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Warcraft makes $124 million in China in 3 days, breaking several records
http://deadline.com/2016/06/warcraft-conjuring-2-now-you-see-me-2-weekend-box-office-1201770307/
Thoughts? Sequel confirmed?
It'll have to make at least $2 Billion in the first week to make a profit. DOA flick t b h
I watched it. Never read any lore, never played the games, zero expectations.
It's ok. Better than Xmen Apocalypse by a long shot, but some of it felt forced, orc moses didn't make any sense, and there's almost no conflict resolution at the end. It's one of those movies that makes me want to post a picture of Frodo and ask why none of the orcs realized that green magic shit kills everything it touches or why such an honor bound society follows a dick orc that pisses on their honorable ways.
This movie will be a money printing press and will spawn 5 sequels, 17 spin-offs, a short lived tv sitcom, and a book of pottery written by an orc in mandarin.
Thing is, they will all be shittier than the original movie. Which is pretty shite. By the end, even the diehardiest fans will be crying in the dark of the night whispering for it to end.
And that's when they will reboot it.
>>70687761
I still want a StarCraft movie
>>70687539
>I watched it. Never read any lore, never played the games, zero expectations.
Same but i liked it a lot.Cgi was amazing, it was a beautiful movie.And it has an interesting story that seems to going to expand and will pay-off in the later movies.It reminded me of LoTR in that regard.
>>70687761
no it wont, they didnt pander to the masses and tried hard to statisfy warcraft fans in the first movie and they wont start with pandering in the coming movies. or at least i hope so.
>>70690590
that's what i believe aswell anon, a friend of mine watched and said he didn't get much of the story because he only played warcraft 3,if they make another and continue with the second war it'll be less of a problem since the first movie also shows a lot of the traits of the characters involved, although i don't get why they changed some of the things like garona killing king llane at the dark portal, khadgar hopping into the font and becoming fel infused to drain the life out of an injured medivh, doomhammer being such a bitch in general and dark portal switching to stormwind when there's no dark portal in stormwind, all of this and probably some more are just wrong, garona never actually sided with humans, llane never told her to kill him, khadgar was sent by kirin'tor to apprentice under medivh, karazhan was stormed by the troops, garona and lothar and khadgar dealt the killing blow by killing medivh with a sword, dark portal never switched to stormwind and doomhammer was one of the most courageous orcs ever lived
>>70690590
>they didnt pander to the masses
ummm china is the masses now. they pandered to them.
I thought it was the case that those that fund movies don't give a fuck about international performance and only care about how it does in the US.
Is that just a meme or is there some truth to it.
It did well overseas, but if it under performs domestically there will be no sequel.
>Thoughts?
The chinks have awful taste and will ruin film
>>70688068
Fuck that shit
40K 4 Life
>>70686918
I just hope they hurry up with the sequel. It's literally fucking impossible to cover even a tidbit of Warcraft's awesome lore in a 2 hour movie.
My only gripe with this one was related to this. Dude was in Dalaran for 1 minute. Talked to the Naaru for like 15 seconds. There is so much deep and interesting shit behind everything they showed in the movie but they didnt cover any of it.
Still loved it though.
>>70691644
I want it so bad, but i know they can never make it dark and violent enough to do justice
>>70691778
it will be atleast a good 4 years before a sequel is possibly coming out. With Duncan making another of his own smaller movies and the fact that Warcraft 2 will have to sit in the render oven for atleast 20 months it's gonna take long.
This movie was made for the Chinese market
>>70691290
i guess its just that the wow hype in china is still alive
>>70691832
>40k
>Verhoeven
The only way
>That scene where Garona is laying on her side sexily and implies she's been slave-raped multiple times
muh dick
will she be relevant in the next movies? Also what was her other half since they called her a halfbreed?
>>70692099
orc/nigger obviously
>>70686918
How can i become a shill?
I can use some money desu
>>70686918
How much can orcs bench?
>>70692244
About tree fiddy
>>70692244
12pl8s easily
in the later movies they reveal orcs are just humans who left humanity behind
GULDAN DID NOTHING WRONG
>that scene where he brings baby thral back to life
thats a man of reason
The tickets come with free WoW correct?
Isn't this just gold farmer christmas then?
>>70692350
You can probably get the game without gametime for cheaper now
remember the trash cans are gold mines, get the codes and sell
>>70692336
>GULDAN DID NOTHING WRONG
He blew up Dreanor you know
/tv/ BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>>70692437
wait does this mean you've been blown the fuck out as well or are you admitting you're a tourist??
>>70692099
No I don't think she'll be in the next movies.
In the movie's version of the lore, she's half human half Orc, with her father being Medivh. Or at least that's what's implied.
But in the original game lore, she's half Orc half Draenei (the blue people at the beginning)
>>70692423
archimonde and kiljaden made him do it
>>70686918
Chine loves it
>>70692423
Nope that's Ner'Zhul. Gul'Dan is a hero and saved the Horde.
Movie was amazing. haters on suicide watch.
>>70692512
>rating from 1-5
>8,2
>>70692569
Stars from 1 to 5.
That is 10 in total if you count half-stars.
>>70692472
>no answer
so the latter then??
MARVEL
BTFO
IT'S OVER
CAPEKINO IS FINISHED
NIGGER IM TELLING YOU
ARTHAS MOVIE WILL GET 10/10
>>70691362
They get a smaller cut overseas. They get the smallest cut from China.
>>70692717
lol dcucks at it again
Civil war was shit, anon.
>>70691644
>40K
>edgy as fuck fanfic about Mary Sue Emperor
>le HERESY meme
>>70692831
No they don't. 55% cut from China as Legendary is owned by Wanda.
>>70692717
What website is this?
>>70692478
Wait, so Medivih is her father and he made her pregnant?!
>>70687539
>why such an honor bound society follows a dick orc that pisses on their honorable ways
did you not see him threaten them with gruesome death?
>>70692767
Can't wait for Warcraft 3 part I: Revenge of the Sith 2bh.
WHY
WHY ANON
WHY IS EVERY FANTASY ADAPTATION FUCKING SHIT EVER SINCE THE RETURN OF THE KING?????
ARE NORMIES RUINING CINÈMÁ?
>>70692099
half orc/draenei
>>70692478
>But in the original game lore, she's half Orc half Draenei (the blue people at the beginning)
>But in the original game lore,
Nope, in the original game lore she was half human.
>>70692099
half human half CGI
>>70697753
oh my god how in the world did you find that
Can I suck your dick?are you black?
>>70696937
because the entirety of the "high fantasy" genre is just knockoffs of tolkien?
I was surprised it didn't end with Stormwind getting BTFO.
There was a lot of lore inconsistency, the only one that really bothered me wasLlane's assassination.
The reasoning and execution was poorly handled.
>>70697753
Not canon.
She's half orc half Draenei.
>>70686918
we're going straight to Pandaria.
>>70697753
all this means is she THINKS shes half human, but she isnt, she just looks like it, which was a surprise to guldan when he made her.
kinda made they changes everything at the end of the movie to make her out to be a good guy and not a massive cunt.maraad is her uncle.
>>70687539
I'm not sure how they'll resolve the Gul'Dan thing either. You need the orcs defeated and imprisoned for the Thrall story to make sense.
Watches it last night. I can see how people with no knowledge of Warcraft lore would get lost. But I've loved wow lore, and I kept up fine. I fucking loved it. One or two cheesy moments, but so much else was really great. I'd give it 8/10 easy.
