Is it ever coming out?
Avatar 2 (2018)
>>70677337
When ur mom steps off
>>70677337
THEY'RE JUST GODDAMN TREES
I fucking hate this movie.
>>70677567
If you watched the movie you'd know the tree system was actually intelligent life.
>there's a possibility you will die before seeing the culmination of Cameron's vision
Hold me senpai
>>70677601
I watched it. It came off as a pretentious "save the trees" commercial and it felt like dances with wolves all over again.
>>70677670
>environmentalism is bad
>>>/pol/
>>70677337
Reminder
>tfw he was actually the good guy
>>70677721
*tips fedora*
Those weren't his motivations and interaction and information sharing with the blue people was entirely possible.
He was just doing his job nothing more nothing less.
>>70677769
Not his motivations personally, no
But humanity as a whole.
People who develop technology for space exploration or curing cancer are just "doing their jobs" too, doesn't mean there's not a bigger picture you autist
>>70677670
>"Save the trees"
>???
>not earth
>...
>must be troll, or actual retard.
>>70677846
Majority of people felt no ill will toward the blue people.
The coporate boss guy mentioned how killing natives is bad pr, but not as bad as no profits.
>>70677567
Well. it was more like a biological internet inhabited by something made out of ancestral memes, DNA of the soul and all, so it was a bit more than trees.
That said, Earth did kinda need the stuff to not fall into a Dark Age, so I say fuck 'em. Meme Trees aren't worth more than billions of lives.
>>70677337
does thiis mena the retrun of abatwp
>>70677972
I hope so
>>70677721
Could go back to human's in the pre-bronze age and say that to them too as we kill off their culture. Is it stated anywhere that they are not developing just like we were?
How did Avatar not have the equivalent of a Prime Directive???
>>70677337
A better question is; does anyone care?
>>70678008
>Prime Directive
Starfleet represent a holier than thou post scarcity society.
Humanity in Avatar needed resources to survive. Not comparable.
>>70677943
>Earth did kinda need the stuff to not fall into a Dark Age
Did it?
>>70677720
>environmentalism means shamanistic bullshit and humanity has to take a backseat
>/reddit/
>pandroa basically has bio computer network trees and shit
>animals u can control with ur mind
>anti grav rocks and trees and shit
>lol we just neet this metal ore
what were they thinking?
>>70678087
No idea but it must have been damn important to justify the effort they spent.
>>70678008
>Is it stated anywhere that they are not developing just like we were?
seeing how they refused any technology humanity offered the movie seemed to state that they were in a evolutionary dead end.
>>70678087
It was established pretty early on that Earth was a polluted hellhole. Not like the magic space jungle where the cat people live.
>>70678168
They didn't refuse every technology though. Pretty much all of them spoke english somehow after only a few years. They are incredibly smart.
>>70678173
>sully and quaritch talking about their military tours
>mentions how the jungle in venezuela was nothing compared to pandora
>later on say earth had no greenery left
that didn't add up
>>70678168
If I could stick my usb ponytail into a tree neural network, I'm pretty sure I'd not be wowed by an ipod. It'd be more interesting if they'd played on Pandora being a result of alien biotech, not just a magic space jungle.
>>70678201
English is easy enough to learn when you don't have the benefit of hive-minding with the planet - and by extension, with everybody else who's learning English - let alone when you do.
>>70678229
I honestly don't understand how writers can get away with the bullshit 80s-era plot that "Earth is a polluted hellhole" when environmentalism has taken Western civilization by the hip.
>>70678229
True, but then again Avatar is the epitome of style over substance.
>>70678274
every primitive tribe would realistically sell their firstborns to get rid of hunger, parasites and toothaches.
Avatar is just the usual decadent western glorification and romatization of nature. Only possible in a society where the majority never had to kill anything themselves.
>>70678370
Earth is a world where it's just survival of the fittest
Pandora has a literal tree god/mother eart thing that sculpted the environment and controlled nature. The na'vi were never in need because their creator/protector was always watching out for them.
>>70678422
yeah thats fucking ridiculous creationist bullshit.
>>70678370
But it's never implied the dat folk have any of those issues. Maybe because their entire planet and everything in it are literally connected.
I get that they were hamfistededly going for the "nature is teh best, injuns were so noble" line.
All I'm saying is Pandora would make MORE SENSE if it was actually insanely advanced bio engineering by Na'vi precursors. But as Magic Trees, it's just daft.
