Love and Monsters 10 years later edition
What does /who/ think about one of the worst stories of Nuwho and how has it changed over 10 years
>>70664682
>>70686979
It's overblown, it's just a slice of life episode with a really goofy portrayal of a creepy monster idea, in other words an average Rusty episode.
>>70686979
>one of the worst stories
speak for yourself pleb
>>70686979
I honestly enjoy it until takes a sudden head first leap into the toilet at the point of the abzorbaloff reveal. The final coda is nice though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZWGeidvrJw
What the fuck were they thinking? Even the kid who designed the monster hated it.
There's something about that ending that really really really pisses me off, it's been 10 years so I can't remember that reason. Maybe other people felt that way as well and that's why it's one of the worst episodes. What is it?
It doesn't work for me, because they want me to laugh at something that isn't funny at all. I don't understand how is this passing for comedy.
I mean, it's probably black comedy, but somehow it isn't funny. They made a lot of effort to have me empathize with characters and then turned them into a piece of alien ass. Does Rusty think this is a fate fitting a Doctor Who fan?
>>70687128
>>70687128
The chicks get transformed into this >>70687171 and the guy says "We still have a love life" wink wink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unORPOtavqM
>>70687059
Agreed 100%. It's like Moffat wanted to just get the Gallifrey bit over with so he could get to his precious sooper speshial companion piece.
>>70687137
>>70687171
>>70687208
Jesus Christ, now I remember it.
>>70687171
What does she eat? Does she breathe? How does her jaw function for her to speak if the hinge doesn't exist. Where does all of Elton's cum go when she swallows? Can she swallow? How long before she was begging for release from this hellish existence? How long will she live? Is she immortal? Does the Doctor know the answer to any of these questions? Does he even give a shit?
RTD said on the Toby Hadoke podcast that he talked to a young fan on the phone who said "Last weeks episode was rubbish" referring to L&M.
I loved that episode when I first saw it. The concept is cool, but it really goes to utter shit in the last 5-10 minutes when the guy become this ugly monster.
>>70687137
>Does Rusty think this is a fate fitting a Doctor Who fan?
This is what will happen:
>Series 10 ends with a rip-off of Journey's End. All the Moffat era characters return to help 12 face off against Davros.
>The episode ends with Davros' prophecy being fulfilled, The Doctor shows him compassion, ultimately ending in a regeneration.
>Series 11. The new Doctor's debut proves a huge success. Everyone loves the new bonkers, fun Chibnall era. The Doctor is back to his wacky self and is more akin to Smith and Tennant. There are two new companions. A hot 20-something year old from the far future, and a contemporary Earth man who is gay and sassy.
>Series 12, Chibnall decides to do a 'darker' series. The ratings flop again. The BBC are considering scrapping the show.
>Series 12 is universally panned for being too edgy and dark. The gay companion dies in episode 2. But one episode stands out. Episode 6. It's described as "the best episode since Genesis of the Daleks". And it's written by Gareth Roberts.
>Series 13. Chibnall has been sacked and the Gareth Roberts era has begun. No liberal agendas are being pushed, and each episode gets 12 million viewers at worst. The series is a global success, and wins BAFTAs left right and centre. Roberts is hailed as the savior of Doctor Who, and even makes a cameo appearance in several episodes to the delight of the fans.
>Series 14. Gareth Roberts casts himself as The Doctor, and after just one episode is voted #1 Doctor, above Tom Baker and Andrew Garfield.
>Doctor Who is saved.
>>70687394
>All the Moffat era characters return
And dropped, Amy and Rory will literally never ever return because their actors are done with itsadly.
>>70687435
They've both said they'd be willing to come back. They won't be back because Moffat isn't going to pull a Journey's End.
>>70687480
Well, Moffat said "The Master" wasn't going to come back so maybe there's still hope, right? Moffat lies all the time.
>>70687542
Moffat didn't say he wasn't bringing anyone back. It's just not his style to do it the way RTD did. He has his own brand of clusterfuck.
