.
>>70701861
>>70703608
No, because attractive black girls might be too threatening for their target audience of middle class white women.
>>70702610
Make an all white production of the Lion King play and see what happens.
>>70701754
he was also like 200 years old
probably couldn't find anyone he could reminisce with
non of this shit even matters
She is cannon white now after the movies
Rowling was an absolute control freak (maybe for good reason) when it came to her books. It had to be perfectly as she envisioned things. That's why she is white in the movies and in official art, because that's how Rowling pictured her. Also irc all black characters are mentioned to be black in the books, and Hermione is even mentioned to be white at one point (though it might not be literal).
Is that enough?
>>70705339
Cannons are black though.
>>70701079
This times a million
>>70702604
>it's an "George Lucas willingly surrounded himself with yes men for the prequels" despite going out of his way to ask other directors and writers to work on the project but no one wanted to work with Lucas for fear of their own careers because Lucas was blacklisted by the Director's Guild and Writer's Guild episode
>>70699862
Thesps of all colours should be thrown into a pit of fire. This is where the rich fucks dump their no talent, special snowflake kids.
>>70705657
>Lucas was blacklisted by the Director's Guild and Writer's Guild
was that the thing about not using the correct form of credits?
>>70699862
the problem is that britain runs out of white actors much like france runs out of white football players
>>70699982
>that face prosthetic
kek they can make real dolls and extra realistic prosthetic penises for transexuals, and this is the best face they could come up with for this guy?
>>70700440
Pretending skin color doesn't exist does not solve racism.
>>70700218
Being gay is not irrelevant at all to how one's life might unfold. Not being attracted to the family making sex will change your life's focus entirely.
>>70706459
it's all pretend, anon. it's harry potter ffs
>>70699862
Who gives a shit? None of us are going to see it anyway. Can't wait for the movie after the Fantastic Beasts trilogy where the original cast reprises their roles.
>>70701079
yeah it would have been much better if Rowling said something like:
>Although Hermoine has previously been presented as white, her personality is the important thing and so I welcome other interpretations on her physical appearance
But no, of course everything has to be about race
>>70706220
Lucas was fined $250 000 by the Guilds for not having opening credits in Empire Strikes Back.
Lucas paid the fine, left the Guilds, and they promptly blacklisted Lucas.
>>70704573
LETS GO KILL SOME BUGS GOHAN! WE'LL AVENGE BUENOS AERES AHHHHH
Does Rowling consider this to be canon?
>>70701309
authors of the opposite sex often can't create real friendships between men or women without slipping in their own sexuality
it's pretty much fan fiction tier to say afterwords that dumbledore is gay
>>70699862
There's literally nothing wrong with Hermione being black. The only bad thing about the whole situation is Rowling basically trying to take credit for it. I don't know why she treats these things as easter eggs that her avid readers have only now discovered. She should have said something like "I didn't intend Hermione to be black but it's cool how me accidentally underdescribing her features has opened this opportunity up" but instead she's just smug about it.
>>70702604
Yeah, it's not like George asked the Holy Cow Kasdan to overlook Episode II and III scripts and he said that theyw ere fine.
people who cry about this are just as terrible as people who cry about whitewashing
every side wants to push their agenda and wants to "win" something, i really wish people would just see movies or plays as what they are: adaptions of something
>>70706220
Didn't add the opening credits, didn't agree with studio demands.
This is why he had to ask ghost-directing guys to help him until he got rich enough to do whatever he wants.
>>70701309
2 guys can hang together without being gay.
why women don't understand the concept of bros?
>>70700218
Dumbledore was a confirmed bachelor all his life.
Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit that she's black, but that the person they chose is so utterly repulsive that it is actually painful to look at her? She can't even keep from grimacing while trying to smile.
>>70699862
Only pretentious cucks and women like theatre so who cares?
>>70707115
Because women hate each other. Every friendship of theirs is momentary truce.
