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BASED Kotto
>>70283295
delete this shit right now
>>70283295
LINK:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/apr/08/former-007-villain-yaphet-kotto-says-james-bond-cannot-be-black
Idris could play Bond because he's a great actor. If they have him for that it's okay but if they have him for being black it's an offense to both his acting ability and the Bond character
>>70283295
FUCKING UNCLE TOM ASS MUTHA FUCKA
>>70283362
>They were afraid the public would react negatively to a black villain so they didn’t play my character up. That hurt me a lot, man, it affected the bonus situation
what did he mean by this
>>70283427
Why is Uncle Tom still associated with "selling out?" Has anyone actually read the novel?
based negro.
however bond was ruined forever with craig. he is worse than an eventual chink, black or latino bond. prove me wrong.
protip : u cant.
>>70283600
>Have black people read
>black people read
He was pretty great in The Running Man. I trust him.
>>70283397
Basically. Idris is a impressive acting talent. I'd personally just like to see him in more stuff in general. But shoe-horning him into 007 just because he's black is basically an insult to both black people and the franchise. African UK actors and African American actors are completely capable without being thrown a cookie.
>character is literally an imperialist dinosaur cold war relic
>hurr let a black man play him, they're just as British as you
What? Bond is a silver spoon Etonian motherfucker. He's like privilege incarnate
>>70283613
>however bond was ruined forever with craig
It's like you didn't even watch Casino Royale.
>>70283613
My rebuttal: Craig is the best Bond, much better than Sean "I have the emotional range of a board" Connery.
Feel free to try to counter my argument (you won't)
also, not female
>>70283613
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC8Ls-5nRxM
Ruined Bond? Hmm... might have to agree with you, Anon.
>>70283295
>Black men should stop trying to play roles created by whites. These roles are not written for black men. We have pens [to create] roles that no one else has established
BASED
>>70283295
Well put. Fuck those PC faggots. Blacks already have their James Bond and his name is John Shaft.
>It is a typical example of an intrastate African monarchy. Kotto said he learned that his father's family was royal in adult life while studying his family's lineage, and said he is also a descendant of Queen Victoria. According to Kotto, his father was an observant Jew who spoke Hebrew.
>>70283751
it makes sense, why try to shoehorn black people into roles that are just fairy tales and will make no sense. It's better to have black actors show off their talents into roles that can expand their careers and maybe make a new genre.
I mean just look at Tyler Perry, he made "crazy black auntie" comedies just by being a typical black character.
>>70283793
If we get a black Bond, then there should be a white Shaft.
>>70283613
you are right, 007 was something closest to superhero Europe(ok,UK) had.
He was always gentleman first, brute as an last resort.
With Craig they made him in generic American hero.
And now they want him to be black, God save the Queen but how could
someone who is not of noble stock enter such hidden organisation at all.
His relatives should at lest be some baron etc....
JB is corny, and his place is in 50' last century, but that is what gave him his charm.
If it was me, I would make new Bonds in 1950-70 era
>>70283894
>I would make new Bonds in 1950-70 era
I think you're looking for The Man From UNCLE.
>>70283674
Fucking this. Placating blacks with white roles only makes tokenism even more real. Where are all the rich black actors setting up scholarships for emerging black writers? Or black directors? Why can't Will Smith use his billions to help black kids who want to work in film a chance with some monetary safety?
You can't just expect all these black talents to appear out of nothing. Artists need cultivation as much as anything.
>>70283793
I support this. Reboot the series with Elba.Tone down the racist elements (just keep Shaft smooth as mf) and you'll have a series. Why is this not a thing?
>>70283295
PROBLEMATIC
>>70283295
Give this man a bonus
>>70283674
Agreed completely.
Taking a previous formula and changing it like that is dumb.
But make new content unrelated to such formulas? Totally down for that.
Idris as a spy could be cool as fuck.
Just not 007.
I'd rather see a Luther movie than Elba as Bond.
I want girl Bond
>>70283793
>>70283841
Seriously! \\All these whiny faggot crying, "WAAAHH - Givus us black and female versions of your popular white/male characters!"
All you proud blacks and strong independent woman make the effort to create your own damn characters and stop leaning on hard working white males to do everything for you.
>>70283691
Anyone who can't grasp this simple concept knows fuck all about film, literature, fiction in general.
It's like a white actor playing John Shaft. It's incompatible with the most basic aspects of his character. No matter how great an actor, how convincing his ebonics, it's just ridiculous.
British blacks are not like american blacks. American blacks are culturally from another planet compared to their white compatriots. They speak a different dialect of english, they have their own music, their own clothing, they even live in their own segregated neighborhoods.
British blacks are, well, just british
>>70284139I agree. I'd rather see a female Bond over a black Bond
But hey, that's just me.
>>70284183
what is so white about 007?
also this
>>70284307
>>70283652
Maybe someone should make a rap song reading the novel?
>>70284307
Niggers are niggers no matter where they're from
>>70283613
>craig
>bond
>>70283295
>it's a Z-list actor comes out of virtual limbo to speak the least controversial opinion but one that isn't pushed by the media and everyone eats it up episode
>>70284437
That interview is so fucking based.
Only person who should play the next Bond:nobody
>>70283674
Based anon is based.
>>70283397
>Idris could play Bond because he's a great actor.
or, or and this may sounds bit crazy but he may start in his own action movie and maybe kick of a franchise like jason bourne
>>70284437
CRAWWWWWWLLLLIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNGGGGGG
>>70284437
kek sauce?
>>70283701
Was that the one with the eco warrior and terrible end fight in the museum in the desert?
>If I say I want to play JFK, I should be laughed out of the room.
BASED Kotto
>>70283295
>Black men should stop trying to play roles created by whites. These roles are not written for black men. We have pens [to create] roles that no one else has established
Im happy that there are still people out their with working brains, stuff like this really keeps me from becoming a racist
>>70284639
Empire of Dust.
But pay the /pol/fags no mind, most of them just go hurr durr niggers are dumb n shit, we wuz aryans.
>>70284684
When he said that I couldn't help laughing since Ossie Davis played JFK in Bubba-Ho-Tep
>>70284751
Allow me to give you more hope.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TOvpzI7noKs
>>70283295
This guy, this is a man.
This is someone who truly understands.
>>70283894
>someone who is not of noble stock enter such hidden organisation at all.
why would an intelligence organisation recruit based on descent rather than skill
>>70284808
I tried getting into that guys stuff but his anarcho capitalist shit is dumb as hell.
>>70284756
>/pol/
There's that boogeyman excuse again.
>>70284503
bonus posting has resurrected him.
he can always sense when shit needs to be sorted out.
>>70283295
>april 2015
They didnt listen then, they wont listen now
>>70284392
I would rather see female bond fuck a girl on screen but I just don't give a fuck about the 007
>>70284896
>boogieman
More like the retarded cousin you have to bring over to your friend's house.
>>70283295
FUCKING DELETE THIS
>>70283397
Honestly I think Idris is the only dude around right now I could see playing Bond.
Idk, what other candidates really even are there?
>I’m in the Academy and people who project racial issues into movies have no business in our business.
The Black man shall rise and smash the nigger.
They're rising lads. Adawale and Obasi shall overcome and bitch slap Tyrone and Jamal.
>>70284942
Yes, boogeyman, you can't even so much as post a humorous (because it's true) edit of a known screencap without sensitive babies crying ''/pol/!''.
why do people get so excited about remakes/sequels?
