>getting fired at? hide behind shield
>getting punched? hide behind shield
>attacked by a demigod? hide behind shield
>a fucking nuke blows above his head? hide behind shield
>falling down 15 stories? hide behind shield
>a grenade blows up? hide behind shield
>tony firing energy beams? hide behind shield
>someone calls him faggot? hide behind shield
>doesn't have enough money for hotel bill? hide behind shield
>gets confronted? hide behind shield
Whats his problem? Is he trying to find a safe space?
Because his superpower is being abnormally strong, but not super strong like actually strong heroes (Hulk, Spider-Man)
>>70648302
MCU Captain America is noticeably stronger than MCU Spider-Man.
>>70648389
No. Bucky's right arm overpowered Cap, and Spiderman easily caught Bucky's punch. Cap is just more experienced.
>>70648131
AAARRRGGGGHHHHH Tony please help hes got a metal arm
>>70648389
MCU captain america is about twice as strong as the strongest men.
Spiderman is what, 10 times as strong?
Why doesn't anyone shoot Cap's legs?
What's his shield made out of anyway?
AMERICA?
>>70648427
>>70648441
He swings Spider-Man around by his own web.
The guy who was lifting a bus over his head 6 minutes before this.
>>70648575
Spiderman is a lightweight, but still stronger.
>>70648575
he used Spiderman's strength against himself.
>>70648575
What does this mean? Spiderman is light enough for Cap to swing. Doesn't mean he is stronger. Spidey is probably 20x as strong as Cap.
>>70648575
Spiderman had no leverage, and weighs 90 pounds. Why would captain america have a hard time doing that?
>>70648131
Captain America is a Mary Sue
>>70648441
>Spiderman is what, 10 times as strong?
no
>>70648954
>spiderman weighs less than captain america
>people are confused when he lifts off the ground before captain america does
>thinks this means cap is stronger
>>70648954
Spider-Man is a teenage kid barerly weighing anything and got caught off guard, the fact that he easily bent Buckys arm, threw a car and held up a jet bridge proves he is far above Steve in strength
>>70648954
>6 cuts for no fucking reason
>>70649081
The bridge part alone makes him stronger than Cap. Not by much, but he could be about twice as strong when it comes to pulling off feats of strength easier.
>>70649156
Yeah, Cap pulling back the helicopter really upped his strength feats. Spidey's overall much better with his speed and reflexes included though.
>>70649156
>Not by much
Dude, Spiderman is in a entirely different league from Cap.
>>70648131
He has no problem, he has a fucking shield you mong.
>>70649156
Its not like it matters beyond the fact that he is physical stronger.
All you need to know is that Spiderman can throw arround cars and lift up jet bridges, trying to put clear numbers on their strenght just limit the characters and what they can do
>>70648389
you've literally never watched any marvel capeshit have you
>>70649051
>>70649081
Fucking Spidey fags
Redwing kicked his ass
>>70648575
Being strong doesn't mean weighing more, anon. Spider-man lifts 30 tons in the comics but he's just 70 kg, anyone can lift him.
>>70649142
Every cut have a purpose.
You're all retarded, Thor is strong and that's why he weights as much as the helicarrier. Hulk even weights more than the sun.
>>70648389
MCU spiderman is literally 100x stronger than cap
>>70649415
Are you trying to argue that because a drone lifted a 90 pound kid off his feet, that drone is stronger than the kid?
Cause it seems like you're arguing that, based on your previous posts with the same logic and captain america.
Lrn2physics
>>70648478
they tried in winter soldier he just held the shield lower and redirected the bullets at them
>>70649483
Ant-man kicked his ass too.
>>70649238
Cap pulling the helicopter is what puts him at roughly twice the strength of a peak human. Those things don't generate as much upward force as you would think. IIRC someone estimated it at about 1300 pounds of force upward.
>>70648575
Spiderman is like Thor.
Super super strong, but their arrogance and cockiness gets in the way of that.
Especially fighting strong people for the first time, they underestimate people.
Spiderman wasn't out to defeat Cap, merely a) keep him busy b) sort of apprehend
>This totally inexperienced with a super sense that hurts more than helps teenage hero isn't wining every combat?, the fuck?
He's faster, stronger and probably tougher than most heroes in CW, but he's a fucking kid. Cap barely stopped Bucky's punch and barely lifted a car, Spidey stopped Bucky's punch with one hand like fucking nothing and stopped and lifted a speeding card from hitting a bus, he's clearly stronger than Cap.