>>70678520
Which is why...>>70678523
>BioTech would be a better reason
>>70678520
james cameron is an atheist vegan so idk ask him
>>70678589
of course he is, thats why he needs to build a replacement for god so badly.
>dude nature loves us and takes care of its children...dude...
In all seriousness, this has potential to be amazing. The first was so generic that Cameron could go in virtually any direction with the material. Cameron has proven people wrong before when they counted him out.
>>70678813
Cameron lost his touch and Avatar sequels should never happen.
>>70678717
>dude if i dont eat animals mother nature will accept me into heaven...dude...
>>70678813
I'm personally hype for the sequel and what he's going to do with the deep sea elements.
I can't wait to see what the new big bad is, like clan civil war or humans return for war or what happens.
But 4 sequels? He's fucking confident. If the sequel bombs what happens?
>>70678867
>lost his touch
Avatar, despite its generic plot, had beautiful visual storytelling and better use of CGI than 99% of today's generic capeshit shiny blurry bloom mess. So shut up.
>>70677337
Reminder that Cameroon literally ripped off the plot to Fern Gully: The Last Rain Forest
>>70678940
>But it looked pretty
Great.
Did you have a point?
>>70678978
Don't you mean pocahonatas or dances with wolves or man meets natives and falls in love and joins them: the movies
>>70679009
Cinema is about visuals. Story comes second.
The cinematorgraphy was on point and the visiuals were incredible for 2009 and still hold up today.
0/10 you're just butthurt
>>70678940
it was still a garbage movie you stupid faggot
>>70679046
I don't think story should come second but basically this. Avatar gets a ridiculous amount of undeserved hate, despite the fact that its better than 90% of corporate blockbusters today.
>>70679046
>No really, it looked pretty and thats all that matters.
You need to be 18+ to post here.
>>70679102
You see us hating the visuals dummy?
It's pretty, no doubt. But it's still a shit film.
>>70678114
whites on pandora had a whole planet of dindus to provide with gibsmedat. no time for such things.
>>70677721
that's a quote from some warhammer fanfiction though.
>>70678201
>incredibly smart
then why are they on nigger technology level?
>>70679147
>>No really, it looked pretty and thats all that matters.
>You need to be 18+ to post here.
Head on over to /lit/ if you have no appreciation for cinema.
>>70679215
Probably 40K fanfiction, The Empire don't have space ships.
>>70679215
I guess the idea is still the same behind it
>>70679258
well obviously
>>70679147
No, it isn't a shit film. It blew my mind when I was 11, and millions of normies loved it. Here's the thing- it was actually good as well.
Maybe Avatar pisses you off because it reminds you of a time when you were happy.
>>70679221
Because they already had everything. We advanced to improve our ease of life. They live in literal utopia. They also have a god breathing down their neck if they do the wrong things.
>>70679298
>utopia
nice utopia if you can get bumfucked by a bunch of ayy lmaos for some rocks and even after millennia you still get killed by predators and live in a fucking tree. even nigger did better.
>>70679243
>All I need is bright colours and pretty visuals, stories confuse me.
Why aren't you in /mlp/?
>>70679295
>Nostalgia goggles means I'm right
If it weren't pretty, it would be nothing.
>>70679348
I hope people stop replying to you since you're being a retard. Rewatch the movie.
Anyone find it strange they showed that scene of burying a na'vi in the ground but then they go and put the humans under the tree so their life force can join with the tree god?
>>70679379
not an argument
>>70679364
Confirmed for unhappy. What's wrong it being pretty?
>>70679364
>If it weren't pretty, it would be nothing.
Woah nice observation
It's almost.. almost like cinema is about the visuals.
>>70679348
>>70679404
A- the Na'vi didn't get bumfucked since Eywa seduced and mind controlled an ayy lmao, AKA Jake Sully.
B- They live forever in the global consciousness dumbass.
I can't believe I replied to you.
>>70679462
that's great. they went all out and just defeated a handful of ayys with ancient tech. did enya think that through? what will she do against orbital bombardment?
>>70677337
hope not. was packed full of subpar writing and cliches and the m8 playing the main character is a terribly boring and one-dimensional hack of an actor
>>70679513
only idiots operate on the sunk cost fallacy
it's not worth the money
>>70679534
the movie disagrees with you.
>>70679425
Nothing. But that alone doesn't make it good.
