>directors you liked at one point but now realize to be pleb.
Tarantino
>>70575948
The Master and Inherent Vice were pure kino that most people didn't get
>>70577743
Never liked him
>>70577743
Is there anybody here who didn't go through a Tarantino phase?
Jewbrick
John Carpenter. He didn't make a good movie past the 70s.
>>70577783
>pure kino
So you're saying they were pure shit? Gotcha.
>>70577783
>The Master
yes
>Inherent Vice
lol, no
>>70577813
>the thing
>they live
>escape from new york(debatable though tbqh)
Seriously anon?
>>70575948
Wes Andersen
>>70577797
Awful taste
>>70575948
how is PTA pleb? that just doesn't make sense. Have you seen TWBB?
>>70577785
I didn't. I like his films but I don't obsess over the man or his work.
>>70577869
His work with Kurt Russell is awful. They Live is fun, but it's really just a neat b movie.
Malick
Tsukamoto
Fassbinder (still like him for the cinematograhy)
Ceylan
gone full circle on Kubrick, now I love him again
>>70577783
The Master and Inherent Vice are empty "pretend kino".
PTA was less insufferable when he was just pumping out ADHD capeshit schlock like Boogie Nights and Magnolia, he got extra bad when he started to believe his hype and then decided he'd make fake kino epics.
Punch Drunk Love is the only film he has made where I don't want to punch every person who has ever enjoyed it in the jaw.
>>70577891
TWBB is the poster movie for '16 year old video game player who has now decided he is a "cinephile"'
Next step on the pleb ladder after the teenager finally grows out of Finchertino.
quentin tarantino is the ultimate pleb casual filter
>>70578005
Nah TWBB is very good
>>70577918
>not enjoying Veronika Voss despite its flaws
kys
>>70578005
what if you lay the buzzwords aside and actually explain your opinion about the movie?
>>70577848
Uh oh pleb alert. IV is one of the best of the decade
>>70578082
People without in-depth cinematic training can enjoy it and feel like they *get* the power of cinema so it is infantile trash. It is constructed to make plebs feel smart.
>>70578078
If there's a RWF I love unconditionally it's World on a Wire, it's a 4 hour movie I would have no problem rewatching like every month. Also Despair is very underrated.
>>70577783
Yep, you're right. Plebs can't into his last two movies
>>70578150
If you've never seen The Long Goodbye, sure
>>70577785
Me, I always disliked tarantino
Also obviously Kubrick. When you start watching more films, you realize Kubrick isnt that good
Tarkovsky
Kubrick
Bresson
Hitchcock
Ford
Ophüls
Bergman
Antonioni
Brakhage
Lynch
Mekas
Buñuel
Truffaut
also
>>directors you disliked at one point but now realize to be patrician geniuses.
Godard
>>70578073
TWBB is a film that plebeians flock to in awe, because they are nearly completely underexposed to cinema. It is a film which exposes the tasteless, time after time.
>>70577918
Malick is probably the best director alive
>>70578244
says the redditor
>>70578200
I have seen The Long Goodbye and it was incredibly boring. Anderson absorbed whatever skill Altman had and used his style to create an anxious, experimental tone that Altman was either to callow or unintelligent to work in.
>>70578194
When I saw The Master the screen was full of fedora clad teenagers rustling their popcorn bags and whooping at the screen whenever PSH did anything "based" so I think you're wrong.
>hear them whispering about the cinematography and politely clapping throughout the film
Got I wanted to tear our their throats. When this shot happened I distinctly remember one of them muttering "fukken masterpiece" before shoving a fistfull of popcorn into his fat face. Whenever I see this shot while rewatching it I start to get rage shivers just seeing this image.
>>70578285
Who said you could post directly at me, 2014+ poster?
>>70578331
>I have seen The Long Goodbye and it was incredibly boring
This post tells you all you need to know about the PTA championing millennial pleb squad.
>>70577883
You take that back or I'll kiss you!
>>70578239
Agree except for Hitchcock
>>70578165
is your mind actually so warped that you see it as bad, in itself, that people can understand a film? To make plebs feel smart isn't at all the themes of the film. Seriously you are one retarded faggot.
>>70578465
You'll grow out of him eventually. Every director is a brand new stepping stone for you to use up and then throw away. A mountain to be climbed.
>>70578390
Name one exciting or interesting thing about it. Name just one single thing about that movie that Chandler didn't do better in the book. I'll wait.
>>70578331
>>70578488
No matter what the intentions of the director were, the film got released, plebs saw it and felt smart.
That means society is worse for the film existing. Film should blow plebs out of the water, not enabling them. Making a pleb friendly movie is patting the video game playing degenerates on the head. Enabling plebs is disgusting in any instance.
>>70578512
Film isn't there to excite or interest. It is not your video game. It is not there to serve you.
>>70578512
>T-the book is better
Alright, well at least we know this poster is 15 at most
>>70578239
What directors do you like now? Honest question, I'm assuming your post is legitamate
>>70578333
That sounds fucking awful, but fanbase does not define the movie. That's a retarded thing to say
>>70578390
That was someone else btw. I like both IV and The Long Goodbye
>>70578239
You forgot about Fassbinder.
>>70578610
Cameron
Mendeluck
Rohmer
Anderson
Bay
Vardes
Tarr
Sokurov
>>70578655
>fanbase does not define the movie
X's fanbase always defines X.
If X was good in the first place it wouldn't be allowing bad people to engage with it.
>>70578596
>Film isn't there to excite or interest. It is not your video game. It is not there to serve you.
Spoken like a true pseud. Denying emotional involvement in films reveals you as a superficial child who is more concerned with how others perceive him than understanding and enjoying art. Now begone, pseud; I'm finished with you.
