Is Lovecraft's racism the reason there has been no major cinematic adaptation of any of his works?
>>70566008
No it's because horror has to be Christian based (zombies, demons, ghosts, etc.) to recieve a fair rating by the MPAA. The more you delve into the cold uncaring Elder Gods and whatnot the harsher your shit will get rated.
Being trite /v/edditor trash has more to do with it
>>70566008
No, a lot of his stuff is either tough to film because it relies on the atmosphere his prose creates, or tough to carry off because trying to fit stuff that's supposed to be innately indescribable into a visual medium often ends up looking silly.
>>70566008
>Christian based
>zombies
wut >inb4 jeezus was zombi xD
>demons
exist in every religious circle
>ghosts
^
>>70566112
Bullshit.
>>70566008
90℅ of hijs works describe his shit as indescribable.
You ever tried filming something you can't describe?
>>70566117
Fuck off you subhuman darkened creature of blasphemous metissage. Your dirty beady-eyed hispanic face is not welcome on this proud ancestral Anglo-Saxon board. Filthy mud-blooded animals like you belong only in the primal jungle hunting other degenerate creatures of your kind and carving up their flesh with a rusty machete that your granddad Joaozinho Carlos de Ronaldopereira left to you. All in all you are nothing but a primitive atavism of evolution, a repulsive undeveloped primate polluting this planet which rightfully belongs to the Aryan Race. Drive your old machete through your own chest if you want to end your suffering, because you won't become any more human as days go by, you fucking cruel misrepresentation of humanity, goddamn godless indian subhuman mongoloid.
lovecraft is okay, but his fans are fucking awful.
lovecraftian is one of the most annoying buzzwords out there.
he's not as unique as you make him out to be.
>>70566200
>>70566215
It's not the sole reason perhaps but it is A reason. Also zombies are very Christian and I'm not talking about Jesus, you literal retard.
https://www.openbible.info/topics/zombies
>I fucking hate these god damned sea niggers, and their ruler Boyegathulu too, damn it.
What did he mean by this?
>>70566008
>What is, The Jungle Book?
The only other thing Kipling is known for is for White Man's Burden.
>>70566008
Why would any Hollywood Jew waste the amount of time you'd need to craft a good Lovecraftian horror when they can just have jump scares softcore porn and call it horror? That or steal the chink shit.
>>70566252
You write like shit, just like that homo.
>>70566314
>what is Kim
And "If..." was literally voted the greatest British poem ever a few years ago you fucking hyperpleb.
>>70566008
It might be the reason we'll never get a biopic, but I reckon their would be some shekel wranglers out there who would love to make a couple of hundred million off the back of a filthy goy racist and laugh while doing so.
>>70566008
Its fun to go on /lit/ and post about how racist he was in their almost daily "should I read Lovecraft?/about to read Lovecraft what am in for?/is Lovecraft good?" threads.
>>70566477
*if it was possible
>>70566008
It's because Lovecraft's stories don't really translate well to a visual medium. The best that can be achieved are films with Lovecraftian elements, like Carpenter's In the Mouth of Madness.
>>70566117
Wait, how would this be an explanation? There's new capeshit every month and now vidyashit is getting made more and more.
>>70566112
>zombies
>christian
You fucking witless buffoon.
>>70566421
Take it to /lit/ you fuckin nerd.
>>70566281
Protip: anyone that has ever used the word "lovecraftian" has never read a single fucking thing he's written.
I'm not saying he's innaccessible because he's not, but I wouldn't be surprised if lovecraft had the highest ratio of people that think they know his works vs people who've actually read them.
No. There's no shortage of racism in Hollywood. Main reason is they're pretty boring and unfilmable.
>>70566008
>>70566663
>There's no shortage of racism in Hollywood.
True, but lovecraft was the 'evil' type of racism. Rather than the fun, #killallwhitepeople type of racism
>too poor and unknown to secure rights to your own works
>autists and indie cunts bastardize it for an eternity
that's the real unimaginable horror
>>70566603
See
>>70566301
Then kill yourself
>>70566628
>kipling is only known for the only two things of his i know
>i am a pleb and resent people rubbing my face in my own plebby vomit
It's the only way you'll learn.