>>70697753
That's one retcon I'm glad about because it didn't make any goddamn sense.
>>70697946
The statement was, the original game lore.
That is the original game lore.
>>70698008
Why didn't it make any god damn sense?
You are wrong btw.
But try to tell me why you aren't.
>>70698008
it made sense in the original game because the Horde was on Azeroth for years before attacking Stormwind. It just took them way longer to retcon Garona's heritage than the timeline
Gul'dan saw the Horde led to supremacy over most of the Kingdom of Azeroth, but on the eve of the final siege of Stormwind, Gul'dan was aware of a raiding party against Medivh's tower of Karazhan. Realizing that the Azerothians intended to slay the Guardian, Gul'dan hastily ransacked Medivh's mind for the Tomb's location. He was still deep within the Guardian's thoughts when Lothar and Khadgar killed him, ending Medivh's treachery and forcing Gul'dan into a coma.
Without the counsel of Gul'dan, Blackhand was easily slain by Orgrim Doomhammer, who, with information acquired from an interrogated and tortured Garona, proceeded to slaughter Gul'dan's warlocks and the majority of the Shadow Council.
Just like the movie :^)
>>70698025
she is still talking from her POV. you can't take it has fact.
If it said "Garon the half human" sure but it says "as I" and considering she was lied to from birth it means nothing.
>we want the chinese audience
>To demonstrate my 'loyalty' to Orgrim and the Horde, I promised to create a host of undead riders that would be completely loyal to him alone. Although the Doomhammer did not fully trust me, the idea was sufficiently appealing, and so I was allowed to enter seclusion to create this new legion.
>Even with the aid of my Necrolytes, I was unsuccessful in bringing forth this undead force. Failure and weakness were all that these minions could offer me, until I sensed that while their spirits were willing - it was the flesh that was weak. I summoned them to a great alter constructed of Ironwood and Blackroot where, at the height of a black incantation, I took the lives of every last one of them. In the bloody wake of their executions, the Necrolytes would then, at last, nourish my creation of the ultimate undead servant.
>Using what few resources I still controlled within the Horde, I acquired many of the long-dead corpses of the fallen Knights of Azeroth. Into these twisted and decayed forms I instilled the essences of the greater members of the Shadow Council who were quite willing to return to the mortal plane to wreak terror and havok once again. I furnished each of the dark riders a jeweled truncheon through which they could better focus the unearthly powers they would brandish. Into these jewels were infused the raw, necromantic magiks of the freshly slain Necrolytes. Thus were the Death Knights born.
can't wait for the second movie. ty based chinks
>>70698154
Garona is still half human. I thought it was implied Khadgar was her father.
So you know the warcraft code thing they were handing out? Well I grabbed like 50 of them, what do? Some dude was selling them on ebay for like $200.
>>70687119
Where'd you get that math from Disney Shill Budget was only 260 Mill
>>70686918
>needs 500million just to break even
PIFAHHAHAHAHA one and done boys one and done wow what a flop.
>>70696956
I want to fuck Garrosh. I hope they make enough movies to get him into a couple.
>>70698583
The Codes were for an account for WOW that includes Vanilla, TBC, WOTL, Cata and Mop I doubt it's selling for 200$ on ebay.
>>70698583
I'll take one, bud.
>>70698635
260Mil Budget? that's the break even where did you learn to math? detroit?
>>70698705
send me your email or something buddo
>>70698714
Dream on Blizzdron enjoy your only Warcraft movie and its 12% RT score.
>>70698682
Also I tried one and the code only gives you a new game, it can't add time to a pre-existing game.
>>70698771
>Some industry sources
>>70686918
It's probably going to repeat what Pacific Rim did, very large international take, a domestic flop, and it gets a sequel. It won't be hard for this movie to make 400-500m, but it isn't going to make much more than that.
>>70698846
sent :^)
>>70698733
Could I get in on this kindness?
>>70699004
sure thing pal
>>70698771
that is before selling it to tv and sales at home
>>70699045
I put it in the name box up there
thank you
>>70686918
I went into this film with the lowest expectations possible, it wasn't a perfect film by any means, the first 25% dragged for a bit, the dialogue was very videogamey, but damn it picked up and became fucking kino by the end.
>that sargeras transformation
>khadgar actually becoming likable by the end of the film
>and neat twist on the Garona assassination with Lane
>Durotan and Guldan fight, Durotan's death was actually emotional
>the sheep scene
>the duel scene with Mork'Gar, fucking kino
I give this an 8/10, seriously surprised me with how much quality it was. I think if you haven't played the games you won't like it as much though..
>>70699186
The duel was nice until the for my son line
>>70699149
sent :^)
>>70699186
the only real flaws were the weird exposition and constantly referring to "the fel" as if everyone should know what that means when they barely touch on the Legion
Medivh turning into the Avatar of Sargeras was dank as fuck
>>70699251
It's nowhere near perfect, I went in expecting a trainwreck and being entertained by the incompetence of making a Warcraft film. But holy fuck, after the first 20 minutes I was sucked in, I loved it, I want a sequel really badly.
>>70699221
It was corny, but it a warcraft corny kind of way, once I realized what Duncan was going for I was floored.
who else here thought the golem was going to turn into an infernal
i only played WC3 and read a bit of lore on WC1 and 2 so i dont have that much extensive knowledge.
>FOR AZEROTH
>FOR THE ALLIANCE
>>70699186
>>70699294
Why the fuck did critics hate this?
It deserved at least a solid 60 or 70%. It wasn't that bad. What the fuck.
It's all goddamn memes with the world.
>>70699296
I thought it would at first, but then I remembered that wouldn't really make much sense.
It was close enough.
>>70699247
Oh I get it
4/10
>>70699310
Can Travis Fimmil not not have an accent? I like his performance but some lines just don't work because of it
>>70687539
>there's almost no conflict resolution at the end
Well, it is called "Warcraft: The Beginning"
>>70699296
I thought it was going to be like one of those curators dudes from Karazahn but I guess it would be hard to have this not look dumb in a movie
>>70699338
but it was actually sent though
>>70699327
I have no idea, it makes the hobbit look like fucking trash, this is seriously a great fantasy film.
honestly after watching the film i dont get 70% of the complaints in the film
i get pacing was a bit fuzzy but it didn't effect the film in a long run
>>70699404
Fucking this, I even saw it with a bunch of my friends who haven't ever played any of the games and no shit all about the lore and they said it was great.
>>70699358
Nah, it'd be possible to have a Curator be intimidating in a movie. Just have it do what pic related do.
>>70699404
The pacing in the first 30minutes is really bad though like it gets better but wow how did anyone think that cut was serviceable?
>>70699479
i feel like majority of /tv/ and /v/ who'll watch this will say it's complete garbage because after shitposting so much for a movie they havent watched they'll be too embarrassed to say it was good despite being anonymous.
it's a common trait for <15 year olds.
I thought it was an ok movie, the human part of the story was defiantly not as good as the orc. Soundtrack was fucking great though.
>>70698586
260 million? Is that a misstype, or did they release marketing, etc info too?
From what I saw, it was only 160 million.
>>70699496
I still get triggered when I see one of those get pulled
>>70692989
The empeor isn't really that major a character in any of the 40K stories or the horus heresy. Usually he's just sitting on Terra working on his top secret highway project while everything else in the galaxy is trying to each everything else.
