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>Anakin is supposed to have a higher midichlorian count than
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>Anakin is supposed to have a higher midichlorian count than anyone, including Yoda (Who's said to be the most powerful Jedi in the universe)
>Yoda was able to hold his own against Sheev (Who's arguably the most powerful Sith lord in the universe, at least at the time), although in the end they both seemed to be evenly matched
>Anakin (As Vader) was able to pick up Sheev and throw him to his death
>Obi-Wan was able to defeat Anakin and was shown to be more than a match for him
>Obi-Wan only died because he let Anakin/Vader kill him so he could become a force ghost

So who's the most powerful out of the 4? And would Anakin be able to defeat Yoda in a 1-on-1 duel?
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>>70437977
It's not Dragon Ball Z. Being more powerful that someone doesn't mean you automatically win.
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Power levels are bullshit.

>ANAKIN HAD MORE MIDICHLORIANS THAT MEANS HE'S STRONGER SO HOW COULD HE LOSE TO SOMEONE WITH LESS

Kill yourself.
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based obi wan
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>>70438035
Whoa, whoa, WHOA there, pal! What's got you so upset all of a sudden?
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>>70438103
Obi got the upside, Anakin got the downside. There's highground in every Schwartz.
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Mace Windu desu senpai
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>>70438035
>>70438161

To add,

the mentality of "X beat Y and Y beat Z that means that X will always beat Z" is something that anime, Dragon Ball Z in specific, has severely damaged popular culture with. The need to somehow measure the power of a fictional character and compare them to others is childish and pathetic. Assigning some kind of number to a character from Naruto and saying that could be a character from some other anime because their "number" is lower is some of the most insipid and mind-numbingly retarded ways to make use of your time. Crossing genres is even worse, especially in the Superman vs. Goku debate, with losers trying to establish some kind of "upper strength limit" based on their feats.
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>>70438242
Are you autistic or something?
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>>70437977
Anakin would've grown more powerful than all of them combined if he wasn't almost killed by Obi in Lethal Lava Land.

At the time of ROTS, Sheev was the strongest overall in terms of fighting and force ability. Yoda was on par, of course.

Anakin in his prime wouldn't be able to beat Yoda. He lacked mental discipline and often tried to brute force his way through things, so while he could overpower anyone that fought him head-on, he struggled with anything that put up an ample defense or took advantage of his arrogance.

Obi is actually pretty weak force-wise, at least compared to the rest. His only real talent as a Jedi is in playing defense which is more attributed to his mental fortitude, which he did for the entire fight vs Anakin and only really managed that since Anakin was relying solely on trying to bash his way through Obi for the entire affair.
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Pre-suit Anaken was the strongest force user and was stronger than yoda and sheeve and Mace and Obi wan, etc. He knew he could eventually overthrow the emperor. However, being stronger, doesnt necessarily mean you always win every lightsaber duel
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>>70437977
we'll never know because they're all dead
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>>70437977
Obi Wan was a better swordsman and Anakin was only beginning to access his potential.

Picking up Darth Sheevus and throwing him in a hole in the floor has nothing to do with power levels.
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Why do any Force user battles ever come to lightsaber fights?

Why aren't they all just the two people standing there looking constipated at eachother in concentration trying to invisibly overwhelm one another with the Force until one of them eventually does and wins?
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>>70438707
this
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>>70437977
Anakin's midiclhlorian count wasn't a mark of power (though it did indicate that), it was a mark of fate, destiny. Anakin was the most connected individual to the force anyone had ever seen. And because of that, the force worked through him. Both sides of it. So when the time came for anakin to be powerful, he was. And when the time came for him to lose, he did.
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>>70438027
>It's not Dragon Ball Z
Yes it fucking is ever since Disney rewrote the canon.
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>>70438947
I missed the part they added goku

>>70438803
Because when jedi battles were first conceived, the creators lacked the technology to depict waves of force energy battling each other in a way that wasn't goofy.
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>>70439094
>waves of force energy

It's invisible, that's the whole point. It should just be the two opponents staring at eachother with angry faces.
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>>70438803
Lightsabers are probably just more practical in a combat setting due to the fact that they can deflect and cut shit to stop the other guy's attack without needing to be outright stronger in the force.
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>>70439148
that wouldn't sell toys.
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>>70439169
Yeah but why doesn't the guy who's stronger with the force just not bother to engage with the lightsaber shit and instead just immobilize the other person and disable them?

Or crush their lightsaber?
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>>70439148
>>70439229
Because that would make it a lame ass movie.
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Midichlorians are NOT the Force.
A high Midichlorian count does not indicate aptitude in the Force.
And it's not a A > B > C thing.
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He didn't have the high ground
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