>>70687394
>implying its hard to beat Andrew Garfield
>>70687480
>>70687542
>>70687394
>>70687435
>All the Moffat era characters return
But Moffat doesn't like bringing back past companions
>>70687542
Amy already came back once, that was enough
>>70687628
Then why is he bringing Clara again?
>>70687702
He isn't.
>>70687579
This is a funny scene because it features heavy Christian imaginary but angels are actually serving the villain. Thus Doctor is actually an atheistic figure here and this entire scene is a reference to an infamous incident when Richard Dawkins adcended to heaven and called God a loser on national television.
Reminder that filming finally starts 1 week from now.
>>70687732
Are you serious
I can't find it
Why do I remember sources that never happened? Am I going mad?
>>70687675
>Amy already came back once,
When?
>>70687862
I was gonna suggest we troll GB again with fake stuff but then i remembered they closed the spoiler thread because of Girly Letters. kek.
>>70687112
>Even the kid who designed the monster hated it.
Source?
>>70687888
Time of the Doctor
>>70687888
WHEN THE 11TH DOCTOR REGENERATED.
IN TIME OF THE DOCTOR.
DO YOU NOT REMEMBER?
>>70687882
You mean the recent thing where Capaldi said she was coming back? That was all clickbait and quotes from a panel convention taken heavily out of context.
>>70687908
There's still threads for individual spoilers, afaik, we could make one of those when the time is right
>>70687882
You probably saw a click bait headline about some comments Capaldi made at a convention appearance.
>>70687882
No. There's rumors that 12 and Clara might show up together in Class, but that will be a pre-Raven thing for them, if it happens at all.
>>70687948
>>70687943
That was a hallucination though
not the actual character
>>70687054
Everything leading up to the absorbaloff was comfy as fuck. LINDA deserved better.
Hello /who/
I asked yesterday, but does someone here have a good link to get Big Finish scripts ?
I've searched but found nothing.
Year of the Pig would be really appreciated.
I need them for a translation project helping foreign fans to get into BF stories.
If someone actually satisfies my request I could put a subtle /who/ meme in my translation if they desire.
>>70687980
>12 and Clara might show up together in Class
Pretty sure Jenna was busy filming the Victoria drama and I think Capaldi already filmed the Class cameo since the Tardis was seen on set awhile back.
>>70686979
run bluthe run
>>70688018
There used to be a website that had transcripts. Not sure if its still alive. Will try and find it.
>>70687991
And that was enough
>>70687579
what episode is this?
>>70688018
http://a.pomf.cat/nymxww.zip
>>70688131
I tried it, it's dead.
But using the wayback machine I'm scrolling through the deleted pages right now, I might find it.
Fuck, just seen >>70688195
You're amazing anon, I'm downloading right now. Do you want some subtle nods to anything you like in the future translations ?
>>70688232
voyage of the damned
>>70688214
Just say "I don't want the character to come back because i don't like him/her" instead of wasting my time anon
So John Barrowman is doing something in Cardiff. Any chance he's returning to the show for the Christmas Special or was it all clickbait?
>>70688297
I think it was for Big Finish.
>>70688297
He's doing your mom
>>70688256
Subtle nods?
>>70688335
Big Finish isn't located in Cardiff, they're in London.
>>70688348
Why would a homosexual fuck an urn full of ashes?
>>70688276
I do like Amy you over sensitive nincompoop
Doesn't mean it would be a good idea to drag her back, she had a definitive ending to her story
>>70688369
I think they have a studio in Cardiff.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1VX81wVBfJzQVmX1NTTkFwc/the-ultimate-doctor-who-fan-quiz-part-2-classic-who
Put your money where your mouth is /who/
>>70688365
I don't know, if you desire some kind of in-joke put in the translation I can manage to slip it in as a tribute.
>>70688387
>>70688276
Same here, but for me it's about Clara. Bill needs some time to establish herself, so I don't even want nods to Clara for a while (even tho Clara is best girl).
>>70688380
This. What you'd have to worry about if if Matt mistook it for cocaine.
>>70688509
There were nods to all the companions after they left. Even poor old Martha.
If we're going by Moffat's track record Amy got mentions in Series 7b, series 8 and series 9.
