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Leave vidyakino to me.
All the good things flow into the city.
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>>70297644

Cool Batman ripoff
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This was cancelled after Watchmen didn't make enough money.

Sony was convinced that high-concept cerebral sci-fi with expansive sets/special-effects and an emphasis on world-building weren't profitable.
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>>70297854
I hate synder so much
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>>70297644
I would pay good money to see a decent film adaptation of this.
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>>70297644
Rapture really would be pretty on the big screen.
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>>70297644
A film adaptation of Bioshock would ruin its principal theme. Bioshock needs to be an interactive experience.
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>>70298225
two sentences, thread over
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>>70298225
>>70298247
nah. It could be adapted to movie media with no problem and still be true to the concept
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>>70298293
It really can't.

So much of the impact of the "would you kindly" reveal came from you controlling the protagonist throughout the game.

Bioshock's interactiveness implicates you in the story. You feel like you're doing what you want, then it hits you with the what you already knew the whole time--you're following down a set path designed by someone else and there's no way to deviate from it.

There is literally no way to translate this part of Bioshock into a non-interactive medium.
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>>70298381
That could be subverted well enough by having Jack follow Atlas mindlessly without questioning him. Don't make Jack completely silent like the game, but at the same time have him serve as a vessel for the audience. The reveal would still be plenty shocking
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>>70298427
If it was done that way it would just be a rehash of The Manchurian Candidate. The way Bioshock contributed to that idea was by involving the player. It's not just a character you're observing getting a hit with da twist that they weren't in control. You, as in you playing the game, felt like you were in control, because you were the cog in the machine driving the action forward. But the path was chosen for you, and not only is that cool in the story but it's also interesting on the metanarrative level. Single player video games are designed experiences, and you can't deviate from the constraints of the game. We all choose to ignore this when we play video games, because that's what suspension of disbelief is.

Bioshock was more than just a neat twist because of what it did in that department. As a movie, it would lose so much of what made it interesting in the first place that it really just isn't worth doing save for the visuals of a sick underwater city/twisted plasmid splicers/big daddies.
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>>70297907
>Snyder's style is perfect for bioshock, right down to waxing Ayn rands philosophy and religious imagery
>His failures killed it second hand
Bravo Snyder.
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Reminder that Libertarianism is the only logical path for humanity
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>>70298651
If it were logical, it would have dominated all other ideologies by now and become the order of the world.

Power is everything. People want to be lead. Libertarianism is a fantasy of the weak who desperately grasp at self-ownership in a world totally incompatible with it.
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>>70298560
Jack's story doesn't have to be told, there's plenty to work with in the world just going off diaries and side characters, which would be far easier to work with than a mute with an ugly sweater.
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>>70298711
logic doesn't mean it will catch on. often the most illogical things (religion, racism, etc) will rise to the top because of base human instincts.
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>>70298719
Well *that* I totally agree with.

A Bioshock movie could work if it was a story about Andrew Ryan and Rapture. Lots of stories to tell in that world no doubt.

But the story of Bioshock 1 can't be done justice without the interactive element. That's all I meant.
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>>70298742
Libertarianism is staked on the empirically baseless assumption that individual people are worth something in themselves.

But the fact is, the way we organize ourselves, spurred on by our deepst, most human nature, is not individualistic.

We crave leaders. We crave to let go of power to be comfortable. We resent that, that's another part of being human, but we still can't resist the sweet sensation of worship.
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>Leave the vidyakino to me Booker!
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>>70298853
If that game's story wasn't a fucking mess, I'd kill for a movie of that.
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>>70298804
Reminder that neo-liberalism is a disease
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>>70298885
same, the setting was awesome.
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>>70298853
why is there such a vast quantity of rule 34 based on Elizabeth?
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>>70299098
Because she's hot + incest?
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>>70299094
It was beautiful, vibrant as hell. Ken Levine got so far up his own ass though. Just a lame story with DUDE LIGHTHOUSES LMAO.
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>>70298853

She's easy to cast.

Its RoonRoon
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>>70299129

>not Felicity Jones

Get the fuck out.
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>>70299098

Because she's an attractive blue-eyed white European female. The very thing the world is trying to make extinct, and rarity increases value and desirability.
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>>70298381
The 'would you kindly' twist was retarded anyways. The whole appeal of Bioshock was that the bad guys weren't just evil, just passionate libertarians who held their beliefs fast even in the most extreme of circumstances, and ended up so far removed from real life consequences they became monstrous as a result.
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>>70299098
Blue Eyes + Pale Skin = Goddess

Cast her

and don't name me a pornstar or anything, give me an actual actress that can act.
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>>70299219
Stoya.
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>>70297644
My favourite game - but a movie adaptation would probably be crap.
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>>70299219

Sarah Gadon
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Cast Andrew Ryan.

