>tfw Blizzard made a better villain in their FIRST movie than Marvel has been able to do in THIRTEENL O L
>>70661102
Only seen previews but fuck does this guy look real menacing and amazing
>>70661102
Asian (Chinese) guy was the motion capture / voice of the him. This same Asian guy also has his TV series in the US where he is the main character / lead.
Can you name him without googling it?
>>70661134
Totally! I'm super hype to see this when it opens on June 10th (tomorrow!)
>>70661178
Ching Chong
>>70661178
Wing Wong
>>70661188
dude did you know you could have seen it yesterday and today?
Gul'Dan was epic as shit, and a cheater (spoilers)
>>70661102
>tfw the orcs were the only decent part of the movie
>>70661102
>>70661134
>>70661188
>>70661230
>trying too hard to sound like shills
>>70661250
this, every part with them was great
>>70661178
Ting Tong
>>70661178
Ding Dong
>>70661102
>generic overpowered evil wizard
>better than Zemo
>>70661303
who here /damagecontrol/
>>70661102
too bad 3/4ths of the movie was watching shitty C-List 'human' actors overact that guy playing the apprentice magician literally has zero charisma onscreen and I have no idea how he passed the audition.
>>70661483
Fuel for the Fel
>>70661178
Bing Bong
>>70661178
Bing Bong
>>70661178
King Kong
>>70661498
They under-acted. They barely emoted at all. Very little expression in the delivery or the body language.
>>70661469
He takes off his robes and brawls barehanded.
Because he's an orc, not a pussy wizard nerd.
>>70661178
Zing Zong
>>70661178
Kling klong
>>70661178
Wong Bing
>>70661659
Yes howeverGul'Dan cheats and uses his life drain powers on Durotan to kill him
>>70661102
>THIRTEEN
>>70661178
Jackie Chan
>>70661878
oi don't talk sully on the thirteenth
>>70661874
Oh yeah he cheats like a motherfucker no denying it.
But he's ballsy enough to get into a punching match in the first place and takes several solid fists to the face.
>>70662176
kys my nigga
>>70661874
he looked like he was actually slightly better than Durotan and probably would have won. he only started cheating when he realized the fight was going to drag on for a while and he needed to open the portal ASAP
What do you about Thanos in the upcoming Avengers movies?
>>70661178
Sum Ting Wong
>>70661102
>tooth ring
is this the western games equivalent to Japanese characters being covered in belts?
>>70661102
Whats good about him? I mean I thought he was cool but he was just evil
>>70661469
Rose Byrne in Spy was better than Zemo.
>>70661102
lol nice one OP, Marvel BTFO
>mentally handicapped ironic retards tried to push the star wars prequels, they got told to fuck off
>they tried to push batman 5 superman as "kino", were told ot fuck off
>they're now trying to push warcraft the movie
Go play in traffic already, retards.
Why do Blizzard seem so keen to just retcon Ner'zhul out of existence? Do they feel that it makes Gul'dan any less of a hatable bastard to have him as an undermining subservient for a bit?
And how the fuck do they plan on ever doing a Lich King story without him??
>>70663113
who is this, she looks pretty and id like to touch my penis to pictures of her naked
who /Warcraft 2016 720p HDTC x264 AC3 TiTAN/ here?
>>70664064
im pretty sure they can corrupt arthas with frostmourn and dont need a dead orc skull to take over his body
>>70664064
Ner'zhul honestly wasn't that important to talk about in this movie. It was Gul'dan who opened the portal. Ner'zhul at this time was wallowing in self pity. A bit weird that he wasn't in the prequel novel to this movie.
Although it would've been nice to see Ner'zhul as a cameo like we got to see Grommash, Kilrogg and Kargath.
>>70664064
movies have different structures than other medians like books, videogames, etc as you only have about 2 hours to tell a story.
>>70664064
Don't worry, he'll show up in 2.
He has to.Right?
>>70664064
Just make it some sort of demon. I always thought it was awkward how Ner'zhul was the original Lich King because he felt so not orcish or NZ like. He went from brute force orc to scheming Lich in one mindrape from KJ. It might as well had been a random demon.
Or it could be GD. Fuck it, he dies anyway.
>>70661178
Sum Yung Gai
>>70661178
Bruce Lee
>>70664464
But then what does Illidan consume to gain his demonic powers?