>>70699378
Woops I'm a fucking fag who cant type his email right. Its videogameguru342, the other email is mine too but I cant figure out the shitty password recovery now that I actually need to access it.
>>70699691
Sent again then:^)
>>70699507
Same. They didn't spend nearly enough time on Draenor. And there were some scenes that I really wanted to see more of, and you could tell there was more of, but then there would just be a sudden cut. Remember that one scene where Khadgar is studying and making notes in his room for about 15 seconds, and then it just cuts?
i thought the dark portal looked good
>>70699729
thanks again, it means a lot
pic related is me having quit with over 4 years /played time on a single character, I thought I was really done this time
>>70699894
You know the code doesn't add time to existing accounts right? Even if you redeem it through your account it just adds another WoW license under your battlenet account
>>70699945
It takes a day to level up now and my server is shit anyways so I don't have much to lose
until I'm too deep to care how much getting my old account back up will cost
>>70686918
I hope they make a director's cut
PLEASE BASED DUNCAN
>>70688068
i love starcraft but after the campaigns of SC2 i really don't trust blizzard to write any more starcraft, ever.
I found it okay at best, but of course it needs sequel. The movie fucking ended abruptly.
>>70701270
I was surprised they didn't make it to the sacking of SW
>>70701312
Garona needed to kill Llane in front of Varian, it's his only character development that isn't comic book trash
>>70701312
>tfw the sequel opens with Cho'gall and based Kilrogg burning Stormwind to the ground
>>70692478
>>70695315
I get where you are coming from but it is barely an implication. Medivh only said he left his lover from a far away land, it is such an astounding stretch of reason for that lover to have been Garrona's mom.
I refuse to believe that is ACTUALLY what happened.
>portal opens to Stormwind, where there isnt a dark portal to exit
>Garona dindu instead of being mind controlled
>No Ner'zhul no Drek'thar no Hellscream no Saurfang
>SUDDENLY LOTHAR FLIES INTO THE MIDDLE OF AN ARMY AND GETS OUT ALIVE
shit got stupid in the third act
>>70701501
Hellscream was there.
>>70701501
Grom was in 3 different scenes my dude
>>70699540
260 with marketing
>>70701396
>Elite Tauren Chieftans shredding it like no tomorrow in the background
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brWXG6sQe5I
>>70701475
If they didnt intend it they fucked up by adding that random story that normies will use to connect the dots
what's up with Aegwyn in that cube thing?
>>70701609
Yeah I don't know what the fuck was going on in that scene.
I did kek at the interaction though
>"Do I go in?"
>"I don't know, it's never done that before"
>>70701501
>>No Ner'zhul
it's funny that that guy that everyone thought was Ner'zhul ended up just being some random orc in a skull mask getting electrocuted
>>70698771
>believing critics
>>70686918
It makes sense since the Chinese are soulless automatons without any human empathy and this film is a hollow mechanical bird singing a tuneless song.
>>70701589
I was sort of disappointed that they didn't use the Stormwind theme in any of the aerial shots, but the Power of the Horde blaring while it burns down would be cool
>>70687761
Don't forget a game.
>>70701806
There are some brief moments where they sneak the theme in.
>>70698231
>>70701396
I am so fucking ready
>>70686918
A Starcraft movie would make 1 billion in Asia on opening weekend.
>>70692318
nice bait
>>70701396
More Warcraft spurdo
So what changed in the movie? I saw it but I don't know my warcraft lore
I thought Lothar, Khadgar and friends fight them back through the portal and get trapped there, or is that after the events of the movie?
Garona they made a lot more of a protagonist than I remember
>>70701396
I really hope there's a massive naval battle.
>>70702211
This movie made it about 75% through the First War.
Khadgar seals the portal from the other side to end the Second War, and is presumed dead. Lothar also dies in the Second War to Doomhammer.
>>70698510
In the movie it is implied, but in the comics and WoW it's implied she's half draenei.
(Especially they comics, because she has the iconic glowing eyes.)
>>70691644
You would need:
1: Rated R
2: Big budget for effects
3: Body builders who are good actors
Never gonna happen.
So Lothar is King now. Doesn't that mean he has to marry his sister? Also, why is she his sister and obviously not white like he is?
>>70699380
>it makes the hobbit look like fucking trash
That's not saying much.
But it is pretty damn great.
>>70702303
He's King Regent till Varian is old enough.
>>70702256
>Lothar also dies in the Second War to Doomhammer.
not going to happen in movie two now since Ogrim's left the Horde. reckon Garona will do it instead or they end up together and close the portal from the other side with Khadgar. Alleria and Turalyon will probably have reduced roles or play second fiddle to Garona and Lothar.
>>70688068
Diablo is really cool... I want to see one of those movies.
warcraft is the best.
WC2>diablo2>starcraft brood war
they're all good, i just played them the most in that order
>>70702304
It says a lot considering that LoTR is considered "serious" fantasy, when warcraft which everyone though would be a joyless cashgrab managed to captivate me more than a peter jackson film. It's really great, it has flaws, but it's strengths shine brightly.
>>70702345
>Alleria and Turalyon will probably have reduced roles or play second fiddle to Garona and Lothar.
Alleria was in the front row of Llane's funeral. I could see them focusing on her more, especially as a counterpart to Zul'jin if they include the Quel'thalas campaign in the next movie
>>70702303
There's no origins for blacks in WoW, they just are. Presumably they're like gingers or albinos.
>>70701939
remember mortal kombat the game based on the movie that was based off the game? it was great
>>70702303
He's not the actual king, Varian is but since Varian is a child Lothar will do the job for a moment
next movie starts with varian and arthas sparring in lordaeron while teenage thrall is having a rocky training montage in durnholde
The sequel is going to have so much potential if they don't fuck it up
>Stormwind still needs to be sacked
>Zul'jin, Alleria, Gorefiend, etc. all get a chance to finally get some spotlight
>Naval battles
>Dalaran mages
>Death Knights coming into existence, wrecking shit and raising skeletons from the dead
>Dragons
>Doomhammer vs Lothar
>Tomb of Sargeras
>Khadgar nuking the portal
>Draenor exploding
>>70702782
this. They managed to make the most generic fantasy story ever made an 8/10, when they're adapting a story with actual effort put into it, it'll be crazy
>Cho'gall leading a bunch of ogre-magi against the Silver Hand
>>70702782
How are they gonna turn Khadgar into an old man when they blew their chance in this movie?
>>70702866
Well I mean he leaves Khadgar mere seconds after they glassed Medivh.
Could be delayed effects from the pool.
>>70686918
As a fan of the games, I find the beginning to be quite jarring and a poor setup for the rest of the movie. The scenes with humans are quite palatable, and would make sense even to people that don't know Warcraft as they follow basic fantasy conventions (here's people, here's their king, here's some magic, here's some dwarves), but the opening scene was much too fast paced. The minimal narration does not do enough to alleviate the suddenness or properly set up the orcs and their motivations. The interactions between Kadgar and Medivh are also strange and out of place. The changes to Garona are fucking stupid. She's supposed to be Guldan's ace in the hole, one last victory in his failed campaign. Also, Varian is supposed to witness his father's death if I'm not mistaken. A very important part of his characterization, and helps set solidify the conflict between alliance and horde. Lets not even get started on Doomhammer and Blackhand. Overall, I enjoyed this movie despite the strange pacing and weird decisions. It really only gets better from here as far as sequels go since the later games improve greatly in writing, and Blizzard would be fools not to follow up.