>>70566603
>Lazarus
>Jesus
His only good quality was his idea of horror, no one had such a good conception of how to produce that feeling of cosmic dread. However his prose, characterisation and plot arcs generally were asinine at best and painfully obscurant and loquacious at worst.
>>70566715
what do you mean with this?
>tfw read omnibus 1, 2 and 3 years ago
>one of the stories really stuck with me
>can't remember which one it was, or even which book
I think it was about some guy trying to break into a cave, a tomb or something around those lines, and when he eventually did get inside, the usual madness shit happened. Any idea?
Its probably not even that good, but for some reason it had more of an effect on me than most of the other stories, even the ones I can recall better.
>>70566656
>Protip: anyone that has ever used the word "lovecraftian" has never read a single fucking thing he's written.
I'm living proof you're wrong, fite me irl. I'm a black belt in Yog-Sothothery and 'Lovecraftian' is a perfectly apt adjective a la 'Kafkaesque'.
>At the mountains of madness adaptation and gets glowing reviews and explodes at the box office
>Inner city hipsters adore it
>Suddenly they do a complete 180 when they find out about Lovecraft's views
It would be glorious to see
>>70566730
Zombies are haitian you fucking cretin. They're not christian just because the west uses them in films. Or perhaps you'd care to explain to me why there are no zombies in western folklore perhaps?
>>70566772
Was it a pyramid? Or at least, set in Egypt?
He is medium unfriendly and the vagueness he advantages off will get stripped away
>>70566008
> Tell don't show bullshit
>>70566751
Chambers was pretty good at that too I thought
>>70566779
It's a perfectly apt adjective, it's just mostly used by brainless retards that think fucking tentacles=SO LOVECRAFTIAN OMG XDDDD
>>70566823
You should show us why you don't like him rather than telling us.
Oh wait, that's retarded.
>>70566827
I find Chambers a pain. Dunsany and Bierce are the only out and out horror writers whose stuff I enjoy throughout. For me, Frankenstein's Monster is the best piece of horror fiction ever created.
>>70566813
No, I'm pretty sure it took place in some park or a forest.
>>70566281
Unique...
No one has had such a influence on horror as this man. And despite multiple indirect adaptations of his stye, none have genuinely captured the style of the original.
He is, was and fucking always will be sublimey unique. Lovecraftian is a powerful word since any imbecile can recognize it the instant they see it.
Fuck you you mediocre Hunger Games reading filth.
>>70566848
>caring about that
You need to lie down.
>>70566667
As i recall yellow king is not lovecraft.
>>70566008
OP you're probably right because lots of video games adabted his style and went well
>>70566885
The Statement of Randolph Carter? Or at least was one of the characters called that, because he's in a couple.
>>70566733
Why are you so triggered over an innocuous exaggeration? Do you honestly think I've even read The Jungle Book? Shut the fuck up and just be happy that the majority of people are like me so that you can hang onto that superiority complex you're just itching to show off.
>>70566928
>Opinions? No I don't have those, I'm a nihilist bro, everyone thinks I'm super cool because I pretend to not care about things.
>>70566981
Why do you go around airily making inaccurate claims about shit? And why do you chimp out so hard when people correct you?
>>70566877
>Frankenstein's Monster
It's just frankenstein, "frankenstein's monster" implies that the book is about the monster, the book is about Frankenstein.
>>70566996
>getting that angry over stupid people misusing a word
Angsty teen too smart for the other kids detected
>>70566667
>so close
Fuckin jew magic at work here.
>>70567064
>>70567072
I thought you didn't care? Why are you getting worked up?
>>70567111
>umadbro
Lel
>>70567095
I was talking about the title of the book, he called it frankenstein's monster, it's not called that.
Pay attention to these two films:
Dagon
Shatterbrain
They are both Lovecraft adaptations that have some amazing elements (Uxia from Dagon, shatterbrain atmosphere and the monsters), but are ruined by being cheesy as fuck.
>>70567131
You're the one who said you didn't care mate. I honestly don't know why you keep replying if you care so little
Because Elder Gods are a huge financial risk and Hollywood hates taking risks.
It's not complicated.
>>70566848
>>70566656
i kind of agree with you. the word lovecraftian basically just means anything that look spooky now. there are no themes of madness or mystery in anything
>>70567178
I care as much as you do
>>70567204
I don't know how it got this way to be honest with you.