I'd say that dude from Mad Men who played Howard Stark in Civil War.
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>>70297644
>>>/v/
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>>70299355

You mean Dominic Cooper?
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>>70298742

>the most illogical things (religion, racism, etc)

I was wondering when Tumblr would show up.
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>>70298381
Why do you assume it would be the same story? I would love to see early rapture and even pre rapture Ryan planning everything and making it happen. The civil war is perfect for a movie. Have a straight plasmid and gat battle like crazy
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>>70299355
Idris Elba
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>>70298758

There is a prequel book that they could work with. It was pretty good.
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>>70298742
Then how does the free market work?
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>>70298225
Well, that explains Bioshock Infinishite.
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>>70298719
but that would involve some level of creativity to expand those into feature length stories and further expanding the games world building via a new medium. No, it would much easier for the studio to have someone copy and paste the story already laid out, then just throw in some quips for the protagonist to toss out so general audiences feel compelled to root for him cause they made them giggle. Then get M Night Shyamalan to direct because its got a big twist and who better than Twisty McGoober himself.
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>>70299098
ideal damsel in distress
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I think some parts of bioshock 1 and 2 were too extreme for mainstream audience. Cutting them would make the story boring.
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>>70298225

Infinite is a film adaption of the Bioshock series.
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How much say should Ken Levine have if there's a film adaptation?

>>70299586
I give this man props, he put his ideal waifu into a AAA game so there would massive loads of Rule 34 done of her.
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>>70298560
>If it was done that way it would just be a rehash of The Manchurian Candidate.
>In an underwater city

I'd pay to see that.
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>>70299195
>Randian caricatures
>Libertarian
I don't even disagree with the rest of your post, but the characters in Bioshock are anarchists to the extreme, despite what Ken intended and which references he put in.
Also,
>Rand
>Libertarian
To be in high school again
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>>70297907
t.I have no idea why I'm alive retard
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>>70299243
done
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>>70298225
is it really an interaction if you have 0 choices?
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>>70299515
I'm getting tired of this meme.
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>>70299818

do what I did, filter it, or just straight up ignore it.
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>>70299818
I thought memes were supposed to be funny.
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>>70299462
So much this, the best part of Bioshock was the Multiplayer lobby in Bioshock 2. Sitting in your room surrounded by a view of the vibrant (but not yet rundown) city.
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>>70299987
That game was pretty underrated.

The story was decent.
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>>70299782
The real world player feeling abused by this is a major plot point.

Rapture works as a setting but the plot of the game itself doesn't work as a film.
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>>70300013
how about 2?
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>>70299243
fuckn yes
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>>70300013
Lies, you literally have to follow point A to point B with voices telling you objectives. Beeg tweest didn't amount to much after slugging though the archaic shooting and game simplicity. I was more mad IRL over the game being whatever than the silly we still fukken slaves mang end. I mean the 'abuse' scene is like literally the only cutscene in the game, maybe you should play Final Fantasy if you want to feel raped?
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>>70299685
http://kotaku.com/stop-making-porn-with-my-characters-bioshock-creator-p-1442945516
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>>70298651
Libertarianism is just the capitalist version of communism, pure bullshit and not possible at all.
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>>70298742
Racism isn't illogical. It's evolutionary.
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Leave vidyakino to me.
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>>70299094
too bad that levine used quantum mechanics as a story element since he liked the idea that he didn't understood quantum mechanics
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>>70297644

>hans zimmer

No, period music only. And fuck Nolan, get Curtis Hanson to do it. He's due.
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The first game was videogamekino itself. Gino?
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>>70301196
>what is the Streisand-effect
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>>70300013
>The real world player feeling abused by this is a major plot point
No, the protagonist being betrayed is a major plot point.
The player feels it second hand, like all interaction in a video game.
The player has no option to disobey Atlas's orders, so why would this feel like a betrayal to the player and not the character they happen to be controlling?
You know, the person in the narrative who is actually making decisions?
Jesus Christ.
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>>70302332
>t. (literal) autism

The player is meant to identify with Jack. That's YOU running through Rapture, unknowingly obeying Atlas and betrayed by everyone. It seems that you have no theory of mind.
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Can we talk about the travesty that was the subtitles in Bioshock 1?