>>70578601
Please stop trying to comment on a film with a limited knowledge of the context is was produced within. You're embarrassing yourself but you don't realize it.
>>70578747
>Denying emotional involvement in films reveals you as a superficial child who is more concerned with how others perceive him than understanding and enjoying art. Now begone, pseud; I'm finished with you.
>>70578747
Art is not there to be enjoyed. If you "enjoyed" a work of "art" then it wasn't fucking art in the first place. It was a hot pocket. A capeshit. A pandering video game slice of masturbation. Art should be hurting your mind and soul every second you are looking in its direction.
>>70578556
ok, now i know your baiting. But just in case; go get treatment.
>>70578813
I have only ever been serious. Irony and fraud is the meme domain.
>>70578610
>>70578676
This post is an imposter with abhorrent taste.
My actual favorite filmmakers:
Abulu
Kasdan
Frampton
Florey
Ruttmann
Warhol
Afolayan
Pasolini
Potter
Cocteau
>>70578778
>>70578808
Since you two illiterates didn't understand my post, here it is again, this time simplified for your mediocre brains:
>Now begone, pseud; I'm finished with you.
>>70578944
That fact that you're both of these posters is awesome.
>>70578778
>>70579126
Malick, Zulawski, Linklater, Altman, Kiarostami, Ceylan, Bergman, Dreyer, etc.
You're the fedora, budeh. Go watch some experimental shorts and impress the lads on Letterboxd.
>>70578208
>When you start watching more films, you realize Kubrick isnt that good
What do you mean by this?
>>70579287
If you've only ever eaten slops from the garbage your entire life then McDonalds might seem like a tasty meal, but once you leave home and gain access to other more sophisticated foods you'll learn that McDonalds was actually pretty bad.
>>70579126
I unironically like most of those films
>>70579126
Desperately needs an update. Any fedoracore chart without stuff like Mad Max, The Hunt and Prisoners is very out of date.
>>70579210
>Malick, Zulawski, Linklater, Altman, Kiarostami, Ceylan, Bergman, Dreyer, etc.
Why are you listing a bunch of mediocre directors to me? Do you...do you think they represent good taste in cinema?
>>70578747
>Now begone, pseud
>>70578944
>Now begone, pseud
Darren Aronofsky. I still love Pi and The Fountain, but Requiem, Black Swan and The Wrestler weren't as good as I remembered when I rewatched them, and then Noah was just an utter failure on every level.
>>70578239
this is bait
>>70577785
I'm sure some people on here didn't. But most of the people that didn't and vehemently argue that they never liked him definitely did. People love to pretend they were always patrician. For some reason they fear admitting they once enjoyed standard fare.
>>70577848
Inherent Vice is awesome you pleb
>liking legitimately great directors because they're too popular
this is actual quantifiable autism. this is like 85 autism.
>>70578005
>Buzzwords: The Post
>>70580676
*disliking
>>70577933
You're a punk bitch and I'd kick your ass if you were in a room with me
>>70578009
I like Tarantino movies, but this is truth. If someone thinks Tarantino is a Top 5 director or they think Django was anything better than a 7/10, you have a pleb on your hands
>>70578150
Two things:
1) I have seen The Long Goodbye, but despite the similarities in the personalities of the main characters, they are very different films,
2) The Long Goodbye came out in the 70s. Even if you view IV as a homage to the old gumshoe detective films, having seen TLG doesn't negate the fact that IV is one of the best of the '10s.
>>70579354
Directors admit he's good, why such a pseudo-cult like you have such a dificulty to admit he's good?
>>70578944
I'm pretty sure you're either the edgelord cinema student or a guy who googled SUPER UNDERRATED DIRECTORS XD
>>70578867
Irony and Fraud were done by the greatest minds in literature/arts. The memers can't even get close to them.
Edgar Mrugalla is an example.
>>70578808
Your definition of art is really poor, the way you refer to it, it seems that the director can only do ambiguous work and can't be approachable at all. Which means you have a pre-conceived opinion about art and you can't comprehend nor experience different points of view. If I'm the artist and want to do a script with a lot of wholes for the spectator not understand, am I being an artist? My vision will never be understood, therefore, I'm a bad artist. Nice b8 tho.
>>70578556
The movie is bad because regular people liked it? You have a lot of culture-jealousy, I've had that before, it'll reach to a certain point that you'll be full bovarysme
>>70578506
It works more like an cycle, when you reached the apex, you'll have to go to the lowest forms of art, because those are not pretentious at all, and that's why they're the best, then you'll start to follow the same road again, until you realize that you can still like the same director forever.
I know you're b8, because someone posted something simmilar to this in some other thread.
>>70578333
So you paid to go see this movie, and got your jimmies rustled when others in the theater liked the movie? What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>70578596
Jesus Christ. You are beyond saving. THESE ARE COMMERCIAL FILMS YOU FAGGOT. They weren't made to be played in a fucking art museum.
>>70575948
the motherfucker made TWBB. He could make shit for the rest of his career (which he hasn't) and it won't matter.
>>70580984
VIDEO GAME PLAYERS liked the movie. How can you defend any work that literal autistic infantilized beta males are able to get good feelings from. If you are white then video game players are your enemy. If PTA is allied with the video game players as evidenced by his cinema sensibilities then PTA is your enemy,
PTA, every 13 year old white boy has a PTA phase.
>>70577785
Me. Thank God. If I had watched his shit a few years earlier I might have.
>>70577783
I'm really thankful for this kino meme because I know to just throw away all posts that use it.
>>70578239
Most of those are good but Tarkovsky, Bresson, and Bergman have a really awful online fanbase that makes me embarrassed that I used to be really into Bergman (I still like him). I'm glad you saw the Godard light though.
>>70578285
PTA is one of reddit's absolute most beloved directors.