>>70648954
>>70649415
>>70649506
How does Spider-man hold all those L's?
>>70649469
The fuck are you on. Arguably, Bucky (at least in Winter Soldier mode, as he was pulling back his punches against Spidey) could wreck his shit up.
>>70648954
he's a kid in his new suit surrounded by "seasoned" adult heroes.
he was being cocky and irresponsible
>>70649529
That model of helicopter actually lifts up to 2300 tons, so I dunno who made those maths, but he should recheck them.
>>70649156
Everybody's stronger than Captain America, just not when they're fighting him.
I for one, can't wait for Cap to take Spiderman under his wing. They've always arguably had that relationship: captain America is the aging heart of the marvel universe, the inspiring leader, and Spiderman is the up and comer heart, just as heroic, but inexperienced, younger, and prone to mistakes.
>>70649576
>2300 tons
lmfao
>>70649564
>pulling his punches
I hate this meme where ever it happens
>>70649576
2.3 million kilograms, damn
>>70649564
even though spiderman casually holds his metal arm up admiring it
>>70649576
I'm retarded, meant kg.
>>70649564
Cap lifts around 2 tons
Spidey lifted a metal bridge that, according to internet, goes from 10 tons onwards.
>>70649637
It is true though. Notice his fighting style as both WS and Bucky. Bucky uses his less strong arm to punch and is defensive, while WS just relies on offense.
>>70649532
I think it'd be stupid if Cap won a tug-of-war with Thor, too.
>>70649576
3000 pounds is another estimate I've found. That would put him at about 6 times as strong as a peak human.
Still nothing on spidey.
>>70649702
I don't care
I hate the meme in any movie
>>70649702
>bucky uses his less strong arm to punch
Oh, like that time he punched at spidey with the more strong metal arm and spidey casually stops it with little effort?
>>70649702
WS would have recked Spide in CV, but not because he's faster, stronger or tougher.
>>70648441
in the comics spiderman is able to hold a building from falling down.
>>70649739
who said that?
>>70648131
he's alsways running with the shield up but they never shoot at his legs
Kek good thing I'm a Hulkfag
>>70649810
He is not even punching at his peak strength, though, as he realizes it is a fucking kid.
>>70649415
Does MCU Spider-man not have spider sense?
>>70650041
Find out in the next exciting issue. Spider-man: Homecoming.
>>70650041
He does, he dodges a car that come flying against him from behind, but like the comics and the original movies it only works when the plot demands it
Could be worse, he could be anonymously hiding behind a computer screen...
>>70648954
I hate how inconsistent spiderman's "spidey sense" is... like Cap would have better reflexes than spiderman.
Cap should have been running for his life every time spiderman attacked him.
>>70649929
>as he realizes it is a fucking kid.
Dude, literally nobody realizes he's a kid till way later
>>70650041
It's not really explained, he has "super senses" but seems more like it hurts than helps, that's why he has those googles, to keep him focused and ignore this "sense"
>>70649929
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. He has NO WAY to judge Spiderman's strength or endurance at a glance from literally meeting him seconds earlier. How the fuck will he judge how strongly to hit a guy that he NEVER ACTUALLY HIT before? If he was trying to not kill him with an arm that literally can tear metal off of things, then he should have kicked him or hit him with his normal arm.
>>70650185
So easy
>>70650041
>"Hey buddy I think you lost this! "
These characters weren't meant to exist in the same universe.
>>70650244
But they always have you fucking idiot.
>>70650244
Are you stupid?
>>70648653
Just shows that physical strength alone isn't enough to win a fight. Cap could kick Spidey's ass six ways to sunday purely on the grounds that Cap's had several years more experience. This has happened often in various comics.
>>70650244
>literally Amazing Spider-Man #1 (1963) has the fantastic four
>"weren't meant to exist in the same universe!"
>>70649466
lel wut
>>70650101
>fucking Peter on his fucking moped not even having a clue that a fucking green asshole on a hoverboard is hurtling towards him
Spider-Man 3 was a trainwreck.
>>70650316
Due to writer incompetence. No amount of experience will make up for the ridiculous physical difference in their capabilities and powers. Spiderman is faster, more durable, stronger, and has a fucking warning trigger for shit he doesn't already perceive with his normal senses.
>yfw the Airport fight basically gave us this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoBOEzlMKo0&index=184&list=WL
Glorious.
>>70649543
What is that gif from? Shit. So pretty...