>>70701501
But Ner'zhul was there, only for like "blink and you will miss him" moment a couple of times. He was that one with skull drawn on his face, less bulky in build, standing always slightly behind the big hitters like Grom, Kilrogg and Kargath.
>>70702367
Well I see your point.
It's probably just that I'm one of those faggots who hates every Peter Jackson Tolkien adaptation with a passion.I mean don't get me wrong, they are really impressive in a lot of departments, and I will defend them on the grounds of music, cinematography and costume design. I just hate them for their approach to the legendarium.
Still, it's not a good sign when the main concern of critics is how "refined" the source material is, rather than what the mission statement is, and how they accomplish it.
>>70702866
they seem to be making lore changes.
Medivh is Garonas father now
Orgrim is a frostwolf
Dalaran is always floating
part of the horde is left on draenor
Stormwind wasnt sacked in this movie
>>70703276
>part of the horde is left on draenor
that always happened. Grom didn't even cross until after the Second War already ended
>does good in china
gee, I wonder why
can someone share some webms of this movie?
>>70703421
>Anastarian
>Alleria
>Lor'themar
I'm hyped
>>70703276
>>70703354
Holy shit, you fucking nerds.
>>70686918
This movie was fucking terrible.
>>70687539
In the actual lore the orcs drink the blood of the demon Mannoroth to become stronger. Gul'Dan never tells them about how corrupting it is and how it makes them slaves to the Legion. Eventually they figure it out but it's too late. Gul'Dan rules the Horde through fear.
>>70703586
>tfw being forced to see it with friends
>tfw they don't even play WoW
>>70686918
Are there any cinemas without a no singles policy showing this?
>>70703795
Prepare for them to have no idea what's actually going on and for you (if you know the lore) to be mad as fuck about how they intentionally butchered it to make less sense.
>>70703421
there was also that asian stormwind guard (where anduin lothar freaks out and is sent to jail)
>>70703421
>>70704051
Gul'dan was Asian
I watched it with a friend who had never played WoW, he said it was pretty good albeit the ending was a bit unsatisfying.
>>70703852
It's a Warcraft movie m8, if there were no singles policies they wouldn't make a cent
>>70703276
>Medivh is Garonas father now
not confirmed
>Orgrim is a frostwolf
if they introduced too many clans it would get even more dense
>Dalaran is always floating
I'll give you that one
>part of the horde is left on draenor
this happened
>Stormwind wasnt sacked in this movie
This isn't even a change. Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it isn't going to.
>>70703586
Why? I thought it was pretty good, 7/10.
>>70686918
im just now picturing a poor chinese child farmer that was sold into slavery to a wow gold mining company eventually making enough to afford some living arrangement that mantains with his 20 roomates by farming 18 hours a day getting out of work in one of his few only free days going to the movies to watch this
>>70704317
Because its almost entirely pointless exposition broken up with emotionless battle sequences. They should have left the story as it was originally and made it 30 minutes longer.
The movie was good /tv/ was wrong again.
The only downside is with the video game movie curse broken a lot of shit will be green lit.
>>70704403
>pointless exposition
But everyone's complaining that there's no exposition.
>emotionless battle sequences
But Durotan and Gul'dan's fight was the best part of the movie. The ambush fight was good too.
>>70704290
Medvih is her father. In the book, he thanks his steward for giving him time with his daughter, just before he walks into the pool and turns full possessed. An anon posted a screenshot from the book a while back, sadly I don't have it here on my phone. But yeah, apparently he is. Guess he traveled to Draenor and hung out with some orc girl before the story started.
>>70704290
Medivh is her father according to the movie novel. That part right before he kills Moroes? Theres a line dropped, he says "thank you letting me see my daughter."
One weird addition was Varian has a sister now. Maybe she gets killed in the Stormwind savking and he and his mother flee with Lothar to Lordaeron. That fuels his hatred more than his fathers death. Especially since his father told him to protect them.
It was a nice touch seeing most clan chiefs. Seeing Kargath made me giggle, but i was happy he and Grom were shown to be rithless assholes.
Also dem elves, I look forward to a Windrunner sisters intro next movie. And paladins! And dragons! Ah shit Im getting hype again.
Holy fucking shit that ending.
Watched it yesterday.
This movie is okay for the typical moviegoer who doesn't know about warcraft and it's great for somebody who knows about it and that's basically the main problem with it.
The reason for this is that movie is missing about 20-30 minutes of extra screen time to more adequately set up the context of the movie and to develop the characters some more. I really loved it when I recognized Grom Hellscream in the background. I also perfectly understood everything that was happening around Medivh and his inner struggle with Sargaeras. However other people are going to be scratching their heads a bit.
All this translates into problems with pacing and editing. Some scenes feel forced like the movie is making large leaps in the story. I'm really hoping that what they said about the special edition being 40 minutes longer is true and we get to see it.
They also changed a lot of the story elements which doesn't bother me since adaptations are like that but it does screw up some the character dynamics going forward.
The CGI orks were frankly really great. Although I have a bit of a problem with them being way too big compared to the regular humans. Orks were always bigger and stronger but not to such a degree that their fists are as big as half a human. The magic was also done pretty good.
Overall, I found it a lot better than Apocalypse and I would love to see a sequel.
>>70705327
I share your sentiment anon. For a lot of people I know that watched it, who know nothing about Warcraft, the movie was fun and enjoyable. Gripping even. A good number of them also said they liked Medivh a lot and the twist of him turning out possessed was quite loved. A lot of people here complain how normal moviegoer would not understand the movie, but that's crap. It's easy to understand and follow. Certainly could use more time to flesh out characters, but as a first Warcraft movie it was great.
Loved my man Grom in the background, even if he didn't speak.
Goddamnit, /tv/ REALLY could use /pol/'s poster codes in order to fish out obvious shills.
>>70705531
agreed. they came out to talk shit back when pacific rim came out. it was insane, every other thread was like, GUERMO BTFO FAILURE WONT SEQUEL FLOP FOR SURE LOLZ
>>70687119
>DCucks STILL buttblasted about Hollywood accounting
Top kek
>>70698714
you do get they only get a portion of the cash you pay in cinemas?
The movie was decent. I never played any warcraft and still could follow the story, the actors were nice, the orcs were cool as shit... I Dont know why you twats hate on it so much
>>70706322
>I have nothing in common with this franchise. seriously!
>Yet I still hate the guts of all those opposed to it!
Blizzdrone please go and stay go.
>>70698771
>12% RT score
>critics matter when the general audience eats it up
>>70698771
>some industry sources say
>>70701475
He found out about fel magic somehow. keeping on the same stretch we can assume he found them both with the same journey
>>70703421
>Appear on screen in a small cameo
>REEEEEE CHINKS IN MY WHITE MOVIE
>>70692717
>Filthy chinks cant grasp the idea of a civil war but they revel at the idea of invading other lands since the dark magic that made them stronger killed off all the plants and animals in their country of origin
makes sense to me
>>70706713
Does it mean that sequels might tank as soon as Chinese figure out that the first Horde is destined to lose its second war against the humans?
>>70686918
this movie sucks so bad, I stopped watching 1 hour into it
bleh
Anyone got the webm of the retarded green baby creature?
>>70706892
The horde just has to pollute the land even more to attain even greater power. Enter the Forsaken
Warcraft becomes TRUE KINO when watched in black & white.
Special blu-ray kino edition WHEN?