>>70283295
dele this now
>>70285010
>not handling the bantz.
you seem mad stormfa- err, I mean Anon.
>>70284307
Thats because in England your skin colour is irrelevant, but your religion is the problem, which is why there is friction with Pakis.
>hurr durr subhuman niggers
British blacks are just that, British.
>>70284808
and just like that my racism flares up. there was a black guy that did speak out against black lives matter bullshit so its not going to tip me over.
>>70284851
watch a downton abbey and see how lord grantham covers up princes infidelity. loyalty born from self interest is a lot more reliable than anything else.generally no one is recruited for their skill, they are recruited and then trained
>>70284762
That wasn't JFK, that was a guy who thought he was JFK.
James Bond isn't real. He can literally be be played by anybody. Elba's the best person for the job.
>>70285082
>bantz
I don't think you even know what that means. You're like the americans in /int/ who embarass themselves all the time.
>>70285111
>citation needed
>Man has opinion!
Listen, you gotta diversify your james bonds nigga!
>>70284307
>t. never set foot in a "diverse" UK town/city
>>70285095
maybe because god is written into every part of national music from the national anthem to the more popular Rule Britannia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgd9nYqVz2s
>>70285156
Shut up, Calum. You're only here because my aunt is a cunt.
>>70285141
>Elba's the best person for the job.
Nah. There are better contenders. You're being swayed just like the rest of them.
>>70285141
reality does not work that way.James Bond is as real as most people in the history books, hell in some cases he is more real.
>>70285111
It could be either. In a world of ass-sucking mummies, I don't think its so hard to believe the story of dying his skin
>>70285111
>implying it wasn't Elvis and JFK for real
Imbecile. You missed the whole point of the movie.
>>70283540
He meant he is based as fuck.
AYO NIGGA DELETE THIS NIGGA
>>70283295
As a proponent for social justice, I think I know more than this brainwashed black man.
>>70285141
I guess nobody should have a problem with a white Shaft then, I mean, he's fictional, right? Who cares about character accuracy? Forced diversity matters more, also let's show that minorities can't come up with their own things and need to leech off what the white man has done.
>>70283397
Bond is not a black man. This isn't some nonsense Harry Potter race changing , this is fact and the authors own characterization of the character.
>>70284498
Why don't women like Pussy Galore exist anymore? That entire, body, face shape, and voice doesn't exist anymore
>>70285392
>Who cares about character accuracy?
Yeah, Shaft has been a staple of American culture ever since the founding fathers signed that Shaft must remain a black guy because.
>>70283427
How about a great black writer write a cool spy character of color and then that should be cool, right?
>>70285371
he has clearly internalized racism
>"Black men should stop trying to play roles created by whites. These roles are not written for black men. We have pens [to create] roles that no one else has established."
>>70283295
Based. He's one of the better villains in the series, tbqh. Had a solid henchman too.
>>70283295
I ALWAYS LIKED HIM IN MIDNIGHT RUN
ANYONE WHO SAYS "POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BE DAMNED" IS MY KINDA NIGGA
>>70284307
lmao no m8
>>70285189
this
>>70284403
He is literally a part of English/Scottish aristocracy, his House has an official coat of arms in-universe and it was confirmed in OHMSS. It has been references multiple times in the franchise, the fact that his family has a manor is a plot point in Skyfall. How many niggas you see walking around who are Scottish Lords?
>>70285468
I'm white and I'd be pissed if they recast Murtaugh as white in a Lethal Weapon reboot.
Characters are written they way they are for a reason. Changing them is just stupid.
>>70283295
right
>>70285468
No, it's the accuracy based on the original work, in this case, the 1970 shaft novel, which says Shaft is black. Much like how Fleming himself drew how Bond looked like, clearly a white man.
>>70284403
>what is so white about 007?
The fact that the guy who created him says he is.
>>70285392
Why not simply make a new franchise with Elba as a spy rather than having to slap him over James Bond?
>>70285392
>that sketch
Is it so hard to cast Ralph Fiennes?
don't see why Bond couldn't be black desu other than continuity but they've completely disregarded that anyway
>>70285732
people are more likely to go see a bond film than a random spy film with elba
it's less risk to make a sequel or another movie in a series than create a new character.
If we're going to have Black Bond shouldn't we have Paki Muslim Bond first? Would be more realistic and representative of the changing face of Britain desu
>>70285826
This pretty much. The fact is Hollywood is barely liberal. The people may think they are, but the powers that be don't give a damn about blacks or equality. They just realized their shitty reboots were losing them money so they needed a new "angle" to play. Social justice shit in movies is just that. If you're shit reboot has a black or a woman then suddenly its not just some shitty remake with no soul, its a brave move aginst the racist/sexist system.
Hollywood is so fucking transparent it's not funny. The fact so many people get played on both sides is pathetic.
I often see people ask what the definition of "based" is. Granted, it's a retarded meme, but it's catchy. Well fellas, Mr. Kotto is what based is.
>In an interview with the Big Issue, Kotto was asked for his views on the controversy surrounding Roger Moore’s recent suggestion that Bond should be “English-English”. The actor, who played Dr Kananga/Mr Big in 1973’s Live and Let Die, replied: “He cannot be black. Political correctness be damned, [we] have to stay with what is literally correct.”
Rush Limbaugh: Idris Elba can't be Bond because he's black
Read more
>Kotto, 75, added: “James Bond was established by Ian Fleming as a white character, played by white actors. Play 003 or 006, but you cannot be 007. A lot of people say we should be allowed to play everything. Don’t be ridiculous. If I say I want to play JFK, I should be laughed out of the room.
>“Black men should stop trying to play roles created by whites. These roles are not written for black men. We have pens [to create] roles that no one else has established.”
>Kotto also said criticism of the US Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences for failing to reward civil rights drama Selma at this year’s ceremony was misplaced. “They’re wrong,” he said, pointing out that he himself had not voted for the film. “I’m in the Academy and people who project racial issues into movies have no business in our business.”
Respect
>royal naval commander
>order of st michael and st george (pic related)
>lieutenant in the royal naval volunteer reserve
>based on men fleming met from the naval intelligence division in ww2
>scottish and swiss parents
>twice described in the books as looking like hoagy carmichael
>confirmed to look like >>70285392
>black
>>70285790
It's like rebooting Fresh Prince with wiggers.
>>70285782
he's too much of a villain.
>>70286011
I'd watch it.
>>70286011
living in shithole Philly in the '90s wasn't exclusive to blacks just like living in Queens wasn't exclusive to whites in the '60s with Spider-Man. Just create new characters.
>>70285332
Literally wasn't the point of the movie. It hints at Campbell being elvis, but it's all through his own memories which aren't reliable. And they give no reason to believe black jfk isn't just senile
>>70283894
I used to like Craig's brute goon persona but I agree, it'll eventually lead to flat out american monkey thug worship and lose any charm, precision, boldness or class.
It's a shame they couldn't play up the thugness bubbling underneath and only occasionally popping out. They made a thug pretending to be classy, like he's infiltrating or an outsider etc
>>70285782
Handsome but Not classically chiseled enough. Also he can only play suave menacing or goofy, not suave charm
>>70284503
>Kotto
>z-list
I think we need to talk about the Bonus situation.
>>70283540
I love this meme, true up and comer
>>70285732
then it would just be a movie with a black lead instead of proof of how not racist we all are
>>70286225
>but Not classically chiseled enough
because Roger Moore was so chiseled right?
>>70285392
>tfw no basil rathbond
>>70286309
roger chiseled af
>>70284503
>the least controversial opinion
What bizarro planet do you live on?