>>70679433
If this same film was made in the 80's with practical effects, no cunt would care about it. The visuals are an element, not the totality. If you literally enjoy films just for the visuals you are part of the reason nothing of worth gets made. Cause idiots like you just want better fucking graphics.
>>70679550
no it doesn't
>>70679561
>If this same film was made in the 80's with practical effects, no cunt would care about it.
it'd be a god damn classic of scifi
that is if it was done well
>>70677721
>>70677567
fuck off underage contrarion edge lord faggot
>>70679561
This.
Avatar looked great but was shit on everything else.
>>70679625
wrong
>>70679589
yes it does. the rock sells for enough to pay for the mission and earn money. so it will pay for a new mission but this time without carrot and only stick.
>>70679561
I didn't know it was possible to be this jaded.
>>70679589
No it wouldn't.
We'd all laugh at the rubber masks by now, even if at the time they were superb.
Hell, even the CG is starting to age.
>>70679643
Great rebuttal.
>>70679695
thanks
>>70679046
>Cinema is about visuals. Story comes second
YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIR!
>>70679726
>my college professor of black kino studies told me so
>>70679589
>>70679682
Audiences today flock to visually unimpressive movies that are terribly storyboarded, if at all with shot-reverse shot, shakycam, CGI shot. Just look at Civil War and BvS. Avatar still looks better than both of those.
Why is it so terrible to admit that Avatar has terrific visual storytelling and a serviceable plot? What prompts you to dislike to the movie as much as red-dit does?
>>70678114
How come they couldn't find one shady villain clan on Pandora, willing to backstab the others, sell it to the soldiers and rule the desolated land, eternal shiny and chrome?
>>70679657
yes but what cost was spent getting there and setting up and do they have that capital to do it again. they would face greater resistance and know they'd have to invest 10 times the amount previously to try and succeed along with trying to find mercenaries on board with going to some far off world to die. you'd have to pay them incredibly well.
it's likely more costly to return than venture into alternative energies or whaterver the rock was used for
>>70679770
because they were all united by the trees
>>70679785
how is throwing a bunch of rocks from space onto a bunch if blue niggers cost a lot?
>>70679672
>U don't like teh mubi I saw as a kid teh saem way I doo...? You Jaded!!
You were a child awed by bright colours.
By that same logic you might argue Power Rangers was high art. It certainly had pretty colours.
>>70679753
>Teh rebbit boogeyman hates it so we must love it!!!
It's Shit but Pretty.
Fucking deal with it.
>>70679785
And yet, sequels are happening. Where else will we get conflict?
>>70679785
Earth is literally BUCKLING under overconsumption and nuclear terrorism. Most people eat algae based shit to survive ffs. Note, this lore is decently shady at this point since it serves no real purpose in the film and might be retconned come Avatar 2.
But Unobtanium is worth what, $200mil/kg? There's a reason the RDA set up the most expensive quasi-governmental corp trip ever. 10 ISVs and solar sails coming to and fro every 6 months. Fuck I love Jim, just thinking about his sci-fi/titanic autism makes me hyped for Avatar 2. He always gives every project 110%.
>>70679821
>spending money out of spite with no goal
this is why you're poor
So will they explain why the scientist retards were out studying plants when they were supposed to be convincing the Na'vi to move?
I don't blame Quaritch for losing his mind. The scientists in this movie are absolutely retarded. Nothing was getting done.
>>70679872
The goal is obtaining the fucking mineral.
>>70679743
are you genuinely trying to argue story quality doesn't matter just because it's film or are you just being a cheeky cunt
>>70677720
wtf is pol doing with it, faggot?
>>70679872
Humans are the baddies, baddies have to do bad things. No one on Pandora is a baddy, so the humans have to come back.
>>70679858
>Where else will we get conflict
civil war, scientists coming to kidnap na'vi to put them in zoos on earth and jake sully has to fly a space dragon to go get them back?
the possibilties are endless
>>70678923
Maybe there's a technologically advanced species living on the ocean floors of Pandora?
I always thought that would be interesting.
>>70679893
Watch the FUCKING MOVIE YOU MONGOLOID
They shot up a school a decade earlier when some Na'vi kids attacked bulldozers.
Good god /tv/ is full of retards sometimes. If you want to hate on Avatar through ignorance there's a containment website you can visit for that.
the actual plot sucked, but the value of Avatar lies in the atmosphere it created. Not since LOTR have I ever wanted to visit a fantasy world so badly as Pandora.