Everyone who hasn't read lovecraft thinks he's that cthulu guy and tentacle monster=lovecraft
Call of Cthulu isn't even his best work, it's middle of the road as lovecraft goes, why is that the most famous?
>>70567055,
You're the one getting autistic. It's not like I'm writing his biography.
>>70566112
zombies came from voodoo, you ignorant twat.
>>70566503
I loved that he named his cat Nigger Man.
It's just so perfect.
>tfw noone nowdays understands how english worked 100 years ago and it's actually 'lovecroftian'
>>70566772
The Shunned House
>>70567288
No, you're just passing on moronic /pol/-tier conspiratarding while not knowing what the fuck you're talking about.
>>70566951
I think I found out what it was. Possibly "The Tomb" from Omnibus 2.
>>70567152
I haven't even heard of Shatterbrain, damn. I'll have to check it out.
I thought "Dreams in the Witch House" from Masters of Horror was pretty neat, when I watched it years ago.
>>70567363
The Shunned House is good but it was a cellar, not a cave/tomb.
>>70567395
>I haven't even heard of Shatterbrain, damn. I'll have to check it out.
It has an alternate title iirc, but you can find it by googling Shatterbrain. Based on Dexter Ward, I believe.
I actually found out about it because some good soul kept spamming a webm of a really horrific piece of practical gore effects from it on /tv/.
>>70566751
>asinine
>obscurant
>loquacious
>>70567331
>tfw the word wasn't coined until well after he died, which was in 1934
>tfw you can eat a bag of dicks and learn how to spell 'no-one' and 'nowadays' before you get sniffy about shit like this
>>70567383
Where do you think we are? I'd bet dollars to donuts that any Jungle Book thread you looked up in the archive would have White Man's Burden mentioned before any other Kipling work if there is any.
>>70567581
In >>70566314 you offered Kipling as a parallel, implicitly claiming that Kipling's other works aren't as well known because of Kipling's attitudes towards race, and so also that this is why Lovecraft's works have rarely been adapted.
All I've done is point out that that's wrong. Whinging about what I might expect the average 4chan thread to contain has nothing to do with anything except your inability to handle being wrong on the internet.
>>70567524
but he's from the totallyradical future so it's okay
>>70567718
I offered Kipling as a rebuttal, genius. Hence the meme arrow. Kipling is also a controversial figure for his rousing endorsements of imperialism and yet one of the most critically acclaimed films of this year is The Jungle Book.
>>70566667
>>70566887
>>70567086
>>70567897
Well fuck. Is my face red.
>>70566008
No, because trying to adap it to film (or any visual medium Tbh) is stupid.
The whole point of cosmic horror is that it's monsters are something so horrible that you can't even make sense of it, it defies logic. You can't represent that visually.
The 'lovecraftian means le epic slimy tentacle monsters xD' meme needs to die
>>70567970
It happens to the best of us.
>>70566789
this
plz hollywood make At The Mountains of Madness first,then the unofficial sequel,A Colder War,where Soviet Union starts making shoggoths their drones,first british atomic bomb awakens the Polyps in Pnakotus,Big C gets awakened by nuclear tests in french polynesia,meanwhile american and british oil survey teams find a portal to Yuggoth and the Mi-Go rek arabia
>>70566751
>It's a WASP who has a boner for antiquities and genealogy stumbles upon a plot hatched by a cosmic horror who is in cahoots with no class uneducated serfs episode.
>Lovecraft's racism
>Wanting to preserve his culture
What an ebil man.
>>70568186
Would it trigger you if I told youhe married a Jew?
Cinematic adaptation or GoT treatment?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the reason there aren't any adaptions is because obtaining the rights to make the movie is hard. I have nothing to back this up, just a guess.
Also actually adapting some of his stories will be hard, although The Thing was pretty good even though it was very very loosely based.
>>70566772
http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/src.aspx
?
>>70566789
>Inner city
hey it's my boy Hemingway
>>70568230
Some have interpreted his racial attitude as being more cultural than brutally biological: Lovecraft showed sympathy to others who pacifically assimilated into Western culture, to the extent of even marrying a Jewish woman whom he viewed as "well assimilated."