> but one that isn't pushed by the media
You make it sound like the media is something tiny and insignificant or something. Going against them IS controversial.
More like former FBI Agent Alonzo Mosley
>>70283701
Casino Royale was great.
Quantum of Solace was shit.
Skyfall was meh.
Spectre had 20 minutes of greatness and 120 minutes of shit.
Overall Craig had a similar run to Brosnan. Great first movie and disappointing or even terrible sequels.
>>70284307
Why do they commit the majority of crime then, anon? Despite being a minority? They're not fucking British faggot
>>70286452
>Quantum of Solace was shit.
DELET THIS
The first half is excellent.
Anyone have a webm of the Opera scene?
>>70283397
>Idris could play Bond because he's a great actor
>I've never read a book in my life before
Bond isn't a nigger, stop trying to score diversity points by praising your pet negroe
>>70286574
Here you go:
https://youtu.be/H8hAMhLoQUc?t=15s
>>70285782
He's literally M.
As to why, it's probably like Christopher Lee playing Saruman because he was too old for Gandalf.
>>70286452
Casino Royale was crap. I'm sorry but I'm just not a fan of Craig or his interpretation
The movie was so overrated I don't even remember what the plot was. I don't think I ever saw a Brosnan Bond movie to completion either, the whole cell phone in the back seat thing really killed it for me.
I think they should give Elba a shot, I'm not racist so I don't care if he's black. It's a strong movie market where everything sells so why not go for it
>>70285189
>>70285543
what part of Uk are you from mate?
If you lived in the Uk you would understand the statement. unless you want to use stats gotten from your little /pol/ threads about blacks doing majority of crime in the uk which is true but myopic. the slums and poor areas are where majority of the crimes happen by both white, shitskins and niggers. but these areas are dominated by niggers so of course a larger amount of criminals would be black. this is true in both coventry and London
>>70283701
Really wasn't that great. Better than the rest of Craig's movies, and better than Brosnan's last two or three, so it's remember fondly. Give it a rewatch
>>70283939
Will Smith spends millions trying to buy an austistic black teenager a career
>>70284963
Tom hardy or Hiddleston
>>70287564
His son?
>>70285392
Is Archer's design based on this sketch?
>>70287469
But the predominantly white, poor areas of the US don't have nearly the amount of crime rate as black ghettos.
>>70285732
People will just say they're ripping off James Bond without using the brand name.
>>70284403
>what's so white about 007
He's British therefore he's white. This isn't America where everyone can be American, Europe is a homeland, therefore you have to be ethnically British to actually be British or else you're just a foreigner with a passport
Spectre was so shit I'll be glad if elba just stays away
>>70283295
James Bond isn't even a fucking character. Action Man has more personality than the fucking cardboard cutout spy Bond is.
Name one character trait James Bond has that is noticeable throughout most of the films. Hell, can you even name one weakness Bond has beyond getting all the women he wants? No, you can't.
He's a shitty, uninteresting Mary Sue and all the movies are brainless action schlock.
>>70287757
Like the non-Anglo Queen?
>>70287727
There's succesful, non-Bond spy movies you know.
>>70287792
>Name one character trait James Bond has that is noticeable throughout most of the films
He's white.
>>70287792
James Bond's character traits are literally cliches created by James Bond
>>70284139
I want toBONEa girl
>>70284963
Alexis Denisof. He was in the running against Craig but wasn't chosen because he's American (though he spent years living overseas and his English accent is perfect, better than his American at this point). He's a little old at this point (50) but he'd be terrific.
>>70287649
ye dawg
>>70288236
oOOH.
>>70284307
Uh huh.
>More black people jailed in England and Wales proportionally than in US. New study finds seven times more black people per population are in prison – in the US number is just four times as many
https://archive.is/OoczY
>Twelve per cent of London’s men are black. But 54 per cent of the street crimes committed by men in London, along with 46 per cent of the knife crimes and more than half of the gun crimes, are thought by the Metropolitan Police to have been committed by black men.
https://archive.is/LZbUB
>British blacks are, well, just british
They're not indigenous to the British isles. They're not British.
Having a British citizenship doesn't mean you're British, just as if a Nigerian were to move to Japan and become a citizen they wouldn't be as Japanese as the indigenous population.
>>70287469
>If you lived in the Uk you would understand the statement.
Not everyone is as brainwashed as you, cuck.
> the slums and poor areas are where majority of the crimes happen by both white, shitskins and niggers. but these areas are dominated by niggers so of course a larger amount of criminals would be black. this is true in both coventry and London
This fucking excuse is used in the United States as well. It doesn't fit with the facts.
Educate yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVBJ5m3sGfk
>>70283295
Black man being based? I'm honestly impressed.
>>70288449
>immigrants in the picture are standing there and minding their own business
>veterans in the picture are raging over nothing
These political strips are hilarious.
>>70287805
India used to be ruled by the British, does that mean there's no native Indian population?
Fucking moron.
>>70287792
>Name one character trait James Bond has that is noticeable throughout most of the films.
Careless, dangerous, charming, witty, sarcastic, suit wearing, nigger hating
>>70288371
The only black guys in the UK that are garbage tier are the ones emulating Americas shitty uncouth materialistic coon culture.
We have more based Caribbean immigrants with their own culture rather than a cultureless slave race with nothing but thuggishness to call their own.
>>70288524
Raging over nothing? How about becoming a minority within their own homeland?
>>70288624
>White Britons to become minority by 2066
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8142176/White-Britons-to-become-minority-by-2066.html
>>70288582
>muh anecdotes
>>70283295
He's just saying that to get a bonus
>>70288582
That's not a counter argument.
>>70288729
Didn't say it was, I'm just saying how it is.
>>70284183
I mean if cultural appropriation worked both ways then yes, your logic makes sense but apparently it doesn't. I'm not sure why though;it doesnt really make sense.everytime I broach a discussion with an swj they, just start talking about oppression and power mostly in the hands of whites. I understand that but can't the argument just be that Idris playing a character literally made out to be privileged white man, (I never read the novels before so I didn't realize) is out of place the same way a white man trying to play a black slave or some black cultural icon is out of place?
I guess the problem lies in the fact that few people(of all races ), save internet nerds, rabbid fanboys, and neck beards, have actually known about the novels, let alone read them.
>>70285949
>If I say I want to play JFK, I should be laughed out of the room.
Pic related.
also
>Niggers in charge of understanding how greedy companies are
>Niggers in charge of handling money
>Niggers having opinions and being treated like humans
Full fucking retard
>>70288833
>Pic related.
Already addressed in the thread, that black guy only thought he was JFK.
>>70283397
He should play Bond but as Stringer Bell.
>>70283613
>chink, black or latino
Spotted the Canadian.
>>70287186
bait and a plebpost, no proper debating points, zero retort
impressive
>>70283600
I tried once. That dialect shit is fucking insufferable.
>>70288569
None of these make him an interesting character though. A main character has to have some weakness, some struggle that affects him as a person to deal with to make a story interesting. Bond never has any emotional or personal struggles and goes through absolutely no development beyond contemplating which woman he is going to put his dick in next.
Idris Elba had a great role in "Beasts of No Nation".
I hope to see him play similar roles in the future, rather than playing long established white characters.
>>70283600
Because it didn't come from the original novel, but rather derivative works.
>>70288799
> I understand that but can't the argument just be that Idris playing a character literally made out to be privileged white man, (I never read the novels before so I didn't realize) is out of place
It's fiction, a studio wouldn't give a fucking flying shit. It's about money. It's also 2016, a nigger can get proper treatment in a casino or opera house if he's wearing a suit.