>>70650382
Well Captain America has his name in the title of the movie
>>70650316
In this movie makes sense.
In comics never made sense, specially because the first time Peter and Steve met, Peter already was a seasoned hero, also Peter in the comics is like 100 times stronger than Cap (he lifts 30 tons on daily basis while cap barely lifts 500 kg), Peter is 30 times faster WITHOUT the spider-sense than average humans, and he can withstand much more damage than Cap. In comics is makes cero sense that Cap can win, if he does is because or Peter is pulling punches like a mofo, or he's treating the combat like a game, or the writer really doesn't know the fucking monster Spider-man really is.
This is basically Batman vs Superman without preptime and gadgets, Batman has no fucking chance no matter how experienced and how many martial arts he knows.
>>70649466
>Hulk even weights more than the sun
This is so outrageous, I like it.
>>70648131
Cap always win cuz he's America, faggot. Deal with it.
>>70650382
>writing in capeshits is shit
woah
who would have thought
>>70648954
>>70649415
>>70649506
People actually paid to see this piece of shit? So Marvel drones basically throw away their money year after year at everything Marvel puts on the screen?
>>70650382
And yet, despite all of these traits, we have seen Spider-Man exhausted to the breaking point fighting characters that could easily be beaten by Captain America.
The only explanation is that spider-senses aren't on 24/7, similar to how Johnny Smith from Dead Zone couldn't see the future whenever he wanted.
The speed, strength, and durability (which is actually his weakest trait aside from an ability to heal wounds a bit faster than average) are all nothing Cap hasn't dealt with before, to varying (and often victorious) results.
/tv/ is just buttmad that they're AHHH SAVE ME TONY meme got BTFO in the last few movies.
>>70650548
Spidey is surprisingly overpowered but he never gets to fight to his full potential because being that strong doesn't really fit the character of somebody the universe loves shitting on.
I honestly dont understand obligatory respect everyone in mcu show towards him
even his enemies respect him in some way
is it American thing?
weird me out every time it shows on the screen
>>70650548
Yeah, normies keep doing that
>>70650455
>no matter how experienced and how many martial arts he knows.
Karate kid, DC super hero that knows tons of martial arts but has no actual powers, once stopped a 10 km long meteorite with Aikido, this makes you rethink your life choices.
>>70650653
>>70648131
>>70650557
And yet, Batman keeps dodging light speeding speedsters, punching the shit out of Gods, surviving reentry on the atmosphere with no equipment, beating two fullpowered angry kryptonians using only martial arts, surviving being punched by an angry god through several meters of reinforced concrete walls, etc Why? because it's a fucking comic, if it had at least 1% of logic Batman should be fucking dead.
Writers dictate what happens, if a writer wants Aunt May to beat World War Hulk, Dr Strange, Thor Odison with the Odinforce, Galactus and many others at the same time in a fist fight, he will, that doesn't mean it makes sense.
>>70650268
>>70650309
>>70650318
I know marvel's been putting them into each other's stuff to cross-promote for years but that doesn't change the fact that they don't fit in each other's universe.
I actually like the fact that daredevil series acknowledges that he's just small fry cleaning up the mess the big guys left in New York because that's the best "not as blind as he's supposed to be man" should be capable of. Meanwhile every avengers movie has the dead weight characters with no attempt to justify their role in the final fight who are treated as equal members of the team.
>>70650739
If that means making Spider-Man less than what he's supposed to be (a fucking Mary Sue), then whatever it takes.
>>70650590
Because he was an international idol before they were even born and he was known as superhero jesus that died for their sins. There's no doubt that after his "death" his accomplishments and heroic personality were over exaggerated for propaganda purposes. Tony said he used to hate Cap as a kid because all he heard about growing up was how great he was.
>>70650736
I haven't seen it yet, does he decapitate Tony?
>>70650756
You are aware that Spider-Man debuted in the Marvel Universe, right? MCU always considered the possibility of buying Spider-Man. You'd be dumb as shit to think otherwise.
How did Cap not shatter his hand punching Tony in the suit?
SIERRA
>>70650548
well said DCbro!
>>70650812
Cap kept a Helicopter down without ripping of his arms.
The guy is durable as fuck
>>70650810
no.
but in the soon to be released ultimate edition for Blu Ray only, there is an extended, directors cut. rated R. in this version and this version only, Cap DOES decapitate Stark.
so pre order!