I refuse to believe that Wanda, legendary, universal, blizzard and the various other companies all agreed to make a video game movie based on a franchise past its prime and invest so much capital in it to need 500m to BREAK EVEN. what a load of shit, not even an addicted gambler would throw away money at odds like that, nvm a business
>>70707438
whos ass are you blowing out of to get 500m. cite your sources
>>70706713
>chinks cant grasp the idea of a civil war
t. American debating chinese history.
Your lack of knowledgeability is showing anon.
>>70707438
>a franchise past its prime
The general population doesn't know anything about warcraft beyond "it's that game nerds are playing all day"
Shit, captain america was first conceived in 1941 and shit's still going strong.
>>70707562
There have been several box office articles citing 450-500m figures;
http://deadline.com/2016/06/warcraft-conjuring-2-now-you-see-me-2-weekend-box-office-1201770307/
http://www.ibtimes.com/warcraft-us-box-office-crushing-expectations-despite-bad-reviews-video-game-movie-2380914
Saw it today.
Apparently critics are tearing into this thing and the movie isn't selling well in the US. I hear China loved it though.
Can't say I was a fan of the film but the critic reviews seem too extreme. The writing was bad, the acting was often awkward, the CGI orcs looked weird with the humans when they weren't fighting, and the plot felt more like it was focused on checking off bullet points rather than building a narrative. That said, the story was still coherent, the special effects were all polished, and there were plenty of action scenes. Felt like a solid 6/10.
The changes they made from WC1 and 2 didn't seem that well thought out. WC1 barely had a plot and most of the franchise's early fluff was fleshed out in WC2 so the movie tries to be a mix of both, but then missed the big point of WC1 which was the orcs sacking Stormwind and moving up north. I don't give a shit about it deviating from the source material since the movie is its own story but this change results in there being no real conclusion to the movie. When the big "Warcraft" logo appeared on the end I almost thought it was a joke due to how sudden it was.
tl;dr Can't call it awful, can't call it great, can't call it faithful but it was never meant to be that anyways, and so far I also can't say that it will be successful enough to warrant a sequel unless China carries the sales hard.
I went in thinking they should've just made the first movie WC3. After coming out I can say that's even truer now, everything they tried to do in this movie would've worked far better with the Arthas story.
>>70703778
yea but i think they didn't want to add to many characters or demons etc to confuse people. i mean if there gonna wanna make it sell they had to change the story.
i personaly thought it was prety dec apart from mediev i didnt like him much nor the younger wizard much but w/e.
>>70707768
they would of completely ruined arthas if they rushed his story and did him straight away, if they build to it and do it properly with illidan etc it will make them shit loads of money
>>70698771
And yet here we are eight fucking Fast and Furious movies into the series and they're all cheesy as shit. Critics are only a tool used to HELP GET SALES, if the audience is hyped enough around a movie they don't fucking matter.
>>70707917
WC3's human campaign just screams "make a movie out of me!"
You've got big, flashy, and dramatic cinematics that are begging to be redone with high budget CGI (imagine the movie ending on the Arthas betrayal scene), a very tight knit cast of characters to focus on (Uther, Arthas, Jaina, Kel'Thuzad, Muradin, Mal'Ganis), a romance subplot, themes of honor, duty, revenge, etc., and more than enough material to make a trilogy off of. I also guarantee the movie would've made even more money in China due to the amount of dota characters that would've appeared in the movie. The foreign market would gobble it up.
>>70707945
Cheesy they may be, but they are coherent normie bait that doesn't require autistic levels of lore knowledge of a dying game franchise to enjoy.
>>70686918
as a Marvel movie loving faggot, I thoroughly enjoyed this movie.
I'm glad it's doing well.
I hope it does well enough to warrant enough sequels to get to Arthas.
>>70698231
You best believe im hype
warcraft, starcraft, diablo
i would be fine with a blizzardverse
>>70705327
>>70705464
That's because Movie Studies are the devil and should be....HOLD ON, APOLOGIES, calling Movie Studio execs the Devil Insults Satan. And he being a glorious one, even as our destroyer, would be speaking abusively of him and I don't have the right to do that and for that I am sorry and humbly apologize. May God Correct Satan. Sadly, there's no one here who can correct Studio Execs in especially that bitch Amy the dyke cunt bitch of Sony; the bitch behind the atrocity that was Jobs and Ghost Busters. What a stupid dyke she is.
>>70708387
I was annoyed about how they treated Teron later on, like he was some random shadow council member that got put in a death knight.
In wc2 the manual said he was an ancient orc spirit. Wasn't even sure at that point if Gul'Dan was the one who raised him.
Thought he had been dead for a really long time anyways, made him more interesting to me. Like centuries ago there was a Ner'Zhul/Gul'Dan tier orc that died, and then got a chance to come back.
>>70701501
Lore wise Grom stayed behind during the first war.
He was in the movie though, just never named
>>70702211
They made Orgrim a frostwolf instead of a blackrock
They changed the circumstances of garona assasinating Llane (which i liked, the original "gul'dan just cast mind control on her" was stupid)
Because of the above, garona was not present in the raid on kharazan
No mention of the shadow council, gul'dan played a more active leadership role in the movie (in lore he and his warlocks controlled everything from behind the scenes through blackhand)
Lothar killing blackhand instead of Orgrim (so they'll need a new way to make Orgrim warchief)
Gul'Dan not in a coma after Medivh's death
Changed the death of Durotan & Draka, for the better. Originally were killed by Gul'Dan's spies after a meeting with Orgrim to talk about what a dick Gul'Dan was
>>70708037
>WC3's human campaign just screams "make a movie out of me!"
Yeah, but it requires too much context from the other campaigns. In the Human campaign of WC3 Arthas becomes corrupt but then there's a whole separate campaign that deals with him helping to bring the Legion to Azeroth. Then inevitably you have to deal with Illidan and the fall of Archimonde. Even when you're dine with that you still can't focus properly on Arthas since you have to deal with Illidan's bullshit on Draenor all before you can set up the showdown with Arthas and get him to become the Lich King.
I could see it working as a cinematic universe akin to Marvel but there's no way you can do it as a standalone movie.
Well, I guess we get to find out if vydiakino is going to be a thing.
>>70709035
Orgrim also beat up gul'dan and killed all the other warlocks
so theres still a way for him to be warchief
>Murloc
>Meeting stone
>Khadgar levels up
>Fishing lure
>Grom, Kargath, Killrogg
Did I miss any easter eggs?
I think the best part of the Warcraft movie, review wise, is that so many of the reviewers comment that this movie was clearly made for the fans, as many characters are not properly fleshed out. This is of course an assumption made believing that the characters of the film are known to the fans. With the reality being that many of the characters arent well known with the fans, and those that are, where changed so much from what they were that they aren't the same character.
Is there anything good about this movie? Who the hell was it made for? It wasnt made for newcomcers, it sure as shit wasnt made for fans.
>>70709307
Duel Flag
>>70709320
People like me that know enough about the lore to understand the characters and locations but not enough to get annoyed at the changes.
>>70709307
There was a troll sketch in one of Khadgar's research papers.
>>70709320
I was a newcomer and I liked it. It definitely had flaws, but the characters were understandable and the politicking was great. And I know jackshit about Warcraft lore.
>>70709307
>>Meeting stone
Where was that?
I'll have to go rewatch it
I only really saw the murloc and the other orcs.
>>70709307
The opening scene is in many ways similar to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f96hKqkY_Y
They just cut it short-.