>>70284950
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/shipp/lynchingyear.html
>the kkk killed
No, that's all recorded lynchings of blacks in American history.
Though the KKK did have a share in quite a few of them.
Lets not forget that during that period 1,297 whites were also lynched.
And believe it or not, most of those were lynched where people were just too angry to wait to see a legitimate criminal (usually rapist, murderer, arsonist or horse thief[which can bring a poor family to deaths door]) get justly sentenced, or possibly avoid it.
That was simply the nature of the world, especially the farther you get away from firmly established government authority.
Likely, the overwhelming majority deserved what they got.
And then of course there were the many dozens (at least) of incidence of white authority putting their lives between the mob and those where were to be lynched. Sometimes killing members of the mob to protect what may likely be a murderer.
It's not all cut and dry, black and white the way the standard outraged political activist type would paint it for you. Their goal is to sway you with maximum possible outrage, and if they have to color things their own way or misrepresent the situation, they will, because it's for the right cause, at least from their perspective.
>>70288896
>None of these make him an interesting character though.
What you think of those traits is not the point here.
>>70288974
>3,445
Also, that's less than the number of black-on-black murders every year since the 70's.
>>70288955
>a studio wouldn't give a fucking flying shit
Well it's not like that's the point here. We're just discussing what would be proper, integrity-wise.
James Bond can be black when Shaft can me Asian.
>>70283295
why was this thread deleted last time?
when there was a fucking thread about tipping restaurant service going on forever which has nothing to do with tv
mods are fags
>>70289030
And not a single argument has been made that stands up for why he shouldn't be bond.
I fucking hate idris and I hate most black people, but you're a fucking moron if you think he shouldn't be bond because he's black.
>>70287792
t. cynical nu-male
>>70289019
Blacks weren't systematically lynching other blacks because of "Go back to Africa, nigger"
>>70289179
The only argument that needs to be made is that James Bond was created as white character.
>>70283295
I don't think most people know that Bond is first and foremost, a spy.
Spies IRL don't look like Bond. They're regular, average looking people. Because you know, if you stand out as a spy, you tend to get executed or at least tortured.
So, back to Edba. How many black scots are there? Like, less than 5%?
Now, you're the bad guy in the bond movie, and you get word that he's coming to infiltrate your crime operation in, lets say, hong kong.
Are you really telling me it wouldn't be painfully easy to wait outside the airport and wait for maybe the FIVE black men in the entire country, one of which has a scottish accent?
For fucks sake, a black bond couldn't infiltrate a boy scout meeting without blowing his cover.
There is no rhyme or reason with SJWs, its pure emotion with no regard to logic.
>>70289230
Neither were whites.
>>70288974
>>70289019
>>70289230
>60% of the lynchings had their motives based on either homicide or rape, less than 2% due to an insult towards a white person.
http://www.chesnuttarchive.org/classroom/lynching_table_causes.html
>inb4 they din do nuffin!
>>70289286
Oh, suuuuuure, we're gonna believe those rape and homicide charges. I'm sure black people had fair trials back then too.
>>70289241
>The only argument that needs to be made is that James Bond was created as white character.
You're an idiot.
I guess Peter Pan should never be played by a woman on stage plays because it's a male character. Fucking fool. Thank god your opinions hold no weight.
>>70289179
The British aren't black.
Let's have this guy play a beloved Japanese fictional character. He was BORN in Japan, so he's just as Japanese as the rest of the population, right?
>>70289317
Do you have any evidence to the contrary besides your feelings?
>>70283397
I agree in theory, but the problem is that it will never not be political. I can't imagine a world in which a studio hires a black lead without even thinking about it. That's why I wouldn't want a black Bond, no disrespect to the individual actors.
>>70289282
Yes they were you stupid douche
How fucking dare you misappropriate my beautiful KKK
>>70289326
Japanese people inject foreigners in their ads and TV shows all the fucking time, m8.
>>70289317
This data comes from the Tuskegee Institute.
It's accurate. The reason why blacks were targeted for lynchings more than whites is that blacks are more criminal than whites.
Deal with it fuckboi.
>>70289230
Wow I'm a black guy and this is a very simplistic and honestly deluded system of beliefs you've expressed here on lynchings in the Jim Crow era South.
http://www.americanlynching.com/infamous-old.html
You should probably do some reading on the subject rather than continue to spread misinformation, it's interesting albeit harrowing.
>>70289326
Britain is a multicultural country, Japan is not. I don't see your point.
>>70288236
He looks more like Bond than Craig did.
>>70284403
>>70284307
>>70284143
>>70283939
Technically, nothing matters. A fictional,character is a fictional character.Tbh, I've seen modern takes on classic plays like Shakespeare's Julius Caesar where most of the senators were female: white and non white(Including Anthony)...It was an... interesting interpretation. Brutus and Caesar were still male ans white however.
It just depends because blacks are a minority and stuff. Taking away the few black characters there are and giving it to whites when there a plenty of WHITE CHARACTERS thwy have a to choose from is pretty fucked.
Perhaps a solution is to have more original black characters and I agree but as it stands, the ones already establish are so few compared to white ones. That's why there is a push to let blacks play white characters for diversity and not the other way around. If that doesn't make sense, then how do you suppose we foster the growth of new black characters to be played by great black actors without allowing these actors to cultivate their range with many different roles besides one noted stereotypes (which as I said, are all mostly white to date)?
>>70289286
>Only 40% of lynchings were completely innocent
OH WOW MY OPINION HAS BEEN REVERSED
>>70289322
Your opinions hold no weight either though, Bond will not be a black guy because the consumer does not want that.
>>70289383
>Wow I'm a black guy
>>70289322
A). Peter Pan has ALWAYS been played by a woman.
B). The woman cast as Peter Pan is playing a boy not a woman. Is Idris Elba playing a white man?
You're an autistic idiot with no grasp of logic.
>>70284437
muh gravel
>>70287469
>about blacks doing majority of crime in the uk which is true but myopic
seriously how do you accept that and move on back to stay in your safespace?
I remember in my leftist days I'd go "yeah but poverty" or whatever. But a lot of you people feel like you just want to feel like you got the upper hand. No matter what, you're in power, you're the guilty one, you made this. You don't want egg in your face and admit the nigger got one one you. Like you absolutely don't want to feel like blacks won one round. You need to feel in charge and they're retarded savage children.
>>70289342
>>70289375
>motives based on
Then again, you'd probably go all white knight if a guy stared at a white woman too.
Affirmative action is retarded.
>>70289383
Shut up nigger, you'll never be white. Also the KKK killed niggers due to them being niggers, you fucking retarded nigger.
>>70289424
Ok, continue to hang yourself spouting historical inaccuracies rather than delving the least bit into a subject that you assert to have an interest in.
>>70289356
The KKK as a boogyman is a social justice meme.
>>70289448
>A). Peter Pan has ALWAYS been played by a woman.
Dang, trans people back then were serious.
>>70283841
>it makes sense, why try to shoehorn black people into roles that are just fairy tales and will make no sense
You could say the same thing about white people and pretty much ever far-future sci fi film ever created.
>>70283845
It would be interesting to see.
>>70289366
Congratulations on completely missing my point.
>Let's have this guy play a beloved Japanese fictional character.
Do I really have to spell it out to you what I mean?
>>70289386
That doesn't change the fact that the British people exist beyond mere citizenship.