>>70650776
>If he can beat Captain America means he's a Mary Sue
The fuck are you talking about? Cap is only peak human, retard, he isn't Thor, Hulk, Vision, etc.
>>70650921
no. Batman is peak human. can Batman curl a chopper and punch Iron Man without bruises? no
Cap is superhuman
>>70650921
No, having a magical psychic ability that's not supposed to turn off is, howerver, a characteristic that only a Mary Sue could have.
>>70650776
>Anyone who is above peak human is a Mary sue
So literally 99.99% of the Superheroes.
It's odd though, I think people like Batman are the real Mary Sues even though he has no actual powers.
Is Bucky as strong as Cap?
>>70650921
>Cap is only peak human
Not in this universe, dumbass.
>>70650990
>>70650921
Samefag. Don't bother denying it.
>>70650983
Just because it warns you from danger doesn't mean youre fast enough to dodge it, Spidey is fast, but he isn't super fast.
Also Spider sense can be tricked, if the danger comes from different directions Spidey has no way to react to all of them. Spider sense also reacts to immediate danger, so you could trick it with a special feint or simply by forcing Spidey to take the hit, for example hostages, etc. It's like you never read the comics his comics. He doesn't win because he has Spider sense, he wins because he was the first hero to invent the preptime, yes, spidey was using preptime before Batman in the comics.
Why do you lot keep talking about comic books for children instead of the movies for adults based on them? You don't even try to disguise it! You just talk about comic books, and you're on /tv/!
Stop it!
>>70651031
So Iron-man, Hulk, Thor, Vision, Warmachine, Ant man, and any other superhero stronger than Cap is a Mary Sue?
>>70651076
Pot meet kettle, no need to deny it either
>>70648131
He's the living embodiment of SJW outrage culture. And SJWs love him.
It's pottery.
friendly reminder that Batman is literally the worst "super" "hero" of all time.
>no powers
>human
>with no holding back, anyone beats him
this makes me happy :)
>>70651200
>unfortunate everymen, advanced technology or aliens, and genius multibillionaires who end up becoming extraordinary, either biologically or by design, most if not all being adored or at least known by millions
Yep. Every last one of them, including Cap.
>>70648954
>Spider-mans web is attached to a gadget on his arm
>He grabs on and then Cap pulls him
>The man with incredible reflexes doesn't let go of something he's fucking holding on to
This fucking film
>>70651289
>with no holding back, anyone beats him
Seems you never read any Batman comic from the 80s, I envy you, because Batman literally beats anyone even if they don't hold back since the last 30 years.
>>70651289
What about Punisher?
He has literally no powers and isn't even that smart or skilled.
>>70651343
he also forgot to stick to the ground with his, you know, spider crawling powers. I'm going to assume it was his dia primero.
>>70651289
Yeah, every time Superman loses to Batman it's only because he got jobbed. Superman's already proven (post-silver age) that he can fly hundreds of times past the speed of light without breaking through the speedforce, lift a book that logically has no finite weight (which is fucking impossible), punch the fabric of space and time, and can sing a universe out of destruction.
If Superman never held back Batman would barely manage to say that he challenged Superman to a fight before instantaneously disintegrating in the middle of the Sun.
>>70650597
>Normies
Wait, you fags are using the "normies" excuse? Normies also enjoy such crap as Twilight and Adam Sandler.
>>70651365
He killed Hulk using only a bow and an arrow.
>>70651422
Could Superman defeat a Beyonder?
>>70651365
>isn't even that smart or skilled
He's a godtier tactician and has had decades of practice. He may not be booksmart, but that doesn't mean he isn't smart where it counts.
>>70651477
Considering how often Superman's done the impossible, I wouldn't put it past him.
>>70651352
>even if they don't hold back
I don't care if that's what the writers wrote.
Batman can't beat Speedforce Flash, a no mercy Superman and Wonderwoman, a pissed off Green Lantern and MM.
he literally cannot compete in ANY sort of way. sure he's smarter but being smarter in a deathmatch won't save you. and it's not like the rest are meatheads.
Batman is literally the most useless hero. and as >>70651365 said, yes Punisher is human too but at least Punisher has zero problems killing bad guys, crooks and ANYONE.
How bullshit is Captain America in the MCU?
In the comics he can
>Function at full capacity for up to 2 weeks with a 10 minute nap
>Instantly recall any piece of information he was given at any point in his life
>Think and react near the speed of sound
And many other pieces of utter bullshittery that completely negates any other Super Human in Marvel
>>70651530
>Batman can't beat Speedforce Flash, a no mercy Superman and Wonderwoman, a pissed off Green Lantern and MM.