>>70661178
Suq Madiq
>>70661102
Oh please. Loki and Zemo take a steaming dump on this guy without flinching
>>70664086
>she
he has a bigger dick than the orcs on the movie
wtf why didn't kill this orc mage nigga?
>>70661178
I actually cannot. Who is it?
An Asian men definitely didn't voice him.
No Red Skull is better.
>>70664621
It's Daniel Wu, and yes, he did voice him.
>>70664574
actually his dick is pretty small. all shriveled up and unable to get erect due to hormones.
>I will not be disobeyed!
>>Not "I will not be denied!"
One fucking job, writers.
>>70661102
All orcs are fucking villains. Movie should've been about murdering fucking alien scum invaders that thought low of humans and wanted to take everything. It should'e been like Starship Troopers.
>>70663004
Ho Lee Shitt
>>70665639
>all orcs are fucking villains
Yes. That's why I was always Alliance in the game. So I could murder those damn dirty orcs by the thousands.
Just saw it. Its a pretty decent flick.
Some parts are better than others. Pacing could be better.
I liked how the griffon was fucking up orcs big time in the background while the human fights in the front.
>>70661303
it's a meme you dip
>>70661102
>>70661102
Daniel Wu was bretty gud brah.
Loved how Guldan was portrayed and how he wasn't too powerful and had to abide by his people's rules.
No body can voice Guldan better then in WOD
>>70661102
Fuck this blatant shilling. Holy fuck. This movie looks like a made for TV scifi channel flick.
Can someone post those clips so we can laugh the shills off the board with how bad the CG is?
Does anyone think this will age well?
>>70661102
Did they include any auction house scenes? Does any characters bid on low level magic items mispriced and then flip them?
>>70669056
>there is no character with a bank inspired name that is wearing obscenely rare or expensive items standing on top of a mail box
ruined any immersion I had
>>70661382
yes? my name is ting tong. Do i know you?
>>70669083
Goldshire wasn't full of rp scum
Plus Blizzard the foresight to not fucking kill him immediately.
This was a fucking great movie.
>>70661102
Shill moar idiot
Orcs were the only remotely decent thing in this mess. All the rest sucked ass.
>>70667597
Go away russo brothers.
>>70663967
If you dont understand why people defend the prequels relative to episode 7, you're an idiot.
If you don't understand why people think BvS is way better than marvel film #56136, you're an idiot.
Warcraft was a good, but not great movie. 7/10. Solid.
>>70665010
he said disobey in english, some things get changed in translation nerd
>>70667597
Why are you so negative? I went and saw this with my brother who is a wowfag and the CGI orcs were fucking amazing, the world and nature (ironforge, human forrests) looked great
>>70661102
I might see this even though I barely touched WoW
I've been wanting a good fantasy movie for a long time that isn't fucking capeshit or starshit with a boring generic bald villain dude with boring powers
>>70669377
Problem with this is you kinda need to know a lot of wow lore to truly enjoy this
There is very little character development
I feel if you don't know who is who going in you're going to be completely lost
Come to think of it... Marvel movies have been mostly about in-fighting in various degrees.
Even Ultron was Tony's AI at one point or something?
>>70669440
I know almost nothing about warcraft lore and didn't get completely lost. Maybe the first 15 minutes was a bit confusing, but after that everything started to make sense.
Sure characters were a bit rushed when it comes to establishing them, but on the other hand do I really need to know every characters life story. Who knows.
>>70661178
Into The Badlands is fucking great. Was the best current show on AMC until Preacher took it's place.
>>70661622
Is it like avatar then? (Which I've only seen the nostalgia critic vid of)
>>70664064
Well almost all of the retcons in this seem to be done with the aim of condensing the story. Bowie Jr said he has 2 more films in mind, so if we assume that he wants to do Warcraft 1 - 3, there's no way in hell they are going to deal with The Frozen Throne in that time.
The fact that Grom got 0 lines as well makes me think that he'll be getting the cut come the 3rd film as well. A huge time jump like there is between Warcraft 2 and 3, and the fact that almost all of the characters are replaced with new ones, would be very jaring for a film trilogy.
For example, they'll probably focus more on Doomhammer and Thrall, saving Doomhammers death for the 3rd film. Since Mannaroth is gone as well, Gul'dan will probably make it into the 3rd film as a replacement for the Thrall/Grom fight with Mannoroth. The fact that Lothar killed Blackhand shows that Bowie Jr is more intrested in giving the characters arcs that pay off rather than sticking to the lore. Doomhammer is obviously the one destined to kill Gul'dan in this version of the lore.
