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>>70412920
Well?
>>70416814
>I wish you good fortune in the wars to come
>>70416814
Noh...
>>70416855
Could anyone in asoiaf take Letho or Bonhart on?
>>70416855
>not posting based Vilgefortz
>>70416814
Why didn't Neddard try a little further diplomacy with him? He seemed rather anxious to get into a fight he most likely would lose.
>>70416814
From left to right:
>Ethan Glover
>Howland Reed
>Martyn Cassel
>Eddard Stark
>William Dustin
>Theo Wull
amirite?
Jonsa
>>70416949
I don't understand why Dayne would keep Ned from seeing his sister.
Assuming it was Lyanna up there.
>>70416988
>Shooting Baratheons
BASED
A
S
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D
>>70416922
> By far most powerful, OP character in the Witcher universe
> Gets tricked and subsequently killed by a cheap ticket
>>70416876
always got me xD
>>70417016
I-IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE OF HIS FAULTY EYE
PLEASE NO BULLY
give him a break anon it was like a 1v3 and he easily would have won if he was healthy, hell he easily would have won if Geralt didn't get that new necklace
>>70416964
no one cares fgt
>>70416967
Any good jon x san smut out there?
>>70416949
As always when dealing with Rettard Stark
>muh honor
>>70416814
(farts)
>>70416855
Daily reminder that The Witcher games have better writing than GoT
>>70417097
I don't look up smut or anything to be honest, just look up pictures of Jon and Sansa on google.
I just think their interactions were cute
>>70417124
I fucking hate you /got/
I noticed it too during the scene.
And then I got genuinely upset about it.
I wish I could just be a normie showfag, and not get butthurt about trivial shit in a fantasy show.
You assholes ruined it for me.
>>70416814
So the confirmed major deaths are Margaery, Olenna and the High Septon dying in the Sept of Baelor after Cersei burns the building, Tommen by committing suicide afterwards, and Ramsay by being mauled by dogs. Anyone missing?
>>70417124
i dont get it
>>70417085
It's kind of funny that Vigo ended up saving everyone's ass.
>>70416973
>>70416973
Rhaegar was practicing blood magic. It was a ritual, and he left orders to not be disturbed for any reason. Ned distrubed him, and the product was Dany Targaryan. A barely living lyanna made ned promise to see her to a good home.
Lyanna of course, was a sacrifice for the ritual, but also dany's stark mother.
>>70417220
1. Dayne the Dualwielder is doing a stupid flourish, but that could be forgiven.
2. Howland? isn't even trying to hit.
>>70417116
Quick tempers, slow minds.
>>70417247
yeah and she ended up preventing my lord and savior from achieving his master plans
>no crossover were Euron and Vilgefortz plot to become gods
JDIMSA
>>70417292
>>70417247
>>70417085
>>70417016
>>70416922
>>70416855
Is /vg/ leaking?
>>70417274
>2. Howland? isn't even trying to hit.
Howland is on the ground still bleeding, that dude's not Howland
>>70417148
>>70417177
I've read the books but I've started listing to all the audio books recently. The only one that's yet to be translated is Lady of the Lake. The English narrator is good and I love his Geralt but I wish I understood polish, because the polish audio books are essential audio plays. Some brave soul subbed a few scenes.
https://youtu.be/K-6ySiSzm7c
https://youtu.be/pOKkMFJPf6I
>>70417348
Hence the questionmark.
The non-Ned guy anyway.
>>70417401
The other dude's not Ned
>>70417368
I would kill to something like that for the ASOIAF books. Instead I have some old man making screeching noises and making the same character have a completely different voice 3 books later.
guise look at Roose
>>70417468
JUST
>>70416964
DAYNE?
>You are in set of Dorne arc shooting
>The shooting is about to start
What do?
>>70417012
so the only reason the Tarlys yield to a faggy house like Tyrell is that you can't shoot roses?
>>70417468
REEEEEE Delete this
>>70416814
Only a shitty libshit numale would like this shitty generic show
>>70417503
>Sand Snakes! Get nekid and fugg!
>Areo! Take your Axe and kill Ellia!
>More swirling pls
>Doran! Look more scheming!
Whoo,saved that one. Now to Sansa and Ramsay...
>>70417503
In the past now but I would at least look sort of interested when Doran died right in front of me.
>>70417508
Or the fact that they're located within Tyrell lands.
>>70417592
>implying this couldn't easily be Tarly lands.
Jaime x Bran, anyone?
>>70416876
>now it ends
what did he mean by this?
>>70417438
Alright, the left guy.
From our perspective, not Dayne's.
You fucking pedant.
>Promise me, Nuncle.
>>70417637
They could be, but they're not and Randyll doesn't seem like the person to go against whoever is the leading Lord of the Reach.
You know, I think the white walkers/others have something. They're a different race (Despite being made from men) yet, there's no infighting... there's no aggression between them. While the unchanged men just spend their days killing each other..
>>70416964
The Dustins aren't sand niggers buddy.
>tfw you're considerably shorter than your brother
He lacked the beard, but otherwise he's pretty much how I imagined him in the books.
>>70417864
Better looking though
Shame that Martin's vision has gone completely off the rails.
Hope he enjoys the mountains of money.
http://www.avclub.com/article/robert-kirkman-says-hes-disappointed-george-rr-mar-237701
Jun 3, 2016
Robert Kirkman says he’s disappointed in George R.R. Martin
Usually, when the words “disappointed,” “Robert,” and “Kirkman” appear in the same sentence, it’s pertaining to unfortunate decisions made by the creative team behind AMC’s The Walking Dead. This time, though, it’s because Kirkman — who serves as executive producer for the zombie apocalypse show and writes the less-frustrating comic book upon which it’s based — expressed his annoyance that a fellow writer allowed the narrative of his book series to be overtaken by its television adaptation.
During a recent interview with Rolling Stone, the 37-year-old revealed that he knows how, if not when, the comic series The Walking Dead will end. When asked if he would ever consider giving that information to showrunner Scott M. Gimple so that he and his team could start bending the TV series toward a similar end point, Kirkman shut that idea down fast:
“I would never do that,” Kirkman assured the interviewer. “That’s the one thing I’m disappointed in George R.R. Martin for doing. He should have just been like, ‘Fuck you. You make it up now, I’ll get to mine when I’m ready.’”
cont.