What was the name of the cat? Nigger man or something?
>>70566927
>Lovecraftian is a powerful word
Lovecraft film universe. Hell make it a trilogy, I don't care. Just give the people an honest taste.
Also Colour Out of Space is his best work.
>>70568334
What do I need to do to get such body ?
>>70567502
>big words upset me
And you call yourself a Lovecraft fan.
>>70568334
kek
>>70568297
His work is in the public domain since he wrote almost a century ago. The Thing isn't based on his work. It's a remake of a movie based on some other writer's short story.
>>70568387
Yeah I really liked that story. I think a way they could adapt it is by shining different color light on the actors shocked faces but never showing the source
There's a couple reasons.
One is that most of Lovecrafts ideas are creepy in writing, but once you visualize them they tend to be a bit silly. Fish people, or cucumber-bodied aliens aren't really scary, it's the way Lovecraft describes things that makes them creepy, and a lot of times his own descriptions end up more silly than scary.
Another reason is that he relies on atmosphere over description. It's hard to put an unnameable horror on camera, because then it gains description.
I think the big reason, and apparently it's a reason Del Toro met resistance trying to make At The Mountains Of Madness, is that Lovecraft has no women, romance, and rarely even basic human relationships in his stories. Hollywood wants to force a love story into everything.
>>70568405
make a YouTube channel with shitty fitness advice, create fitness drama, lie about being a mercenary and threaten combat veterans
>>70568498
Oh alright. I thought that the alien in the Antarctic kind of resembled that one story of his in the cave in Antarctica
>>70568357
Yeah, he was a cultural chauvinist whose concept of culture was bound up with race.
He also started out editing an amateur magazine called The Conservative and wound up supporting the New Deal, but most people don't have time for subtleties.
>>70568387
>Also Colour Out of Space is his best work.
Definitely top three. Always thought it would be good to do an adaptation where everything's black and white except for the colour.
>>70566772
One of his early works? It could be The Tomb, where a guy spends time in a tomb and converses with the dead.
>>70568387
there is a movie from that novel already
...but its german
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t-MxVyublk
i like the The Whisperer in Darkness black-and-white movie,its a decent adaptation
if i traveled back in time and would showed him this. what do you think his reaction would be?
>>70568551
That's At The Mountains of Madness. Bit similar but there's no body-mimicry or what have you, or at least none I recall.
>>70568515
Honestly I think that would be a cheap way to do it because just by not showing the horrible objects it becomes very easy to turn his stories into films.
I think what they should do instead is make it an actual color in an otherwise black and white film so it would actually be out of another dimension.
Either that or make it a hole in reality through which you can see some twisted shit like eyes staring at you but subtle enough that it could also be your pattern recognition kicking in. Something akin to the google deep dream pictures or what they are called.
>>70568334
small benis :-DDD
>>70568523
>Fish people, or cucumber-bodied aliens aren't really scary
Fuck off.
They only visual lovecraftian thing I have ever seen work is Bloodborne
prometheus is basically a lovecraft movie tbqhwymf
>>70568652
>there is a movie from that novel already
There was also a really shitty adaptation starring Wil Wheaton. Worth a watch just for how shitty it is.
>>70568690
Wow that's a good idea. But I do think they should definitely show the villagers going insane of course
>>70568186
>wanting to preserve his culture.
Actually he rejected his culture and pretended he was an upperclass British twat.
>>70568664
He would be fine since they're all white.
>>70566008
Lovecraft's racism wasn't really prominent in his short stories, so no
>>70566314
>What is Gunga Din
>>70566281
holy shit man, you been on the facebook group? don't, its all cancer and I cringe when I think I was on it...
>>70568515
That's the beauty of the story. The only thing described is the light or "colour". All we know is that e.t. chills in a well and drains the life out of people when he feels like it.
Not to mention all the build up with the farm. It's perfect for film.
>>70568638
That would be great for a film, but we all know how audiences feel about b&w
>>70568163
Name more than two stories like that.
He was one lazy fuck
>and the creature was too ugly to describe
>it was so horrific I can't describe it
>I felt sick watching it, it was indescribable
What a hack
>>70566198
>>70566198
This.