I mean, can you imagine how retarded it would be if Gul'dan just disappeared off to the tomb of saragaras in the next 2 films? It would be such a buzz kill.
Other retcons that seem obvious at this point are that Archimonde will probably be replaced with Sargaras, I could even see Jaina being merged into Khadgar since he just vanishes from the story like Gul'dan in warcraft 2.
>>70670361
This.
>>70669377
If you're not a retard and/or you don't walk into it with a pre-conceived notion of the film content being 'beneath you', then you will enjoy it for what it is for sure. It's clear who is who and what they're motivations are, even if you don't know all their backstory.
Everyone I've spoken to falls into these two categories. They either went in looking for stuff to bash, or they just let it be and got their moneys worth.
I really think 30-40 more minutes of character development and padding would've made this movie much better.
I enjoyed it but randoms and critics wouldn't I think.
>>70670968
The actors couldn't act for shit, 40 minutes wouldn't have changed anything
>>70663051
Well, if you're familiar with Warcraft war, he's not just evil, he's possessed. He's a pawn of Kil'Jaeden, who himself is a pawn of the destroyer of worlds, Sargeras.
In the end, Guldan has been promised godhood, which he will be rewarded by getting mauled by demons when the time comes.
>>70671222
Khadgar and the queen were fine
but yeah everyone else was pretty shit
>>70661483
Why?
Even DC was destroyed by Disney.
>>70669181
According to virgins only though.
>>70661102
Giving a good look to this picture, I have to wonder:
Is there any specific reason why Durotan and Gul'dan have the exact same tusk piercings?
>>70671317
>CGI budget copypasta
Same reason no stormwind siege, + pic related soldier copypasta
>>70664574
>>70664975
>he
>his
>>70671247
Durotan, Orgrim and Lothar were good.
>>70671575
That was my first though, but then so many other details are different, it feels strange that tusk piercings would be part of the template.
>>70661178
The only Asian actor I know that used to get consistent work as "asian guy" is James Hong
>>70661659
>not a pussy wizard nerd.
Actually he is, but that's just of a moot point when your whole race is like 8 ft tall and always jacked as shit.
>>70664064
>Do they feel that it makes Gul'dan any less of a hatable bastard to have him as an undermining subservient for a bit?
But Gul'dan secretly controlled the horde through the shadow council. Blackhand was a puppet, Ner'zhul the spiritual leader.
>>70661178
Daniel Wu
I don't know how so many of you got this wrong
>>70672090
> And Guldan and Medivh were controled by Sargeras thats where fel came from, but fuck the story right? They found fel in local wizard store!
>>70661102
loved his opening speech. talk about hooking you in with a badass villain right away
>>70672119
literally wu
>>70666617
Why the fuck did they not just get Troy Baker, when he's already done motion capture anyway?
>>70672246
Blizzard didn't have complete control? Legacy would've had to make the majority of final decisions since it was their money, I'm assuming.
>>70661469
>>70663967
>>70664565
>>70667597
>>70669191
>>70671271
>>70671294
t. increasingly nervous MCUcks
>vidyakino is over says increasingly nervous capeshitcuck for the seventh time this year
>>70661178
Mao Zi "Chang Wong" Ling.
>>70672376
>vidyakino
SJW, please.
>>70673373
>>70673411
Huh, I thought they stopped making subscription numbers public near the end of Pandaria
>>70664297
Pleb.
All patricians are /Warcraft 2016 1080p HD-TC x264 AC3 5.1-CPG/
>>70661102
but he is like willem dafoe :0
>>70671317
Honestly it could be some sort of thing that Warchiefs do to signify something. Gul'dan's tusk with the piercings is chipped where as Durotan's is pristine.
>>70671575
Weren't the soldiers actual actors though? They did show the armor around a lot in live events.
>>70671575
Pretty sure those soldiers are real m8. Thing is that every single orc looks really different and unique, so they were obviously aware of the copy-paste that usually occurs and so the fact that the knights look similar is obviously on purpose.
Also how the shit would they have time for the siege of stormwind? There's so much stuff that can be condensed. It would make more sense for Stormwind to fall either at the beginning of a 2nd film, or get rid of Lorderon and have the scourge plague wipe Stormwind out instead.