>>70581045
>the motherfucker made TWBB
Any hack in the movie industry could have made that hotpocket tier teenage boy flick. It's just that every single director other than PTA had the decency not to.
I'd say that movie alone would have cemented him as one of the worst cinema terrorists of our times, even if everything else he made was a masterpiece, which they weren't.
I am sat here naked and covered in sweat, drumming on my chest in the dark and even right now I know that I am a more positive force in the cinema landscape than this autism enabling baby man, PTA.
>>70581084
If you are really this narcissistic then you probably should be at a University or something talking about art with professors or something. Why you would choose to post on fucking 4chan is beyond me. Unless all your posting is bait. Then I guess I get it.
>>70579354
I am not so sure about that, Kubrick might not be avant garde but he is a very high tier director
Fincher duh
>>70581186
I've been thrown out of every school I attended. 4chan is free from such censorship.
Tarantino.
I perused this entire thread and came away with the opinion that all the haters in this thread are severely autistic. You don't have to like PTA or Kubrick, but you act like they make schlock. If you're too "smart" and feel like their films are entry level or whatever you choose to call them from your high horse, whatever. Don't watch them. But it's not like they're making capeshit or Transformers. They make movies that have well thought out themes and usually great acting and package it in a form that's fairly easy to digest. To a lot of people, that's a very valuable service. If you're a fucking mensa member and only like films that you deem "high art" then watch your movies and shut the fuck up. If you're so much smarter than everyone then you should feel the need to prove it. But you do because people don't like you, so at the very least you want others to know you're smart. But here's the kicker, nobody gives a flying fuck.
Fincher
Nichols
McQueen
Saulnier
Anderson (Wes, PT)
Post-80s Scorcese
Villeneuve
>>70581315
You do realize you're a super edgelord, right?
>>70581467
>But it's not like they're making capeshit or Transformers.
There Will Be Blood, Boogie Nights and Magnolia are exactly like capeshit or Transformers.
>>70581467
*shouldn't feel the need to prove it
>>70581084
anon literally everyone plays video games. you might as well rage at people who drink water or breathe air
>>70581542
You really missed the point of the goddamn post
>>70581542
in what way
>>70581578
His post was predicated on falsehoods.
>>70581574
There's no calming his rage. He's mad because he's a social retard, so instead of looking at why he can't make friends, he focuses his hate on things he sees people with friends ("dumb people") doing.
>>70581620
>pro-audience engagement
>pro-audience enjoyment
>spectacle driven pro-aesthetic cinematography
>>70579354
No, I understand the phrasing.
I mean what is it about Kubrick's films that make you realise he's not good, once you've watched more films?
>>70581726
so movies are only worthwhile if the movie is unpleasant and uninteresting?
Stop feeding the troll please. I legitimately believe PTA sucks but this guy who you're responding to is trolling you.
>>70581781
They are only morally justifiable.
>>70581726
Your life must be brutally sad and lonely. I'll read your reply where you tell me that's not true, but everyone will know you're lying, so don't waste your time on that when you could be ordering your helium tank and just ending your misery.
>>70581827
>Your life must be brutally sad and lonely.
And there is literally nothing wrong with the art disciple's burden. Carry it with pride.
Post Collateral Mann
>>70581807
Is Magnolia the only PTA movie you've seen?
>>70581817
morally justifiable? what do you mean?
>>70581874
Lol, good trolling. I've enjoyed our bantz. Wanna stream Punch Drunk Love tonight?
>>70581233
what about rich + uneducated? does this chart assume they don't exist?
>>70581903
Our society is infantilized and morally diseased. To serve this society up with a film they can connect to or enjoy is to pat them on the head and enable their degeneracy, further cementing the downfall of society. I do not see how you can be okay with that.
Cinema should punish audiences. Bore them, anger them, break them.
>>70581899
I haven't seen Magnolia. I've seen TWBB, The Master, Punch Drunk Love, and Junun.
>>70581978
Yeah, I don't know any 1%ers, but I know some marginally wealthy people and they're dumb as shit.
>>70581884
Post Collateral Mann is something you can only grow into. It's everything else that is to be outgrown.
>>70582016
If you legitimately think PTA sucks, why in the fuck did you watch Junun?
>>70582084
Well, firstly because it's a music documentary so there's little stylistic similarity between it and his other work. Secondly, I had some hope that the music would be interesting (nope).
>>70582130
You know you're pretentious when you like so few things you actively follow and watch the films of directors you think suck.
>>70582016
>Junun.
>Paul hotpocket anderson + fedoriohead + mudskins
Kill me now
>>70582008
>bobo or traditionalist drivel
yes our society that is competently feeding billions, landing probes on Mars, creating AIs, that has less deaths due to war and crime per capita than other in history is infantilized and morally diseased...
>>70582187
>I WANT TO LIVE IN MY SAFE LITTLE VIDEO GAME VETTED HUGBOX
If you don't watch things that suck then you don't live in reality.
>>70582202
I bet you listen to metal, am I right?
>>70582263
>If you don't listen to Nolan: The Band then you listen to metal
lmao
>>70582241
Lol what is your deal with video games? I'm posting on /tv/. I don't even fucking play them.
>>70582319
If you've been consuming 95% of mainstream cinema or television in the last decade then no, you actually have been playing video games, whether you were aware of it or not.
>>70582296
Most people don't like Radiohead. I just assume shitposters on 4chan listen to metal. I feel like that's a decent assumption.
>>70575948
fuck you nigger
>>70582377
Man, my mind is blown. I never thought of it that way. Thanks for enlightening me!
>>70582388
>Most people don't like Radiohead
Yes, apparently most people aren't autistic 15 year olds.
>disliking the Nolan of music makes you a shitbuster
lmao. Radiohead is just as autism video game adolscent as metal.