It's very obvious that they were gay if you actually read the books. also
>>70707115
>2 guys can hang together without being gay
Oh, like Seamus and Dean? Harry and Ron? Fred and George? Or maybe Crabbe and Goyle, or Remus and Sirius. Honestly there's tons of Canon bromance. Rowling is utterly fucking things up, but at least have legitimate complaints. If anything the books needed more focus on developing female characters. You really get the feeling that just about every girl minus Hermione is just a giggling retard.
>>70707162
you're not meant to see her that close
it's a stage production of immense scale, the vast majority of people will only see her from about 20-50m away
likewise because it's a stage production her ethnicity is irrelevant, she's playing a character, men can play girls and girls can play men, so black people can be white people and vice versa, it's about finding someone who can portray the character on such a scale and (one would hope) that whoever this is can do just that
anyone who actually goes to theatre already knows this, it's only plebs who've been brought up on flicks that care
>>70702630
This
It's theater. People have been know to have weird casting choices in theater for ages.
Hell, right now we have a Hamlet Production in the UK with a black person as Hamlet.
>>70702630
Sandy Cheeks is a squirrel living underwater, yet in the new Spongebob Musical, she's being played by a black woman.
Should we be enraged by that as well?
>>70706448
>cut
>>70709158
I would also like to add that this has been going on since the roman times, where Men played most of the roles, even female roles.
>>70699862
Which would be a better board for theater discussion:
/tv/ or /lit/?
>>70709220
Last year I went to a production of As you Like it with a mixed race Rosalind, nobody cared.
Hell just this wednesday I went to a modern adaptation/translation of Les Femmes Savantes and despite both parents and the older sister being white the younger sister was aboriginal
>>70699862
God, that woman is ugly as sinI'm talking about Emma
>>70700218
If you couldn't tell Dumbledore was gay by the last book you simply weren't paying attention.
>>70709336
On the flipside, I went to a new production of The Taming of the Shrew at the Globe where some of the side male characters were played by women and it was set in Ireland and I just hated it.
Not because of the character changes, more to do with the script changes.and also because it ended with a fucking dance-off. Mind you, apparently the Midsummer night's dream production is even worse
>>70699862
Just wait for the movie remake in ten years...
She should have just said "Fuck it i like obonogo mticktick*gutteralthroatnoises* as Hermione" instead of trying to act all superior about it.
>>70701093
>Hermione's white grin was sticking out from behind a tree
Fucking anti-white shitlibs at it again kek
>>70699934
10/10
>>70700053
No, but this is.
>>70709382
Well I actually didn't enjoy 'As You Like it' all that much because I didn't think the actors were that good at speaking their lines and it was horribly one dimensional staging wise. It was a bore to sit through, barely salvaged by the intermission and side characters
I've always wanted to go see something at the globe, you're making me nervous now anon if this is the quality of their productions.
A Shakespearean dance of does sound pretty screwball though
>>70700002
/pol/ makes a lot more sense when you realize that they're so retarded that even simple lines like this go over their heads. I mean it's fucking surreal. Sure, there's an argument that the character is white, but this excerpt has literally nothing to do with that argument, you simpleton fuckwit piece of shit. /pol/ tards are fucking unintentional comedy personified. Fucking drooling morons.
>>70709382
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/may/06/a-midsummer-nights-dream-review-a-rowdy-night-out-but-less-can-be-more
>They installed fucking speakers and lights to the Globe
Emma Rice is a goddamn hack.
>>70709468
It's probably just the person they got to direct this season's productions (Emma Rice).
Who knows, maybe next year's stuff will be better.
>>70700876
Yeah, people forget her writing quality seriously dipped half way through the series and just kept getting worse. When the fame hit her she became one of those "can do no wrong" sorts.
>>70701079
This, the issue is less that its a black actor. More so that Rowling is being so dishonest about it all.
>>70701093
If she was black, the contextual use of 'white' as a synonym for 'pale' is retarded as even though black people can pale, they don't go 'white.'