>>70661102
>those same 3 guys who keep circle-jerking over gul'dan in every warcraft thread
>>70664975
>tfw Sarina Valentina is probably the hottest tranny out there
>cock is so broken she may as well be a girl
Baileys is on the way out as well. What's the point in a good trap if they don't have a working cock?
>>70661134
wait till you see his pecs
>>70677956
I never realised how much I had wanted to watch Gul'dan have a bare chested wrestling match with another orc up until that moment.
If I had been born American I would have totally started clapping in the theatre.
>>70661102
He was one of the worst characters in the movie. They completely butchered his character
In the game
>master manipulator
>managed to unite the horde and had the chieftains make a pact with demons
>uses Blackhand as a puppet Warchief while he rules from the shadows
>invades Azeroth under the orders of the Burning Legion, but clearly has an agenda of his own in gaining power from the Tomb of Sargeras
In the movie
>retard who's only in charge because he is the most powerful
>no blood pact, just 'muh fel magic' that's never explained where he learned it from
>Blackhand's Warchief title means nothing as Gul'dan's clearly in charge
>everyone in the Horde openly questions him constantly
>whines anout how everyone must obey him
>invades Azeroth because a demon voice told him it exists and he wants to go there for more fel magic I guess?
>>70670858
The movie won't get any sequels. They won't butcher the RTS games anymore. If they wanna make shit movies they should stick to adapting World of Warcraft instead since that's a shit game.
>>70661102
>HURR DURR WHY IS NOBODY OBEYING ME
>MUH FEL MAGIC
Such a fucking retarded character. Not at all like he was presented in the games
>>70661102
I want him do dominate queens anal holeshe will beg for it
>>70672119
>I don't know how so many of you got this Wong
ftfy
How many more movies until this baselord arrives?
>>70678606
Why was she a different ethnicity than her brother?
>>70678736
Hopefully never. They'd butcher Warcraft 3 worse than they've already butchered Warcraft 1
Arthas when
>>70661178
Dong Nyugen
to be honest I didn't regret watching this movie mainly because of him
>>70678786
WC3 is too big for a single movie anyway
RoC would need two movies and TFT one
>>70678868
Which is problematic because TFT would be so underwhelming compared to the ending of RoC
They'd have to mix them together in some way to make an interesting trilogy
>>70678759
my dick approoves this fantasy so who cares?
>>70678786
Battle for Mount Hyjal hype
>>70678906
It would be a huge mistake, they'd have to change a lot of shit for it to make sense
TFT could work well on its own I believe, despite being a bit underwhelming
>>70678906
>TFT
>underwhelming
The ending cinematic alone was GOAT
>>70678934
You're probably a wowbabby who only knows it from Caverns of Time anyway. Same as 90% of people who want to see Arthas
>>70678931
Someone who isn't from battlenet.
>movie will be shit once it reaches the best warcraft, RoC
FUCK
>>70678981
He means that the stakes aren't nearly as high as in RoC
Casuals will say it's filler shit
>>70678988
The mission in WC3 was pretty shit anyway. The last one in TFT was much better.
>>70678988
Not really I got through Warcraft 3 then onto WoW.
It would be awesome to see Kelthuzad summon him as well.
>>70678981
Normies won't have an ending in which the bad guy wins
>>70678974
Yep it would indeed be difficult, but maybe they could have the battle of hyjal be right before illidan vs arthas
>>70678981
The scale is definitely underwhelming compared to RoC.
If they would end the 2nd movie with Hyjal the 3rd one would be lackluster in comparision.
Riddle me this. Warcraft (and other Blizzard games) have had amazing composers throughout history (mostly Russel Brower, Derek Duke, Jason Hayes) who have made some of the scores. Yet they hire someone who has no connection to their series?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=800be1ZmGd0
>>70679100
Arthas was objectively the good guy in that fight.
>>70679150
He literally wasn't.
>>70679150
Name one bad thing that Illidan ever did pre-TBC
>>70679168
He literally was. Illidan only wanted to kill him because Kil'Jaeden gave him one last chance not to fuck up. And KJ wanted the Lich King dead because he hated the Legion's guts.
The Legion is a bigger evil than the Scourge
Therefore Arthas was the good guy
>>70679211
Illidan was trying to destroy something objectively evil (the Scourge) because he was forced by his evil master.
It was that or dying, and even with that, there's literally nothing wrong with destroying the Lich King.
Arthas was just a brainwashed puppet.