>>70688440
>>70686979
This may be an unpopular opinion, specially here at the Dr.Who main thread:
I don't get the point of Dr.Who (at least the "modern" seasons"). In most of the episodes I've seen, the writers just seem eager to write fantasy/ science fantasy stories but they all have to have the Doctor in them of course and I feel like they'd be better off just doing short stories.
Then the even fewer episodes I've seen with what I guess is main plot just seem so bloated with stupid "clever" phrases and "meaningful" moments that just honestly makes me notice the wackiness of the setups even more because they are trying to take them so seriously.
Also what the fuck is with the hot women companions, why does this guy actively seak women to go with him?
Keep in mind my knowledge about this is just surface level, but I wanted to share that.
>>70686979
Ten years of fetishes.
>>70688701
> why does this guy actively seak women to go with him?
He needs a companion to help restrain him from causing another genocide.
>>70688440
Tom has a cricket ball in his pocket in The Ark in Space so this quiz can fuck off.
>>70688509
>Bill needs some time to establish herself
I think she's in a good position to, better than most have
There was a special between her debut and the previous companion's last appearance, she had a high profile announcement, and by the time Series 10 airs people will just be happy the show is back
A few nods wouldn't make much difference to all that if they even happen
>>70688701
>Keep in mind my knowledge about this is just surface level, but I wanted to share that.
>FUCK OFF OBVIOUS TROLL
>>70688823
and to freshen his cock
>>70688954
>I think she's in a good position to, better than most have
Explain this statement. It genuinely sounds like total crap.
>>70688701
>Also what the fuck is with the hot women companions, why does this guy actively seak women to go with him?
You mean you wouldn't seek sexy women companions? Are you gay?
>>70688989
>>70689015
Talking in terms of NuWho
Martha followed ultra popular Rose, the first companion for a lot of viewers at the time, after a special in which the Doctor was moping about Rose
Donna wasn't well received after her first appearance and also was known for her sketch comedy more than as an actress
Amy was part of the unproven all new revamp that was following ultra popular Tennant so there wasn't an established Doctor to rely on
Clara followed the Ponds who were also popular, and debuted in a half series during the 50th year when all anybody was really interested in was who was coming back for the anniversary
Not saying Bill won't have some challenges, she just seems to have a few more things working in her favor
>>70689332
>she just seems to have a few more things working in her favor
What things?
Moffat said in DWM that Bill is similar to Donna.
Fucking predictable.
It won't work. She'll just spout 'sassy' lines in every line of dialogue she has to the point of it becoming irritating. At least Donna had a tragedy and was fleshed out.
Bill will be a comedy character.
>>70689372
Mentioned some in my first post
>>70688954
>>70689332
>Donna wasn't well received after her first appearance
That's why she came back because everybody loved her
>>70689440
Not what I heard, which is why they toned her down from The Runaway Bride
>>70689409
I doubt that she'll be just that, Moffat isn't that much of a hack.
I guess we'll see.
>>70689409
Too soon to call m8
>>70689415
No, I'm sorry but you didn't. Nothing you said there was clear at all.
>>70689332
>Talking in terms of NuWho
>Martha followed ultra popular Rose, the first companion for a lot of viewers at the time, after a special in which the Doctor was moping about Rose
>Donna wasn't well received after her first appearance and also was known for her sketch comedy more than as an actress
>Amy was part of the unproven all new revamp that was following ultra popular Tennant so there wasn't an established Doctor to rely on
>Clara followed the Ponds who were also popular, and debuted in a half series during the 50th year when all anybody was really interested in was who was coming back for the anniversary
none of this is about Bill
>>70689409
>Bill will be a comedy character.
sassy urban gobshite
>>70689409
>At least Donna had a tragedy
wha?
>>70689646
Didn't say they were things about Bill
I was explaining why I said I thought she was in a better position than other companions to establish herself by elaborating on why I they might have been in worse positions
>>70689735
yeah - she was a loudmouthed, ignorant cunt who wanted to get hammered drunk all the time and marry a black guy with money.
Her Mother disliked her for good reason.