>>70709508
White people don't go 'white' either you fucking inbred moron fucktard shitstain.
>>>/pol/
>>>/special education/
Containment boarders are LITERALLY the dumbest people this fucking species has ever seen. Go fucking die.
>>70699862
>>70699862
>imagine lotr made today
I cry.
>>70709505
>[Black character]'s face went white with fear
Not weird at all unless you're some brain damaged /pol/ shill who is going to claim it's part of an agenda to push that white people are scared easily or something.
"White with fear" is a very obvious use of metaphor that even young children can understand. Oh right, that's the target audience of the books that /pol/ shill shitposters can't comprehend at even a basic level.
>tfw when you realize cinemas will go the way of the theatre
>>70709434
Hermoine's parents are dentists, it's talking about her shining white teeth
however I do agree that hermoine is clearly intended to be white
>cute white girl
>suddenly a baboon woman
Can't make this shit up
>>70709533
No, but they're white, and when they pale, become a different shade of white, hence the use of 'turning white' as a phrase and synonym for growing pale.
Also holy fuck bro, why do you get so angry? I'm not even particularly interested, just pointing out why i think you may be wrong, it's entirely possible my point could just chalk up to JK being a shitty writer and using retarded phrasing to define her characters.
>>70708723
>Remus and Sirius
Why is it always these two? James and Sirius were the real bros of the Marauders.
>>70709726
Movie Fags.
>>70709726
because james is dead and peter is a traitor so in the eyes of the audience sirius and remus have the closest interactions. We're told that Sirius and James had a close relationship but we're SHOWN that remus and sirius have one as well and show>tell in terms of sticking in the memory
also shippers and the wolf thing they both have going on play a part as well
>>70709492
She's white.
Hermoine is described as being white in the first book, with brown hair and freckles.
early sketches of her by rowling were white, this was before the book was ever published.
she is white.
dumbledore was insinuated to be gay in the last 3 or 4 books.
Ford Prefect in HHGTG was white,
they tried casting a black guy in the 20xx movie and it failed.
Progressive fucktards ruin everything
Emma Stone did nothing wrong.
Why is everyone still talking about race when there's better things to discuss like how the actual story is god awful?
>voldemort and bellatrix having a child
lel
>>70699862
>muh kids stories >:'(
who the fuck cares.
>>70709846
Mos Def was great as ford. HHGTG failed for a whole slew of reasons, the most prevalent of which being no one outside the UK knew what the fuck it was, yet every limey retard thinking its some golden boy franchise.
>>70709846
>implying any white guy can be as dope as mosdef
ayy lamo
>>70709846
>>70709894
Yeah seriously that was the one and only time I didnt mind blackwashing
>>70709894
bull fucking shit!!!
HHGTG failed because black guy + the fucking american script writers lack comprehension of the subtle humour of the brits
>>70709311
*Which would be a better board for Harry Potter discussion:
>>70709894
>>70709936
>>70709966
It failed because they completely changed the story into something that wasn't good and horrbily cast most of the characters, one of which being Ford.
Simon Pegg would have been a much better choice than Mos Def.
>>70710018
how about we discuss my cock in your arse?
>>70709894
I don't live in the UK and the first I came across Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was the movie. Mos Def, Sam Rockwell and Martin Freeman in that order made me want to watch the next movie that never came out. So I read the books. All of them. In my mind, while reading the books, I could recast every character, but not Ford.
tl;dr Mos Def was the best Ford that can be
>>70710038
this guy gets it.
mos def sucked as ford because he was black.
Pegg would have made it work
>>70710043
How about you stop reading YA?
She wasn't chosen just because she was black. She was also chosen because she was hideous, the purpose being to soothe the rotten egos of their target audience, equally hideous roasties whose appearance is the only thing they have and need to be shamelessly pandered to to "validate" their delusions and feelings. Hermione has to be a qt lily white English girl, anything else is a crime and shouldn't be allowed.