>Scourge is the good guy
>>70661178
Cheech Chong
>>70679211
Becuase Illidan needed Kil'Jaedens loyalty so that he could betray his ass and kill him and therefor strike a significant blow to the Burning Legion.
If you think this was in any way a good villain, then you're a knuckle-dragging fanboy. Nearly all of Marvel's shit villains were better.
>>70679288
That's literally fanfiction
>>70679260
And the Lich King was fighting for his own survival too. And he would've worked against the Legion had they invaded before Arthas decided it's time to conquer Azeroth. Also one of the reasons he wanted to conquer Azeroth was to get a massive army and push the Legion's shit in
>>70679373
>And the Lich King was fighting for his own survival too
So fucking what? The Lich King is as evil as the Legion, he murdered countless humans of Lordaeron.
>>70679405
And the Legion destroyed hundreds of thousands of worlds
Face it, the Legion was the bigger bad and in that fight the Scourge were the good guys
>>70679344
>im retardedz the post
>>70679373
>That's literally fanfiction
No, he did it for the greater good
Based Illidan is the only one that has the power to destroy the BL without having to kill everyone and raise them as undead like Arthas wanted to do
>>70679432
So what?
Illidan wasn't defending the Legion, he has no allegiance to it other than KJ threatening him.
He's not a mindless puppet like Arthas is, he already tried to escape them, he'll do it again as soon as he can.
On the other side, Arthas is a faggot that murdered his father and his kingdom and Ner'zhul is a piece of shit that destroyed Draenor, buttfucked the Draenei and set the Horde on Azeroth because the Legion told him so, only that he tried to rebel and got blown the fuck out, he's not good just because there's something more evil than him.
Fucking Arthas fanboys are goddamn retarded.
>>70679523
How stupid do you have to be to not see the bigger picture? KJ wanted the Lich King dead because he knew he'd fight against the Legion if they were to invade again. It doesn't matter if Illidan was only obeying orders, he was doing an evil thing. Again I'm not saying that the Scourge are good guys, I'm only saying that in that conflict they were by far the lesser evil.
>>70679591
>KJ wanted the Lich King dead because he knew he'd fight against the Legion
Literally everyone would fight against the Legion, not only the Lich King.
Why the fuck do you think they need him when the NIght Elves already defeated them not once, but twice? The Lich King doesn't fight the Legion because he wants to defend Azeroth, he fights them because KJ is mad at him.
And the reason why KJ wanted to destroy him was because he failed him, and this is already stated in WC3.
He wasn't doing an evil thing at all, he was obeying an evil master because he fucking threatened him, but destroying the Lich King is all but bad.
JUST FUCKING KILL ME SENPAI
>yfw Gul Dan saying For the horde in the most menacing way possible during the first few minutes of the movie
>>70661178
Wu Bu
>>70669175
Yeah I was wondering where the naked night elves dancing on tables were. Gotta say though the sets were fucking fantastic. Going to see it again today and try to actually see the easter eggs this time (have the rip but enjoy it on the big screen).
>>70679669
>because he failed him
It wasn't failure, it was straight up betrayal. It was Arthas who told Illidan of Gul'dan's skull and that it will allow him to rek Varimathras.
>>70680069
Doesn't change the fact that everything he does is because KJ is still mad at him.
He doesn't want to defend Azeroth, he wants to defend himself, and killing every living being to raise them as mindless servants to survive is hardly "good".
Hypest part of the movie desu
>>70661178
Fu Bu
>>70661178
Rong Dong
they should have really spent more money on this and upped the creation value
the movie actually isn't half bad but you can tell it was made cheaply, would have broken the 1b no doubt had they
>>70664464
Ner'zhul was not a brute force orc, he was the greatest and wieset shaman in the Horde at the time who got fooled by KJ but eventually wised up which is why KJ switched to Gul'dan who did not need to fool.
Ner'zhul tried to help the orcs but said fuck it and tried to escape but was captured by KJ who tortured and twisted his soul into the Lich King who wanted to fuck up KJ with his undead army.
>>70679669
>>70680069
>>70680133
Can you guys stop using ambiguous pronouns so I can tell the difference between coherent thoughts and misunderstanding of the lore?
>>70680135
Wait his spikes are part of his body?
>>70680325
Yes? common thing with fell corruption.
>>70680135
>green eyes
Why couldn't they just keep them red?
>>70680205
You're right desu
The movie's biggest problem is that it's too short, which leads to shitty pacing and bad character development. Since they cut literally 40 minutes of footage from the movie, increasing the budget and including that footage might have turned the movie into pure kino.