>>70582187
Dude I like tons of directors. I watched a few PTA films to try to understand the hype. What's wrong with that?
>>70582202
PTA and Radiohead suck but so does racism. Stop being an edgelord
>>70582388
Nice dubs
>>70582461
Actually, here on 4chan, most people are autistic 15 year olds
>>70582495
>so does racism.
If you aren't a full blown white supremecist at this point then you must been developmentally disabled.
>>70582550
No it's just that I'm not 16 and I don't spend all my free time on /pol/ and breitbart
>>70577883
The only work he's done that was great was when he didnt write it.
>Drive
>Bronson
The poor guy cant write for shit bit he sure can direct. Even the script for The Neon Demon was like something a 19 year old college kid would write
>>70582542
I am 25 years old and I pride myself on being one of the most neurotypical people who has ever lived. Don't assume your fellow video game crossposters speak for everybody on this board.
>>70582495
Nothing, but you posted something I disagree with on 4chan, so I have to resort to personal attacks.
>>70582574
If you have your head buried in the sand so deep that you are unaware of the cultural war you are involved in then you have to be medically retarded. It's not even relatively subtle propaganda tactics anymore. It's bullets fired on your position whizzing past your ears.
>>70582639
How gullible do you have to be to buy into Fox News scaremongering?
>>70582620
>Degenerate reddit pleb video game show image
Way to prove my point.
>>70582592
I want to genuinely thank you for your trolling efforts. It's rare these days for me to laugh out loud from this board, but you got me.
>>70582574
Well said sir.
>>70582666
Satan?
>>70582657
I've not watched a single second of your american television. I'm in europe and the genocide is on my doorstep. It will reach you too. You could stop it if you weren't such a cucked pussy.
>>70575948
Ridley Scott.
He should be ashamed for making the Martian
>>70582713
>European
>Calls us cucks
Have you seen European men? Fucking scarves and skinny jeans.
>>70582755
preach it.
The Martian is an ok movie, but a terrible Ridley Scott film. Since when did he start doing comedies?
>>70582639
Do you really believe that there's a conspiracy against whites? Even though they are the majority running everything?
You're a stupid asshole.
>>70582755
Dubs confirm
>>70582778
Cucks are the majority here just like cucks are the majority in the US. The white race is europe is in its death throws. and it will be you up next on the chopping block.
>>70582713
Yeah, reactionary terrorism in response to western intervention signals a race war and white genocide right? This 'genocide' is going really slow, considering it's been happening since the 40s.
>>70582657
Fox News? I'm not an American. I read Reuters, The Wall Street Journal, and The Telegraph. I'm smarter and more educated than you if you want to play that game, but I'm not in the mood. Basically (assuming you're white) you're a weak-willed child assisting his own cultural, racial, and ethnic suicide if you aren't a white nationalist in 2016
>>70582792
Exactly! Wtf happened to serious horror/thriller Ripley?
>>70582713
You're delusional, seriously.
Pretty much standard contrarian drivel in this thread from various cultural 'rebels'.
How to be a patrician in five easy steps
1. The kinds of things that most people proclaim to care about in movies are character and story. The first step is realizing that these things don't matter, because film is a visual medium. Of course, it's also an aural medium, but that's not a line that patricians repeat ad nauseum, so you don't have to worry about it. Why are character and story irrelevant even if film is conveyed through images, you might ask? Who cares? Just keep repeating to yourself that film is a visual medium until you get it.
2. If a pleb who disagrees with you dismisses your superior taste with the line that "it's all just opinions", what can you do? If you can't criticize mainstream films for being bad art and be taken seriously, you can at least criticize mainstream films for having bad politics. Be sure to label every big budget Hollywood film you despise with names like fascist, imperialist, misogynist, patriarchal, capitalist, consumerist, racist, regressive, xenophobic, homophobic, or some combination of the above. After all, people are fine with liking movies other people think are bad, but nobody wants to be taken for being a racist.
>>70582809
>Do you really believe that there's a conspiracy against whites?
Unless your the most sheltered normie on the planet then I believe that you'd need to have some kind of mental illness to deny it.
>Even though they are the majority running everything?
Whites run nothing. Everything is steered by the hand of the Jew.
>>70582889
3. The more obscure your taste in movies is, the deeper your knowledge about cinema is. What insights do less popular movies have than popular ones about the process of filmmaking, you ask? I don't know either. What I do know is that it's easy to dismiss the taste and opinions of other people when you can say that director x is merely a watered down version of director y's aesthetic, vision, thematic concerns, politics, or mis-en-scene, and when the person you're arguing with can't rebuke your assertion because they haven't seen anything by the director you brought up, you've won the argument.
4. Use the word "mis-en-scene". Use the word "auteur". In fact, use any French words whenever you can, even if there is an English equivalent you could use instead. If you spoke in English, your ideas might actually be lucid to people who aren't ingrained with film theory, and then plebs would actually think they could respond to you as if they had anything worth saying.
5. Be sure to namedrop psychologists, leftist academics, and continental philosophers whenever you can. No person, even a person who likes arthouse films, is going to look particularly sophisticated if films are all they know about. Examples of good names to drop include: Karl Marx, Noam Chomsky, Slavoj Zizek, Jaques Derrida, Sigmund Freud, and Carl Jung. These are just starting points, feel free to expand on them as you like.
And that's it! You're now a fully certified patrician! Do you feel intellectual yet?
>>70582809
Not that poster, but no, there's no conspiracy against whites. But no doubt there's a major movement demonizing white men happening now that the internet allows very vocal minorities to bitch and moan 24/7. And it's making cucks of us. No conspiracy, it's all out in the open.
>>70582828
But how can I stop it? I can't stop other men from taking shit off women and other beta males.
>>70582857
it ended after Gladiator.