>>70417984
he can finally build harrenhall out of cake.
>>70417984
>vision
>write yourself into a corner over and over until all your characters are dead
>>70416964
Who the fuck in the North wears turbans?
So now that Blackfish and Jamie in the Riverlands is happening tomorrow, do you think we're getting Lady Stoneheart after all? They did mention the Brotherhood again.
>>70418002
Kirkman is referring to the way that HBO’s Game Of Thrones has moved beyond the narrative point of Martin’s A Song Of Ice And Fire books and is currently in the process of revealing mysteries (“Hodor!”) embedded into the story since its first book was published 20 years ago this August.
Though the Santa Fe-based fantasy novelist is a notoriously slow writer, he supposedly did not foresee the show—which moves at a rate of about one book a season—catching up with him, so he happily handed over all of his good secrets to show creators David Benioff and D. B. Weiss.
When the fifth book in his series, A Dance With Dragons, was published in July 2011 (six years after the previous one, A Feast For Crows), only the first season of the TV show had aired, and it seemed to most people unfamiliar with math that he would have plenty of time to finish up his planned seven-book series before the show wrapped up. Fast-forward to 2016, when HBO has lapped Martin and fans are still hungrily waiting for book six, The Winds Of Winter, to hit shelves.
But while Kirkman’s criticisms of Martin letting other people spoil his story are understandable, they’re also somewhat ironic, considering the great lengths to which his own show goes to ruin big moments.
FIN
>>70418024
they were in dorne, so probably one of them is wearing it for top quality bants with the lads as they travelled and forgot to take it off before the fight
>>70418027
Lsh fuckin confirmed
>>70418002
>>70418034
There are many, many people who can criticize Gurm. Comic book writers are not among them.
>>70416814
>ywn do blacksmith work for the First of Mayene by day, and get your brains fucked out by night
>>70418034
Aside from the horribly written article, I can't agree with Kirkman. I get his point, but when something is as big as GoT is right now, giving the reigns to some ransoms can fuck up your image a lot.
>>70418002
>>70418034
Yeah because he of all people has so much room to talk...
>>70418027
>>70418056
that one sperg /got/ loves to think of as a friend simulator claims GRRM told him she is cut 100%
>>70417124
[petite girl farts]
>>70418108
they're fucking his image up right now, it would have been better for all involved in George hadn't told them how it ended exactly and let them finish it as they would
would have been a more interesting product too.
>>70418081
Easy to churn out comics then a fuckin novel.
>>70417248
dany is rhaegars sister retard
>>70417152
No, that's retarded.
He'd have gone all that way to be of use to Jon by learning shit, only to not learn shit and hope to somehow get to the Wall before his father can notice the sword is missing and find Sam's fat ass in lands that Randyll has influence in.
AND, put Gilly back in danger at the Wall
AND, hope that Walkers and a giant wight army just so happen to decide to pop by Castle Black for Randyll to somehow see.
>>70418146
Who the fuck buys comic books? They cost 4 dollars for something that takes 5 minutes to read, and then you have to wait another month for your next installment.
>>70418034
>>70418002
sofia is still alive in the comics
beth doesnt exist
daryl doesnt exist
ingrid doesnt exist
>>70418081
Hardly a star in his field, anyway.
Reminder that HBO executives thinking "we want the Walking Dead audience" is what killed GOT.
>>70418144
Even GRRM doesn't know how the story is going to end, except in the vaguest way, as the guy is constantly rewriting earlier chapters based on stuff he writes in later chapters.
I'm not really worried about Dumb & Dumber "spoiling" the books, as they've fucked up the tv show SO badly it's a completely different story.
>>70418175
No. that is literally whats gonna happen
>>70418194
Depends on the comic, anon. A copy of 2000AD can take 20 to 30 minutes to read, comes out weekly & costs £2 in the UK.
>I wish you good fortune in the wars to come
>No, wit's end
What did he mean by this?
>>70417207
You think Cersei will give a history lesson first?
Like talking to the High Sparrow about how years ago the Faith had all this power and the Faith Militant waged against the Crown, Maegor Targaryen decided to try and put an end to it by burning the Sept of Remembrance with his dragon Balerion, but all the dragons are gone or far to the East, so she guesses wildfire will have to do.
>>70418246
what I'm concerned about are the broad strokes
for instance, no matter how much you might dislike it, it's confirmed stannis loses in the end somehow
I would much rather read GRRM's sequence of events than watch the shows version of the same
>>70418170
>dany is rhaegars sister retard
Brandon Stark + Ashara Dayne = Jon Snow
Rhaegar Targaryen + Lyanna Stark = Daenerys Targaryen
Eddard promises Lyannna
Returns Dawn to Ashara at Castle Starfall
Discovers Jon, trades him for Daenerys
Ashara fakes her suicide, becomes “Septa Lemore”
Smuggles Daenerys to Pentos to be with Ser Willem Darry and Viserys
Joins Jon Connington to raise and train Aegon the Reconqueror
>>70418212
That's not his point. He's saying that he wouldn't give the showrunners information that is going to be published in the comics beforehand.
>>70418135
[midget farts]
>>70418304
>"but pardon me, Queen Regeant, you do not have dragons"
>Cersei smirks
>"you will burn nonetheless"
>>70418320
literally what impact would Dany being a secret Targaryen all along bring into the story?
>>70417207
>Tommen by committing suicide
That's stupid
What did he mean by this?
>>70418320
Except Barristan the Bold confirmed that Rhaegar is Dany's brother
>>70418317
>for instance, no matter how much you might dislike it, it's confirmed stannis loses in the end somehow
Yes, but you had to have known Stannis was going to lose somehow.
My take is he'll defeat Roose and Ramsay but will die fighting the White Walkers after they breach the Wall.
>>70418371
Why? He's very obviously not emotionally stable.
>>70418320
How the fuck do you explain Viserys then?
That he didn't know that his baby sister is actually his niece?