>>70710055
I don't live in the UK and i've been reading HHGTTG since the 80s and the brilliant mini-tv movie series.
now THAT was true HHGTTG
>>70709966
Script was mostly Adams' drafts fampai. As much as you hate niggers Mos Def performed well enough and was literally the only thing bringing Americans to the table of an overbudgeted and overrated nostalgic wankfest over a sub-par radio teleplay from the 70s riding the coat tails of Dr. Who.
>>70710067
> The guy who agrees with me is right because he agrees with me!
>>70699862
why the fuck do people even give a shit?
>>70710104
David Dixon is best Ford Prefect
>>70710140
Because this is /t/v/
Oh look, a drawing of the characters by J.K. Rowling.
>>70710142
I wont refute that, but at the same time i won't say that Mos Def was a terrible or movie ruining Ford. He was really good.
>>70710177
And another. Notice Dean Thomas, then named Gary, who was originally meant to be among the gang during the Midnight Duel, and was actually specified in the book as being black.
Note the contrast between him and Hermione, being not actually black.
That said, I don't really give a shit who plays whom in the play. Harry himself could be cast as black, and I wouldn't care so long as the casting is good.
It just irks me that Rowling (or anyone) would defend the casting with "Well, nobody said she had to be black," rather than "Who the fuck cares?"
>>70709966
HHGTG (book or movie) isn't very funny, in my opinion; the humor in HHGTG is all absurdist humor.
My own guess would be that americans would be, and are, more receptive to the deadpan style of sardonic british humor.
Whacky surreal stuff that fills HHGTG is tiresome.
There isn't much subtlety to those types of jokes.
>Don't forget your towel. Right? A towel! Oh how absurd and whacky it's a towel because why would he need a towel in space but he does. hahaha But it's useless anyway oh that's just crazy.
>>70709762
>>70709775
Oh. All right then.
>>70710140
it's 4chan, the place to be obsessive to the point of mental illness, petty and particular about any single subject you could ever want.
I want Hermione to be a hot little white girl with over large front teeth and bushy brown hair. Emma was good when she was 11-13 but then she started getting too sexy for her own good.
>>70710194
when he came to earth , ford was to blend in.
black people don't blend in
especially in the Uk 60s
/thread
The thing that gets me is that it just means "mudblood" was a race thing the entire time. Bravo Rowling.
>>70710252
Do they change / re-describe the characters every book?
>>70710099
This. It's a cheap way to make the character easier to identify with, and improve sales, much like the bland protagonists that have infected anime.
>easy self-inserts
>>70710272
Movie wasn't set in the 60s.
somebody just put the nignog curse on hermione
How about we laugh at the play instead of arguing about Hermione's colour again? Or we can do both.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/10/harry-potter-and-the-cursed-child-spoilers-here-s-the-plot-of-the-play.html
>>70710099
wow that was some turbopleb entry level reading shit.
I'm unliking the harry potter books on faceboo, now
>>70710239
>My own guess would be that americans would be, and are, more receptive to the deadpan style of sardonic british humor.
>Whacky surreal stuff that fills HHGTG is tiresome.
>>70710287
ha!
>>70710342
Okay, good point. I find monty python hilarious. Maybe Douglas Adams just sucks at it.
That said, monty python is still niche in the US, despite having aired years ago.
>>70700053
>Several books state she's white
>"This is all the proof Hermione is white in the books?"
Do you want a DNA test of a character from a book?
Books says she's white, therefore she's white, what else do you want?
>>70709492
T r i g g e r e d ?
>Nowhere says Macbeth was white
You know this
The films will always be kino
>>70710325
Jesus, what a bunch of convoluted shit
How is this getting good reviews
>>70699862
i hate anti-sjws who comment on every sjw vid and make them into memes. if these sjw youtubers are rich, it's because these anti-sjws make them into memes and shit. i bet anita sarkeesian is swimming in dough that she otherwise wouldn't have if it weren't for these anti-feminist faggots.
i hate anti-sjws as much as sjws. they are all normie scum. many of them sound like unoriginal sargon of akkad clones.