>>70689814
OK. Then I disagree. You haven't really made a case mate.
Marc Warren's best role was Private Blithe 2bh
>>70688701
>why does this guy actively seak women to go with him?
I like to think he doesn't have such a preference, I like to think it's mostly the women who are drawn to him.
>I feel like they'd be better off just doing short stories.
In a way i see we're your coming from and partly agree, I wouldn't mind of doctor who became more of a anthology show. It's like each episode has to balance the Doctor, the companion, the series arc and whatever each story is about is put to the back burner.
>>70687980
>rumors
Clala will be a picture on some kind of Coal Hill memorial thing. Doctor looks at pic with 'sad expression'. End of.However, Clala will be back for Twelve's regeneration at the end of s11, I'd put money on it..
>>70690421
>I like to think he doesn't have such a preference
Explain why he preferred Amy to Rory then despite Rory being a much better person.
>>70690487
I can't, that'sMoffat
>>70690538
Why was he often more inclined to listen to Barbara than Ian?
Why did he treat Harry worse than Sarah despite Harry being a good guy who was actually useful?
Why did he like to take the piss out of Rose's boyfriend Mickey?
>>70690658
Because the Doctor is a fuckboy.
>>70688273
>>70687579
>>70687832
I've not seen this ep. Dunno why, just not keen on Xmas eps and usually give them a miss. What is /who/'s opinion?
>>70690487
>why he preferred Amy
Because he knew amy since she was 8 (i think) and the whole 'First face this face saw" thing.
>>70690658
>Why did he like to take the piss out of Rose's boyfriend Mickey?
Cause 9 is a dick
>Why did he treat Harry worse than Sarah
Cause he was prone to fucking up more
>>70690706
Fun to laugh at if you're in the mood
>>70690718
>Cause he was prone to fucking up more
Harry did nothing wrong m8
>>70688398
BF's studios are in London and SE England. None in Wales.
The Harry Sullivan is an imbecile meme is misleading. If you actually watched all of his serials you would know that Harry was based.
>>70690718
10 mocked Mickey too
>>70690706
Get incredibly drunk and then watch it.
>>70690706
*tips fedora*
>>70686979
Still shit. Mr Blue Sky is shit too. RTD deserves to burn in Hell.
>>70690706
R-Redbeard?
>>70686979
Looking back, often wonder if Moff would've gotten away with this ep if he'd been show runner at the time.
Paving slab blow job girl vs. eye bogey monsters. Which is worst?
>>70691571
>eye bogey monsters.
That doesn't count since Moffat didn't write SNM
>>70691571
Paving slab girl is a whole new conceptual level of fucked up, eye bogeys (and dust cameras) are just stupid and rushed.
>>70691571
literal sex object is by far the worst idea but i think i'd rather watch love & monsters
post picture of thick lady
>>70691622
Phuck, just googled, didn't realize RTD actually wrote L&M.
I support a transgender companion.
Series 10 will probably be Michelle Gomez's last appearance so let's hope it's a good one.
>>70691823
I wonder if you're the ginger qt transgirl who posted a pic of herself here?
>>70691757
>>70691873
>last appearance so let's hope it's a good one
Because? You're implying she wasn't good?
>>70691970
Because the two stories she's already been in have been absolutely dreadful. Not down to her of course but both Death in Heaven and The Magician's Apprentice are the two single worst stories of the Capaldi era.
Also Chibnall will probably want to do his own thing with the Master, if he uses the character, and that will probably mean a recast.
>>70692029
Ah yes, I see, the obligatory "we hate Moffat the devil" post ;)
>>70691970
>>70692029
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>>70691970
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>>70692072
Keep that autism in the previous thread please
>>70692082
What?
>>70692072
Don't be bloody stupid! I'm a Moffat fan and have always appreciated what he's done with the show on the whole.
You know I get really sick and tired of people like you coming on here and having a worthless pop every time someone dares to criticise any element of NuWho, it has its good points and bad, just like any other era of the show.
>>70692072
He's shit m8, let it go.
>>70692029
I'm feeling deja vu-ish again.
Phuck oph anti-Missy-anon.