>>70709507
In Elwynn Forest when it pans around
>>70706915
You watched the shit part, and skipped the awesome part.
if Legendary is smart, they'll cast Fan BingBing(pic related) as Sylvanas.
>>70709576
This, exactly. The opening is a reference to Warcraft 3.
Many Highlander references, btw.
One of my issues with the movie was the sound track.
It just didn't feel warcrafty.
I'm surprised they didn't even use some of the tracks from the games.
>>70709320
>They played a remix of the World of Warcraft theme in the credits of the movie.
Take a guess.
>>70702211
>I thought Lothar, Khadgar and friends fight them back through the portal and get trapped there, or is that after the events of the movie?
Naeh.
>First War
>Azeroth vs Blackhand/Doomhammers Horde influenced by Gul'Dans Shadow Council
Horde wins, Stormwind is sacked.
>Second War
>7 human nations+elves+dwarves+gnomes vs like 7 horde clans+amani trolls+goblins+ogres
Alliance wins and Khadgar destroys the portal, but the rift remains.
>Invasion of Draenor
>Ner'Zhuls horde vs Alliance
Ends with khadgar sealing the portal to azeroth from draenor and draenor getting "destroyed" by ner'zhuls multiple portals.
The movie is actually perfectly ok, so Im glad its doing fine. Sure some acting performances werent the best, but most people seems to like the movie and Im one of them.
how the hell are they gonna start the 2nd one when the portal is closed?
Are they gonna capture jungletrolls or Darkiron dwarfs instead?
>>70686918
Watched it with a bunch of friends not expecting much but was pleasently surprised. The orcs felt cool as hell and I'm honestly looking forward to the inevitable sequel unlike with star wars or Most cape movies(tho captain America 3 was awesome).
>>70709864
I fear that this result was inevitable before even the first shot of this movie has been made.
Minds behind Warcraft franchise have long become centered around World of Warcraft, which means that observation of WoW games and community can tell you a lot regarding anything that is consulted with Blizzard's WoW team.
When WoW's core zones have been remade from scratch in Cataclysm, any previous storylines regarding these areas were elaborated upon without leaving a hint as to what elapsed earlier. It was as if Blizzard's devs assumed that they would be making these changes only for those who were sitting in their customerbase since day one while simultaneously WoW's big hope was to attract new players who had no such previous experience.
I can't tell whether this is a result of target group calculation or downright arrogance.
>>70703421
I think you mean it "does WELL in China".
>>70686918
Why do the chinks love this so much? I would have expected this from the gooks.
I liked it a lot. Was it perfect? Not at all but it was way better than I expected it to be. 7-8/10.
>>70709864
The thing is, if they had just made a World of Warcraft movie, rather than one based on lore most players dont know about, it would have done a lot better.
>>70710338
Considering Cata was launched around the height of the games popularity, it was arrogance.
>>70691778
>Talked to the Naaru
That was Aegwynn, in the box.
>>70691778
>>70710670
>Naaru
my first thoughts aswell
>Aegwynn
I know i good chunk of WoW lore and I had to look Alodi up to see wtf Khadgar spoke too
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Alodi
>>70710729
This whole rewrite just seemed so unnecessary and out of place.
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>>70686918
It needs 500 million $ to break even, forget any profits.
Honestly, the only part of the movie that needed more time in the oven was the black floaty box
My wife has ZERO warcraft knowledge and she understood everything just fine except for wtf was the deal with the black box
>>70710846
As are most Warcraft rewrites.
>>70710934
Black floaty box?
>>70710999
Alodi
The balck floaty box in Dalaran
>>70710934
To be fair that isn't in warcraft lore anywhere.
I honestly have no idea where it came from
>no place in the lore
>entire made up
>shoed into a film that was way too long
>character is Elodi, a male elf who died in thousands of years ago in the lore
>in the movie it's an old human woman who for some reason lives in the Shadow Realm
None of it makes sense. Why not just have Aegwynn, Medivh's mother who actually is an old human woman who is alive, give the exposition?
>>70710934
Even if you do know anything about Warcraft lore that black box made zero sense. It honestly felt like it was part of a different screenplay that was scrapped but they forgot to cut this scene.
>>70709307
>>Khadgar levels up
What, that got an actual effect? I totally missed that somehow.
>>70711084
>shoed into a film that was way too long
If anything to movie needed those extra 40 minutes that were supposedly cut to help set up the world and characters better. Here's strongly hoping for a directors cut.
>>70711084
Dont forget most people wont know who Alodi is till Legion since he's only appeared in low selling manga.
>>70711191
That's what I meant. The movie was so long that it needed important sections cut, but they kept that completely out of place scene?
>>70711200
He's mentioned in Chronicle, but you're right
>>70711154
When he cleanses the Fel from Mideivh. It's easy to miss in all the special effects, but it does the gold beam and level up sound from WC3/WoW
>>70711341
That's baller as fuck.
Honestly, I already quite liked the movie and it's been ages since I touched anything Warcraft related. The easter eggs seem very well done.
Could've done without the son and romance subplots, though.
So I saw the movie last night and I have to be honest... As someone who loves the Warcraft series, the movie kind of sucked.
The effects were great, as was the action, but the story was just god awful.
The king was a terrible actor. Probably the worst I've ever seen. I don't know how the hell he got the job and how they let that slide.
Lothar flying into a huge crowd of horde on a gryphon, he's fucking slaughtering orcs left and right and so is his gryphon, but the orcs just stand there. Then Blackhand challenges him to Mak'gora.
Admittedly, the Mak'gora was a great addition. And it had to be used another time so everyone understood it, but the first time they used it, Gul'dan cheated and killed Durotan. The orcs get pissed off, Gul'dan drains the life of 3 (FUCKING THREE OUT OF HUNDREDS) of them, and then they all of a sudden obey again. What the fuck?
Garona was immediately trusted as soon as they took her captive. On top of that, she didn't even get controlled when she killed the king.
One thing I think they did very well were the spells. Spell casting was exactly how it should have been, not incredibly powerful instantaneously.
Another thing they did well was the language barrier. Though the idea that Garona could learn English in a matter of a couple weeks (or was it even shorter than that?) just from listening to prisoners talk is laughable.
Look, if you are a fan of Warcraft, it's worth seeing for the effects and seeing everything on the big screen alone. But the story is awful and the movie jumps around so god damn much. You can tell they cut a lot from it.
>>70711084
My only problem with the black box scene was giving magic lady green glowing eyes. As somebody who knows jackshit about Warcraft lore, the only good/evil division I can latch onto were the "green is bad, blue is good" magic colors. So when this mysterious magical character says "Kill the good guy!" and her eyes turn green... I was reading it as deception/trickery.
>>70711429
>Though the idea that Garona could learn English in a matter of a couple weeks (or was it even shorter than that?) just from listening to prisoners talk is laughable.
Garona has always been a magical plot device to fix things that can't work out any other way
>>70711504
>A wizard did it
>>70711429
The horrible pacing is probably my biggest complaint and I liked the movie. I'm very knowledgeable with Warcraft lore and even I thought they were throwing way too much at the audience way too quick.
Which is a shame considering the very first scene gives you a sense that they're going to take it slow and build up each character.
>>70711545
>that worgen sneaking up to belf ass
bueno
>>70711429
>The orcs get pissed off, Gul'dan drains the life of 3 (FUCKING THREE OUT OF HUNDREDS) of them, and then they all of a sudden obey again. What the fuck?