>>70679954
>Endless
>Humans come back or suddenly Bad Kitties
>Endless
>>70679914
what good will throwing rocks do?
>>70679866
Where's this lore from?
also it's 20mil a kg.
the investement required to even get the ore might not be worth it seeing that it was only 1 company doing it. maybe the government will come back next time.
>>70680029
Rocks from space.
>>70680014
>It was pretty and my life sucks
Seriously, this belongs on /mlp/ with the retards who think Equestria is the afterlife.
>>70679964
The shooting happened in response to a Na'vi raid. Something the scientists were supposed to prevent and proved themselves incompetent
>fuck it, we're incapable of doing our assignment, let's waste time and study the local flora
>>70680015
it was a joke u twit
>>70680095
>an asteroid gaining speed for millenia
>vs some rock dropped from a space ship
hmm
>>70680130
Yes, the whole concept of Avatar getting sequels IS a joke.
>>70680164
>what is momentum
Are you fucking retarded or just baiting?
He needs to capture this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbimJTppplo
>>70680164
Not that Anon, but Google Rods from God.
Gravity alone from geosync can cause massive damage.
>>70680167
edgy
>>70680192
it'll burn up in the atmosphere m8
unless you plan to move around a rock 2km long in space and not have it pull u into the parent planets gravitaional field
the logistics of that operation are bretty fucked
>>70680255
Rods from God retard.
>>70680192
Bro, rocks from space is cool, but any attack will be with normal nukes.
It's clear from the brief backstory that earth is riddled with nukes, combine that with the already toxic atmosphere, and there becomes very little reason not to through some down if you're going to go to war.
>>70680236
>>70680298
>a theoretical weapon intended for use on earth
yeah that's surely gonna cause an apocalyptic event
what happened to abatap? ya know, the cry more guy
>>70680328
Fuck off. It doesn't exist.
>>70680328
Top kek
>>70680364
Kinetic energy is kinetic energy you idiot.
>>70680328
Kek
Sam Worthington must be harassing Cameron to UNJUST his "career"
>>70680434
Maybe GodTree has fucking Flower Shields and Tree Phasers.
>>70680328
DELET THIS
>>70680434
woah u r a man of such science huh
>>70680328
>>70680485
Wouldn't he be contracted from early? Besides now all he has to do is mocap work on weekends
>>70677337
Has anyone even watched the first one?
>>70680328
No pls, I need someone to change my piss bottles
>>70680313
But then the Space Cats lose, and humminz are teh baddies, so Space Cats can't lose.
>>70680313
using nukes is illegal bro
>>70680656
Space cats don't lose, they just get nuked. In 50 years they'll be our greatest ally and earth will be flooded with cheap TVs and cars.
>>70679295
thank you for your underage opinion. some of us have finished school and seen more than 10 movies in our lifetime.
when we saw Avatar it was mediocre for us because this story has been told countless times already and the pretty visuals didn't make up for that.
>>70680721
not on pandora
>>70680806
Japandora. I'd buy that.
>>70680721
Pffft, no it fucking isn't in a War.
>>70680874
>in war
>one corporation mining ore gets to declare war and use nukes
yeah nah
>>70677337
They're waiting for Jai Courtney to finish the Suicide Squad reshoots, then I think they'll start.
>>70680956
that's not far off if you think about east indian trade company and the like
>>70680956
>one corporation mining ore gets to declare war and use vtol aricraft and power armor
>>70680956
And who's going to stop them?
You really think politicians wouldn't turn a blind eye to it, especially if it serves their interests...? How naive are you...?
>>70680989
>>70680990
>>70681134
>lmao u know that planet we plan to go down and mine ore from
>lets just like nuke it to death so no one can step foot on it again
good idea guys
>>70680328
fuck
>>70680956
Why not? It seems they hold monopoly of interstellar travel, at that point, making a nuke is nothing.
>>70681226
Why could they never step on it again? They have fucking interstellar travel, and are colonizing an already poisonous world. Robotic mining and hazmat suits should be easy.
>>70681226
You mean the planet which is already completely toxic and inhospitable to humans?
>>70681226
more like:
>we tried everything to talk reason
>even spent billions on the avatar program
>now they attacked us
>whole planet in danger
>>70677721
Who ever wrote that is surely a God among us Men
>>70677721
avatar 2 is looking great. zombie jesus confirmed
>>70681226
The first movie showed they have automated deforestry, why not mining?