>>70692082
What is it?
>>70692127
What are you on about?
>>70692140
>>70692128
Don't be so bloody rude !!
For your information I do not "come on here and have a worthless pop" I have been watching Who since 1981, I'm fully aware that there are elements of the show that are great, indifferent, and plain damn awful, and have no problems in giving praise where it's due and criticism where needed. What I get "sick and tired" of is people posting unsubstantiated criticism - saying "I can't stand The Witch's Familiar, it really wasn't for me, I thought it was shit" is fine, whereas "Watching The Witch's Familiar makes me realise that Moffat is a 3rd rate hack who shouldn't be allowed to write for TV ever again" is, to my mind, unnecessary and idiotic.
Now I'm certainly not accusing you of that, so I apologise if you took my post as a personal dig at you - it wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, just a comment on the general state of this general right now that seems to be full of people posting about how shit the writers are on the show (Mark Gatiss I think comes in for some really nasty, unwarranted abuse) as if they could do better themselves.
RTD got dog's abuse quite often during his reign once the euphoria of knowing that the show was back had died down - that seems to have escalated since Moffat took over, and he has gone from "wow - Blink, Empty Child, this bloke is brilliant" to "he's destroying our show, he cant write for shit" in quite a short space of time. Chris Chibnall's efforts for the show thus far have not been universally regarded as classics, and yet at the moment people are hailing him as the new Messiah who is going to save Who from the mire that Moffat has apparently plunged it into. That will probably last until the first "clunker" of his first season, or until he hires Mark Gatiss or Steve Thompson or Gareth Roberts to write a script, whichever comes first. I can't quite understand the thought processes behind it.
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>>70692204
>>70688728
sauce?
>>70692270marinara
>>70692159
>>70692127
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>>70692204
nice essay, old man. write us another
>>70691873
>>70691970
>>70692029
>>70692072
>>70692082
>>70692128
Why?
>>70692523
It's pronounced "What?"
>>70692519
Don't waste your times Cats. It's just a copy paste from the last thread which was in turn a copy paste from GB.
>>70692523
use this instead, in the future
>>70692579
>>70692523
>>70692519
>>70692380
>>70692658
Having gone from midway into Tom Baker's run, then watching the entirety of Pertwee and shooting ahead to The Seeds of Doom, here are some observations.
- 4 is much more of a cold, alien, heartless dick
- He seems to know everything already rather than have to work it out
- Sarah Jane feels odd in this serial and I don't know if it's a general thing or serial specific but her acting seems a bit lackluster compared to during 3's last series
- The show seems to be entriely studio based and shot on lower quality cameras or something
>>70692728
>>70692797
>4 is much more of a cold, alien, heartless dick
Really? How so? He seemed more capricious to me. Your observation that he seems to know everything fits well with this line of thinking. I began with 3 and ended with 7 and always thought of him as my favorite Doctor besides 5.
>>70692959
>I began with 3 and ended with 7
And then you went back and watched the GOAT Doctor, right?
>>70693074
Her and there, yes. Not all of them, however.
>>70692959
Pertwee seemed more concerned for what was going on, and concerned for every single person involved. He was a warmer presence. Baker feels like he just wants to sort out the big problem and doesn't really care for the little people in his way. It's like he treats everything as a game while Pertwee treats everything like a serious issue.
He's definitely very alien, while Pertwee was very human, or at least became moreso as his era progressed. He started out quite cold and alien, however.
>>70692819
Not seen this gif here b4. Like it. Cheers anon, saving it for future use if you don't mind.
>>70693293
Please don't steal my gif it's from my personal collection
>>70693267
I can see that. Keep watching his serials. I think you'll grow to like him.
>>70693329
Already stolen m8. Luv ya!
>>70693369
I've watched all the way from Robot to Brain of Morbius, and I've seen a couple others over the years. I actually like him a lot and think he is very good, I'm just stating what I felt having gone straight from the end of 3 to the middle of 4. The progression probably would have felt a lot more natural if I watched them all in order and didn't dart about like this.
>>70693405
I can't believe you'd do this, after I specifically told you not to
>>70693434
I made that gif. Looks like somebody's a hypocrite.