Did you miss one of the first fucking scenes were he drained the life out of hundreds/thousands? Gul'dan rules by fear, and he just reminded everyone why he ruled.
Your points on the acting and the way they instantly trust Garona are fair, though.
But I do like the fact that the king decided to let himself get killed, so Garona could live and even serve as a possible spy. The mind control king killing always felt super cheap to me.
>Grom not having any lines
I mean come on.
>>70711429
Honestly, anon, most of your issues are bullshit.
The actor playing the king is a great actor. The issue is that they chose to play the king as friendly and not magnanimous. It kinda worked, but in some scenes it didn't.
Gul'dan has a shitload of power and the orcs rever/fear him. That's evident throughout the movie. So when he kills three orcs with a flick of his fingers... it makes sense that they fall in line.
Garona was a prisoner before the humans got to her. She was cooperative and submissive from the start. And the decision to trust her was public positioning by the king, so the others followed. And they still spent a shitload of timing exploring the trust issues with her.
I actually liked that it "jumped around so god damn much". It gave the movie a political feel with each side positioning and jockeying for power or strategy. I'm guessing you wanted a straight-forward, human-side-only action movie. But that would have been mediocre at best.
I'm not trying to be a dick, anon, but it seems like you wanted a generic pleb action movie with Warcraft surface paint.
>>70711615
he shouldn't even be there
>>70711434
I understood it as if she was also influenced by the "Fel", or whatever it was.
So she secluded herself in the black box, so she wouldn't be a danger or something. Hence why she was the one that had so much information of the "Fel" and lead the young mage to discover Medihv's bullshit.
>>70711589
>But I do like the fact that the king decided to let himself get killed, so Garona could live and even serve as a possible spy. The mind control king killing always felt super cheap to me.
True, it does allow her to be in the story more, but it removes the sadness if Yogg'Saran ever makes it into the movies. I doubt they will go that far though.
>Did you miss one of the first fucking scenes were he drained the life out of hundreds/thousands? Gul'dan rules by fear, and he just reminded everyone why he ruled.
I understand that, but the orcs are supposed to be a race of honor. There was no honor in how he defeated Durotan, nor was there honor in pissing yourself and falling back in line. They totally dropped the ball there.
And Gul'dan couldn't have killed "everyone" because he needs them. Else he would have killed Lothar at the end.
I also suspect that he needed Medivh to start the portal to actually be able to drain thousands of souls.
>>70711655
Why wouldnt he be? He was one of the first to drink the blood of Mannoroth in the original story and hes still the chieftan of the Warsong Clan
>>70707768
>no real conclusion to the movie
>>70707768
>this change results in there being no real conclusion to the movie
>They mention the horde coming through the portal and not being able to stop them then, like 10 times.
>The portal is closed at the end and the horde is stopped.
Gee, /tv/ sure knows how to analyze a movie.
>>70711669
I feel like she was originally meant to be Aegwynn (Medivh's mom) but maybe an exec thought Alodi sounded better or something. I wonder if Metzen will ever explain why he let this stuff pass. But then again its Metzen.
>>70711692
Grom didn't leave Draenor until after the Second War when Ner'zhul formed his own Horde to escape
>>70711684
>I understand that, but the orcs are supposed to be a race of honor
I see this stated so much, and it kind of irks me.
Because while it's technically true, as the best of them are, there are soooo many instances of Orcs forgoing honor out of personal gain or fear that it doesn't feel like a defining trait of the race at all anymore.
>>70711742
Oh shit you're right.
>>70711692
Grom and the warsong clan didn't come into Azeroth until Ner'Zhul went into azeroth.
So even after the 2nd war when orgrim had lost.
>>70707768
Has there ever been a movie where CGI looks great with live action people in the same shot?
I mean, how on earth would you portray an Orc without CGI being used? Or what about other races when they're eventually introduced, lake Tauren and Trolls?
>>70711618
Or you've convinced yourself the movie is better than it really is.
I mean the majority think its mediocre to garbage. But they're all wrong, aren't they.
>>70711741
You're talking as if Metzen would remember who Aegwynn is.
>>70711741
Metzen don't care, baby. Metzen never cared.
>>70711618
>The actor playing the king is a great actor.
I would be surprised if anyone agrees with you. It was terrible. Zero emotion, mostly just standing around stone faced speaking very monotone.
>Gul'dan has a shitload of power and the orcs rever/fear him. That's evident throughout the movie. So when he kills three orcs with a flick of his fingers... it makes sense that they fall in line.
And yet they didn't when Lothar walked away.
>Garona was a prisoner before the humans got to her. She was cooperative and submissive from the start. And the decision to trust her was public positioning by the king, so the others followed. And they still spent a shitload of timing exploring the trust issues with her.
Still not good story telling. She did very little to warrant the freedom she got. In fact, the first time the king meets her she is basically walking free.
>I actually liked that it "jumped around so god damn much". It gave the movie a political feel with each side positioning and jockeying for power or strategy. I'm guessing you wanted a straight-forward, human-side-only action movie. But that would have been mediocre at best.
And I am guessing you have the attention span of a rodent. That was probably one of the worst parts of the movie, and very, very few people will agree with you on that.
>>70711760
>Because while it's technically true, as the best of them are, there are soooo many instances of Orcs forgoing honor out of personal gain or fear that it doesn't feel like a defining trait of the race at all anymore.
It's not for the most part, but that was what the movie build them on. There were too many areas where they were honorable and then weren't all of a sudden. They should have went one way or the other with it IMO.
>>70711826
Funny I've seen the majority say its actually pretty good.
>>70711545
Why is that fan art so comfy
>>70711550
In the context of the movie, green = bad and blue = good. That's heavy themeing/exposition used throughout which lead to my confusion.
>>70711669
That's a possibility, and I would be fine with that if it was dropped in a line or two. There was a hint of something sinister going on but I read it more as trickery than self-quarantine.
>>70711872
This desu
>>70711760
>there are soooo many instances of Orcs forgoing honor out of personal gain or fear that it doesn't feel like a defining trait of the race at all anymore.
It's almost like they aren't one-dimentional and have actual depth
>>70711860
Anon, I don't think that anyone expected these actors to give oscar-winning performances.
>>70711742
So what's the deal with the portal? In WC2 it was always opened, and I don't know if they really mentioned it in WC1. How is it going to be opened again?
>>70706588
>well thought, passionate, film buffs hate it
>HeeHaw retards love it
Yeah, not sure who I'd believe.
>>70711655
He was there. Just didn't do anything important.
>>70711918
I didn't, but the king was THAT bad.
Everyone else was fine. Literally everyone.
>>70711920
Yeah they're going at it in a very different way here.
Where it needs to be fueled.
In wc1-2 it was more of an issue of turning it off.
>>70711932
>well thought, passionate, film buffs
Good one anon.
>>70711920
Cho'Gall probably
>>70711860
>but that was what the movie build them on
I never got that feeling.
They put a lot of value in their traditions, sure. And there were Orcs that spoke of honor, absolutely.
But the entire race was following Gul'dan, mostly out of fear, and rarely acted honorably.
I never once got the impression most Orcs put a lot of stock in honor, at all. Traditions, maybe, but even those were ignored when convenient.
>>70711959
That leads me to think that we won't see "Beyond the Dark Portal."
>>70711934
>He was there. Just didn't do anything important.
In the movie.