>>70681263
>>70681264
>>70681271
you can wear a gas mask/oxygen breather for air
gl with the radiation poisoning though
>>70681340
so why were they even on the surface?
>>70681366
automated mining.
>>70681366
What is an NBC suit?
>>70681366
To study the natives.
Why study the nuked?
Oh, and if you can make a space suit, you can make one rad resistant.
>>70681410
all your vehicles and equipment will become irradiated, the ore itself will become irradiated, your vehicles will likely fuck up from radiation. doesn't sound fun.
>>70681448
>To study the natives.
Why?
>>70681482
>I don't understand what radiation is the post
Soon
5 billion at domestic box office
>>70681482
Humanity masters interstellar travel, but struggles with radiation?
>Why?
You're asking WHY ARE THEY STUDYING AN ALIEN SPECIES, is that right?
Has Jim ever let us down
>>70681550
>all i have to do is wash my hands and radiation will be ok
hmmm
>>70681587
why would they study them if they have no qualm with destorying them all?
>>70681625
Said Genisys was good
>>70677337
Meh. It'll be just below mediocre tops
>prove me wrong
>>70681628
>>all i have to do is wash my hands and radiation will be ok
For the most dangerous type of radiation yes actually.
>>70681628
>Why we study if we destroy...?
See the rainforest.
>Hurr durr you can't just wash radioactive material off
You'd be surprised.
>>70681628
Why study them after they attack you, destroy equipment, kill your employees and scientists, and generally run you off the planet?
Are you dense? This is about them coming back, the original mission would have different goals than the second.
>>70681779
>See the rainforest.
We don't decide to nuke the rainforest because a tiger ate someone.
>>70680328
Wow, that looks like shit.
>>70681955
>Dat Strawman
We destroy it despite studying it, moron.
>>70682044
the people who study it are not the ones who destroy it retard
>>70681955
Well we should do it because humans are the masters of the earth and we can do whatever we want with it and i want to nuke the rainforest because its got angry tigers, scary insects and dumb big trees.
>>70682099
"We" as a species you dense little shitnugget.
>>70682134
>a species
im not the same species as you, nigger
>>70677337
I would in like to see a movie in which the humans go back with more troops and equipment and exterminate every single one of those giant blue savages.
>>70682177
Sadly, you are the same species as me. That knowlede often makes me despair.
>>70682217
Burn.
Did na'vi have penises?
I didn't see any big blue cock, why wasn't this ever mentioned.
like jake should have been excited to get hardons again if they had them
>>70682306
Their USB hair is also their sexual organ.
>>70682337
Bummer.
>>70682337
why was it never mentioned that they rape all those animals then? the animals weren't consenting at all
>>70682364
Based on how Jake reacted when he and cat bitch hooked uglies, and because it's preachy as fuck, Na'vi sex is likely much better.
Even if they do rape animals to control them.
>>70682438
Good question.
>>70677721
He was like Hernan Cortez, but in this case the Mexicans won.
>>70678867
shut your whore filthy mouth.
Cameron IT'S THE KING!
BEST CONQUEST OF MEXICO.... NOT! movie ever!
>>70679024
BIG NEWS, they all are ripped of from Hernan Cortez and La Malinche.
Cameron was the most faithful one because he kept the tribal and spiritual aspect that the ancient Mehicans had.
But in this case the Mehicans won.
This is something that fucking europeans and some gringos will never understand about this movie.
>>70679061
Why?
>MUH STORY IS COPY PASTE
was it a bad story?
>Muhhh pocahontas and tis and tat.
Butthurt faggs, are just mad they cant beat the JIMBO
>>70682788
>>70682761
>>70682712
>>70682639
Why can't I report you for being an obnoxious cunt?
>>70682639
>>70682712
>>70682761
>>70682788
>Posting 4 (four, 3+1) reactions in a row
>Being THIS MUCH of a cocksmoker
>>70682863
>>70682921
CANT BEAT THE JIMBO! SUCK IT KEK SUCKER.
Seriously the only reason you bastards hate avatar it's because it reminds you of the happiness that you once had and can no longer obtain.
The story it's comfy, simple and a classic one that ACTUALLY happened in human history when the new continent was discovered.
Which btw we have zero good movies about such thing, so this one made us all a favor.
>>70682921
Think it qualifies as spam.
>>70683131
What? No it doesn't. If that was spam then 3/4ths of this boards posts/posters would be deleted/banned
>>70677337
Its called Warcraft and is a prequelv
>>70680328
dubs