He's beaten all of those though
>>70651543
MCU is canonically a separate universe, similar to the Ultimates universe or DC's Earth-23.
So, since he's only required to follow rules as dictated by his own plane of existence, he's no more bullshit than main universe Cap. He also seems to be a little weaker thus far based on what you described.
>>70651584
again, I don't care if it's what the writers wrote. plot armor and prep time aren't powers.
if a world where these supers existed, realistically, they would never lose to a human with no powers.
>>70651652
MCU Cap is stronger than 616 Cap, like way stronger. 616 Cap barely lifts 1100 pounds, but the one from MCU seems to be stronger than that, as for other powers like speed thinking and in-fatigability, I dunno.
>>70651584
How? Don't hide behind "muh preptime" either.
>>70648666
All superheroes are.
>>70651729
Yet people seem to be ok with Captain America beating Spider-man in comics.
>>70651754
It was the speed thinking and lack of any need for rest that made me feel MCU was a bit weaker. Both would be just as vital as, if not more than, physical strength.
>>70651791
Captain America is at least above Batman in physical and military prowess.
and Spidey isn't a world beater like Flash and Superman.
>>70651530
>Batman can't beat Speedforce Flash, a no mercy Superman and Wonderwoman, a pissed off Green Lantern and MM.
Yeah but he has, though. His entire shtick is to have a deadhand if the JLA goes rogue.
>Speedforce Flash
He used some kind of seizure inducing bullet on Flash that means when he enters the speedforce he begins seizing up, leaving Flash as a human
>No mercy Superman
In Hush he beats down a no mercy brain controlled Superman using krypotinite catridges, and in various other comics by first weakening Supes then beating him down with further krypotinite. There's a few times he's gotten Supes close to death using this, and he has the means to do so on him at all times.
>Wonder Woman
Something to do with suggestion and a bullet that causes her to perceive reality different, thus can't fight.
>Green Lantern
His weakness is literally the color yellow, he's beaten him many times just by taking the ring away from him. He's got a device that renders him blind if you uses the ring against Batman or something, I can't remember the details
>Martian Manhunter
Batman has a device on him at all times that can turn the MM's skin in to magnesium, which bursts in to flame when exposed to oxygen, even in air.
>>70651757
Martial arts, pressure points, Tibetan meditation (to beat MM's telepathic abilities), etc. He beat the entire justice league with stuff like this.
He once even kicked Hulk so hard in the stomach he forced him to breath and get knocked out with a sleeping gas bomb.
>>70651876
Still, Spidey is, at worse, 20x everything than Cap.
>>70651757
>Preptime
It's no longer preptime if he has the shit on him at all times in case of a JLA member going rogue.
This is the plot of like 5 pretty big DC arcs, guys. It doesn't depend on Batman having prep time, it depends on Batman being in the vicinity and deducing that it's time to put the plans in to action.
>>70651729
>I don't care what the writers who write the capeshit say, in the real world muh headcanon happens!
In the "real world" Batman, at peak human condition and wildly paranoid with a shit load of money, would be able to do all these things. If superpowers exist, Batman can exist as he does.
Spidey can be pretty strong.
>>70651918
Yes, superman's weakness is pressure points.
Again, if Superman decided to just obliterate lightspeed (which he has often done) the second he realized (he can also, impossibly, hear sounds from hundreds of light years away) that Batman was about to attack him, it would only take a microscopic fraction of a second to transport Batman to the middle of the nearest star. It would look like he fucking teleported to it. That's how fast Superman has flown.
>>70651899
Tower of Babel was hilarious
>All these things happen to render the Justice League defeated
>Comes time to defeat Batman
>They just distract him with busy work
That entire premise was HILARIOUS.
>>70652006
True
>>70652054
Anon...Silver Age Superman isn't canon, and modern Superman doesn't fly that fast or think that fast
>>70652102
Everything I've said has happened in modern age mainstream Superman.
>>70652006
What did MJ do that was so stupid?
>>70652166
Show me where he traveled so fast he got to the nearest star in a fraction of a second.
>>70652074
He's still light weight tier compared with many many other Marvel characters
>>70648131
what the fuck do you think a shield is for
>>70648131
He should just build a wall, like a real American.
>>70649901
that's because they all know he never skips leg day.