>>70687119
>G-guys it will need to make 6 trillions for a sequel r-right?
You are so desperate, it's sad to read you.
Learn to enjoy your life instead of desperatly hope for others to fail
>>70711826
I'd give a solid 7 out of 10. It's not perfect by any means, but it definitely doesn't deserve the shit reviews that it is getting. If I do have a bias, it's that I at least appreciate that it didn't make the same mistakes/tread the same formula as most modern blockbusters.
>>70711860
I think the young guardian bro had the worse acting. He was sitcom-tier and not bringing enough film-centric focus to the role.
As for the editing, I will admit there were parts in which continuous scenes were cut in half by a different scene. But for the most part the editing helped to keep the movie constantly going forward and gave it a great sense of simultaneous actions by many different characters across the whole continent. Add-in the flying mounts and the whole movie gets a very grandiose feel that spans a shitload of setting.
>>70711907
>It's almost like they aren't one-dimentional and have actual depth
Completely agreed, which is why calling an entire race honorable seems misguided to me.
>>70712024
>I think the young guardian bro had the worse acting. He was sitcom-tier and not bringing enough film-centric focus to the role.
Yeah he was annoying.
I loved Medivh though.
Liked Lothar.
>>70711999
And in the lore
>>70711932
What about having your own opinion?
>>70711872
In China?
So since when does Gul'Dan lift?
>>70711891
Agreed, it could use some more attention, for sure.
I fully believed the shadow hanging around the books was some sinister being connected to the portal, but after seeing how the woman could open the cube at will and seemed pained/ashamed of her "green magic" I just speculated she exiled herself while still guarding the world somehow.
The fact that I had to speculate so much about that is bullshit, though.
>>70711920
Cho'gall will reopen it with ogre sorcery and come through with the Twilight's Hammer and the rest of the Horde
>>70703778
maybe demon blood will come next
this was only the first war, there's still tides of darkness to go through before getting to Thrall's spotlight
>>70712079
>second in power to only Alexstrasza herself
lol, they sure fucked that one up later
>>70712024
>I think the young guardian bro had the worse acting. He was sitcom-tier and not bringing enough film-centric focus to the role.
Khadgar? We never really got to know him in WC2, so I am basing what I expected him to be like off of the recent WoW expansions. He acted very similarly, or at least I thought.
>As for the editing, I will admit there were parts in which continuous scenes were cut in half by a different scene. But for the most part the editing helped to keep the movie constantly going forward and gave it a great sense of simultaneous actions by many different characters across the whole continent. Add-in the flying mounts and the whole movie gets a very grandiose feel that spans a shitload of setting.
I agree of the flying and stuff, but there were so many silly issues with that.
For instance, it was pretty much the primary mode of traveling, yet teleporting was shown numerous times. The only time teleportation was used was when it was convenient to speed the story up, and then not used to conveniently slow the story down. They should have mentioned limitations of that.
To be honest, I watched a bunch of the clips that were posted online in another language before the movie, the video that had the Orgrim/Durotan talking moment, Garona and the king, Khadgar slammed by Medivh, and I felt like I was just watching a mishmash of clips put together. It didn't "feel" like a story. It was like a bunch of cut scenes thrown together to make a movie.
There is a line for jumping around, and they crossed it very early on.
Watched it last night.
Worst part of the movie by far. I hated this fucker, he was completely miscast.
Did I miss a big part of the romance subplot?
I see a lot of people bringing it up as a gripe, but it hardly got any attention at all.
The two scenes decicated to it were Medihv's story about journeying and finding love (and that scene had another purpose entirely) and the scene in which Garona tries to console Lothar after his son died, in which Lothat basically pushed her away and the romance got dropped entirely.
Garona also mentioned the young mage looked like he wanted her as a partner, does that also count as a romance subplot?
>>70712178
Not necessarily. IIRC, he tricked the others into giving part of their power to the Dragon artifact (was it called the Dragon Soul?)
They would have messed with the timing though.
>>70712296
Romance seem to be rushed with a lot of whatever romance things occurred hidden in small time skips as they got closer somehow.
>Garona also mentioned the young mage looked like he wanted her as a partner, does that also count as a romance subplot?
She was just fucking with him
So who dies in this movie?
Lothar?
Durotan?
Draka?
Medivh?
Llane?
His nig wife?
>>70701589
>Elite Tauren Chieftans shredding it like no tomorrow in the background
PLEASE KINO GODS.
>>70712386
>His wife?
No.
You missed Blackhand though.
>>70712386
>Durotan?
>Draka?
>Medivh?
>Llane?
They die.well medivh sorta maybe
>>70712350
The point was that it was so minor, that it could hardlt register as a complaint.
The one line of Garona fucking with Khadgar carried as much weight as the entire romance subplot.
Sure, it could've been scrapped and the movie would've been exactly the same, but it's not like it took up any screentime or attention at all.
>>70700921
The directors cut is gonna be huge. I think they said 40 minutes.
>>70712462
That's ridiculous and stupid.
That means we basically paid money to watch a beta.
>>70712570
thanks for beta testing normies
we get the definitive edition with torrents
>>70712570
No, we paid to see a cut down version because studios are fucking retarded faggots
>>70712094
Since fel nigga, it makes you strong as fuck, that's why he had the physical advantage over Durotan
>>70712737
>that's why he had the physical advantage over Durotan
Well, when he started putting magic behind his punches, sure.
So D Jones has said in an interview that he wants to do a trilogy about the orcs finding their home in Azeroth.
2nd movie:
>starts with the fall of SW
>Queen dies
>humans flee to Lordaeron
>Alleria and turalyon introduction
>meanwhile cuts to Thrall being raised as a gladiator
>Orgrim and Garona team up to overthrow Gul'dan
>gul'dan sent back through the dark portal
>final battle orcs lose (because no Gul'dan)
>Lothar dies
>all orcs captured
3rd movie:
>Thrall breaks orcs out with the help of old Orgrim
>Orgrim dies and passes on Doomhammer
>Khadgar, Alleria and Turalyon go through portal to close it on the other side
>Other side is run by Gul'dan with demons and orcs everywhere
>Ghost Medivh tells Thrall to go to Kalimdor
>Orcs meet Tauren, form Orgrimmar and finally find peace
>Gul'dan tries to open lots of portals, ends up going through and being captured by Sargeras (becomes Lich king in place of Ner'zhul)
>Khadgar, Alleria and Turalyon manage to close the portal for good, but are stuck on the other side
D Jones also said that after his trilogy he wants to pass the mantle on to another director.
So let the Arthas story be another trilogy done by a director who can write humans better.
>>70713173
>>Gul'dan tries to open lots of portals, ends up going through and being captured by Sargeras (becomes Lich king in place of Ner'zhul)
They can't do that. Gul'dan is supposed to die at the tomb of Sargeras where Illidan takes his skull and gains it's power. Without that they completely change Illidan's story AND Arthas' story. Ner'zhul will be introduced in the second movie and we will get much more on the Burning Legion and their motives.
>>70713348
>They can't do that
Yes they can... there are bigger lore changes in the first movie. And it really doesn't change Illidan's or Arthas' story much.
Illidan could get his powers from any random demonic mcguffin, and it means nothing to Arthas who the orc who became the Lich King was.
>>70713469
>>70713173
Which reminds me, was it ever explained why the skull of gul'dan was in felwood in the first place? Who took it there from the tomb?
>>70713643
Tichondrius probably picked it up after Draenor shattered
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