Just watched this, why is it so highly regarded? It's a 6/10 at best.
Directing and editing were fucked, and the score was obnoxious. Story was okay, but could have been done better, which goes back to bad directing.
Not sure what's so great about this one. The grocery store robbery was the best scene in the whole thing.
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>>70291201
Cool but could you explain why you think its good without using memes
>>70291161
You're a pleb. It's an innovative insight to the life of one man and the complicated emotions of ennui and loneliness.
>hur dur the only good part was the actiony one xD
>directing and editing were fucked
how?
>>70291259
I'm not gonna spoonfeed you but I guess I will give you a couple points. The fact that you list an action scene as your favorite part tells me that you fundamentally don't understand the movie. It's about Travis descending into loneliness and depression. His only attempts at human contact are foiled by his own autism, the only other contact he gets is at the porn theater and with creeps that get jacked off in the back of his taxi. When he tries to assassinate that dude it's not because he doesn't like him, at least in my opinion, he's hoping that someone will finally end his lonely existence. It really is one of the only 10/10 movies that there are.
>>70291263
I saw how he was supposed to be represented as lonely. Travis had friends from work and obviously had no trouble approaching people and starting conversation, but just seemed to not be able to empathize with people on a personal level or understand why others' morals may be different. I really liked that aspect, but it can be shown in a way other than montages of him playing with his new guns.
>>70291369
Off the top of my head I recall the last hallway scene being very poorly edited. Lots of slow-motion, audio not lining up, and no sense of visual direction. In regards to directing it seemed like Scorcese tried to nail a bunch of different genres (noir, action, thriller, exploitation) but couldn't stick to a single one. Another thing that bugged me was that a lot of the dialogue seemed to be from the first take; actors repeat their lines or pause before the next sentence. It's normal for realistic conversation but an odd direction for film.
>>70291462
Again, I can see why it's supposed to be about loneliness but that doesn't make it a good movie.
>>70291632
directing is fucked up because of one scene?
what the fuck does mixing genres have anything to do with directing? those genres can all be directed in different ways
>>70291161
>It's a "Bash on a universally loved movie to look smart." episode
>>70291161
>the score was obnoxious.
Holy shit, this is the dumbest thing I've ever read. I mean, we all have different opinions, but I've never read an opinion that's so mindboggingly shitty. How do you even live with yourself?
>>70291632
What it's about isn't what makes it a great movie, the execution was. You are beyond saving. You will never be a patrician. Go back to your capeshit and GOT threads pleb.
>>70291720
>directing is fucked up because of one scene?
Directing is fucked because Scorsese doesn't know what to do with his movies and just does whatever he thinks is cool.
>>70291727
I don't like the fucking movie, I'm asking why others think it's great. Besides "muh loneliness" I haven't gotten a good answer.
>>70291776
The standout music in the movie is the dark jazz that played throughout multiple scenes with differing tones. It kind of threw it off for me because it was obvious the director was going for a certain feel that wasn't reflected by the scenes we were shown.
>>70291817
Execution was the worst part, though. It had all the parts to be a good movie but wasn't put together all that great.I know this will be taken as bait, but I didn't like Raging Bull at all either. Maybe I just don't like Scorsese's style because Last Temptation was the only thing of his that I've liked.
>>70291161
>>70291918
The worst part is I know it's not bait. I now know that I live in a world where people THIS plebeian exist. Honestly feels terrible. You should probably consider suicide so you can't have kids that will inevitably grow up to be just as uncultured as you. Honestly how does somebody not like taxi driver or raging bull? Raging bull is easily a 9/10 and taxi driver is a 10/10.
My first post in the thread, watched this for the first time the other night too and I really dug the atmosphere and the way the crime ridden city was presented.
I liked how travis' motivations were ambiguous most of the time and he was always in his own little world because of his crippling loneliness.
One of the only parts I disliked was after the shootout when the camera was zooming out onto the street the music keep repeating and booming and it was stressful. Probably intentional though
Didn't know this movie was so objectively liked on /tv/. I know it had a lot of support but I figured there'd at least be a few who didn't like it.
>>70292122
Raging Bull was a good movie, I can acknowledge that. Very well done, well put together. I didn't like it because I went in expecting Rocky (one of my favorites of all time) and it was nothing like it. It's more of a "what could have been" sort of dislike than actual disdain for the movie.
>>70291632
Goddamned idiot. The loneliness is a MINOR theme. The ennui is a major one. He feels as if his existence is being squandered, that he has no purpose. These scenes are to help emphasize that.
Fucking pleb.
>>70292292
>I really dug the atmosphere and the way the crime ridden city was presented.
That was actually well-done. That aspect was like being able to see through Travis' eyes, which was nice. Regarding his ambiguous motives, that was nice for character building but didn't do it for me when it came to character development. Shootout is another example of poor editing in my opinion.