>>70418386
>i wish you good 4chan, in the rolls to come
>>70418343
he is letting them take liberties with his story, at least GRRM is trying to provide them with his vision
>>70418118
i dont understand this
the walking dead TV show is nowhere near where the comics are
>>70418386
he meant that this is the past and that the wars aren't happening yet in case the viewer didn't realise
>>70418386
I'll bite.
They're both men of honor, and would have probably liked each other had they been on the same side, but alas the vows and all that other shit.
>>70418417
>How the fuck do you explain Viserys then?
He was a little kid and believed what Ser Willem Darry told him.
>entire series is about how feudalism is stupid especially things like bloodlines
>fans obsess over bloodlines anyway
lol
>>70418320
If Jon is Brandon's son then he would have been 4 months old when he came back to winterfell, you cant tell people that this baby is newborn when hes clearly 4 months old
>>70416814
We usually only talk about bad casting in GoT but why not talk about the perfect casts they managed so far.
I think The Hound, Balon Greyjoy, Osha and Walder Frey were really awesome. I'm very glad that 3 out of 4 have died before they can do something way out of character. And unlike most of the show this season Walder Frey didn't feel like he was out of character in his short scene. So there's still hope for a good death for him.
>>70418394
>Except Barristan the Bold confirmed that Rhaegar is Dany's brother
How would he know one way or the other?
One baby looks much like another, especially to a life-long bachelor who has no experience being around babies.
>>70418320
>Brandon Stark + Ashara Dayne
kill yourself, this meme theory with quite literally no evidence needs to leave
cast me faggetz
>>70418493
Despite what D&D would have you believe, with teleporting Brienne and Littlefinger, It would have taken Eddard months to get back to Winterfell.
>>70418624
Zemo
>>70418594
Because he is one of Rhaegar's bestfriend, he literally was Rhaegar's bodyguard.
>>70416814
when are they going to finally shit out "jon snow is a targaeryn and has a claim to the iron throne"
and then have him refuse it like a retard just to put sansa on the throne
>>70418366
>literally what impact would Dany being a secret Targaryen all along bring into the story?
Except she's not a secret Targaryen, she's the Prince(cess) That Was Promised.
>>70418630
yet Robb is much older
>>70418320
Not possible. Dany is younger than the possibility of being Lyanna. The only people that match up to that time frame are Jon and Meera.
>>70418493
Don't forget Jon is 8 or 9 months older than Dany.
That would've been a pretty big kid Ned brought along if B+A=J
>>70418676
Yes, and it doesnt have anything to do being Rhaegar's daughter.
She already has the Dragon blood
>>70418594
It's kind of easy to tell babies apart, especially when they have purple eyes and silver fuzz.
Barristan was like Dayne, basically BFFs with Captain Anime, they'd know.
>>70418704
>b-but R+L=J is too obvious
>>70418658
Episode 10
But he'd accept cause it's thrust on him. Just like becoming Lord Commander, just like leading Sansa'a revenge army, just like when the North will proclaim him Kig
>>70418678
>yet Robb is much older
Eddard knocked up Catelyn on their wedding night, he then spent X amount of time fighting Robert's Rebellion and then searching for Lyanna, then going to Starfall, then coming literally all the way across Westeros back to Winterfell.
>>70418757
Thats my point. Jon couldnt be Brandon's because Robb is much older than Jon
>>70418704
>Don't forget Jon is 8 or 9 months older than Dany.
There's no proof of that, we don't know the exact time frame that events during and after Robert's Rebellion happened. Eight or nine months one way or the other is perfectly believable.
>>70418676
If anyone had who ruled the seven kingdoms had half a brain they would melt the fucking Iron Throne and call it a day.
Benjen Stark confirmed Coldhands
>>70418624
littlefinger's down syndrome bastard
>>70418820
>There's no proof of that
Except you know, George's own words
>>70418695
Well it could be a few people. There are only so many important births for Lyanna in 283 AC.
Bella, Desmera Redwyne, Jeyne Westerling, Jon Snow, Lucos Chyttering, Margaery Tyrell, Meera Reed, Robb Stark, Robert Frey, Samwell Tarley, Del/Wildling.
That's the only important people born that year. Dany wasn't born until 284AC, and as most years as assumed, she's likely almost a year younger than the events at The Tower of Joy.
Which is more stupid?
>Brandon + Ashara = Jon
or
>Robert + Lyanna = Jon
or both
>>70418841
>and then suddenly benjen appears and now benjen's in it again
they didn't even leave it at a cliffhanger for one episode
I guess it couldn't really be anybody else though
>making webms of Ros sex scenes
>realise how much I miss her
>>70418868
>Robert + Lyanna = Jon
This to be honest. Bobby's a cuck who never got to smash, that's part of what makes him all the more tragic
>>70418817
He's not actually, they're both the same age as the books go on. Robb dies at 16 and at the same time Jon is also 16, they were both born the same year, and considering how events play out in books, they can't be more than a few months in difference, not really much older. I mean Jon has also been 17 by the time he gets stabbed and it appears he's been 17 for a fair amount.
>>70418753
how the fuck is the north going to accept a bastard and a targaeryn bastard at that
it violates common sense.
>>70418817
We’re _told_ by the characters that Jon is 14 and Robb turns 15 at some point but that doesn’t mean anything, as Jon could be 1-2 years (or more) older or younger and it wouldn't be noticeable.
Requesting Petyr Baelish knife throat pics
>>70418868
The dumbest is
>Robert + Cersei = Gendry
That she didn't miscarriage and just gave Gendry up because he was Robert's.
>>70418935
>/got/ I dreamt I was old
Cast her, /got/
>>70418934
If Jon is Brandon's son He would have been 4 months older than Robb, theres no way Ned would be banging catelyn while Brandon was still alive
>>70418958
Kings Landing Whore #4
>>70418946
Robb was clearly taller than Jon :^)
>>70418856
>>There's no proof of that
>Except you know, George's own words
No, it's the _character's_ own words and we're only reading what they assume to be the case.
So what does Sam think he's going to do with Heartsbane? If he gave up his namesake to join the Watch, he isn't exactly entitled to it. Homie needs to stop thinking with his dick. Gilly is cute but you don't get speared for cute.