Lovecraft relies heavily in the idea of creatures that defy comprehension so hardly people get mental Black Screens of Death just by seeing the minor ones through a keyhole.
The only way to put that accturately into a movie is by literally showing nothing, except people getting mindfucked. And that's boring.
>>70569001
So what should happen are really really well designed models quality wise on par with the xenomorph but obviously very different. I think its doable but we need another Giger for it to happen.
>>70566008
maybe
>>70569001
I think it could work if you just never show the full figure of the thing in question.
You just get glimpses of it.
>>70568959
I bet you enjoy GRRM prose and his vivid description of loose shit escaping someones ass.
>>70566008
Arguably his stories were shit, but his mythos was solid. That's the reason why you don't see anything but the best of the best. Everything else is set in the lovecraftian universe, but not the same stories.
Best thing out right now is True Detectives Season One. This is exactly how fucking lovecraft can work in the modern age. Tell a story that spans mulitple years.
>>70569173
they tried that with Call of Cthulu and it turned out complete garbage. Seeing that idiotic and hideus model they used for Cthulu really ruined the entire movie for me, which up to that point was pretty great albeit not very frightening.
>>70568956
>The Shadow Over Innsmouth
>The Call of Cthulhu
>The Festival
>The Horror at Red Hook
etc
>>70566008
Isn't his stuff public domain? If so then that's why OP, they can't maximize their shekel count with that stuff.
>>70566301
>This retard didn't bother to read the passages and just saw zombies and Bible in the same URL and called good.
>>70569281
But public domain stuff gets adapted all the time. Sherlock Holmes, for example.
>>70568761
>yellow
At least /mu/ got their absolute magnum opus Lovecraft adaptation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaMbKZPBruU
>>70566112
Moronic post
>>70566198
Real answer
Because people are plebs that barely knows his filmable work, if I was crazy I would fund a "late arthur jermyn" or a "whisperer in the darkness" fuck you can even do a "shadow over time", but plebs want cthulhu and nothing more.
>>70568334
Is that anthony fantano?
>>70566008
hard to adapt, maybe?
>>70566198
I want this meme to end. I've read roughly 75% of his entire body of work and nothing in it would have been especially difficult to film in this day and age. Weird ones like The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath would be more difficult than others but by no means impossible. Just look at any shitty modern fantasy movie and you've got what you need to adapt it. Lovecraft's short stories are his best in my opinion and they could probably be adapted into a tv series like Tales from the Crypt or something.
>>70569924
>I would fund a "late arthur jermyn"
Some Scandi animator is working on this IIRC.
>>70569194
>>70566008
best thing available is Bloodborne.
>>70570071
So when he's banging on about non-Euclidean geometry and so forth, just CGI it?
>>70570152
We already live in a non-Euclidean universe friend.
>>70570417
Doesn't make it any easier to film.
>>70568405
>>70568539
Just act as though you are the person typing out the navy seals pasta unironically.
>>70570114
Really!!!
I have to see that shit!
>>70570152
>>70569555
>implying somebody not familiar with the concept of anime would interprit those characters as anything other than caucasian.
>>70570632
http://einarbaldvin.tumblr.com/
So so many utter idiots ITT claiming that lovecraft minsters and entities are untranslatable into film because they're indescribable
Know how I know you've never ever read one lovecraft novel???
He literally says hurrdurr it's indescribable, then goes on to fucking describe it, you tools.
It was a terrible, indescribable thing vaster than any subway train—a shapeless congeries of protoplasmic bubbles, faintly self-luminous, and with myriads of temporary eyes forming and un-forming as pustules of greenish light all over the tunnel-filling front that bore down upon us, crushing the frantic penguins and slithering over the glistening floor that it and its kind had swept so evilly free of all litter.
>>70571207
He does this so much. It's indescribable guise, i swear. This is what it looks like, how it moves, what it smells like, where it lives and what it's motives and plans are, but seriously guise, it's indescribable!
>>70571207
>Know how I know you've never ever read one lovecraft novel?
Because he never wrote any?
>>70571287
Sorry, semantics. Lovecraft essays and novellas
>NON-WHITE PEOPLE
>GOOOOOOOD
>WHITE PEOPLE
>BAAAAAAAAAD
We get it already, fuck
>>70571207
Just for the record, I didn't say they were untranslatable, I said they end up looking silly.