The movie is still entertaining though, but hopefully we'll get a DC
>>70680135
True that scene was hype as well as the first one at start when he opens the portal and that OST kicks in
>>70680363
They could've told everything in 2 hours if Duncan Jones wasn't a fucking hack.
>>70680354
Indeed but usually they are tiny or come from their heads in the games it always looked just apart of his cloak, well Ill be dammed.
>>70680325
Thats what happens to orcs when they drink Mountain Dew
>>70679705
Are they retconning everything in original lore? Didn't Durotan get killed by humans?
>>70680363
The movies biggest problem is they keep pushing this orcs vs humans things that nobody has cared about in years, in every wow expansion they try and push orcs vs humans when they have a more interesting universe to explore.
I still think an Arthas movie would have been better.
>>70680400
>Peter Hackson could've told the entire LOTR trilogy in 6 hours if he wasn't such a fucking hack
>>70680426
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRwNr9gp1jo
>>70680454
>I still think an Arthas movie would have been better.
The title of the film is: Warcraft: The Beginning
Considering the movie itself did pretty well.
I will cut off my arm if we don't get a sequel(s) that cover the likes of Arthas or Illidan.
>>70680474
they should have got him to make this, would have been a masterpiece
>>70680265
He was tricked into leading the orcs in an attack on the draenei.
Then he wised up.
Then KJ replaced him Gul'dan.
Then he betrayed KJ by warning Durotan not to drink Mannoroth's blood.
This is all true, but it's important to note that his betrayal wasn't really about helping the orcs as it was sticking it to KJ for tricking him.
Buuuuuuuuut
Then he, with Gorefiend, opened portals all over Draenor so they could ransack more worlds. This wasn't evil per se, but it was definitely in the same line of thinking that led him to attack the Draenei, a lust for power and control, except this time he wasn't being led around by the fake spirits of his ancestors.
Then, as his final act of selfishness and greed, Ner'zhul fled the Horde and Draenor as his actions destroyed their world.
Ner'zhul stopped being a good guy long before KJ killed him and turned him into the LK.
>>70680438
He was killed by shadow council assassins who cut his femoral artery and he bled to death while only killing one of the assassins and watched his wife get butchered.
>>70680416
>literally the most corrupted Fel Orc ever
>surprised he has spikes growing out of him
>>70680501
arthas is a side story that really doesn't have much to do with what happened in this movie, be a pretty big leap to get there even in a 3rd or 4th
>>70661102
>those lifesteal scenes
It was pretty cool
>>70680474
You know making a retarded analogy isn't an argument, right?
If instead of 40 minutes of epic references, quips, that awful Medivh anime fight, that pointless Dalaran sequence and meaningless travelling to try to convey scale and failing at that and terrible Garona scenes we had worldbuilding and explanations everything would make sense.
>>70680508
But in the movie he dies in a duel against Gul'dan?
>>70680501
But will it do well until Arthas, they have the guaranteed warcraft goers.
Hopefully they will get more budget too, Scourge is best story line of warcraft.
>>70680400
Nope
>>70680454
You can't understand Arthas and WC3 without understanding WC1 & WC2 and I'm honestly tired of people saying they should have made an Arthas movie
Arthas isn't even the most interesting character in WC3 desu senpai
>>70680438
Durotan was killed by the remnants of Gul'dan's supporters at the end of the First War. Does something different happen in the film?
isn't Garona a true spy in the lore
>>70680588
>Arthas isn't even the most interesting character in WC3
Yeah, it's Chromie.
And don't give me none of that "Chromie isn't in WC3" nonsense. That bitch can time travel yo.
>>70680514
He never had spikes before Wod.
>>70661178
That guy from Into the Badlands
>>70680592He gets the life sucked out of him by Gul'dan's fel magic
>>70661874
>Life drain
Its soul drain you fucking normie
>>70680588
>You can't understand Arthas and WC3 without understanding WC1 & WC2
Yes you can, easily. The orcs had very little to do with the undead besides Ner'zhul and so far it seems they don't care about the background behind these charters since Fel magic is the big bad and Sargeras is not mentioned.
>>70661178
Ling ding
>>70680365
With how in control he was until the last bit the movie was honestly making it difficult for me to hate Gul'dan despite his ways. He just got shit done.