I'll say this,Prometheus with all it's faults really grabbed me with it's visuals and style which is what I praise Scott for. But after that, he hasn't done anything redeeming. Especially Exodus. Such a joke.
>everyobdy taking the "i'm literally screaming right now and slamming my arms down on my desk" guy seriously
its funny cause you have no way of telling if he actually believes what he posts or not. His opinions are absurd but subtle.
>>70581084
>Autism embodied.
>>70582852
Or I'm not a 16 year old kid hopped up on /pol/ memes.
>>70582927
>there's no conspiracy against whites. But no doubt there's a major movement demonizing white men
>There's no conspiracy against whites except for this easily identifiable conspiracy against whites
You think weakening the white male is the end goal? Don't make me laugh. They're using our woman to breed the entire race away by villifing us and deifying blacks.
>>70583042
It's not a conspiracy that white women are crazy whores.
>>70582978
Funny seeing /v/edditor children try to discuss cinema.
Gladiator is absolute pedestrian hollywood trash. FACT.
The Counselor is one of the best of the 10s and of Scott's entire career. FACT.
>>70583080
They act the way they do because of the hand of the Jew. They're brainwashed from infancy to be that way. Just like you were brainwashed to be a cuck.
>>70583107
nah
>>70582898
Give me reasons that there are people trying to start a genocide against whites. And before you start saying that the immigrants are trying to destroy your country, I gotta say that I live in Brazil and we have a lot of immigrants as well, and yet not one terrorist attack nor menace. We've been receiveing them for more than 4 decades and there wasn't any problem with us. The hatians are now immigranting to our country, and some dumb right-winged jerks think they want to "steal" our jobs and blame them for any problem.
The jews aren't white? But anyway, you may find a difference and you also should be one of those psychotic right-winged blog readers
>>70583168
>Agree with your point, just not your opinion on the logistics of it
>Get called a cuck
Fuk u
>>70583168
Oops, sorry, that first response wasn't for you. It was for some tinfoil hat wearing fat fuck
>>70583225
>The jews aren't white?
And the sky is blue. You are too uneducated to even engage with.
>I'm from brazil
Why are you even on this board? Fucking hell.
>>70577785
I always enjoy his films but he seems like a complete asshole
>>70582927
It's because people can't get to do shit right. They're trying to give some balck and woman empowerment but they can't so they start shitting on white males. It's not a conspiracy, it's just people who doesn't have the minimal intellect to try to do things right. I'm a mulatto, and I hate people saying hispanic or something like that, because they think they're helping me, but in fact it's just a different denomination. The masses are usually retarded, you shouldn't give the proper attention to them.
>>70583403
>I always enjoy his films
Come back when you stop going to VIDEO GAMES and finally enter adulthood. This is a board for mature people, and no that isn't le epin ironic bait that your fedora god quentin would put into his movies. I believe it, that is the standard I hold this board to, no more wading in filth. Tighten up, do not enable the children.
>>70583461
If you're not white then there is literally no reason for you to be on this board. The diversity meme isn't in effect here. Racial purity is a vital element of the authentic /tv/ sensibilities. You have taken so much from us already, so leave and let the white race have this one thing.
>>70578944
>Warhol
Opinion invalidated
Terry Gilliam, although I wasn't like a big fan, really.
I like Monty Python stuff and 12 Monkeys okay, but his aesthetic is often too steampunk
I never really bought into PT Anderson, Fincher, or Tarantino
Wes Anderson is okay but not my favorite thing.
I'm not even going to get into the greats though and claim how they're 'pleb' to me now. Some aren't my thing though...
Godard means nothing to me. Most French New Wave is dull to me with the exception of Rohmer and sometimes Malle.
Don't care for Italian Realist stuff either. I generally hate Social 'Realism'
>>70583683
Literally dozens of worse directors already named in this thread but the little millenial crap eater feels threatened and complains about warhol.
JESUS CHRIST, this board is DEAD
this should be renamed capeshit & netflix
>>70583731
>the little millenial crap eater feels threatened and complains about warhol.
Seems like you feel threatened, m8.
Also, you seem desperate for attention, posting your tryhard "favourite" directors.
Warhol was a hack. The only good thing he ever did was fund Paul Morrissey's films.
>>70583683
Warhol owns, get some taste.
Vinyl >>>>>>>>> a clockwork orange
>>70583810
>"favourite
>U
Post invalidated
Life invalidated
Keep choking on that muslim dick.
>>70583848
Feeling more threatened?
You're very thin-skinned mate. Sorry that your attempt to impress people failed. We saw through the posturing.
>>70583330
White is skin pigmentation while Judaism is an religion.
Haha, you must be /pol/
>>70583882
Once you reveal yourself to be from a cuck nation you are done here, kiddy. Sorry if you're not familiar with the rules. You let poo-skin in. You pay the price.
>>70584007
>White is skin pigmentation while Judaism is an religion.
Yes, Jews are just as white as you or I.
>>70582008
Autism the post
>>70584021
You're really angry mate. Resorting to childish insults now.
In future, don't try so hard to impress people. It comes off as desperate and you look like a fedora'd m'lady gentleman.
>>70578944
if this is real, school me on orpheus (cocteu), I enjoyed it a lot but wasn't really seeing the what others who deem it a masterpiece see
>>70575948
Ridley Scott
>>70584227
not him but who calls Orpheus a masterpiece? it's a good film but the Blood of a Poet is clearly his best. it's an even more inventive and unconstrained by narrative version of Orpheus
>>70577783
>The Master and Inherent Vice were pure kino that most people didn't get
you're right I didn't understand them at all
still I liked the Master, the performances were good despite me being too dumb to understand it
>>70582008
found the nazi-boo
>>70584269
I've been meaning to finish the trilogy. orpheus is probably his most popular/well received film other than beauty and the beast
>>70578082
not the same guy, but it's overacted and the story is pretty silly.