>>70571207
>>70571268
You can't force an audience to be afraid of a guy in a rubber suit or a CGI creation.
Modern audiences also ain't afraid of shit.
another slow day on /lit/
Lovecraft edition
>>70568428
>Poor faggot. Does he really think big emotions come from big words? He thinks I don’t know the ten-dollar words. I know them all right. But there are older and simpler and better words, and those are the ones I use.
>>70571527
Hello GradeAUnderA. Nice to see you check websites other than reddit.
What's wrong with being racist?
>>70566008
No, hardly anyone knows about his racism and other racists have their stuff interpreted often.
There's no real strong reason aside from that in terms of execution, his works really aren't really that good outside the ideas. That said, I think Lovecraft will be an upcoming fad. I think it's a niche that filmmakers will realize is a good opportunity to explore.
>>70568515
>>70568638
theres a few others here talking about it but just an idea i had for the colour out of space.
the colour of course, is bright and luminescent, it draws your attention and is hard to forget, let alone think about.
as for the rest of the movie, have it dull in comparison of course, but over the course of the movie slowly sap the color of everything BUT the colour, have it shine bright as always as everything else near it withers away.. almost to the point where at the end the colour is the only thing with color left.
>>70566198
>the atmosphere his prose creates
His prose was shit.
He was incredibly creative, and for that he does deserve praise, but his writing was always mediocre.
>>70571961
you might cut yourself on your own edge.
>>70566667
Despite not being directly based on his words, True Detective is probably the closest to Lovecraft that's been filmed.
>>70573093
>probably the closest to Lovecraft that's been filmed.
>haven't watched a single kino actually based on Lovecraft
*tips cthulhu subreddit*
>>70566008
Because Lovecraft is all about the atmosphere and the protagonist slowly discovering more and more about what's happening and losing his shit because of it, not about the impact of finally facing the monster itself.
Most horror movies suck at creating a proper atmosphere and whoever is put in charge would probably focus more on showing the spooky monster than in the build-up to its appearance.
No.
1. there have been many
2. the reason it rarely works is because this is typically something for literature rather than cinema: the unseen, the unthinkable, the ununderstandable, the unknown, etc, and cinema is a poor medium for this sort of thing
>>70568530
10/10
>>70573093
To be fair, its more an inversion of what lovecraft did. As lovecraft was built around the idea the cults were just crazy idiots, only to reveal they were legit. Whereas everyone was expecting thei childress cult to be legit, and it turned out they were just crazy hicks.
>2001
>reading Lovecraft with Quake's soundtrack, by NIN, in my ears
>good times
I always use that soundtrack when I read horror. No lyrics, not much in term of melodies, makes for a perfect horror soundtrack. Moody and atmospheric.
Recommended.
>>70568664
all white is all right
change the male to a nignog, and then he'd rage
>>70574200
Thats not really fair. I can't think of anything that nine inch nails wouldn't greatly enhance.
>>70570152
>non-Euclidean
I still don't understand this shit
>>70574357
>Thats not really fair. I can't think of anything that nine inch nails wouldn't greatly enhance.
A love-making session.
Otherwise, it's not that it enhances it, but it's a perfect companion.
>>70574425
>I still don't understand this shit
That's the point. Only literature can handle this sort of thing.
>>70566198
I agree with the second point, but
>it relies on the atmosphere his prose creates
is a bad excuse. You can easily create a fitting atmosphere with audio and visual tools that the film medium allows. You don't need big scary monsters to make a decent horror story, nor do you need big scary CGI monsters to make a decent horror film.
>>70574574
Are there any horror films with good atmosphere and little focus in the monster itself?
I don't mean shit where we don't see the monster like The Blair Witch's Project.
>>70574425
>>70574497
Just go all "2001" on it. There you go. Wacky, out of this world surreality.
>>70574574
The point is cinema cannot show without showing. Literature can do that, but an image can't. Hiding stuff only goes so far but doesn't affect the viewer as much as literature can do doing the same thing.
Lovecraft's entities often become simplified and reduced in film. Little more than big tentacled creatures, whereas in the stories, they're some mystery between aliens, gods, and demons, living according to parameters utterly beyond us, but nigh impossible to represent with images and sounds.