>>70418624
you look like a DOTA fan =)))
>>70418946
>Jon could be 1-2 years (or more) older or younger
Listen, I know that you've forgotten what childhood was like being 45 and all but no, that's not how babies and children up to the age of about 19 work
spicy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6g82nMTcdM
>>70418002
> less-frustrating comic
BHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
>>70418937
They don't know he's a Targ bastard. Bran is the one who's gonna find out.
And they'll accept him as King despite being Ned's bastard as they think, cause he's a natural leader who fucking fought to free the North from Bolton shit rule and keep his "sister" safe, and managed to get Wildlings to fight and die for him, which means he has more balls than all the Houses that just paid Ramsay and Roose's fucking taxes like bitches
>>70418963
Oh I'm agreeing with you, Jon being Brandon's is stupid. Jon is only 3 months younger than Robb though, that's not much older.
Cat got pregnant the night they consummated the marriage, 9 months later she had a child, and Ned returned with Jon a year after he had left (the day after their consummation).
I assume people are getting that Brandon stuff from Cat's fears of Jon fathering children and fighting her own for the right of Winterfell, which while odd based on how legitimacy works, is the only reasoning for that theory, since it would make sense if he was Brandon's, but it's just not possible. Jon at the most is 3 months younger than Robb and possibly only a month or so considering the time it would take him to return from the Tower of Joy->King's Landing->Winterfell.
>>70419012
It all depends on the person, some people look older or younger then they actually are.
>>70418753
Best scenario for me
>sansa becomes queen of the north after annihilating the boltons
>jon becomes king targaeryan and civilizes the wildlings, uniting the kingdoms of westeros and the wildlings (through his bitch), helps the watch out
this will never happen and jon will die due to bullshit plot hax
>>70419027
I miss Ygritte too, but please, get a better quality picture. That one's hurting my autism.
>>70418034
>allows one of the most emotional moments in his comic to be turned into a crass marketing tool by AMC, effectively destroying any tension and emotional weight the original scene had
>attacks Gurm for allowing HBO to "defile" his work by revealing what "Hodor" means before the book
what a faggot
>>70418999
>No, it's the _character's_ own words
Wrong
http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/1040
>All of which is a long winded way of saying, no, Jon was not born "more than 1 year" before Dany... probably closer to eight or nine months or thereabouts.
>>70419100
B-BUT R+L=J IS TOO OBVIOUS! ITS TOO OBVIOUS I TELL YOU!
What are your thoughts on the Waif as a character?
What do you think of her treatment of Arya? Her relationship with Jaqen?Would you let her discipline, abuse, and brutalize you for the greater good?
>>70418034
These are your heroes, you useless fat nerds. These are the people you hoisted up. hope the bearded fat guy poopsweat dripping down onto your foreheads was worth it
>>70418946
>>70419100
If Jon is at least 8 months younger than Dany, and the Hand of the Tourney is at most 7 months into the year, then that would put Dany's birthday in August, and Jon's in December, seeing as how we know he was born in 283AC. Ned was gone for a year, which would mean he left in December, 282AC, meaning if Robb was conceived then, then 9 months later he was born in August, 283AC, being 3-4 months older than Jon.
It all checks out, even if you use Jon is 9 months older than Dany as that would just put Dany/Robb as July and Jon as November.
>>70419075
>children don't work that way
>posts picture of adult to prove me wrong
literally neck yourself and do us all a favour
>>70419072
>I assume people are getting that Brandon stuff from Cat's fears of Jon fathering children and fighting her own for the right of Winterfell
Cat (and her family considering how the blackfish thinks of him) is deeply irrational about anything related to Jon because Ned seems to like him so much.
this statement makes no sense regardless of jon's father and really doesn't imply anything one way or the other
>>70419160
A smirk to surpass smirkfu
>>70419160
A=W
>>70419218
>this statement makes no sense regardless of jon's father and really doesn't imply anything one way or the other
Agreed, it's the only logical place I can figure where people are getting that theory from however.
>>70419100
>probably closer to eight or nine months or thereabouts.
> probably closer to eight or nine months or thereabouts.
The point being, 8-9 months fits R + L = Daenerys.
Also;
“As to your speculations about Catelyn and Ashara Dayne... sigh... needless to say, All Will Be Revealed in Good Time. I will give you this much, however; Ashara Dayne was not nailed to the floor in Starfall, as some of the fans who write me seem to assume. They have horses in Dorne too, you know. And boats (though not many of their own). As a matter of fact (a tiny tidbit from SOS), she was one of Princess Elia's lady companions in King's Landing, in the first few years after Elia married Rhaegar.”
Ashara Dayne = Septa Lemore confirmed.
>>70419243
No it does not, see >>70419212 and >>70418946
Lyanna was confirmed to die in 283AC, it is physically not possible.
>>70419013
that was garbage
please don't try any more
poofter
>>70419212
>Robb is 9 months younger than Jon
Top kek Preston.
That would be one huge "baby" Ned would bring home to a Catelyn that has a kid to measure Jon up to
>>70419268
B-BUT R+L=J IS TOO OBVIOUS! ITS TOO OBVIOUS I TELL YOU!!
ITT: pretending that the timeline of Robert's Rebellion isn't fucked up
>>70419237
My understanding of it has always been that it's a meme theory put forward by people who bought into the "there's no good ending in asoiaf" meme and absolutely demand everything go as badly as possible for all involved
therefore, Ned + Ashara isn't an innocent childhood dalliance that most likely resulted in nothing it was actually a love triangle between Ned, Brandon and Ashara and Ned was brutally shut down and cucked by his older brother who fathered a son on the woman of Ned's dreams and who ned forlornly takes care of to this day to try and keep closer to his dead brother and lost love.
There's no evidence of it in the actual text, it's basically all founded on "Muh thematics" and "muh grrm had a terrible love life irl so he MUST write everything like that even 20 or 30 years later"
>>70418676
Why is she so stumpy and portly bros
Next episode:
>dat Septon Meribald speech
>dat Sandor Clegane resurrection
>dat Broken Man speech
GET. FUCKEN. HYPE.