>>70584498
>VIDEOGAME ESAWWIUDGDGDGDGDGDGDGDGDGDGDGDGDGDGDGDGDGDGDGBK SDA
>>70584535
>"everything i don't personally like is degenerate"
>"it would have been better if the germans won"
>"i like to use the word objectively a lot"
>"i can only like things if they tick all of my /pol jpeg talking points"
>>70584663
>reddit image
It genuinely would have been better for the entire world if the germans won and you'd need to be a self hating cuckold to think otherwise.
>>70575948
Every movie he's made has been great.
You are a pleb if you don't enjoy Inherent Vice and understand what makes it so great.
>>70584733
so have you had your ancestry checked? are you 100% northern haplo group? what percent of undesirable in your DNA do you think the germans would have tolerated.
scale the germans policies for a context in modern technology and rethink that statement you dumb nigger.
>>70584802
>Every movie he's made has been great.
Maybe by your capeshit standards but if you want something more than spectacle driven distraction from cinema then every single one of his movies falls flat. Most of his protagonists would fit right in with the MCU, which says a lot about the quality of his writing. Wouldn't surprise me if his next shitfest has Joaquin Phoenix shutting down a giant beam of blue light that's shooting into a sky portal. It's video game pornography, pure and simple.
>>70584346
Inherent Vice is not really confusing, in a second watch you'll probably get it.
The Master is just a guy (Quell) who's trying to have a live post-war but his rage attacks and alcoolism make it difficult for him. He meets The Master, a leader of a cult who tries to help this Quell with his theories, but he always fails (one example is when a guy tries to argue him with about his methods and he gets nervous, which means his theory has failures). The Master can't help Quell, but he knows he's the only one who tries it, and always tries to defend him (just see the parts the starts beating up people who disagree with the Master).In the next act of the movie, Quell thinks the only one who can help him is the girl who he was in love, and the Master still wants to help him, because if he did, his theory would be less flawed or flawless.
At the end of the movie, Quell goes back to the Master to see if he can be "cured", the Master's wife can't see the failures in his theory, so she blames Quell's cynicism. The Master tries to help Quell one last time, saying that he would be his enemy in a future life (that's because Quell was the evidence that the Master's ideas where flawed), Quell denies it, but the Master says that he should seek another Master. So Quell tries to find a woman to be his Master (the last scenes show prove this). That was my interpretation for The Master, it may be not the right one, but if you watch the movie again with this thoughts, it can make some sense to you.
>>70584834
>so have you had your ancestry checked?
Absolutely, and the Germans would have loved me. Not everyone has to be ashamed by their genetics. Mudboy.
>>70584891
>spectacle driven
I'm not sure you understand what this means.
In fact, I'm not sure you understand anything at all.
I'm going to assume you're spouting memes about capeshit in order to try and provoke an angry response, because otherwise I don't think we're talking about the same movies.
>>70584909
Well yeah I followed the plot, more or less, but I figured there was a lot of metaphor, symbolism and allegory going on... and I had no idea what any of it was.
>>70585010
Almost every single frame of PTA's flicks is a spectacle shot. It's like porn and the dicks are jizzing at you in every second of the movie. Inherent Vice is the only one with minimal meme cinematography.
>>70584942
no you didn't, and you know you didn't. hitler himself was a mutt. your ideology is shit tier. germany had a right to defend itself and its culture, not absorb the globe and designate who is worthy of life. german genetics have contributed to progress considerably but not exclusively.
little addies war cost the world 60 million europeon minds and paved the way for the pusification of europe. you want to know why muslims are fucking germany up? because of national socialism.
it is 100% likely that a person such as yourself found to be having discussions on a chinese image board forum would be euthanized.
things aren't the best right now, but your a delusional autist if you think national socialism would have beniftted anyone else.
>/tv/ is trying to discuss directors
why do you keep doing this? this board is uncapable of discussing anything without "what you enjoy is shit and what I enjoy is great because of my superior taste" line of thinking
>>70577869
Mouth of Madness was pretty good.
>>70585307
>germany had a right to defend itself and its culture, not absorb the globe and designate who is worthy of life
Except these two things were one and the same. It was literally the only way to get rid of the jewish cancer.
>it is 100% likely that a person such as yourself found to be having discussions on a chinese image board forum would be euthanized.
If that would have benefitted my white nation then I wouldn't; have a problem with that.
>>70585307
but muslims are not fucking germany up
>>70579126
Most all of those are great movies that just happen to have terrible fanbases.
Nothing about them is inherently fedora-core except for Cabin in the Woods.
>>70585162
I didn't think you were serious, and I'm still struggling to believe that you are.
Spectacle shots are dynamic, high-action shots - lots of camera movement, lots of movement of objects within the frame. Multiple grounds and lots of visual excitement, usually wide angles to fit as much entertainment as possible into each frame.
Classic proponents of this style would be Michael Bay, James Cameron and Tony Scott.
PTA's cinematography, on the other hand, is almost as muted as the Coen brothers'. Yes, he is very careful and skilled with his composition, but his framing isn't intended to (and doesn't usually) cause such immersion and awe that you lose track of plot details.
>like porn and the dicks are jizzing at you in every second of the movie
Your taste in porn is as bad as your taste in regular film, if you honestly find the moneyshot to be the most spectacular part of a porno.
>minimal meme cinematography
This is not a criticism. Calling something "meme [x]" is meaningless. Dig through what remains of your internet-rotted grey matter and find some real words to express your opinions.
Ron Howard, for sure.