You can write that R'lyeh has non-Euclidian geometry, and your mind can imagine the uniminaginable in some abstract manner, but you cannot film that.
Best movies with Lovecraftian themes:
>The Thing (1982)
>In the Mouth of Madness
And that's about it. Maybe Alien too (1979), to some degree.
>>70574674
Aliens, director's cut, has over an hour of tension building originally. Then it's war, but until then, it's great atmosphere, something few people ever mention, but is completely true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvpBDopIMxw
This is what it would be like.
>>70574745
>Just go all "2001" on it. There you go. Wacky, out of this world surreality.
But that's not Lovecraftian. Clarke's supra aliens are cool and all, but completely different.
In movie format, it can easily become blurred BS and some fake mystery.
Horror often fares better in literature than it does on film. Consider King's best novels and the adaptations.
Ender's Game is a great novel but a very average and underwhelming film. Some things are better for literature than cinema.
>tfw howard and lovecraft were pen-pals and howard wrote cthulhu mythos stories
>tfw kull is techincally in the mythos universe
>tfw there are several resemblances in conan universe to the cthulhu mythos
>>70566198
To be honest, the low-budget stuff has tended to do pretty well in terms of atmosphere and effects. Have you seen Die Farbe (based on the colour out of space)? It's really worth tracking down.
>>70574922
Conan has come across tentacled monsters in the depths of places several times.
If you try filming Lovecraft, you end up with Hellboy, basically.
I'm sure we can do better, but it will require subtlety and intelligence, and you won't get that from a big budget.
>>70574425
Euclidean geometry is geometry in a plane, like a sheet of paper.
If instead of a perfectly plane sheet of paper, you start making geometry over a spherical stuff, then you have non-Euclidean geometry.
Our world is obviously non-Euclidean geometry, the universe itself also seems to be non-Euclidean since it being a plane of space-time is impossible.
That's literally it, just take the basic axioms of geometry, change one and you have an entire different geometry.
>>70566751
>painfully obscurant and loquacious at worst
Dude, just go back to sucking dicks or whatever you were doing before this thread came along.
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>>70575264
Reality cannot be non-Euclidian, though. This is some 5th dimension bullshit.
>>70575048
t. Triggered Lovecraft babbies
>>70575361
>Reality cannot be non-Euclidian
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>>70569325
Did you even read them? Literally every aspect of Western zombies is in there. Walking dead with rotting flesh that infect others with their affliction. Fuck off idiot
>>70575425
If it was, it'd still look like Euclidian geometry to you, faggot.
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>>70566740
Resurrection to a healthy or glorified body is different than a reanimated, desicated corpse.
>>70575586
Holy fucking shit for the umpteenth time I'm not talking about Jesus, you dips. There is straight up TWD style zombies in the Bible that eat people and are walking rotting corpses who can make others like them.
Read through some of these passages. Obviously the word zombie isn't in there but the ideas are definitely clear.
https://www.openbible.info/topics/zombies
>>70575560
The only reason our environment looks Euclidean to us is because the scope of our senses is insignificant.
In >>70575264 picture, if the "parallel" lines in the hyperbolic and elliptic geometries are small enough, it'll look practically the same as the Euclidean one.
That is the only reason, on a macroscopic scale, you can't explain the universe with Euclidian axioms.
>>70575649
Those are pretty much all just about resurrection or a return to life. A religious person will see them as being about a Jesus-like resurrection, and a zombie-obsessed neckbeard atheist will assume any coming back to life is zombies.
>>70575768
>A religious person will see them as being about a Jesus-like resurrection
>"And this shall be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the peoples that wage war against Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths. "
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>>70575818
It's about disease - big deal. Why are you so obsessed with the idea that there are zombies in the bible? Are you a /pol/tard who is offended that something like zombies came from the mythology of a black country?
>>70575649
A lot of verses are really stretching it and out of context to be thought of as "zombies".
>>70566008
Didnt hurt tolkien or robert e. howard, Can't imagine it would hurt him either. Also there are many many adaptations of his work, and also many inspired by him. The color out of space from 2010 is quite good and probably the best adaptation of any of his works we've gotten so far. Tbh, i'm not sure if hollywood could even really deliver a decent adaptation. Would like to see someone like cronenberg or richard stanely take on something though, either one of those weirdos could make something happen i think.