>>70693434
So a serial and a half then? Plus a few here and there?
Key to Time, dude. Key to Time.
>>70688663
>>70688663
Who the fuck is John Woodnutt and who is autistic enough to know every actor and every episode they were in? Shitty quiz.
>>70693570
>a serial and a half
Ten serials. I've seen at least 14 Baker serials, including the first of Key To Time
>The Doctor barks "Never mind how I know, just take it from me!"
An example of what I'm saying
>The music that plays when they discover the body has gone is the first four notes of the Binary Sunset melody from Star Wars
>>70693795
>not knowing based Woodnut
Filthy casual.
Seeds of Doom commentary, part two:
- It's really weird seeing Boycie from Only Fools; his voice sounds off but I don't know which is his real voice
- It's a "The Doctor refuses to talk until you threaten his assistant" episode
- They've very obviously dubbed the dialogue spoken out in the snowstorm, resulting in a very clear, loud, unnatural sound
- Some of the snow looks like a camera effect
- The cliffhanger to episode 2 is quite good
- Lis Sladen does a very convincing "I am very cold" shtick
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crinoid
>>70686979
I remember when I almost dropped this show because of this episode.
Now I know that no matter how bad Doctor Who gets there's always chance that it'll get better.
test
>>70695086
Eccles
Part Three:
- When did they start shooting location work on video? Season 13, I presume, since I remember vividly Revenge of the Cybermen was on film.
- I hate the way light reflects onto the video cameras
- The Doctor just straight up (tries to)break someone's neck, god damn
Episode Four:
- This is horrifying
- He doesn't deserve this
- Fucking hell
- The show seems to have a larger budget now
Episode Five:
- Shooting guns seriously messes with the video image
- Sarah Jane is much better after episode one
- She is fierce and fabulous in episode five
- The Doctor in The Silurians: "That's murder. Cold blooded murder!
- Sarah Jane in Seeds of Doom: "That's murder. Cold blooded murder!
- Was that intentional
- Why can't I post
Episode Six:
- The special effects are really good, especially the house being destroyed (inside)
- Weird framerate on the model shot of the house/Crinoid
- They did deserve it, I'm afraid
First episode aside, this was a really good serial.
>>70695570
>- Why can't I post
Just 4chins shitting the bead again.
>>70696223
*bed
>>70695570
>The Doctor just straight up (tries to) break someone's neck
No. If he was trying to do it he would have done it. He was buying time to escape, not trying to kill the guy if he didn't need to.
>>70696351
What would that particular action do other than break someone's neck, it's a very paculiar way to incapacitate someone if that is not your intention
>>70696555
Maybe the Doctor knows a way to safety incapacitate someone by twisting their head.
If he was trying to break his neck then he clearly doesn't know how to do it, the guy stands up completely unharmed within a minute. You think the Doctor just attempts something he's never done before hoping it'll work at a vital point in their escape?
Turns out the location work on Seeds of Doom was done on video because they actually planned to have The Hand of Fear (which needed CSO) close out seson 13, but there were serious issues with the script, and SoD was written in a hurry to fill the gap. I wonder how Seeds would have gone if they hadn't known they were using video, and were able to create an abnormally large monster.
>>70696861
He seemed very violent in this serial, using a sword and brandishing a gun. He also seemed very tetchy and yelled a lot. Maybe he was just in a bad mood and took it out on the guy.
>>70696861
It was attempted murder m8, just deal with it.
Anyone have that webm of everyone backing away from the War Machine while the Doctor steps forward?
>>70696930
I don't have a problem with the Doctor trying to kill someone, my issue is the idea he's completely incompetent.
>>70697457
How competent do you think he should be at snapping necks?
>>70698278
Very.
Doctor Who is poorly written, cringey and only Tumblr fags like it.
Prove me wrong
>>70698701
Series 9, episode 11.
>>70698701
phuck off ultros
>>70698701
You're wrong.
>>70698278
As someone who has profound knowledge of the universe, it's laws, and humanoid anatomy he should be able to figure out exactly how much force he needs to break a neck.