>>70701079
Yeah.
I mean I've gone and seen a play and in a few scenes Hercules was played by a girl.
It isn't always that important in a play.
Pretending she wasn't white in the books though is another thing.
>/tv/ - Children's Literature & Theater
>>70710517
>I cant analyse brazilian themes and british self deprecation in film
>>70710386
>>Several books state she's white
Not that i agree with him, but if it's such a common occurance you and others would be able to post more in text references other than that one part from Prisoner of Azkaban.
I think shes white and JK is backtracking for SJW e-peen, i've yet to see a quote other than 'white face was sticking out from behind a tree.'
>>70710484
Nice Korean qt3.14
>>70710577
book 1
white, brown hair, freckles and buck teeth.
do your own fucking research
I have the book infront of me
>>70710577
Because its a meme used to discredit her other descriptions in the first two books. Look at jk rowlings drawing look at the chaoter art. She's white
>>70710634
>I have the book infront of me
Please type out the full description. I don't have it with me at the moment (I need to get my own collection instead of borrowing from family).
>>70710567
Where's the film?
>>70710643
>>70710634
> I think shes white and JK is backtracking for SJW e-peen, i've yet to see a quote other than 'white face was sticking out from behind a tree.'
I'm just asking for evidence to a claim i think is silly. I can't recall any overt mentions, and as far as 'proof' that gets posted, its always that one, singular line that can be construed as being afraid rather than skin color.
Also, page number and line? I got the books in my shelf and can double check.
>>70710577
She's described as having freckles, having tanned from the sun at one point, looking like a panda--there are other places where it's clear the author is describing a white girl.
>>70710688
See cuarons and yates films
>>70706851
>There's literally nothing wrong with Hermione being black
Yes there is. Turning white characters black and vice versa is both lazy and dishonest, as well as a discredit to both black and white authors. If you want black characters, do the work and write them, don't piggyback on other people's work. And stop acting like race doesn't exist, like people are all the same regardless of their appearance, culture, religion because denying differences is not the same as accepting them.
>>70710722
Where is it in the OP or anywhere else in this thread?
>>70710725
If you agree with this post you're a racist, and seems I'm a racist for agreeing with it ;^)
>>70710725
I think his point is in a more general sense.
There is inherently nothing wrong with Hermione being black.
HOWEVER, her already having been established as white, then changed is the issue of contention. Not her being black, but her being changed to being black, to which he seems to agree with you.
>>70710790
Television and film
>>70710803
Her oarents were dentists in the 80s and well beforehand in london and she was the smartest girl in schoolm she wasn't a nigger and I'm not veing racost that's just impossiblem
>>70710838
Yes, that's the name of this board.
>>70710705
There's a line in Prisoner of Azkaban describing her face as brown that gets thrown around a lot. Unfortunately it also includes Ron with extra freckles, as both of them have been on holiday for the summer and were likely getting tanned (and Ron being a ginger, he doesn't properly tan, but Hermione does, hence the only description of her skin that isn't remarking on her frightened, pale complexion).
But the one guy does mention Rowling's art, which I've posted above:
>>70710177
>>70710230
That said, I still don't see the problem. It's a fucking play. Men used to be cast as women, and white men used to play black men. The fourth wall is imaginary and the cast may even interact with the audience.
It's not exactly a medium for accuracy.
>you will never, NEVER see Hamilton live on Broadway
>>70710706
Eh, all vague / can be argued still relevant for black.
I really don't care though, i'm just pointing out it's wrong to say, across several books, she has been repeatedly and regularly as definitely white, because all i see are one quote and pictures, which too could be argued as a choice by publisher or simply because she failed to define her well enough at the start and then couldn't change.
>>70710884
I think you and i are on the same page here. Her being played by a black actress isn't a problem. Rowling saying 'Hermione was always / could have always been black.' I'm just playing devils advocate really.