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>>70575874
Also note I said predominantly - that was pretty much the only exception, and as I said, it's about a plague.
>>70575874
I'm not even him, but saying that they're all verses about a "Jesus-like resurrection" is fucking dumb.
>>70566008
Not a direct reference but Cabin in the Woods' ending was very clearly Lovecraft influenced.
A bureaucracy making sacrifices to keep the Elder Gods satiated is pretty Lovecraftian to begin with, probably better than most of the plots he came up with even.
>>70575947
Fine - which ones say zombies to you?
>>70576041
>Not a direct reference
It doesn't get any more direct.
>>70572912
Not an argument
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>>70576215
True, I meant it's not a direct reference to a specific story but it's a very direct reference to Lovecraft in general, so I'll shut up.
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>>70575264
I thought non-Euclidian is trippy bullshit only possible in 2D, like pic related
>>70575411
Not him but I don't even like Lovecraft and that dude's 100% right, you're a faggot.
>>70576487
Looking closely at this picture sent shivers down my spines. Thought it was noraml at first.
>>70569173
Jacob's Ladder-esque perhaps.
The first time I saw Jacob's Ladder I was really impressed by that technique of never seeing things all the way, especially in the subway, and to a lesser extent the party scene.
That movie is directly why Silent Hill exists.
>>70576487
That's just some Esther-like spatial paradox.
Perhaps they might be possible if you deliberately change axioms from your geometry, but other than that they're not related.
>>70575425
>physicians
ONE JOB
>>70576601
hahahah, cool man, in a creepy, freaky way
>>70576660
off by one, damn
Also, on the matter of geometry
http://hppodcraft.com/forums/index.php?topic=100.0
>>70574468
>A love-making session.
Closer, though.
Nowadays? Yes, his racism is definitiely a reason why his work isn't widely adapted. Previously it was because the technology to really do justice to the incomprehensible shit in his stories wasn't there. No that said technology exists, everyone is a over-sensitive ninny who are more afraid of hurt feelings than horribly evil multidimensional space gods.
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>>70569559
>not Sleep's Holy Mountain
>>70566008
I'm thinking if there was money to be made from raping his ideas they wouldn't have any problem with his HORRIBLE RAYSISIMS that no one gives a shit about in real life anyway
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>>70577468
>someone took the time to write all this shit
Autism is real.
Would you guys fuck a white monkey goddess creature if you were in the same position?Why would anyone holy fuck
>>70577762
How monkey are we talking here?
>>70577900
So monkey that you'd light yourself on fire if you learned that a monkey was your great great great grandmother.
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>>70577900
>>70577988an ape, not a monkey
>>70577342
Both top albums lads but Witchcult Today is the only real choice.
http://youtu.be/0xA_Qfj8ErY
>>70577988
...Well, I won't rule out the possibility.
>>70577900
Did you just save that from /tg/?
>>70578162
Oh yeah sorry.Would that even change anyone's opinion
>>70578219
Nope.
>>70566751
alotta fancy words for a simple opinion.
>>70566008
probably.
>>70578172
I like electric wizard, but they're just referencing lovecraft in their tunes. Tracks like "From Beyond" and "inside the sun" just eek cosmic eldrich-ness, and I've always felt like Holy Mountain captured much of what Lovecraft wrote about in his works(despite referencing the Jodorowsky film). Probably sound like a faggot fanboy here, but every time i here "From Beyond" I get transported to a different place. A similar place I feel like im in when I read Lovecraft. And I don't even do weed any more.
>>70566008
>racist
>old-fashioned
>white
>atheist
>antisemite
the list goes on
>>70566603
>he never watched Fulci movies
>>70578902
>antisemite
He married a lot of Jews for an antisemite, imo.
>>70578960
that's right, he married a Jew. But he wrote lot of antisemite stuff in his personal letters (it was less obvious in his novellas), and he supported Hitler too.
It seems to have changed his minds at the end of his life on lot of his most extreme opinions tho.
>>70566281
Nonsense. I have and love the Necronomicon edition and I use the term Lovecraftian to describe benedict cumberbatch's face.