>>70649901
I think it's the same as Batman's emblem. Provide mooks a target (Shield on Cap, reinforced emblem on Bats) and they stupidly aim at it.
No excuse for the heroes not to sweep the legs though
>>70652213
Vega is 25 light years away. It took him maybe about ten minutes (tops) to fly from Vega to Earth, after getting a message that he logically should not have detected in such a short span of time.
>>70649415
In that film he's not even old enough to post here and just began his career less than a year ago. He probably hasn't even fought powered foes until then.
>>70652369
He's holding on to the web anon
>>70649142
You need to make your movies like Pewdiepie videos if you want to get millenials money
really makes you think, huh?
>>70652357
Time dilation, mate. Lorenz factors and stuff.
>>70652357
who would win
flash or superman
>>70652357
Just to clarify that means he's officially flown 2.5 light years in 1 minute, or 1.25 light years in 30 seconds.
The sun is 8 light MINUTES away. 8 minutes pass 65,700 times in a single year. In 30 seconds he can travel that distance in around 657,000 light minutes.
>>70652639
Whoops. Phrased that long.
He can travel 657 thousand light minutes in a span of 30 seconds, ten times the distance that it takes the Sun's rays to hit Earth.
>>70652531
It wouldn't make a notable difference considering the extremity of that distance. Batman would be toast before even his superior mind could connect what just happened.
>>70652635
Considering Flash can't even hit that speed without becoming part of the speedforce, I'd say that Superman wins by default. All thanks to one shitty writer who happened to like the name "vega".
>>70652357
He probably would've had to slow down a shitload before entering Earth. How much damage to an atmosphere can something moving that fast do?
>>70652983
Someone calculated that a light speed punch by Superman could make as much damage as a 45 megaton bomb.
>>70653240
Goddamn.
>>70652369
But can he dodge bullets?
>>70648131
>complaining about a superhuman when robotic batman is the star of the avengers
"MUH money"
"MUH suit"
>>70651365
For the sake of my sanity I hope this is b8
>it's a capeshit powerlevel thread
Oh boy.
>>70650869
Also got blown through a bus in ws
>>70653331
Does spiderman die if he gets shot? Like I know he is strong/climb walls/ect, but hes not bulletproof, right?
>>70653729
this is why you slide these threads as hard as you can, ~10 posts after this one I'm going to come in hot
>>70653978
He can just turn his webslingers on himself for instant bandaging.
He has the proportionate self-healing power of a spider, after all.
>>70653978
Heart or headshot would likely kill him.
>>70653978
A lot of superheroes would die if a machinegun fired in their general direction, but it conveniently never happens.
>>70651365
I was always under the impression that Frank Castle died when he got shot, but "supernaturally" came back to life.
Then when he gets shot at by mobsters etc bullets either miss him or just go straight through him. Or did a bullet to the head just switch off his pain receptors?
I might be talking complete shit. I don't really know much about him and cba googling it. Was he ever "supernatural undead" Punisher?
>>70654266
It happens all the time. They all just know how to defend against it or at least get lucky.
>>70654156
>bullet to the brain
>let me just put on this spider band-aid real quick
>>70653331
your bait is terrible
why are retards comparing characters from everything to another
the point is to compare one MCU character to another MCU character and base the versus of that.
not unconnected comic books or other movies that arnt even in the MCU
spaccas
>>70654281
You're talking about Frankencastle I think, which was so far out there it was a different animal entirely.
Fun comic apparently, but it ain't how I see Frank.
Classic Frank is just a nonpowered war vet who was very good in Vietnam and never mentally left the jungle.
>>70654353
I'm still laughing at the guy who thought it was realistically feasible to win a deathmatch with Superman.
>>70648131
didnt Ultron shoot Cap at point blank range right in the chest?
Oh that's right, nobody remembers age of ultron.
>>70653978
He's tougher than humans, but not bulletproof, low caliber bullets would damage him, but unless is not a vital point they probably won't kill him.
Pic related is a way above average human (Punisher) punching Spider-man as hard as he can.
I remember a comic in where a bouncer punched Peter's face and ended with both hands broken.
>>70654156
Ah yes, bandages cure bullet wounds. Silly me.
Also, do spiders heal faster than a normal human?
I am pretty sure the only healing they do is through molting and that only happens a limited number and at specific times.
>>70654355
Forgot pic.