>>70575948
Christopher Nolan
>>70585382
>It was literally the only way to get rid of the jewish cancer.
no it wasn't dipshit. mass deportation would have sufficed just fine without inciting international intervention. categorizing all jews as a hive mind enitity with the singular goal of germanies destruction was when germany shit the bed. 100,000 jews even enlisted for germany in WW1.
>If that would have benefitted my white nation then I wouldn't; have a problem with that.
there is no white christian god who have patted you on the back for your sacrifice to greater german ideals. you'd be fucking dead dumbass. holy shit naziboos are retarded.
germany lost because they bit off more then they could chew, and they weren't content with what they had.
>>70585410
>"muslims are not fucking germany up"
>>70585575
>Your taste in porn is as bad as your taste in regular film, if you honestly find the moneyshot to be the most spectacular part of a porno.
It's meant to be. I do not engage in any pornography, be it what is understood to be pornographic by the mainstream or the wider definition of "feel good" media as I employ it.
Any shot meant to convey pro-aesthetic "beauty" or pleasing composition in any form is spectacle pornography.
>>70585694
>mass deportation would have sufficed just fine without inciting international intervention
Then the Jew parasite would have just taken hold in other places and come back to bite Germany in the ass decades down the line.
>. categorizing all jews as a hive mind enitity with the singular goal of germanies destruction was when germany shit the bed
Except that still holds true to this day, except not just in regards to germany, but the entire white race.
>>70583769
Sad but true
>>70575948
>"growing" out of certain films past the age of 13
Far worse than unironically liking them.
>>70584891
>Daniel Plainview and Freddie Quell, or even Tom Cruise from Magnolia would fit right in the MCU
Do you even read what you're posting?
>>70586035
Every one of them is an over the top memetic caricature. They'd fit right in with snarky metal man, hulk and the others.
>>70586034
>the level of cinema sophistication I have at age 13 will remain static for the rest of my life
Sad DESU
>>70585745
>I do not engage in any pornography
Bullshit, you're on the internet. Why lie to an anonymous stranger?
>Any shot meant to convey pro-aesthetic "beauty" or pleasing composition in any form is spectacle pornography
Well, allow me to be the first to inform you that you apply a different definition to both "spectacle" and "pornography" than literally every other user of the English language.
If pleasing aesthetics and composition automatically disqualify a film's cinematography as "spectacle pornography", how is it possible for you to enjoy film, since it's such a visual medium? Do you only ever enjoy found-footage horror and movies by Paul Greengrass?
This is all beside the point that you insisted PTA's movies are "spectacle driven", where in actual fact they all more-or-less perfectly fit the definition of "character driven" - the plot is advanced by the relationships between characters who are, in turn, noticeably changed and affected by the events of the plot.
They are nothing like the MCU, nor other spectacle-driven movies such as the Bond movies or the Transformers movies, all of which are driven by large-scale action setpieces (the classic form of "spectacle") whose connection to the main arc of the plot is rarely explored in any depth. If the reasons behind a spectacular plot device are questioned at any length (usually after the movie is over, since a good spectacle-driven movie won't leave you any time to think), plot holes the size of dilated elephant vagina typically start to emerge.
Dismissing a movie like The Master or There Will Be Blood with terms that apply (according to common usage, anyway) to movies like Bad Boys II or Avatar is pretty silly.
>>70585799
>Then the Jew parasite would have just taken hold in other places and come back to bite Germany in the ass decades down the line.
not with the nuremberg laws they had in place at the time. the entire atmosphere of the country was anti jewish. to then take a step further, keep jews from mass exiling as they were doing, place them in ghettos, and not expect international consequences was delusional. many german politicians had wanted to let the jews flee as they were doing.
>Except that still holds true to this day, except not just in regards to germany, but the entire white race.
so which specific allele causes this in jews. is there a sub category of epi-genetic function that causes jewish hand writhing? are you going to post some pseudo scientfic haplo charts? behaviour dictated by genetic expression is a bell curve. yes there was plenty of jewry going on in pre war germany, but that was not the general trend of a majority of jews. you have a childs understanding of why people behave the way they do if you honestly think every jewish individual was accountable for the actions of a handful of jewish bankers orchestrating german financial ruin.
if germany had stopped at wanting to deport the jews because they had valid reason to believe they were uprooting their economy the world wouldn't have batted an eye. it had other shit going on at the time. this is at a tiem when jim crow was still around so its not like the general sentiment was as it is today regarding these kinds of social policies.
>>70586081
>over the top memetic caricature
How so? What's so over the top about a ruthless gilded age businessman or a sexually frustrated, violent, and alcoholic veteran?
Cruise is over the top but that's the point of his character. He's literally playing an over the top, shady motivational speaker that takes advantage of fedoras. His whole character arc is about stripping that meme away to see the human underneath.
All of these characters are completely within the realm of reality and not caricatured. If you've never met any people like them then you probably should meet more people.
>>70584909
I think you're mostly right, but a little misguided at the end. At the end of the movie, Freddie goes to see The Master out of a sense of friendship. By that point in the movie, I don't think Freddie is considering the movement able to help him at all. Throughout the movie, Dodd is trying to civilize Freddie to show that humans are not animals, and that everyone must serve a master. Over his time with Freddie, he becomes emotionally attached to him because he is jealous of Freddie's freedom to act out and behave without consideration. You can see through the drinking of those alcoholic concoctions and some of Dodd's interactions with others through the movie that he feels trapped within his movement. At the end, he asks Freddie to stay, but Freddie knows it's pointless. Dodd can see that Freddie is the antithesis of his theories and I think you are correct that that is the origin of his "enemy" line. He then tells Freddie to enjoy his freedom, and to let him know if he finds a way to live without serving a master, because in Dodd's eyes that would be the greater truth. I'm 99% sure this is what the film was going for.