>>70710884
The problem is Rowling backtracking her own work to please SJWs
I don't care they picked a black lady to play her on theater, I'm mad at Rowling and SJW claiming Hermione was always intended to be black
>>70710923
I wouldnt want that
>>70701093
Yeah, and people with dark skin can blush.
And Rowling said Hermione is a Mary Sue of herself; and she herself drew Hermione as white; and she OK'd the covers of HP books which depict Hermione as white.
But, yeah, just an expression which throws all of that away.
>>70699862
>>70699862
>THEATRE
HAHAHA
No one who's worth a damn cares.
>>70699862
she was great in Return of the King
>>70710706
>>70710936
The argument is thin that this is simply a case of "white by default", given the evidence otherwise.
I also agree there would be nothing wrong with Hermione being black, or any other race, but what she's doing is retconing for the purpose of pandering to her audience.
>>70710634
Seriously, you've got it right in front of you, it shouldn't take you THIS long to find a quote, given its stated across several books.
>>70711059
Not only that, but it's also shit
It's fanfiction tier and it revolves aroundtime travel and Voldemort's daughter wanting revenge
Also Cedric Diggory was to become a Death Eater
>>70710936
>>70710947
Pretty much the long and short of it, yeah.
>>70711056
And these. I don't know if I'd call Book Hermione a Mary Sue (Movie Hermione certainly), since she does have her flaws, but I would say she's an admitted Author Avatar.
>>70711164
The movie hermione has flaws and gets btfo all the time
>>70700053
Also her parents are dentists. I ain't nevah seen no nigra dentist.
>>70710177
none of those characters have any skintone though. their race isn't defined.
>>70704587
Underrated post
Isn't she constantly described as having brown hair too? Black people have black hair.
It's theater... its intended audience are faggots, trannies, liberals, and lost tourists.
Having an all Nigger production seems to make sense. Faggots eat that shit up.
>all these people pretending they give a shit about JK Rowling's exact wording of her book so that they can purport their racist agenda
go back to /pol/
>>70711771
Most black people have black hair, actually
IT'S LEVIOSA MOTHAFUCKA!
>>70701027
I'm never going to understand the end of this thing. Stephen King novels aren't that bad.
>>70699862
WE WAZ WIZARDS N SHIEEEET
>>70699862
>No one ever said Bane had to wear the mask
>>70700053
Yes, saying that she has a white face kind of proofs that she's white. I know it's crazy how logic works
>>70700002
Plot twist: Hermione WAS black THE WHOLE TIME, and she was wearing whiteface
>>70711821
Fuck off.
It's not /pol mental is just common sense.
>>70700218
There's nothing wrong with her saying Dumbledore is gay because it's consistent with the story.
Hermione suddenly being black now when it's plainly stated in the book that she is white is ridiculous.
The fact is that if Hermione was black in the books and was suddenly portrayed by a white actress, the sjw crowd would lose their collective minds.
>>70701027
> I went to the Yale University bookstore and bought and read a copy of
stopped there. did you think suggesting that you bought your book at New Haven's yuppie capital would make you sound credible or something?
>>70699862
Give me one reason why Hermione should be white?
>>70701027
thankfully, today's children have better options
>>70711976
common sense is to just say "oh a black woman is playing Hermione? that's interesting whatever." and moving on with your life, not analyzing over 3,000 pages of children's literature to find random references to Hermione's skin color to prove that this is some sick and twisted abomination that goes against the word of the scripture because there aren't enough white people in your entertainment
>>70699982
Because muh pleb shit for children is being ruined!!
>>70712003
it describes her in the books as white.
At least they got the ugly part right though.
>>70711884
>Stephen King novels aren't that bad.
Then Harold Bloom was right.
>mfw rowling's new play is literally fanfiction-tier
>>70700154
>extremely well-written
Bait.
>>70710923
>>70710177
That certainly doesn't look like Emma Watson either.