Portal to the other world needs souls? Slave asks to spare kid? No. Work needs to be done. Delaying will cost more time and resources.
Child of the clan is a stillbirth? Fuck this weak deer, it had its time. Cast revive.
A group of Orcs fell to humans? Sacrifice idiot leader. Upstart challenges you? Accept twice.
Idiot leader from before starts to flake? Cast buff, enhance fortitude. Group sweeps opposition.
Cheating was a foul and letting things fall apart just because of a few surprise tactics at the end was sloppy, but again until that last point he was too compelling to dislike. Especially compared to the rest of the cast who seem clueless and aimless.
>>70680683
That seems like an acceptable change to me. Who actually kills him is less important than him being killed and what faction is responsible for him being killed.
Like, I'd be pissed if Ogrim killed him or something.
>>70680635
implying she wasnt in this
>>70680700
>Yes you can
You really can't
>can't understand Ner'zhul
>can't understand the orcs' exodus
>can't understand why orcs and humans are fighting
>can't understand that orcs are aliens
>can't understand the blood curse
>can't understand the alliance/different human kingdoms relations to eachother
>can't understand Thrall
>can't Gul'Dans skull
I definitely missed plenty of stuff but that's just some of it
wc3-babies need to get out desu
>Those comical scenes of Grommash standing around in the background not doing anything.
>He was already established as a dindu so we can't show him doing any evil Orc things.
>>70680844
But anon.
Ner'zhul doesn't exist in the movie.
>>70680882
He does, he just isn't shown in the movie
Ner'Zhul was never even mentioned in WC1
>>70680940
Not even the books about the movie mention him.
He's gone.
>>70680844
Ner'zhul's role was given to Gul'dan in the movie as he's the one who unites orcs into Horde here so there's nothing to understand about Ner'zhul.
If they get to Wc3 and want to make Arthas Lich King they still won't mention Ner'zhul they'll just say he was corrupted by the Frostmourne.
It seems like Blizzard is trying to lower Ner'zhul's importance from the lore.
> if you know your lore
Sure thing senpai
>no Stormreaver clan or Shadow Council
>Gul'dan is apparently the leader of the horde
>Doomhammer is a Frostwolf
>Blackhand dies in honourable combat and not backstabbed
>Gul'dan doesn't end in a coma when Medivh dies
>Doomhammer doesn't become Warchief
>Stormwind doesn't get razed, Alliance formed anyways
>orcs are honorable warriors that dindu nothing wrong
>firearms in the first war
>Llane begs Garona to kill him, dies in battle
>Fel magic corrupts instead of demon blood
>Dalaran already floating
>No Ner'zhul
>Khadgar not being part of Kirin Tor and not being Med's apprentice
>>70680940
>Ner'Zhul was never even mentioned in WC1
Most things about WC1 weren't mentioned in WC1, they are from the WC2 manual.
>>70680940
>Ner'Zhul was never even mentioned in WC1
If you expect any of this revisionist shit to be mentioned in WC1 you're up for some disappointment anon.
>>70681013
>mention Blackrock clan
>Orgrim not chieftain
smdh
>>70681152
Orgrim is supposed to be second in command to Blackhand until he backstabs him.
Blackhand isn't backstabbed at all and Orgrim leaves the Horde so we'll never know which clan he was supposed to be in the movie.
>>70680827
Shes just a slave in the movie
>>70681202
What? Orgrim was in the Frostwolf Clan.
he literally says it when Durotan goes to challenge Gul'dan.
You can see him holding the banner in this webm >>70680135
>>70661102
Gul'Dan was one of the few things that were really good in the movie.
He's not done right, but it was good.
He was more of a leading from the shadows guy.
>>70681254
I thought it was never specifically stated, despite him being brown and buttbudies with Durotan.
Holy shit that's bad.
>>70664064
Ner'zhul wasn't relevant until wc2 expansion.
frostwolf is the lamest clan in the lore. shame they made Doomhammer part of it.
>>70681313
I don't think Metzen had created him yet.
>>70680354
>>70680325
In 2014 blizzard officially stated that they were part of his clothing when asked.
Hey I guess they forgot.
Like how they forgot about Gilneas until they needed worgens as a playable race, kul'tiras, and why sargeras is evil.
Bleeding Hollow clan are the real savages of the Horde
>>70681427
Most named characters already appeared in WC2, although most of the lore about them was retroactively created afterwards since WC2 is basically orcs = evil and humans = good.