>>70654355
haha oh right
but was regular Frank Castle never superhuman in the sense he never dies?
or is just because it's pure luck, skill and fear he puts into people that he never dies despite the odds? did a bullet to the head make his pain threshold x100.
they did a decent job showing a normal guy whose gone physic in Netflix Daredevil. He takes beat down upon beat down but just keeps going and kicks everyone's ass.
>>70654388
I did not see this post coming.
>>70654298
That's what I mean.
They're either protected by plot armor, or the writers avoid the scenario completely.
Their chance to avoid getting hit by a machine gun is probably similar to the chance of walking through rain and not being hit by a single raindrop, even with retarded reflexes or shields.
>>70648575
HURR DURR WEIGHT EQUALS STRENGTH LOL
>>70648131
>that moment in infinity wars part 1 where ironman gives captain his shield back
>>70654379
Many characters stomp superman sideways. Notably anything that has intangible abilities or astal/magic realm powers.
>>70654428
physco*
>>70649458
to make it look atrocious
>>70654476
that would have some weight if they weren't pen pals at the end of civil war
Feige or Russo Brothers went full Joss Whedon at that part. Tony should have ripped up the letter or something to signify that he still loathes Cap.
but no. the flick was way to fucking safe and it's starting to disgust me.
>>70654532
It looks fantastic with a kinetic pace.
>>70654476
And also Black Panther lent him some vibranium to make a new shield, so he's going into the epic final boss battle dual wielding shields.
>>70654407
A lot of spider-man's powers come from a time where people didn't know much about spiders and a lot of shit was more myth than actual abilities, we're forgetting he's from the 60s.
>>70654478
Superman consistently holds back. We've already established that only truly godlike magical entities would stand a chance. Someone who has no innate metahuman ability, like Batman, wouldn't stand a chance, even with preptime.
>>70654593
never become a director
it's pretty clear that caps wakanda shield will be cracked in half by Thanos and Tony will throw him the old one.
>>70654393
Here taking a punch from someone slightly enhanced.
>>70654571
>pen pals
Do you really think Tony felt good reading that letter?
He looked just as betrayed and hurt as he had before he read it. The letter didn't work.
>>70654478
>Many hack writers job superman to make their character seem cooler
Nothing that hasn't been said time and time again.
>>70654475
An untrained 400 lbs man will always be stronger than an untrained 150 lbs man.
Your base strength is proportional to your bodyweight.
>>70654669
he should have tore it up and hit the bottle
but no, muh kids movie. fkov
>>70654475
If you found a guy twice as strong as you, you would have a hard time pulling him around.
If you found a guy twenty times as strong as you, you would have an impossible time moving him. Especially if he had some special ability that allowed it to be nigh impossible for him to lose his footing.
Cap basically had to overcome both peters strength and his spider like ability to cling to things. In this case being the ground.
Spiderman can hold vast amounts of weight while attached to a wall. So his ability to cling to the ground should not be taken lightly. While he doesn't weight much in terms of mass, he certainly doesn't get pushed and pulled around easily.
>>70648954
There is no reason Cap should have been able to pull him off his feet unless Cap in MCU is far stronger.
>>70654729
dude game of thrones lmao
a girl does not no lmao
dude where are u face change man lmao ayyy cockles
I would kill everyone in the MCU.
I want a Doom Patrol movie.
>>70654771
Did excessive ironic shitposting turn you into an actual retard?
>>70654730
Then he should've raped and murdered Cap's new bitch then mailed him her head, huh, Snyder?
>>70654730
There's a reason Iron Man 2 felt like something important was missing.
That something was the drinking problem that Favreau wanted to explore, but couldn't.
>>70654814
I'm not sure if the world is quite ready for that.
>>70654742
>Using irl logic
Irl a 60 kg kid can't lift 10 tons.
Also, Cap has a hard time keeping that helicopter (with lifting capacity of around 2 tons) in check, Cap also had a hard time holding a car in AoU (lets assume the sedan was also around 1-2 tons). Meanwhile Peter does pic related. And I can assure you that's way more than 2 tons.
>>70648131
ah tony help.
>>70654927
Quiz fight would look rad on screen.
>>70654827
>stark known to be an alcoholic and turn to drink even outside of the MCU
>conflict caused by cap that fucked a lot of shit up including his best friend
>not with pepper
>made a fool of infront of the government
>sent a basically "in your face" letter
why would he not hit the bottle and rip up the letter, it's in his nature and character arc you fucking cuck
spiderman is one of the strongest fuckers in marvel comics
this obviously applies to the MCU, but just because we've seen some of him in one movie does not mean we can sum up his strength.
