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Do you think Kill Bill is underrated by critics?
Is lack of substance negative when the style is outstanding?
If it came out today the Critics would love it.
>>70143624
>Do you think Kill Bill is underrated by critics?
Yes, it was ambitious and it worked. Besides combining a lot of influences and styles it had a lot of heart at the core. The action packed first volume built up to the second's emotional stuff.
The last hour of Volume 1 was fantastic editing in all departments; I think its up there with Raging Bull
Shame Menke's gone
I loved vol. 1. Vol. 2 would have been fairly poor if not for Bill. I know people try to say they're one single film but both feel vastly different in both tone and style. I'd like to see the cut that has them released as one.
I remember the first one being huge when it first came out. Then the hype had fizzed out by the time the second was released.
I think it's his most original movie, and the last one where he didn't try hard to be what his fans wanted him to.
Critics really liked both of them, 85% & 84% on Rotten Tomatoes.
>>70143624
Just a bad remake.
>>70144409
WOW SHOES IN SNOW!!
FUCKNG HACK I KNEW IT!!!!!!!??
>>70143624
Critics gave it favorable reviews you fucking dumbshit moron.
>>70144409
It's called an homage ya dummy
>>70145963
how fucking rude dude not even OP but i read your text and took it to heart maybe be more mindful of what you post on this webzone, ok?!
i love you though my man i really do, take it to heart. best wishes from me to you.
>>70145986
When a whole movie is born of these 'homages' it's just flat out stealing because you're an uncreative fuck.
>>70144409
Both films are great.
>>70146102
>basically the whole film is "homages"
Sure thing Quentin, just fuck off back to a foot thread already you hack fuckwit.
Whoops,
>>70146160
meant for
>>70145986
>>70143624
The style is of uneven and often excessively derivative quality throughout, and Vol. 2 doesn't live up to the promise of Vol. 1's excellent ending.
It's too disjointed to be a masterpiece but there are multiple scenes (all in the last half of Vol. 1) that I would consider to be some of the best in 00s American filmmaking.
Too derivative, just like everything else he makes
Will "The whole bloody affair" version ever be released?
I know it exists but it never got a wide release
>>70143624
You know what I'm realizing now about this movie? Uma is a believable strong female protag. She felt human yet really strong without being some kind of Mary Sue. Like she earned everything she had in the movie. I don't understand why this is so hard these days.
>>70146743
No idea why they don't do this anymore.
>>70146160
I know how you feel my nigger
>>70145963
I was talking about the critics who dismissed the film for complete style as if it had little value. Its a weak argument
>>70143624
It should only be judged by what it was trying to do.
It wasn't trying to have whatever your definition of "substance" is.
It was trying to be cool, fantastical, and stylish. It succeeded.
>>70143624
It's thoroughly devoured by the plebs, just like Tarantino intended.
>>70146102
Except he's not borrowing from the same movie. What is kill bill a remake of?
>>70143624
>Is lack of substance negative when the style is outstanding?
yeah, but that doesnt mean every movie has to have substance, it still can be good, very good even but you can have both without making compromises so some substance could have elevated it even further
personally i think its Tarantino's best written story.
It's one of my favorite action movies.
It pays credit to eastern action movies without looking fully stupid. It has great acting even from minor characters and the fighting choreography is top notch
Uma vs Gogo and then the 88 goons looked great
Vol 2 isn't as good as 1 but it's still pretty good but it's more story based hen pure fighting
The style isn't outstanding. It's gaudy and nothing more than a pastiche if shit everyone has already seen literally a hundred times before.
Kill Bill isn't underrated by anyone.
>>70146102
It's called synthesis
>literally every 13 year old weeb's fantasy made into a movie
yeah no. it was pleb shit for teenagers.
Gordon Liu as Pai Mei was hysterical and amazing
>>70144409
HOMAGE YOU DUMMY
>>70143723
underrated post
>>70146102
>>70146160
>>70146655
>>70147880
>>70150278
>>70150326
we get it, you're a special snowflake for hating Tarantino.
>>70143624
>tfw Tarantino had to cut the sequence where Gogo Yubari's twin comes to L.A. to avenge her twin's death due to budget and time constraints
Read the screenplay. It's the most amazing thing. They do car chases bloody sword fights through the L.A. suburbs, wrecking several houses in the process.
>>70151494
>Tarantino had to cut the sequence where Gogo Yubari's twin comes to L.A. to avenge her twin's death due to budget and time constraints
NO ;_;
>>70151796
who is in pic, please stop this madness
>>70146680
Wasn't it just 1 and 2 together?
>>70150637
I DESPISE THE DAMN JAPS
I read that originally he was going to be poorly dubbed by Tarantula himself, could have been funny
>>70151897
>>70143723
First post is the best post tbqh
>>70144409
is this how quentin's foot fetish started? with lady snowblood?
Bill was such a secretive powerful elusive superboss in the first movie but in the second he was just a charismatic psychopath. Both movies are good but they aren't the same.
>>70151494
>>70151796
>tfw Tarantino had to cut the sequence where Gogo Yubari's twin comes to L.A. to avenge her twin's death due to budget and time constraints
You know that never actually left the written stages, yes? It was wasn't filmed.
>>70155138
You can "cut" things from a script
>>70143624
>Is lack of substance negative when the style is outstanding?
One doesn't make up for the other
>>70143624
On par with Jackie Brown, I think Kill Bill is Tarantulas magnum opus. Everything about it is beautiful.
People like to call his movies genre rip-offs, but I don't care. Kill Bill is great and KB2 is underrated.
>>70143624
>Kill Bill is underrated by critics?
No legit critic ever had anything bad to say about this film.
>>70147078
thought that was a picture of tarantino from the thumbnail
>>70155501
Kermode
>>70151796
Chiaki Kuriyama was my first Asian crush, The bar scene was oddly tantalizing even at a young age.