If he was trying and failed, you'd think the guy would be more fucked up . Instead we get some guy that just stands up and brushes it off as an inconvenience. Either the Doctor is completely incompetent and doesn't know enough to cause even a little harm to someone or he wasn't actually trying to harm someone to begin with.
>>70696351
Tell that to Mary Whitehouse.
live
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>>70692072
Jesus H let's just call it a pasta and move on.
>>70686979
It's a pleb filter.
>>70687632
If you didn't think this was cool when you watched it you're what's wrong with the show
>>70686979
What did the man who is fleeing do to piss off the American chasing him?
>>70703819
>shitty joke
>picture of literally who
>picture has nothing to do with story or question
Ah, the tards have arrived
>>70693293
Don't believe him that's not me >>70693329 go ahead take that gif m8
What memes have you watched recently?
closing time is pretty comfy until the whole power of love thing at the end
>>70705486
I agree. I think it would be a better episode without cybermen. They could reveal that there is no threat and that the Doctor was just so lonely and scared of facing his death that he was super desperate to find clues of alien invasion where there were none.
I also never liked the "i talk to babies" thing. Although it's neat how they managed to turn it into something sort of dramatic/touching this season.
>>70686979
>ywn form a club around an obscure subject matter
>ywn meet with members of the club and have serious discussion about said subject
>ywn gradually break down those social club barriers and talk about other things of interest
>ywn start looking forward to those club meetings because it's become about more than just discussions
>ywn get together with your club members and have cookies and play in band in front of no one just for shits & giggles
>ywn realize you're actually friends who enjoy each others comany
>this will never be you on stage
>>70686979
This was literally the first episode of Doctor Who I ever watched.
It required a girlfriend, years later, to force me into it to watch more.
>>70705827
>ywn have friends who you can speak to about anything
>doctor who literally just copied mary poppins
>>70705929
>>70706299
idiot's lantern, casual
>>70686979
>What does /who/ think about one of the worst stories of Nuwho and how has it changed over 10 years?
It's one of the worst stories not just of NuWho or even Dr Who as a whole but of the entire history of storytelling. It has probably only got shitter (if that's even possible) over the last ten years but it's not like I'm ever going to watch it again. Once was once too many.
>>70696900
It was originally written as a Pertwee serial iirc. That explains Four being more of an arse kicker than we're used to.
>>70706525
It's nowhere near as bad as you think it is. Calm down.
>>70705827
that's literally /who/ though. So, who's baking cookies for the next thread?
>>70706730
No, it's every bit as bad as I think it is. Possibly worse.
>>70706774
It isn't.
>>70706807
That's your opinion. In mine it is irredeemably shite. Let us now move on.
>>70706834
Okay. Your opinion is wrong though. But I agree. Let's move on.
>>70706867
Okay, in your opinion what is the worst NuWho story?
>>70706887
Let's move on.
>>70706834
Hell Bent is objectively the worst NuWho story of all time.
>>70706917
We are. We're moving onto which other NuWho stories we think are total wank.
My list is:
Love and Monsters
Fear Her
Kill The Moon
That one with the tree fairies
That one with the peg people
The s8 finale
Bad Wolf
I've probably missed out quite a few because I haven't seen all the episodes.
>>70706988
Didn't ask.
>>70706966
I thought that one was generally well liked. Wasn't that the one where he's punching a rock for like a billion years?
>>70706988
>Fear Her
>That one with the tree fairies
>That one with the peg people
3/7 try harder.
>>70707009
Whether or not you asked is irrelevant. Anyway, what are your least favourite episodes?
>>70707014
No.
Would anyone else be incredibly pumped to see a followup episode to Love and Monsters where 12 has to deal with the repercussions of trapping that poor girl in a stone block?
Hell, a whole Redemption arc where he'd revisit other good people / enteties he inadvertantly fucked over in the past could be great. Lots of room for fan service.
Who else has he functionally fucked over and said "Meh, good enough" and left at the end of the episode?
>>70707024
Yeah I could have googled the names but I figured you'd know which episodes I meant.