>>70648131
Are you jealous? Can't afford a shield?
>>70655198
>spiderman is one of the strongest fuckers in marvel comics
He's strong, but not that strong, I literally can name 10 marvel heroes that are stronger than him and I'm not even that much into comics.
>>70648131
Those things are what shields are designed for, are they not?
>>70654964
>irl logic
>entire argument is about his superpower to cling to things
Yeah sure.
>Also, Cap has a hard time keeping that helicopter (with lifting capacity of around 2 tons) in check
Yeah, or maybe Cap just didn't want to go all out and fling it across the continent because his buddie was inside. Literally earlier in the movie he kicks a several ton truck with one leg like it's a cereal box.
>>70649466
>calls other people retarded
>doesn't know how to spell a common word like "weighs"
>>70655260
maybe in meme universe today sure
>>70655308
>I'm just holding back
Yeah, this face says how much is he not using all he has
Fucking watch the movie before commenting shit from it
>>70655308
exactly
it's like the same with superman in MOS when he's straining holding the oil rig up, he doesn't want to use all his strength because it would snap immediately, instead he has to focus which in turn makes them strain.
>>70655461
ever thought he was trying not to snap either bars? if he continued pulling on the yellow bar it probably would have snapped.
>>70655432
Not even today, look, this is from the 60s.
where's the mods when ya need em, fucking crabs.
can u all piss off to /co/ coz ur shitting up my board
>>70655461
He has to keep it stabilized and controlled. He can't just yank on it.
Spiderman would do the same thing. Hold it in place. If either of them used any more strength that what Cap is using here it would be yanked over and crash.
Bucky recognizes and concedes that he can't pull away from him. Cap wasn't at his limit at all.
>>70655489
>>70655308
Then Peter is also holding back to not snap the landing bridge, he could lift it easily with one finger but he didn't want to break it from the pressure.
>>70650116
The best spider sense is when it's about air currents brushing over his weird spider-hairs.
Spider-sense is balanced when it's about warning Pete of surprise attacks, not code for super speed plus omniscience. He's already stronger and faster than tons of heroes and villains, he doesn't need spider-sense to be active in every moment of a fight or when he's looking at someone that's about to punch him.
>>70655489
>>70655308
Cap tries to hold a stationary car during Age of Ultron and you can see in his face is not easy at all.
Spider-man stops and speeding one easily in youtube footage.
>>70655636
grow up
>>70655819
then the bumper snaps off
proving our point
>>70655140
>LE alcoholic Stark meme
Maybe in the comics, /co/cksucker.
>>70655829
>I coming up with bullshit reasons on why cap is stronger, yet when another anon says literally the same shit I'm going to call him a kid
Woah, literally muh character is stronger rebuttal to another muh character is stronger. Now try to point out some facts instead of your head canon that literary no one else thinks.
>>70655859
The bumper doesn't snaps when spider-man stops the speeding car ;^). Anti bumper snapping powers?
>>70655636
Sorry bro. Peter gets pinned by it. Cap even knows he can't even get out. That was his limit.
Not to mention peter getting dragged around by falcon's glider which probably exerts the force of a hamster wheel.
>>70650486
that gif made me kek. can never have too much of Problematic Laughter
>>70650041
probably, but it didn't fit the plot as the other guy said. The only time i really felt that his spider sense should have warned him was during the ant man surprise attack
>>70656003
Peter weighs 60-70 kg, his weight has nothing to do with his strength.
Thor weighs 100 kg, does that mean he isn't strong? or that he's just as strong as Cap who also weighs 100 kg?
>>70656083
Cap parried Thor's mightiest attack, we already know Cap is stronger than him.
>>70651031
>another fuck doesn't understand what peak human means when you're talking about cap
>>70655461
Chris Evans severely injured his arms doing that scene. Fucked up his shoulders or his biceps, i don't recall which.So there was very little mechanical help there. He was practically pulling the weight of that helicopter himself.
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>>70656083
Just like his strength, one of his powers is to cling to things. Yet he is getting dragged off by a glider.
Maybe you need to consider that his powers are weaker than you think.
>>70650756
>>70650244
this
>>70650811
are you retarded? He's pointing out that the likes of Hawkeye and and Widow is treated as "equals" and the movies constantly finds small bullshit things for them to do to make them appear an important part of the team
the comics does this too tho
>>70656227
That meme died when Tony couldn't even beat him in full costume.