>>70419306
>How do I reading comprehension the post
Jon and Robb are confirmed to be born in 283AC.
Dany is confirmed to be 14 in both 298/299AC, making her birth 284AC.
Now follow along, because this might seem a bit too hard for you.
>Ned/Cat Marry, Robb is conceived
November-December 282AC
>9 Months Later Robb is born
July-August 283AC
>Lyanna dies
283AC
>Ned returns 1 year later with Jon, Dany is also conceived around this point in time
November-December 283AC
>Dany is 8-9 months younger than Jon and has her 14th nameday at least 6 months into the year
July-August 284AC
Objective secret lovechild ranking:
Sword of the Morning tier:
N+A = J
His is the song of Ice and Fire tier:
R+L = J
Prince that was promised tier:
R+L = A
Stop this meme tier:
R+L = D
Kill yourself tier:
B+A = J
>>70419377
i hold no hope for the broken man speech but hopefully Al Swearengen can bring it
>>70419397
>>Ned returns 1 year later with Jon, Dany is also conceived around this point in time
Dany can't have been conceived after the rebellion you goddamn monkey
>>70419397
B-BUT R+L=J IS TOO OBVIOUS! ITS TOO OBVIOUS I TELL YOU!!
TRUST ME I FIGURED IT OUT SINCE THE FIRST BOOK!
>>70419411
Crikey Dickens tier:
Ned + Benjen = Jon
>>70417207
Tommen dies at the hands of the mountain in the trial by combat
>the septons champion
>>70419279
so edgy xD
>>70419431
Septon Swear-Engine: Welcome to the Saltpans, cock suckers!
>>70419411
Bran goes back in time and impregnates Lyanna you are all retarded
>>70418901
The fappening website already has all her scenes webm'd
>>70419397
Wait, are you arguing for or against B+A=J?
Cause following your timeline Dany can't be conceived after the war's over. Aerys is dead
>>70419445
Or the fact that Dany could have been conceived in November, and Ned returned to Winterfell in December with Jon. The dates still match up perfectly fine.
>>70417248
In the books R+L might = D but in the show R+L will most definetly = J
>>70419514
Bran goes back in time and seduces Rhaegar in the body of his aunt and gets fucked by him, you're an idiot if you can't see how the text implies this
>>70419524
*and no way to make a baby switch between Dany and Jon
>>70419461
Son, do you have something to contribute?
Because adults are having a conversation here.
>implying the dates make any goddamn sense
They don't. Dany's birth makes no fucking sense, especially given her age compared to Jon/Robb.
>>70417275
Not when it comes to......
Actually you're right... Everybody always has the upper hand on the starks
>how the fuck they still around since first men
>>70419431
> hire Ian McFuckingShane
> don't cast him as Euron
BRAVO D&D!
>>70419411
>>70419397
>>70418320
Or maybe, just MAYBE Jon Snow is actually the bastard son of Eddard, legitimized as the heir of Winterfell through Robb's will?
Imagine how badass the legends would be...the legendary Young Wolf (Robb Stark) who rode into battles with his vicious direwolf by his side passed on Winterfell to his bastard half brother, the dark and brooding Jon Stark, who then went on to avenge his father and brother by reuniting the North once again with the snow-white and silent Ghost by his side.
Even IF R+L=J is true, I doubt Jon will give a shit and won't bother associating himself as a Targaryen, but he can still be legitimized under his mother's house as a Stark, right?
But damn, this tale of two brothers would go down as a great fucking legend in Westoros history! The gallant and strong Robb avenged by the silent and cold Jon, two sides of the same coin, bringing the Starks back to glory as the Kings of Winter!
I'm too hype right now lol
>>70417468
>my sides
>what the fuck is that on his head
>just
>>70419609
>tfw they both had identical deaths
>>70416899
Dayne vs Bonhart, maybe, if Bonhart was drunk
>>70419547
Warging someone non-retarded or warging into someone in the past(wasn't specified in the show yet) fries his/her brain. So I expect Lyanna to be screaming "Furhegar" all the way to the tower.
>>70416814
>The Sword of the Morning
>isn't blonde
D&D why
>>70417755
Actually he does, he's a BADASS general bro do your hw
>tywin character 2.0
>>70419411
>these abbreviations
what
If Bran spends his days warging into people to have sex with other people, is he the stallion who mounts the world?
I LOVE THE HOUND
I LOVE SANDOR CLEGANE
I LOVE THE HOUND
WHEN HOUND RETURN?
I LOVE SANDOR CLEGANE
RORY MCCANN IS GOD TIER
>>70417834
>literally the reapers from mass effect
>here to save us from ourselves
>by destroying us
>cant wait for ME4
>>70419659
He's Dornish
>>70419701
He is west Dornish and therefore white
>>70419681
Wait, was Drogo's vegetable state also because of him?
>>70419644
He wargs Lyanna but he never leaves until she dies so the symptoms of retardation never show, he had to live as his aunt for months getting pile drived by the cock of the prince that was promised, Rhaegar would have made her try every position in the book
imagine how hard bran cummed lyannas brains out
>YAASSS SAM SMASHED THE PATRIARCHY BY STEALIN HIS DAD'S SWORD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1639THw4Yo8
>>70419681
whos the cuck in this situation?
>>70419740
kill
>>70419681
>all the time he's just fucking around, warging into people to have sex
>last episode when he and Meera were running away from the zombies he warged into someone in the past and gave someone hardcore fucking
>>70419534
Dany can't have been conceived in november, there's not enough time for either Rhaegar or Aerys to be the father if this is the case
no matter which side you're on this can't possibly be true.
>>70419740
Only the lanky ass short haired blonde girl is attractive.
>>70419584
They have to match up in some way, to the drawing board, I shall figure this out.
>>70419694
hopefuly at the end of the next episode or the end of the one after that. there is no way he isnt coming back. they have been building the hype for this fight since the first season.
IDS HABBENING
>>70418027
Lsh not happening bro.... Like.... Just accept wtf.... Literally no hint of catelyn at all for 2.5 seasons
>yet she will come out of nowhere
>fucking fags still think DD gives a shit about based book characters
I really wish youtube reviewers would provide an outlet for me to ask questions and them to answer them.