When the character was created the phrase "white British" would have been seen as redundant.
And Britain didn't become "multicultural" by choice.
>This briefing provides an overview of attitudes toward immigration in Britain. The discussion focuses on two basic questions: whether or not people favour or oppose immigration to the UK, and how many see it as one of the most important issues facing the country.
>Approximately ¾ of British people favour reducing immigration, on most recent surveys and polls.
>Large majorities in Britain have been opposed to immigration since at least the 1960s.
https://web.archive.org/web/20141216212846/http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/uk-public-opinion-toward-immigration-overall-attitudes-and-level-concern
>>70289403
>technically nothing matter
Shove your post-modern deconstructivism and shove it up your cucked ass.
>>70289406
Who said that?
>>70289421
>Your opinions hold no weight either though,
Embarrassing. I'm not trying to impede anything, don't try to reverse the charge you stupid fag. You're not clever enough.
>Bond will not be a black guy because the consumer does not want that.
You have absolutely no idea what the consumer wants, man sitting behind a computer, claiming to know what the consumer wants.
>>70289489
That's odd given that many white men were lynched in the South for similar crimes, almost all of them poor! It's almost as if lynching was a form of vigilante justice that predated slavery in the United States rather than a specific action done solely to the detriment of black people.
Were many blacks unjustly lynched? Probably, but many men are sentenced to death and eventually executed in the modern day despite not having committed any crime.
>>70283295
bad goyim, perhaps you should watch roots to see how evil those nasty whites are
>>70289532
>he thinks his inane posting matters
Unless you're out there demanding to be respected as a white man and having 20 white kids nothing you say here matters at all.
>>70283925
goat movie
>>70289548
I'm not the guy you originally responded to, but no one wants a black Bond. Fans were highly critical of the blonde white one we just had, as a result there will never be a black Bond.
You can cap this post if you'd like as a reminder when Bond is cast.
>>70289448
>A). Peter Pan has ALWAYS been played by a woman.
>B). The woman cast as Peter Pan is playing a boy not a woman. Is Idris Elba playing a white man?
You are fucking babbling
>>70289592
>but no one wants a black Bond.
Wrong. A shit load of people want Idris. That's what the entire thread is about,.
How do you argue with someone who denies reality?
>>70289592
>but no one wants a black Bond
A mind reader capable of reading seven billions minds at once. Amazing.
>>70289634
A shit load of people on reddit.
This maymay was literally started on reddit.
>>70283295
Yeah fuck black people and colored people in general right brah? I mean who gives a shit if white people play egyptians. That's just those ignorant fags not understanding that we're just that much superior brah. Hell yeah.
WHITE POWER
>>70289634
well yes, your mom wants a black bond, like she wants a black boyfriend. no one is disputing that. not everyone has a cuck fetish and wants their mom to take black cock for them to jerk off to though, you faggot
>>70289634
No one wants Idris Elba as Bond, they want to prove how progressive they are by supporting the decision to cast a black person who has no business in a particular role for the sake of being diverse.
Were Idris ever casted as Bond the film would fail
>>70283600
Because the phrase comes from minstrel shows which, technically, adapted the book, but turned Tom into a happy-in-slavery man who did what whites wanted.
>>70289508
Cherry-picking an aberration does not disprove the norm. The first ever staging of Peter Pan had a woman cast in the role. It is traditional for Peter Pan to be played by a woman and the fact remains that the woman is still playing a boy character and not a woman.
Transforming a white character into a black character is not equivalent. Perhaps you could make the case that a highly diluted mulatto could play a white James Bond but a black actor playing a black James Bond is an entirely different scenario.
>>70289664
You should hang yourself for trying to defend your worthless point with such an embarrassing statement. I've never been more convinced in my life that Bond should be played by Idris.
>>70283295
Who the fuck cares about irrelevant shit like this? I may live in a small city in Georgia but I really doubt anyone, anywhere thinks a black bond is absolutely needed. Is this just a couple of people on the internet complaining about this "issue'
>>70288974
>it's fine when white people kill other people! it's just how the world works!
>>70289683
>using "WE WAS KANGZ" unironically
>>70283793
Yeah but he's mostly looked at as a joke or people say they like him ironically.
A serious reboot of John Shaft would just be met with laughter.
>>70289723
It's a fact though.
You're a pathetic cuckold.
>>70289179
This is not an argument. Merely a personal opinion.
Bond is and should be portrayed by a stylish, suave British middle-age man. James Bond and the assorted tropes and cliches that accompany the name invoke the image of a fading Brittish Empire, where a lone anglo defends and uphold his nations values and interests in exotic locations against foreign villainy.
I basically feel like Bond is a modern version of those old British adventurers that traveled the world during the imperial times and never stopped being obnoxiously brittisk. Bond might wear a suit instead of a pith helmet but I feel that he represent the same spirit. Sadly I cannot imagine a black man mantling the role of Bond and still invoke the same archetype as a white Bond would.
Bond is a white man in a (mostly colored) exotic world and him being black reminds me that instead of Britain coming to the world, the world came to Britain.
>>70289573
>s-shut up goy it's 2016!
Are you nervous?
You should be.
>>70289683
Well if you have to beg white people to provide you with roles in film and media how are they not superior?
White people have never been in a position in which they had to grovel to blacks for an employment opportunity. Yet blacks have been in a western nations for hundreds of year and not made any progress at acquiring positions in which they can employ other blacks. Funny
>>70289713
>Cherry-picking
How could I possibly cherry-pick the most famous portrayal of Peter Pan on screen?
>>70289683
bahaha how butthurt is this nigger
>>70289732
But the concept of a black bond got a lot of upvotes on reddit!
>>70289761
I'm very excited trans people will finally get recognized and gender neutral restrooms will be a thing, yes.
Thanks, Trump. :)
>>70289753
Even if it was true, it's the worst point I've ever heard in my entire life.
>>70289750
There already was a reboot of Shaft, with Sam Jackson. It was alright.
>>70283718
How can Craig be Bond when he wasn't even in the best Bond movie?
[spoilers]Tommorow Never Dies[/spoilers]
>>70289778
>the most famous portrayal of Peter Pan on screen
That's not Robin Williams....
>>70289749
I'm agreeing with you brah. Fuck black people. I mean they're just whining. If a black person wrote a strong black serious role to kick off a franchise hollywood would finance that shit in a heartbeat. They'd finance several of them these days right brah? Lazy ass black people.
CAUCASIANS UNITE
>>70289823
You want Bond to be played by a nigger.
No one cares about your opinion.
>>70284139
I want to bond with a girl;_;
>>70289758
And he can be played by a black man
You see how easily your statement falls apart?
>>70289840
Exactly. No one gave a shit because even if white people scream 'why don't they just make their own thing' no one will go see it. So they ask to be put into established franchises to make it normal to see blacks in lead roles. But let's be real. You just don't like black people.
>>70289854
>Someone else should have to finance black peoples movies
Weird, Tyler Perry and Robert Townsend are black filmmakers who don't make excuses such as that/beg whites for money and have made successful films.
Why is everything blacks can do meant to be contingent upon white people's support?
>>70289823
>haha you should kill yourself for speaking your mind my man ;)
/tv/, a board for discussion.
>>70289846
>Peter Pan played by a middle age adult
WHOA FUCK OFF FEMINISTS
PETER PAN'S CHARACTER CAN'T BE EXPERIMENTED WITH
EVEN THOUGH FICTIONAL CHARACTERS HAVE AND WILL BE CHANGED, MORPHED AND MERGED WITH OTHERS FOR STORYTELLING PURPOSES
>>70289875
You're really bad at this.