>FONTAINE: My name's Atlas, boyo. And I'm here to get you through the city alive.

I spent the whole game wondering why everyone was freaked out about Fontaine before I realised that the retards in charge of subs had fucked it all up.
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>>70302674
I didn't notice, is it fixed in the PS3 version?
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>>70302868
Wouldn't know, I only played the 360 version. I imagine there was a pretty decent uproar about it, so probably.
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>>70297644
It would be a great trilogy
>Rapture in the first episode
>Columbia in the second
>Back to Rapture (Burial Sea) as the finale
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>>70302332
>the player has no option to disobey
Bingo.
Games offer illusion of choice. Bioshock subverted that expectation.
This ain't hard to grasp.
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>>70298853
>>70299219
I want to do awful things to her
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>>70302918
>Columbia
>Ever
Infinite was god awful.
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>>70299219
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>>70303043
no
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>>70303043
This.
When will the endless horde of enemies, zero plot, artificial difficulty, fad die?

Really upset me that 343 decides to do the same thing with halo 4
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>>70298651
>every street, road or building have a toll
>logical path for humanity
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>>70299568

I think a Mark Meltzeresque storyline would be great, have the movie set in the mid 60's inbetween the Ryan and Lamb sagas, it can explore how desperate things got without anyone to lead the city.
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>>70303107
Yes.
>>70303131
That final fight eh?
And even ignoring the pretentious and dull lighthouses ending, the plot fell apart the second they said "I'll hop to a new reality to get this item and assume the Vox in that reality will be identical to this one."
It made Booker seem retarded and it assumed players were retarded.
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>>70303052
how is this possible
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>>70298711
All the other ideologies are germinations of unrestricted libertarianism of nature. Everyone in nature is free to do what they can, and some people can enslave the rest, and do so.

You could even call them cancers, but I think that is going too far.
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>>70299982

Tell that to Facebook, Reddit, 9Gag and Tumblr
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>>70298651
because Rapture was such a success, right?
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>>70300010

Bioshock 2 works because it has a shitton more replay value and the story isn't all about revealing some epic twist.
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>>70303241
Without the magic science it might have been
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>>70297854
>Bioshock
>High concept cerebral sci-fi
Tee hee.
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>>70303275
Splicing was just a catalyst, Rapture was always a powder keg.
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>>70299219

Michelle Trachtenberg?
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>>70303257
but there is a twist.

the twist is that there is no twist
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>>70303194
>the weapons aren't here?
>They MUST have already been given to our friends!
>That's the only possible explanation!
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>>70303343

or pic related
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>>70303358
>tfw Sinclair never willingly betrays you and continues to help you even as you put him down
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>>70299447

Racism is illogical though.
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>>70303419
>Sinclair
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>>70303388
Was THAT what happened? I must have scoured that part from my mind. My god, that IS retarded...
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>>70303275
It still would have been a place filled with the egomaniacal and the increasingly paranoid, the only thing the mad science did was provide a quicker metaphor for unchecked objectivism.
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>>70303429
Being a dick to others based on race is illogical.

Believing that average IQ varies by race might not be (I can't tell).
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Why did Fontaine bother pretending to be someone else while speaking to the player? When he tells Jack to kill Ryan Jack's totally unable to resist. Why not save himself some trouble and just say "would you kindly go kill Ryan" right away without crafting an elaborate plot to fool someone who's completely under his control anyway?
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Why do people pretend Bioshock is an important franchise that deserve a movie adaptation? The last one flopped due to the cartoony artstyle and killed its studio. The franchise didn't even last 2 generation. No one care about it except some /v/ autists
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>>70297854
>Sony
>the studio behind seth rogen, grimbsy and fembusters
We're better off if those retards not touching this.
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>>70303637
>Why didn't Obi Wan just tell Luke bout Vader...?
Plots work better revealed slowly.
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>>70303641
Infinite flopped because it was dogshit, not because it was "cartoony".
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>>70303637
He used Jack to set other things in motion. Killing the doctor, getting Tennenbaum out of hiding, other things I don't remember.