>>70417502
TELL ME ABOUT DAYNE; WHY DOES HE WIELDS TWO SWORDS?
How will D&D adapt/ruin the broken man speech?
>Most expensive show of all time
>>70419806
Bruce Lee and Nokia
>>70419822
fucking christ
>>70419803
Preston does, but only about things related (can be small) to the most recent GoT episode
Reminder that Jon is the only man in a long time to genuinely care for Sansa and wanna keep her safe and not just use her as a pawn in shit or cause he swore a vow.
Arya is Waif and her killing herself symbolizes her finally removing her identity. The last part of Faceless men training is to assume an identity and kill your own identity. A=W
Waif is Arya's Durden
>>70419160
A boring edgy character like everything related to Arya past season 3.
>>70419888
When people die they know peace. Some people return from the dead and walk the world again, like Benjen or Farimir in the books. When they are asked what they saw in death, they know nothing of it. Ygritte could tell Jon Snow would rise from the dead
>>70419802
What the fuck has Stoneheart done in the books since she came back? She had one scene at the end of ASoS & another in AFfC with none in ADwD. Did you really think Michelle Farley was gonna stick around for that?
>>70419888
TRIPS COMMAND IT!
----
would be fucking rad
>>70419888
In order to defeat the Waif, Arya must submit to her. She must feel the rod against her back, leaving swollen red marks, she must crawl on the stone to kiss the Waif's feet, she must allow the Waif to spit on her and demean her, to beat her and abuse her.
Only through submission can Arya claim victory and pass her test. She must be disciplined and brutalized, told how worthless she is, spat on, stepped on, beaten senseless.
The Waif will look down on her, smugly, and know that the job is done. When Arya knows her place, she will truly become a Faceless Man.
>>70419806
>>70419822
>>70419849
It's historically accurate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNZyhNFSaE
>>70419160
Basically they're rivals, she's an apprentice too. It's not spelled out but the hints are there: she wears the apprentice robes, she's the only one there besides Arya and Jaqen and she clearly has an unexplained beef towards Arya. Now that Arya has fucked up she's extra smug because she gets to be a faceless.
Or it's a fight club ruse, which would be fucking stupid.
>>70418386
I think Rhaegar believed in the War for the Dawn. Which is why he wanted to have the prince that was promised with Ned's sister. His Kingsguard probably also believed in these prophesies and are wishing Ned luck in those wars. Also maybe they thought/knew Robert would be a shitty king and assumed his reign would lead to future wars and instability.
>>70418320
You barely scratching the surface
>keep learning about theories rookie
>varys blackfyre actually smuggled dany
>aegon is no dragon
>ashara is quaithe
>ashara is dany mother
>>70418594
Book readers just talk about how great he was, and everyone on the show does too.
I feel us show watchers got gypped, he barely fights, and he basically wears peasant leather armor the whole time in Essos.
>>70419822
what the fuck
>>70419888
Why did waif know where needle was
>>70419598
this
>>70418135
That episode was without a doubt the worst in all the series. Absolutely terrible. Fucking show Dorne.
(A member of the Nights Watch stands over a bound and hooded corpse)
Nights Watch Man - TELL ME ABOUT THE DEAD, WHY DO THEY RISE AGAIN?
Nights Watch Man - LOTTA LOYALTY FOR A WHITE WALKER
Night King (the third hostage) - Or perhaps he's wondering why you would kill a man, before throwing him off the wall.
Nights Watch Man - At least you can talk, who are you?
Night King (still bound and hooded) - We are the snow beneath your feet, nobody cared who I was until I laid with an other.
(Nights Watch Man removes hood from Night King)
Who we are does not matter, what matters is our plan.
Nights Watch Man (brandishing normal sword) - If I stab you with this, will you die?
Night King - It would be extremely painful.
Nights Watch Man - You're a cold guy.
Night King - For you.
Nights Watch Man - Was getting caught part of your plan?
Night King - Of course! Jon Snow refused our offer in favour of yours. We had to know what he knows.
LC Jon Snow - Nothing, I know nothing!
(Night King glares at Jon Snow who shrinks back)
Nights Watch Man - Well congratulations, you got yourself caught, what's the next step in your master plan?
Night King - Crushing this Wall...
(Night King breaks out of his bonds)
With no survivors!
(Night King blows Horn of Winter)
I need something else to binge watch similar to Game of Thrones while I'm waiting for more Game of Thrones to come out. Pls help, /got/.
So Benjen said children put obsidian through his heart. Is this how Qyburn does it? How come he made The Mountain to be so obedient?
>>70420197
Legend of the Seeker
>>70417323
if it was vg it would be shitposting about waifus
>>70419822
>bruce lee playing ping pong with nunchucks somehow leads to TWO SWORDS
what
>>70420243
Have you seen the video?
Bruce Lee was the greatest martial artist, and his performance there was absolutely incredible. That can inspire a writer to make a dual wielding swordsman who is supposedly the greatest fighter
Scene was still weak though
>>70420225
that looks like a porn parody of something
>>70420197
Borgia. It has sex, violence and political intrigue. No fantasy tho.
>>70419619
that's not how you greentext, fucking idiot
>>70420131
the episode with 20 good men was the worst. if the story had actual main characters it would have been a total shark jump.
>>70420280
>that looks like a porn parody of something
you say that like it's a bad thing
>>70420225
The whole thing looks like porn but I shall download it and give it a try. Will be worth it just to save in the porn folder judging by that webm. Hnngg.
>>70420280
You mean this?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1582457/
>>70420225
>American "acting"
>>70420340
No, the euro one http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1736341/?ref_=tt_rec_tt
Haven't watched the other
>>70420326
kek I might have to give it a try
>>70420342
The blonde is actually an Aussie fampai
>>70420136
>cold guy for you
>>70420039
Barry's death has got to be one of D&D's most unforgivable changes.
It's true, he went out the way he would've wanted to (on top of a pile of corpses) but he had so much more to do in the books and no doubt in books yet to come. I just don't understand why they did it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS1uBTs9cRQ
Rory's intro to this video is so fucking funny. Also Cleganebowl confirmation mid way through
>>70420374
>>70420225
people who call GoT trashy or badly acted or produced really need to get things in perspective
>>70420197
Watch anime
>>70418135
i fucking hate these whores so much.