>>70288974
Those numbers seem really small all around. I refuse to believe that the list covers all of America.
>>70289903
You realize no one is going to see the black lead either way, very few black people have the capability of carrying a franchise. Replacing popular white roles with blacks doesn't lead to success, see the latest Fantastic Four flick
Meanwhile Vin Diesel's films are making billions because he doesn't resemble a black person.
>>70289908
>he thinks white people don't beg for studio money all the time
If anything, I've learned the industry is full of cucks.
>>70289903
>But let's be real. You just don't like black people.
and shoving them down his throat won't make him suddenly do so.
Blacks are a fucking minority. They should be thankful they get cast in American movies at all.
>>70289966
No one is forcing him or you to watch movies with black people.
You're not a child, you can decide what kind of media you consume on a daily basis.
>>70289961
>he has the expectation whites should treat blacks as well as they treat other whites
Never going to happen, and why should it?
>>70289993
Indeed, and as a Bond fan he's deciding with his wallet he'll only support a guy who actually looks like James Bond.
>>70289921
>Peter Pan played by a middle age adult
>PETER PAN'S CHARACTER CAN'T BE EXPERIMENTED WITH
>EVEN THOUGH FICTIONAL CHARACTERS HAVE AND WILL BE CHANGED, MORPHED AND MERGED WITH OTHERS FOR STORYTELLING PURPOSES
It amazes me that you can't see how a boy turning into a man is a more logical plot progression than a white man turning into a black man.
As a Mexican-American why do black people get much more TV and movie exposure if there is a higher Mexican population in America? You never see people pushing white characters to be played by a Mexican.
>>70283925
That movie was so bad though
>>70289935
Perhaps you have false impression of the extent of lynchings resulting from media sensationalism?
>>70290000
>>he has the expectation whites should treat blacks as well as they treat other whites
Never even implied that, racist friend.
>>70290038
Because other minorities just get on with it and don't rely nearly so much on using transgressions suffered by their ancestors to justify their own failures.
>>70290061
Pretty much this
>watching the Butler
>Forest Whitakker's character runs from a 1920s slave plantation (???) to freedom up north
>sees not one but several lynched bodies of blacks lining the trees
Was it lost on the film makers that blacks would typically be cut down and their flesh multilated to provide souvenirs for participants and onlookers?
Hollywood paints the most unrealistic picture of the Jim Crow era South
>>70290030
>more logical plot progression
You mean experimentation through character change and evolution? You know what I mean? What I posted? Your brain might understand what I'm talking about if you pay enough attention.
>>70290073
You absolutely did, you stated blacks should be able to acquire funding via white production companies for their projects. Why are they at all entitled to that?
Blacks are a stagnate minority group, why would anyone take a risk on a black film franchise when most of them at best result in cult followings? (Blank Man, Friday, House Party)
>>70290149
Not him but how does a white guy progress into a black guy? It makes sense that Peter Pan grows into an adult man
Bond is white, the films aren't Face-Off, there's no reason for an intelligent spy to become a black man who is anything but.
>>70290191
>you stated blacks should be able to acquire funding via
You're making up an awful lot of things, /pol/.
Care to direct me to this imaginary post I must've submitted in my sleep?
>>70290149
So you're actually claiming that a white Scottish man magically becoming a black man is a logical and organic progression for a character in the same way that a boy becoming a man is?
Am I getting that right?
>>70283397
Idris Elba is a very good actor, I like seeing him get work and I hope he's around for a long while. The problem though is that Bond is not black. He's a white British character. Bond can never be black because because British and white go hand in hand. It's both an ethnicity and a nationality. If you're only one or the other, you can never be British in the truest sense of the word, and to take a quintessentially British icon and cast him as a black person is just wrong.
>>70290435
>The problem though is that Bond is not black.
And the problem with your problem is that it's all pretend for real money, so shut up faggot.
>>70290494
you seem triggered lad
>>70290237
>Bond is white
He's also fake and not real you small little boy
Honestly, I don't see why him being black is really a problem if we're sticking in a modern time period. I don't think race or ethnicity has really been an important or even relevant part of his character.
This bullshit about him being gay or a woman has got to go though. Being a womanizer and fucking a new girl every movie is a prominent part of his character and he's a male icon. It wouldn't make any sense.
>>70290535
Good rebuttal silly Sam
>>7029
A black person will never be English. Ever. The same way a white person can never be nigerian.
Why do you want a white character to be black so much anyway? That's called cultural appropriation bro.
>>70290645
>Why do you want a white character to be black so much anyway? That's called cultural appropriation bro.
YEAH NIGGERS STAY IN THEIR OWN ROLES
>>70289230
>3445 lynchings of blacks in recorded American history according to the leading authority on black history in America, curated by well educated black Americans, many with a socio-political axe to grind against whitey
>lower than the number of black on black murders in any given year since before your parents were born, and likely since the year following the end of the civil war
>this is somehow a systematic extermination of a people who started with 400,000 and have multiplied to upwards of 40 million
I can see you're well versed in African American history.
>>70290645
this. how can people be so retarded
>>70290645
>That's called cultural appropriation bro.
>feminist dogma when I don't like it, edgy comeback when I do :)
You must a teenager if your mind can only reach these heights.
>>70290776
3000 lynchings for being black is still bad, anon.
>>70290785
You just want to destroy one of the last symbols of white masculinity but are too much of a pussy to admit it.
>>70290776
>THERES BEEN MORE CAR ACCIDENTS THAN LYNCHINGS SO LYNCHINGS WERENT THAT BAD
You should hang yourself from a tree
>>70290776
>9/11 wasn't that bad because more people died in WWII
What is wrong with you?
>>70290845
Maybe if you weren't so obsessed with the fictional media you've been conditioned to consume in order to justify your race AND your masculinity you wouldn't be so angry about it.
>>70290809
They weren't lynched for being black though.
>>70291028
>Lynching, the practice of killing, usually by hanging, by extrajudicial mob action, occurred in the United States chiefly from the late 19th century through the 1960s. Lynchings took place most frequently against African American men and women
How does it feel to be literally, literally, revising history in order to support your hatred of black people?
>>70283295
Bond is British.
Ethnically British people are as pale as jellyfish. And equally globular.
A black Bond makes no literal sense.
And extreme literalism is important to my autism.
>>70289230
Don't misjudge my statements regarding recorded American history as advocating lynching or violence against anyone, especially because of the uncontrollable circumstances of their birth.
Though at the same time, I wouldn't have children with someone who is black because I don't think it would be giving my children their best possible start to life. And yes, because they would likely possess a lesser intellectual potential that may limit their possibilities regardless of my efforts and the fact that the popular culture among those who might insist they identify as black is a quicksand pit waiting to swallow up everyone who comes near.
>>70289317
A lynching is the opposite of a 'fair trial' by our historical or current standards of such.
But many of those people got what was coming to them.
That doesn't make it okay or the right thing.
But it's blown drastically out of proportion to what it was.
>>70289466
The 3 black guys next door to me probably have 2-3 white girlfriends apiece and there are new ones every other day.
Considering their character, it's kind of sad.
But that doesn't rile me up any more than any other person who has given up on any potential for a decent life.
If they were nice guys instead of gangster-esque drug dealers, I would feel better for all involved, but I still wouldn't advocate for it.
Don't worry bro, I won't give you hard time for your white girlfriend no matter my estimation of you as a man or of her as a judge of what is best for her or her future children.