>>70707059
delete this
>>70707074
I do, and you named 3 bad episodes out of the 7 you picked.
DOC...TOR...WHO!!!
>moff actually thought he was being clever
>>70707099
In your opinion only three of those are shit but in mine all of them are. Why don't you post a list?
>>70707099
I don't. Is "the one with the tree fairies" The Doctor, the Widow, and the Wardrobe or In the Forest of the Night? And despite all the peg people shitposting I still have no idea what episode that's referring to.
>>70707154
>Opinions this wrong
A list would be wasted on you.
>>70707171
The one with the dollhouse and the ayyy lmao boy.
>>70707207
Right fuck the lists badly describe your favourite and most hated episode.
>Lesbian fan fiction in a truck stop at the end of the universe.
>The devil gets sucked off with infinite force.
>>70707183
Okay, I see you must be one of the resident autists who doesn't understand what opinions are. I guess it's a waste of my time even trying to have a discussion with you.
>>70707336
>Doesn't think opinions can be wrong.
You're right we're both wasting out time.
>>70707306
Don't know the first one but the second is The Satan Pit?
Mine are pretty obvious.
>Soylent Green meets Evelyn Waugh
>Scooby Doo with a nightmare ending (unless that's your fetish)
>>70706988
Bad Wolf?
Bad Wolf is GOAT m8. And good fun. And it's Eccleston at his most badass. Has the best NuWho cliffhanger too, except the one where Derek Jacobi is revealed as the Master.
>>70707412
Are you sure you're not thinking of the following episode? That one was pretty good.
>>70707479
Nah the scenes where the Doctor was in the big brother house are hilarious, and the cliffhanger where he essentially tells the daleks to fuck off is based
9 is best NuWho Doctor.
9>12>10>11
>>70707496
Yeah the cliffhanger was good but personally I hated all the "reality" TV stuff. I can't stand those types of shows.
>>70707525
it was good for the time, but it feels pretty dated watching it back now. Still a fun episode though. The controller is a very creepy concept too. Not sure they'd do something like that again
>>70706966
gr8 b8
>>70707548
I've not seen it since it was broadcast but I imagine it has dated terribly. Can you remember which episode it was where they played Britney Spears?
>>70707585
End of the World
>>70707059
why? She's happy the way she is. that's the whole point of the line about their lovelife at the end. have you actually watched the episode or you just trying to jump on the meme-bandwagon?
>>70707720
That's the one. Really cheesy and dated.
>>70707737
Yeah, the RTD era is really cheesy and dated as a whole.
>>70707811
>sometimes my girlfriend who is literally an object sucks my dick, we're so happy!
What will 12's last words be?
I see him whispering "shut up" to the companion who is in hysterics as he is dying, unsure what to do
>>70707892
He'll say "I hope the kidney colour is less conspicuous this time."
>>70707892
>A tear, Clala Oswald?
>>70707892
>I don't want to go star in stories written by Chris Chibnall because he's a shit writer so i'm regenerating
>>70707884
>this is what faggots consider a happy ending
>>70707979
Kek
Why didn't 12 just use the shovel to break down the wall in Heaven Sent instead of punching his fists to a bloody pulp? It would've saved him a lot of time and pain...
>>70708073
i would place it on the floor and take a shit on it
>>70708218
Because it wouldn't have been as melodramatic.
>>70708218
Because on every loop, by the time he got into the final chamber and realised what he had to do, the Veil was directly on his tail.
>>70708218
By the time he remembers, it's too late to go back and get the shovel because the Veil is blocking the corridor.
And why did the diamond room not reset?>>70708311
>>70708325
Moff actually answered this IIRC.
>“It’s not a room in the castle, it’s the outer wall of the [Confession] Dial,” he explained. “The clue is that it’s 20 feet of Harder Than Diamond. Why bother making it so hard, if a resetting stone wall would do?”
>>70686979
Believe it or not: this was the first episode I EVER saw of Doctor Who...
>>70708325
Because the diamond wall is the point where the confession dial interfaces with the outside world. It's technically not part of the castle.
>>70708311
Why didn't he try twatting the spooky ghooost with the shovel?