>>70585162
You're thinking of post-Thin Red Line Malick dude
>>70586193
>Bullshit, you're on the internet
The pursuit of pleasure in all forms degenerate and reprehensible. And that extends to hearing sounds that please the ears, seeing sights that please the eyes, viewing the exploits of characters that you're supposed to feel a connection to and become invested in. It's all pornography. I don't care how anybody else uses these terms, I am devout in my beliefs.
A character you're supposed to connect with is the characterization equivilent of an exploding CGI helicopter action scene. You're a bad person and the only way to atone for that is to view images that cause discomfort. To watch characters you are unable to understand feel anything for. To hear sounds that make you want to stick pins in yours ears. Providing an audience with ANYTHING to latch on to is capeshit pornography.
Somewhat off topic but related question:
Should I read Inherent Vice first or watch it first? I have both the book and movie but I'm not sure which one to start with. I tend toward cinema, and generally like seeing films first then reading the books if I like them. If I read books first I tend to be really disappointed by the movies. I've never read Pynchon but want to check him out, and I like PTA.
>>70586081
If you think they're over the top characters, we could facilitate that discussion, but you show yourself to be a retard by comparing them the MCU characters. Start thinking about your opinions rather than having emotional responses to things you don't like.
>>70586355
I fucking knew it. I knew I was being rused all along.
Oh, well, I'm glad I got to have at least one half of a serious discussion about film, that's something increasingly rare in the intellectual desert that /tv/ has become.
>>70586441
We can have good discussions here, but you and I have a weakness. We go for the bait, and even if it's just an idiot posting his true feelings, it might as well be bait. And it suckers us in every time. We need to post good discussion starters early in the thread and just respond to each other rather than the bait, my friend.
>>70586229
>What's so over the top about a ruthless gilded age businessman or a sexually frustrated, violent, and alcoholic veteran?
The meme performances. You could probably put any marvel capeshit character into any of these terms
>What's so meme about a fractured millionaire obsessed with the death of his parents. A Green angry man.
I don't know the others
They all have their gimmick personalities whilst not being too complicated. Concept characters that you can get across in a quick sentence. That kind of interplay and juxtaposition seems to be what the /v/edditors enjoy. They get to see all their buddies sitting at the same table.
>>70586355
do you get out much?
>>70586441
>I fucking knew it. I knew I was being rused all along.
Nope.
I am only ever sincere. Irony is a cultural cancer.
>>70586549
Freddie Quell is an alcoholic, bipolar veteran struggling to adapt to postwar life with PTSD. That's not a boilerplate, shallow character. Even if you think the acting is over the top. 2/10 for making me respond.
>>70586597
Ur a faget
>>70586627
>Freddie Quell is an alcoholic, bipolar veteran struggling to adapt to postwar life with PTSD.
So he is 50s iron man.
>>70586355
no joking this is actually quality shitposting. its always interesting when people maintain the internal logic of an invented persona this far.
>>70586523
Under normal circumstances I try and get in early with some meaty posts, but sadly I was late to this thread.
Don't worry, I do my bit to keep the content on this board up to standard, but the tide of viral marketing and shitposters is pretty strong when it hits.
>>70586597
If that's the case, I hope that this picture doesn't make you uncomfortable.
>>70586744
I had that attitude earlier in the thread, but his persistence has made me succumb to the shitposting and now I'm irritated
>>70577785
kill bill is kino
>>70586689
You see absolutely no genuine struggle with alcohol in those fucking movies or PTSD. The Master is a film based around that and the MCU uses alcoholism and PTSD on a scene to scene basis for when Iron Man is feeling sad.
>>70586788
i assumed at the outset he was roleplaying. however putting this much effort into this concept is bordering on critical mass autism. unless he's honing and fleshing out this character for use in future posting with you.
>>70586597
>The pursuit of pleasure in all forms degenerate and reprehensible. And that extends to hearing sounds that please the ears, seeing sights that please the eyes, viewing the exploits of characters that you're supposed to feel a connection to and become invested in. It's all pornography. I don't care how anybody else uses these terms, I am devout in my beliefs.
You do realize that the prevalence of cultural cuckoldry and cultural irony in contemporary society are the result of such ridiculous and pessimistic stances.
>>70586759
We can't save the board, we fucked up when 4chan did their raids and exposed us to the world at large. But we can at least find each other and try to salvage what we can for our own entertainment.
>>70586875
Lol I somehow doubt this is the last argument about PTA I'm gonna have with this motherfucker
>>70586759
The picture doesn't make me feel anything. Much like PTA's shot composition or "difficult" yet "sympathetic" characters. I can see exactly what he's fishing for but it is completely transparent and empty. The pornography doesn't work on me. I see only human futility.
>>70586861
Maybe you should write a fan fiction. That's what you "fans" do, right? There is a lot of crossover between entry level IMDB devotees and the capeshit crowd. You could get plenty of reddit gold for the time Iron Man and Freddie Quell sat on a beach staring at blue flowing water before closing a portal in the sky.
>>70586876
Go on
>>70587177
>The picture doesn't make me feel anything.
I don't believe you, anon. But this is fun, so I will indulge you.
>>70587309
Sexuality is just a trap to trick us into continuing the misery and depravity. If normies weren't such slaves to their impulses this could all come to an end. I was not born under special circumstances. If I can break my desire for pleasure then anybody can. Reject your capeshit. Reject your video games, Reject sex and we can all step away with dignity.
>>70587177
What's your obsession with sky portals?
>>70587528
The saddest part is that I know you're right, but I also know that you have failed to elude the base, material grasp of the Demiurge as much as I have, since here we both are, conversing over a medium whose only purpose is to mainline pleasure directly to your visual cortex.
>>70587712
Whenever I've seen capeshit there is a sky portal
>>70587177
Buzzwords and a closed loop argument. Good work bruh