We're all free men.
>>70291128
See:
>>70289286
>>70288974
Idiot.
>>70283540
He felt that if he could have been a more effective villain the movie could have made more money and his bonus cheque would have been larger.
>>70283613
Craig, Lazenby and Connery were all thuggish boombahs.
Pierce was best Bond in worst movies.
>>70291218
You should cut your hands off for being so stupid. Only 40% of lynchings were perpetrated against black people who were totally innocent? WOW HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO SILLY
>>70289935
There might be people who have disappeared that were unaccounted for, just as there are hundreds of missing people in the US every year.
Especially in areas with swamps.
People in the south of all colors are known for disposing of bodies where nature will take care of the evidence.
We highlight the white on black violence of our history and forget that most violence takes place within our own social spheres that are much more often than not, racially homogenous.
>>70283691
It's why Hiddleston might be the single best casting suggestion in Bond history.
>>70291283
>Only 40% of lynchings were perpetrated against black people who were totally innocent?
Where the fuck are you getting this from?
>>70291314
The posts quoted in the post I quoted, you illiterate shit.
>>70290956
Bond is a white character I'm sorry this angers you so much.
>>70283793
I know the Jackson one wasn't a hit, and Jackson didn't really fit the role, but with all this Muh Diversity shit lately why AREN'T we seeing some more Shaft or Foxie Brown?
>>70291348
>Bond is a white character I'm sorry this angers you so much.
And he can be played by a black person I'm sorry this angers you
>>70291347
How about you read the fucking links instead.
No where does it state that 40% of all lynching victims were innocent blacks.
>>70291382
This is true. But it would be stupid.
Just like having a cat play Lassie.
>copyrighted
>do not steal this idea
>>70291382
How can a white character be played by a black man? Blacks are not white. Should Toby from roots be played by a white man? Stop appropriating white culture.
>>70291385
>>60% of the lynchings had their motives based on either homicide or rape, less than 2% due to an insult towards a white person.
And no, I don't care to read the links.
>>70289921
>FOR STORYTELLING PURPOSES
Nice try.
>>70291453
And you call me illiterate?
That doesn't state that 40% of lynchings victims were innocent blacks.
Congratulations on being so stupid.
>>70291449
>How can a white character be played by a black man?
Well, you cast the black guy, then you film him, and then you release the movie. I'm not positive but I'm pretty sure this works.
>>70289843
Top tier taste
>>70291528
No.
>>70291506
I couldn't care less
>>70291528
This.
Todd Solondz had an obese middle aged black woman play an 11 year old Jewish girl.
No one complained then.
>>70291561
Then why are you arguing the point, faggot?
You were just pretending to be retarded, right?
>>70291585
You're getting extremely upset that my point isn't dependent on a statistic being accurate
>>70290956
>mocking anon for caring about his culture
Sorry we can't all be rootless cosmopolitans like you brah.
>>70291641
Your criticism is completely baseless.
>>70291664
>If a black actor plays James Bond in the 2019 hit, MoonVest, I lose my culture
>>70288236
Wesley as Bond? SPLOOSH.
>>70291713
Opinion
>>70291721
Why should bond be black? Is there a legitimate reason? Nope.
>>70290809
I think you missed my original post.
But sure, every person wrongly put down is an injustice.
But sometimes hundreds of such injustices take place in a single day in this country (usually Fridays and Saturdays when they numbers are that high).
There were 42 shootings in Chicago this weekend.
That's one city, over the course of 2 days.
It likely won't be the worst 2 days of the year by years' end.
There hasn't been a lynching since 62'.
That was Emit Til, and almost every American knows he who was and what a travesty it was.
That same year, two white men were lynched.
Do you know their names?
Does anyone you know?
In the preceding 17 years to 62', there were 13 black men lynched. Less than the number that have died in Chicago and several other major us cities in just gang related violence in a single day on certain given days of the year.
Do you know anyone who is related to someone who was lynched?
Unlikely.
Do you know someone who is related within a single step of consanguinity to someone who was murdered by someone who looked like them racially? If you're white, probably.
If you're black, it's an almost certainty.
>>70290846
>angry about lynching that happened before his parents were born
>advocates I experience that type of death with no sense of irony
I don't think I'm keen on your sense of justice or your feelings regarding it.
>>70290895
>trivializing 9/11 to make a bad point
I could play silly semantic games with you all day because you're not bitching about how many people died of 'x' or because of 'y' today.
And how that means you don't care about them or fixing what caused it.
This just in: No lynchings in your life time.
And I think that's pretty damn good progress considering what kind of world it was just a few generations ago.
Or considering what kind of world over half of the humans on Earth still live in.
Be thankful to be living here.
AYO IMA ORDER SOME JENKEM. SHAKEN NOT STIRRED N SHEEIT!
WE WUZ SECRET AGENTS!
>>70291773
>Why should bond be black?
Because a lot of people want to see Idris in that role and it's a fake thing that's not very important
>>70291208
>I wouldn't have children with someone who is black because I don't think it would be giving my children their best possible start to life
Very forward thinking of you
>>70291848
Not a legit reason. Sorry.
>>70291812
You are fucking babbling. You're actually getting angry that people aren't respecting 9/11 and avoiding using it in an argument, and that people are using lynching to insult you as if it's off limits. You're a fool. You aren't worth arguing with past this point. I just want you to know that.
>>70291923
Yeah, I can't believe that in 2016 people still think that way!
I'm so triggered!
>>70291848
Then he is no longer bond. Why not cast him in a new franchise ?
>>70286438
B A S E D
A L O N Z O
"JAMES BOND SHOULD BE WHITE, POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BE DAMNED" -ALONZO MOSELY FBI
>>70291925
Yes it is, sorry anon.
Why is there a black Spider-Man? I guess there's no good reason for him to be black, but in order to salvage you're embarrassingly terrible guy feeling from which you refuse to budge, you will now think up reasons why Spider-Man can be black, but not bond. Oof. You're fucking awful at this. Holy fuck.
>>70291848
>a lot of people want to see Idris in that role
I highly doubt "a lot" of people want to see Idris as Bond.
I'll be generous and say maybe 10,000 people in the world want to see him as Bond, and out of those 10,000 people, 9,500 of them are people who don't give a shit about Bond.
They've seen maybe one Bond movie and just jumped on the bandwagon to try to seem progressive.
>>70292000
>He is no longer bond
Yes he would
>>70292038
Spiderman being black now is an entirely new character. He's no longer Peter Parker.
If bond is played by a black man hes no longer bond. Bond is a white man by definition.
Sorry.
>Not trusting in the Cavill
Shame on you. All of you.
>>70292078
>I highly doubt "a lot" of people want to see Idris as Bond.
You clearly haven't heard of Reddit's PC desires.
Protip: People who have opinions other than you exist
>>70291923
That's one of man's greatest assets.
The ability to conceive of the future, not just for himself, but for his family and even the greater group to which he belongs.
I consider the repercussions of my actions.
I wouldn't have children with a woman unless I felt she was on my intellectual level.
Which I think I might have found recently.
And I can't wait to make beautiful blonde haired, blue eyed, high cheek boned, high IQ babies with her that have the capacity be successful in whatever they go after, to take part in the cutting edge of scientific and technological innovation if that is the path they choose.
I can't tell other people what to do with their lives, even though I may lament their wasted potential, but I can make the best choices for my own.
>>70292126
>If bond is played by a black man hes no longer bond. Bond is a white man by definition.