>>70292360
Didn't think about it like that, I can see where you're coming from. The talk between Travis and Wizard is exactly what you're talking about,and while I felt it was pretty hamfistedI do see what you're saying.
>>70292303
There aren't very many movies on /tv/ that everybody likes here but this is definitely one of them. And I guess I can sort of understand that, there are a few movies like that for me. The biggest example would be punch drunk love. I know it's a good movie, but I have zero desire to ever watch it again because I went in expecting Sandler's usual schtick, and the part where he speeded out and broke his sisters window made me keep thinking that for like half of the movie, and got something completely different. Only time I liked him in a serious role like that was in reign over me. Which by the way is great, I highly recommend it. It really pisses me off when people show that they have genuine talent like that, but then decide to continue pandering to morons just to stay relevant.
>>70292462
>it was hamfisted
>I didn't like the execution
Blah blah blah
They did a good job. All you even fucking say is how you don't like it, without even giving any kind of reasoning. Piss off
The execution was just fine. The cinematography and editing were wonderful, the visual aspect of the scenes really helped complement the themes being conveyed, the score was enjoyable and served to further the work already done by the cinematography, and you my friend, are a fucking PLEB.
>>70292584
Is this some new form of internet trolling or something? If so, you win buddy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDgXeYlpbOE
I thought it was hamfisted because the dialogue amounts to nothing more than
"I want to do something big"
"A man's his job, and Travis, you're a Taxi Driver™"
And maybe I keep bringing up this single scene since it's the last thing I remember, but it's terribly done. Only good shot is the overhead view at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CImWc7og28
>>70291161
What else are your problems with this great film op or just Scorsese's films in general?
>>70292984
Like I said in another post, I've only seen about 4 of his movies.
Didn't like Taxi Driver
Raging Bull was good but I didn't like it
Last Temptation was damn close to a 10/10
Wolf of Wall Street was pretty much the definition of average
Haven't seen any of his mob stuff, I may watch a few of those before I decide whether or not I have an issue with his style or just those particular movies.
>>70291161
I enjoy this film, especially thescore. I had the privilege of watching it in an old theater in my neighborhood, totally different experience.
>>70291632
>Another thing that bugged me was that a lot of the dialogue seemed to be from the first take; actors repeat their lines or pause before the next sentence. It's normal for realistic conversation but an odd direction for film.
The pauses and such are to make all of Travis' interactions with people seem awkward. No one quite sure what to say. He doesn't really know how to converse on anything other than small talk bullshit, such as with the co-workers.
YOU KNOW WHO LIVES THERE?
>>70293036
You should definitely try his mob films see if you like his style or not.
Even if you end not liking them I still recommend his comedy-drama film " Alice doesn't live here anymore" it's pretty good.
>>70293512
>Alice doesn't live here anymore
Oh cool I didn't know he directed that one, I've been meaning to watch it for some time. Which of his mob flicks should I start with?
>>70293679
Goodfellas and then Casino.
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>>70293762
Goodfellas, the departed, then casino
>>70293762
>>70293832
Thanks friends
I kind of agree with you, OP. Taxi Driver and Raging Bull were always two of my least favorite Scorsese films. I know exactly what you mean about dialog being slightly off in the editing. Really ruins the immersion. I mean they're still much better than what most other directors can spit out, just not my cup of tea.
On the other hand, Meanstreets is one of my favorites, even though it's in the same style of Taxi Driver. I could list reasons why, but not sure it's worth the effort. And of course The King of Comedy and Goodfellas are great, Goodfellas in particular being a 10/10 masterpiece.
>>70291161
stop trying to be clever. If you don't like it, that's your problem-the directing wasn't "fucked".
>>70291161
>OP never served his country by fighting in an unwinnable war
>OP will never know what it's like to be a vet who feels his country abandoned him
>>70291462
I don't think his murders and attempts of were mainly suicidal. I saw them as him taking the most important person of the two girls he's had contact with to either make someone share his loneliness or to replace them.
the city is hell and he is an innocent sould trying to adapt
>being this fucking retarded
Are you serious OP? The editing is intentionally erratic. Similar to how writes like James Joyce cleverly played around with the structure of language, film can do the same with the structure of how things are shown. The film is edited erratically with quick cuts as a visual metaphor for Bickle's own deteriorating sanity.
The film is great. It's a perfectly American response to literary European existential fiction. Instead of being a perfectly reflective and well educated member of the intellectual bourgeoisie Travis is instead a former soldier, blue collar cab driver. The film explores that kind of crisis from the eyes of someone who hasn't spent their life in privileged academic circles. As a midwestern WASP Travis feels like he doesn't fit in anywhere in New York and resents his surroundings. The friction of his wasp-y background colliding with 1970's New York is the crux of the whole movie, OP.
The movie is a masterpiece