>>70420421
based rory
>>70418135
>.gif (1.9 MB, 540x279)
>>70420131
I can understand why they had to make changed to the Dorne plot since it's controversial in the original books (it has no characters we're familiar with up until that point and the Arys Oakheart & Darkstar stupidity) but they could've come up with far superior material than what they did. D&D can write decent dialogue when they feel like it. Why can't they write a better plot when they're being paid to?
>>70420477
>I'll try spinning, that's a good trick
>>70420432
The only anime I can remember liking was Monster, and I don't think it has much rewatch value. Think I never finished it though. I was on episode 60 something. Might pick that up again, but not today.
>>70420506
watch LoGH
>>70420506
Try Fate Zero.
>>70420422
It's largely because the quality we expect from an HBO show in the post-Sopranos/Wire/Deadwood era and the quality we were given during the first 3 or 4 seasons were so high that the silliness in seasons 5 and parts of this one are looked down upon so poorly.
Raising the standards means maintaining the standards, anon.
>>70418027
GRRM said it ain't happening in Balticon
WHAT IF DANY AND JON ARE NON-IDENTICAL TWINS HOLY SHIT SCREEN CAP THIS SHIT
>>70420136
beautiful
>>70419795
And the drawing board is complete.
>>70420670
P O S T I T
>>70420611
Meera is Jon's identical twin
>>70420675
This is assuming R+L=J is true of course.
>Dany’s 14th Nameday after Tournament of the Hand of the King has ended
>TotHotK is at least 6 months into 298AC (June-December)
>Dany is also 14 in 299AC
>Dany was born 284AC
June-December, 284AC is when Dany was born.
>Storm takes Dragonstone
>Dany and Viserys are taken to Essos
>Stannis captures Dragonstone
June-December, 284AC
>Dany was conceived by Aerys 9 months prior
September, 283AC-March, 284AC
>Dany has been confirmed by GRRM to be 8-9 months younger than Jon Snow
Jon Snow Birth: October, 283AC-February, 284AC
>Confirmed that Jon Snow was born in 283AC, this eliminates January-March 284AC
Jon Snow Birth: October-December, 283AC
>Due to this it changes when Dany could have been born to
May-September, 284AC
>As based on information above, we can eliminate May, 284 as a potential nameday for Dany
June-September, 284AC
>This also changes Dany’s conception to
October-December, 283AC
So far
JON’S CONCEPTION: JANUARY-MARCH, 283AC
DANY’S CONCEPTION: OCTOBER-DECEMBER, 283AC
JON’S BIRTH: OCTOBER-DECEMBER, 283AC
DANY’S BIRTH: JUNE-SEPTEMBER, 284AC
Based on this provided info, we can deduce a few things. King Aerys was still alive sometime between October and December of 283AC, in which to conceive Dany, at the same time, if R+L=J is true, then Rhaegar and Lyanna die during this same time period, meaning the Battle of Trident/Tower of Joy had to have happened first, placing it either in October or November, with Aerys conceiving Dany in November to December. So that reduces the dates to.
Dany was conceived in November-December, 283AC.
Dany was born in August-September, 284AC.
(cont.)
>>70420197
You should just read a book. Read some Dumas or something. Three Musketeers and Monte Cristo are easy to read and have a sense of adventure with a grand scope. Full of court intrigue and action.
>>70420712
This matches up with the Tournament and her 14th Name Day, and the fact that she is both 14 in 298AC and 299AC. Because of this, it leads us to reducing Jon Snow’s possibilities quite heavily as well.
Jon was born November-December, 283AC. We can eliminate January, 284AC as a possibility as he has been confirmed to be born in 283AC by GRRM and to be 8-9 months older than Dany, making him 9 months older as the only possibility.
However, we know that Aerys had also died in 283AC, and that Rhaella was already pregnant with Dany at that time, meaning the conception couldn’t have taken place in December, 283AC. This leaves that Dany was conceived in November, and that Rhaella was one month pregnant with Dany when Aerys sent her to Dragonstone.
DANY’S CONCEPTION: NOVEMBER, 283AC
DANY’S BIRTHDAY: AUGUST, 284AC
Because of this we can assume Jon’s conception and birthday due to being 8-9 months older than Dany.
JON’S CONCEPTION: FEBRUARY-MARCH, 283AC
JON’S BIRTH: NOVEMBER-DECEMBER, 283AC
Because we know that The Battle of the Trident/Tower of Joy happened prior to Aerys’ death, that means Jon can’t have been born in December and conceived in March, leaving the only possibilities as February and November. So that leaves us with this.
JON’S CONCEPTION: FEBRUARY, 283AC
JON’S BIRTH/DANY’S CONCEPTION: NOVEMBER, 283AC
MAD KING AERYS DIES: DECEMBER, 283AC
DANY’S BIRTH/TARGARYENS IN EXILE DIE IN STORM: AUGUST, 284AC
Now to go further, we know from GRRM that Robb was born in 283AC as well, January-December 283AC. We also know that Robb is older than Jon, therefore eliminating November and December as months, this coincides with the fact that Robb was conceived the night before Ned left for the Rebellion.
(cont.)
how come we see the depth of ASOIAF but D&D are making fart jokes out of it?
>>70420728
ROBB’S CONCEPTION: APRIL, 282AC-JANUARY, 283AC
ROBB’S BIRTH: JANUARY-OCTOBER, 283AC
We know that the Rebellion started in 282AC, which eliminates January, 283AC as a conception date, and October, 283AC as a birth date.
ROBB’S CONCEPTION: APRIL-DECEMBER, 282AC
ROBB’S BIRTH: JANUARY-SEPTEMBER, 283AC
Seeing as how we know that Ned returned to Winterfell at the Sack of King’s Landing, a year later according to Cat, this puts Jon as a few weeks to a month old when he returns. Seeing as how Robb is is an infant when Cat says that her and Ned had spent a year apart and he had a man’s needs. This means Robb was already born prior, so it puts his dates at.