And he could quite easily be played by a black man, sorry.
>>70292155
>People who have opinions other than you exist
I know and i acknowledged them, but like i said it's not a lot of people who want Idris as Bond.
I've never been to reddit so i know nothing of their desires.
>>70292211
>>>70292155 #
>but like i said it's not a lot of people who want Idris as Bond.
Let's not pretend you didn't make up that number. I think we're both smarter than that.
>>70292204
No. Because black men are not white.
>>70292204
>, sorry.
THIS IS PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE TUMBLRSPEAK
JAMES BOND IS WHITE, JUST LIKE THE GHOSTBUSTERS ARE MEN
2016 PC LIBERAL AGENDA STAY THE FUCK OUT OF EXISTING FRANCHISES, CULTURAL PARASITES
>>70291948
>you're babbling
I might have been verbose, but I tend to get more so as the day grows long.
>you're actually getting angry
I think you're projecting. Odd considering if that was your post in regards to 9/11 that it was heavily implied that it was a travesty that I wasn't taking seriously enough despite never having mentioned, or even alluded to it.
>you're a fool
A thing is not so simply because you state it as such.
Your previous remarks were equally off base.
>you aren't arguing past this point
>that's the last word, because I said so
see also:
>tag, no tag backs! that's the rules because I make the rules
You're kind of a doofus, but I'm sure you sound very reasonable inside your own head.
>>70292285
Doesn't matter.
>>70292204
So a white character can be played by a black man and still be white?
How would they acknowledge his skin color?
Will the plot will be that the villains burned the shit out of him and now he has to fit into british high society despite looking black?
Maybe he'll wear pancake makeup to try and fit in?
>>70283894
>always gentleman first
You've never read a bond novel have you
JB originally was nothing more than a fucking hitman originally. He's a gun for hire in the books, and in this sense Craig's bond is actually the most accurate.
HOWEVER
The character has become associated with the suave gentleman spy, and future bonds should be like that. Elba could do it well, and so could others.
>>70292354
But it does. If a white guy plays shaft it's no longer shaft. Same for bond.
Do all Bond films take place in the same continuity?
>>70292327
It's too bad you typed all that and I didn't read it. Doesn't that mean I'm stupid? Doesn't that prove you right that I don't care? Only a dumb person wouldn't read your horseshit, right? Right? Am I right?
>>70292443
(you)
>>70292393
>Idris Elba
>Playing James Bond
>NNNNGHUH BUT ITS NOT BOND
You're a crybaby anon.
>>70292483
It's not. Bond cant be black.
>>70292483
>Bond is white
>Idris is black
>Blacks can't play white characters
>NNNNGHUH BUT SKIN COLOR DOESN'T MATTER
You're a nigger lover anon.
>>70284851
MI5 and 6 (now the Security Service and the Secret Intelligence Service respectively) have for almost their entire history recruited from the upper class predominantly. I have a friend at Cambridge uni who has told me of at least one lecture given by a former int officer and alumni. They court and groom undergrads, typically those on political science or language degrees. More often during the cold war, but even still nowadays.
5 even has a page on their website saying "no, we hire people from all backgrounds, honestly" because previously they hardly did. And it's true they're more diverse now, 6 too. But the old boy network is strong, and connection to Oxbridge, and Eton, and to influential people beyond the institutions, are really useful.
>>70292361
Idris is literally already high society in Britain.
This is so fucking old
>>70292563
But he's not actually British is he.
>>70285214
Such as? Honest question. I can only think of tom hardy who might be alright. Unless we're talking girl bonds.
>>70291721
Yes that is correct.
James Bond is an ethnic British cultural artifact.
Transforming it into anything other than that is a destruction of British culture as James Bond no longer belongs to Britain and now belongs to everyone to warp and twist as they see fit.
>>70292538
>>70292528
>Movie comes out
>RRRRRRUUUUGH CANT YOU PEOPLE SEE THIS ISNT ACTUALLY JAMES BOND
>NIGGER LOVERS
>NIGGER LOVERS EVERYWHERE
Let me ruin both of you by saying it's harder to stop something than it is to do something.
>>70292563
Kek, no he isn't. He's also not an actual brit (not white)
>>70292680
What a terrible point. People see 007 and think suave spy, let a nigger play pretend you butt hurt faggot.
>>70292483
REPLACING ONE THING WITH ANOTHER IS AN ACT OF CULTURAL WARFARE
BUT SELF HATING KUCKS WOULD LOVE IT, RIGHT KUCK?
JAMES BOND IS AN ICONIC AND WELL DEFINED CHARACTER WHO IS A WHITE MALE, B-BUT WE CANT HAVE THAT IN 2016!
THEY CREATED THE CHARACTER LUTHER FOR IDRIS ELBA AND HE PLAYED IT WELL, LET THEM MAKE A LUTHER MOVIE, NOT ERASE JAMES BOND FROM HISTORY BECAUSE OF KUCK GUILT
>>70292686
Bond literally cannot be black. I'm so sorry this hurts you so much.
>>70292748
>What a terrible point. People see 007 and think suave spy, let a nigger play pretend you butt hurt faggot.
How about Niggers make their own spy movie and stop stealing white stuff?
>>70292711
He goes to Britain, he's high in the society
Shh
>>70292563
No, Idris Elba is not "already high society in Britain".
Just because some one has a British accent does not make them high society.
>>70292803
>he's high in the society
Wew lad, you fucking wish he was.
>>70292803
Not really. He'd be considered wealthy but not anywhere near high society.
>>70292840
>A list actors not high society
Well you got me there anon
>>70292748
Just because you don't care about British culture doesn't mean no one does my rootless friend.
:^)
>>70292800
Studios cannot fathom the idea of creating new IPs
>>70292877
Do you have any concept of how the British class system works?
>>70292877
Actors are seen as basically high class whores by wealthy old people.
>>70292890
Yeah, if this Londoner plays a white guy, I won't be able to ask girls out on a date
>>70285996
Would you like to know how ian Fleming came up with bond in the first place? It's a cool story.
Basically, one of the only advantages Britain had when we were on the brink of being invaded by the Germans was intelligence. Our boffins were able to decipher and read enigma-encoded German traffic. But at one point we were struggling with German navy codes. What we needed was a copy of a navy codebook, that would be found on a German ship. The German sailors were trained to destroy all documents if they were threatened with capture, so we needed a way to take a ship by surprise.
Fleming was a young royal navy officer then I think, and not in intelligence at all. Nevertheless, he wrote a letter to relevant command with his idea. It ran thus:
>fix up a captured German bomber so it's airworthy
>crew it with a particularly tough German speaking flight crew
>have it take off following a German bombing raid back to Germany
>as it passes over the channel have the crew call in a distress signal (in German of course) claiming engine failure, and have them crash the bomber in the ocean
>when a German rescue ship arrives, have the flight crew ambush the Germans, kill them all and sail the ship back to Britain, complete with all its vital documents
It's brilliant really. As I recall it was given the go ahead, a crew was put together and preparations were made, but it was delayed due to inclement weather and then shelved permanently.
Anyway, it was Fleming's scheme, and it's easy to see how he went on to create the superspy bond.
>>70293136
Now that is some bad ass cloak and fucking dagger.
Perfidious Albion forever!
>>70287186
For god's sake go watch GoldenEye. Remote control car by phone in the back seat was tomorrow never dies I think, it's wank forget it. GoldenEye is legit though, so legit that my phone fucking autocorrect the e in eye to a capital letter.
>>70283605
Kek
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