Also I'll never not be mad about Lothar dying in a "honorable duel" with Doomhammer, that shit is literally canon, Metzen has no fucking shame.
>>70661178
Wi Tu Lo
>>70681427
Currently looking up and double checking.
He's mentioned in wc2 manual before the expansion.
So my bad he was kind of relevant before the expansion.
Not in wc1 though which the movie is based on.
>>70681477
>Also I'll never not be mad about Lothar dying in a "honorable duel" with Doomhammer, that shit is literally canon, Metzen has no fucking shame.
I saw one mention of that fight where it was vague.
Where the orcs claim it was a duel, and the humans claim it was an ambush.
Not sure if that source was actually canonical though, but I think that can make kinda sense.
It was an ambush though,I played that map and didn't type itisagooddaytodie fast enough.>tfw it is my fault that Lothar diedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe5JVJq5UlU
I liked it, but I have some issues, basically broken down into technical and story wise.
I didn't care or like the humans, both in aesthetics and acting. They sucked. Secondly, the pacing was odd. Hopefully the home media versions fix that.
As far as story, I'm let down that the Orc pantheon of badasses were left out. Grommash, Kilrogg, and Kargarh had no speaking roles; and there was no Nerzhul, Teron, Cho'gall, Varok, or Drek'thar at all. I was also let down by the changes to the ending, Khadgar isn't even life-drained into an old maneven though that was set up, Orgrim wasn't the one whokilled Blackhand, Stormwind wasn't razed, and Gul'dan didn'tfall into a coma when trying to scry Medivh's mind, which didn't happen at all.
>>70681829
They changed all that to appeal to normie fucking shits.
>>70680135
that looks like fucking shit
>>70681987
you look like fucking shit
>>70681829
>Grommash, Kargarh, Nerzhul
They shouldn't even be there.
>>70681882
They changed it to make the film not a 4 hour long clusterfuck. You're fucking deluded if you think any of the changes are bad. All of them make more sense and serve to make the film better. There's already a fucking pantheon of characters, so having Grom and Kargath and whoever would just make it into a total cluster fuck.
>>70682095
>You're fucking deluded if you think any of the changes are bad.
>>70681013
>>70681987
No shit sherlock, it's a fucking webm of some garbage cam rip of a scene then comes in the last 3/4 of the movie. Go watch the real thing then your judgement might mean something.
>>70682128
>GUYS THIS MOVIE ISN'T SHIT IF YOU GO PAY TO SEE IT
>I SWEAR
who /shatteredhand/ here
>>70682105
Don't be such an autist. They're never going to do a 1-1 adaptation of the story. It wouldn't work. All the shit in >>70681013 work better for the film.
>>70682188
Give a reason why, then.
>>70682161
Nah, Warsong have mounts.
Having wiping your ass, pleb.
>>70682149
Not a shill, just legitimately baffled at the negative bias towards this film, Especially since there are so many people who have decided to damn it to hell before even watching it. I gave it a chance and found it was more than above average, and I don't even care for Warcraft at all outside of Dota.
>>70679137
Fuck this gay earth. The OST was shit compared to original WC2 and WC3. Blizzard has GOAT OSTs and we get this shit, I'm glad I'm not the only one.
These tracks capture everything I assoociate with my youth,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMxAuqQatB4&list=PLD68579BFA0277AC9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAl6QBhkepY
At least there might be hope for a Starcraft movie eventually. Or a Game of Thrones kind of tv show.
>>70672318
Hows BVS? Not hitting a billion yet?>>70672376
>>70661102
>tfw OP is actually right
capeshit BTFO
>>70664421
The plural of medium is media
>>70682342
Quel'thanas rape can't come soon enough.
>>70680135When did his wolf die? I don't remember seeing that
>>70682210
Ever read Lord of the Rings? There's a ton of material not only cut, but also changed for the film. E.G Frodo and Sams master/servant relationship which is turned into a bromance to make the characters more likeable. So sometimes a change is to make the film more palatable, sometimes it's just a running time thing, E.G Tom Bombadil.
Warcraft the game series is just like a book. I don't know how long it is, but Warcraft 1, the game, has more than 2 hours in which to tell the version of the story that it does. In the film, they have to condense it into 2 hours without it turning into a mess. So they cut a few characters like the shadow council and Mannaroth, merge them all into Gul'dan and voila, Gul'dan is a stronger villian and we've also saved some screentime.