ROBB’S CONCEPTION: OCTOBER, 282AC-JANUARY, 283AC
ROBB’S BIRTH: JULY-SEPTEMBER, 283AC
We can eliminate January 283AC as a possible conception date, due to the Rebellion and Robb’s conception starting in 282AC, and we can assume Cat would have said a year and a half as opposed to a year, meaning
ROBB’S CONCEPTION: OCTOBER-DECEMBER, 282AC
ROBB’S BIRTH: JULY-SEPTEMBER, 283AC
If Robb had been born in July, he would be close to 6-7 months old when Ned returned from the Sack of King’s Landing, with Jon being a few weeks to a month old, giving them a max difference of age of 5-6 months. If Robb had been born in September, this makes him 2-3 months old when Ned returned, and giving him and Jon a max age difference of 1-2 months. All depending on precise dates.
SO WE HAVE.
ROBB’S CONCEPTION/REBELLION STARTED: OCTOBER-DECEMBER, 282AC
JON’S CONCEPTION: FEBRUARY, 283AC
ROBB’S BIRTH: JULY-SEPTEMBER, 283AC
JON’S BIRTH/DANY’S CONCEPTION: NOVEMBER, 283AC
MAD KING AERYS DIES: DECEMBER, 283AC
DANY’S BIRTH/TARGARYENS IN EXILE DIE IN STORM: AUGUST, 284AC
I hate how there are people that think AFFC was bad
>>70420712
>autism
>>70417729
u are dumber than my cousin, and he is a retard
>>70420746
>tl;dr
>>70420759
The tl;dr is the last 6 lines of the last post
>>70420712
>>70420728
>>70420746
Impressive. Very nice.tldr
>>70420776
yes but what does it mean?
>>70420445
where do whores go?
>>70420753
just plebs and plotfags
>>70420783
That boy needs therapy.
>>70420726
>>70420197
Or read Don Quixote if you haven't already. That's what Sansa would read.
>>70420756
>>70420763
It just means I fit right in. Years on 4chan have definitely made me autistic, I won't lie about that shit.
>>70420759
>>70420765
>>70420781
Just read the last bit.
>>70420746
bravo
truly
now how does this help us with the rest of the timeline of the rebellion?
Can we place the trident and the sacking of kings landing on the timeline?
>>70420225
>>70420374
This show looks fucking badass, this looks more like Gurm's original vision.
>>70420753
It didn't have enough action and ebin twists for casuals to freak out over.
>>70420746
Jon is older than Robb
>>70420740
There is no depth to ASOIAF. It's all dressing, and GURM wants to put it on his salad.
>>70420791
>>70420753
I think people just think it's a comedown from ASoS. A lot of people didn't give a shit about Dorne or the Iron Islands so late in the game plus half the characters people wanted weren't in it. I loved it personally.
>>70420763
>shitposting and menes
>"why is there no proper discussion in got?"
>someone posts a thought-out theory
>"autism"
>>70418386
The Farts To Come
>>70420844
>Preston is literally having a breakdown in this thread and in youtube right now
How do we save him bros?
>>70420826
Trident is around November, 283AC, Sacking is around December, 283AC. Matches up with the birthdates, conception dates, and the fact that we know Jon was born towards the end of the Rebellion.
>>70420837
He's not.
>>70420868
>Trying to work out a fictional character's birthday that the author himself has probably never thought about
>Not autism
If that scene where everyone sit in Castle Black and eat and don't talk isn't a proof that D&D are utter hacks, I don't know what is.
They probably told themselves that it's so DEEP that everyone just remains silent, but fuck no, it's just laziness and inability to write.
>>70420928
It is, but I'd rather have autism than "cast her"
>>70420868
All good anon, I expected it, it is pretty autistic honestly. I'm just terribly fucking bored and don't feel like drawing, so I figured I'd try to figure it out since everyone was having a discussion on it.
>>70420791
>plotfags
The plot is literally the only reason to read this piece of shit book series
>>70420726
>>70420817
Will download and get around to them eventually, though I don't read nearly as much as when I was a kid. I think I have read the first two before.
>>70420917
Wait if the sack is that late then that means that Ned wouldn't have been back in winterfell for months right?
>>70420928
Considering how much he goes into family trees and shit, I'd say he's likely worked it out as well.
is anyone else getting sick of web "journalists" reading the reddit spoilers and then making bold "predictions?"
ie. "Is the hound returning to the game of thrones next week? here's all the evidence to prove it"
fuck these idiots.
>>70419819
More like the Skirmish of the Wall
>>70420971
In all likelihood, yes, but for everything to match up then he returned to Winterfell within the month. The dates don't match up entirely perfectly by any means, especially since we don't know the exact dates and never will, seeing as how the Sacking could have been December 1st, and Ned returned December 31st. But it's the best you can work out based on what we've been told. Give or take a few weeks or a month or so in some places.
>>70420987
It's the age of clickbait we live in
>>70420942
Then you should probably move to r/asoiaf or westeros.org
>>70418422
MADNUSS
>>70418624
I'll be completely honest with you. You look like a Greyjoy.
>>70421041
There is literally nothing wrong with westeros.org.
>>70421011
idk anon isn't the order:
The Sack
Starfall
ToJ
Back to starfall
Winterfell?
Could he do all this in a month?
>>70421063
According to GRRM, yes. ToJ/Starfall have to happen relatively close to it for people to assume Jon is Ashara's as well.
I think somewhere along the lines GRRM just screwed up a date which caused everything else to get screwed up honestly, or screwed up someone's age, Jon or Dany's most likely based on how everything should technically work out.
>>70421099
Maybe Cat doesn't quite remember or is being vague about the whole year thing
if you tacked on even a month or two it'd fix the whole issue
>>70421144
That's definitely possible, she could just say a year and mean a year and 5 months really. Either way, the dates are accurate or close to it within a month or two. This is also completely assuming Westeros follows a calendar and yearly cycle like ours, which it should since it's loosely based on the War of the Roses.
>>70421158
>>70421158
>>
new
NEW BREAD
>>70421158
>>70421158
>>70421158
>>70420696
>2016
>not realizing it´s the same actor
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