Andd because that's what the plot requires for a fun game
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test
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>>70299435

Yeah he's pretty spot on, only maybe age him a little bit with makeup, he's to young in this pic.
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>>70299355
Daniel Day Lewis is the only logical answer.
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hope you guys are hyped for big screen OY LAZARE

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5180504/
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>>70303429
As someone said above, racism is evolutionary. We are a tribal species and were never meant to be forced together into one big mixing pot.

It's also entirely logical based on the fact that most races are disliked for a good reason. People condemning racism often leave that part out, how people's dislike of blacks, say, is based on a very reasonable knock on effect of the majority of them behaving the way they do. Same applies to any race. It isn't fashionable to say so, but stereotypes are there for a reason.
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>>70299671
hey pal you deserve more yous that was pretty slick
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>>70297644
>Nolan
>Bioshock
yeah no
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>>70299161
>>70299129
it's Zooey
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>>70305631
Good shout.
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>>70305335
Racism is as evolutionary as religion, and saying that doesn't mean shit.
It doesn't mean that it's not vestigial and it doesn't mean that we still need it or that it is still logical in modern times.
Ffs everything we are is evolutionary.

>It's also entirely logical based on the fact that most races are disliked for a good reason.
How much of the /pol/ cool aid have you been drinking?
It's only logical from an evolutionary point because aversion to things that hurt us previously would keep us safer.
But we're no longer living in small vulnerable tribes in the middle of the jungle anymore.
We can actually afford things like the judicial system, and actually demanding evidence before condemning a person on simple hearsay.
We can afford to install systems that make sense today but were probably not logical much earlier in human history.
And we can judge people on a person by person basis without having to fall back on generalizations and judging entire groups based on some arbitrary associations just because it's simpler for us.
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>>70299355
Viggo Mortensen
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>>70305138
>Would you kindly!?

Yeah I see it.
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i buy 3 vidyas a year.
bought infinite, thought it was amazing, the setting, the plot, the characters.

is it because im a neophyte?
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Bioshock 2 was the best one of Bioshock games.
Fuck you all.
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>>70309151
suck my dick faggot
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>>70297644
This would be the only adaptation that Snyder actually could pull off.
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>>70309372
no way
rapture is too colorful for snyder
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>>70299355
Ray Wise
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>>70299219
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Anybody think james cameron as producer/director could pull this off?
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>>70309542
no
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>>70298651
I think you mean Feudalism m8
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Let kino to me
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
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>>70298225
Love the pseudo-intellectual gamer meme
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>>70299355
Immediately thought of him
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>>70309471
I like all the actors except Daddario
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>>70299355
Josh Brolin
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>>70309714
I'm actually thankful to MGSV because it snapped me out of my vidya obsession
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>>70310506
Whoa, that is scary accurate to the pic
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>>70309471
if you get a good director and not that mediocre one we have a deal.
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>>70309032
if you think hard enough the supposedly hard plot falls apart
BUT
this is true for almost all media, I like the plot, setting and characters were strong enough for me to care for them
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>>70298225
>mfw plebs think Bioshock has a "principal theme"
>mfw plebs think "hahaha you're really doing what we want and have no choice" is clever when older titles already did that and the game blatantly offers less freedom than the ones it apes
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>>70298853
Alexandra Daddario?
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>>70313540
tits too big
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>>70299129
no, Alexandra Daddario
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>>70313743
fuck she's ugly
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>>70313584
she have big titis
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>>70313743
nah she's a coalburner
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>>70299355

Gillian Anderson
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>>70302674
Wow, what a fuck up.
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This could be Bioshock Infinite

[embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOx4HKrYHKc[/embed]

Instead, it was a shit Mass Effect 2 in first person (all the vigors have simillar powers compared to ME's).
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>>70302674
I don't get it. What's wrong with the subs?
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>>70315185
>FONTAINE: My name's Atlas, boyo.

You weren't suppose to know Atlas is actually Fontaine.
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>>70298589
Wrong. Synder by his own admission is a dumbass and only likes muh rape and muh violence. He didn't know wtf Watchmen was about so I doubt he could wrap his head around Bioshock.
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>>70298225
The fuck you talking about? Its principal theme is the failing of libertarian philosophy in action. The free choice stuff is only secondary and would work completely fine in a movie.
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>>70299685
0. The first one can be a pretty direct adaptation, the only change needed besides cutting for time would be to give the protagonist a voice. The second half of Infinite would need to be changed significantly though.
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>>70302674
hahahah holy shit
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>>70302674
>>70302868
>>70314246
>>70315775
>>70317188

Literally never happened, you gullible fucking retards.
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