No that X-Men Apocalypse has flopped and bombed, what will happen to the film future of the X-Men? What Should happen?
Will Fox cut a deal with Marvel Studios so that Wolverine appears in infinity war and for them to make X-Men films for Fox (like Sony)???
Will Fox make Deadpool the leader of X-Men?
Will they fire Singer and get some fresh blood?
Will they finally give in and just give the rights back to Marvel (where they belong)?
>>70060013
X-Men will be with Fox forever. Like BvS and Warcraft, it will get bad reviews but will make enough money to go forward.
>>70060013
>Will they finally give in and just give the rights back to Marvel (where they belong)?
They should do this.
The X-Men belong with the rest of the Marvel Universe.
>>70060042
>complaining about capeshit
>posts biggest capeshit meme show
Pls never breed and cut your dick off, okay?
>>70060042
bazooka
>>70060337
How the fuck is Big Bang Theory a superhero movie?
>>70060261
No they don't. Their movie rights being separated were a blessing from God Herself so we don't have to deal with the obvious hypocrisy of the Avengers looking the other way when mutants are being genocided.
>>70060013
>Will Fox make Deadpool the leader of X-Men?
Deadpool becomes the new Wolverine/Mystique
>>70060013
Nigga that was their plan if it didn't flop.
>>70060013
Woops.
>>70060013
Deadpool Cinematic Universe incoming.
>>70060177
>Warcraft
>enough money to go forward
lol no
>>70060013
They might get to an agreement after IW, like the one with Sony.
Mutants become part of the MCU, but Fox keeps the profits from solo mutant movies.
It would benefit both of them and no one would give anything up.
>>70060369
He said capeshit MEME show.
They literally sperg about capeshit in every episode.
>>70060013
You're a dumb fag and your questions are stupid.
Of course it'll make money. It's far more successful than Fantastic Flop, which rumor has it, is going to have a sequel. Imagine that.
I'm pleased with the movie so I'm cool with them milking it some more.
At this point Marvel/Disney need zero more characters. It's DC the one that desperately needs to get their shit together.
And Sony dropped the race already, I believe.
>>70060013
>Will they finally give in and just give the rights back to Marvel
Hopefully not
>>70060620
>It's far more successful than Fantastic Flop, which rumor has it, is going to have a sequel
Hahaha, no it's not.
They'll probably push one in like 4 years to keep the rights, but that's it.
>>70060013
Screw the X-Men, I want the Fantastic Four back at Marvel.
>>70060456
Cyclops told the Avengers not to get involved because it's "Mutant business and we'll deal with it".
Also the Avengers are usually busy saving the Earth from Kang.
>its a marvelfag pretends X2 and DOFP dont surpass their entire flick catalogue
>>70060767
This.
It would make no sense to introduce mutants so late, but they could easily put the Fantastic 4 at any moment, plus Fox is not going to do anything worthwile with them.
>>70060851
>it's a DCuck tries to use a franchise that's not relevant anymore to fight against the MCU
>>70060747
http://www.cinemablend.com/m/new/Fantastic-Four-2-May-Still-Happen-With-Changes-76417.html
Yep.
Honestly, companies only care about profit, no matter how bad some autists keep saying something is (and this movie is not bad by any means) so as long as it makes them money, they're not selling anything.
>>70060947
But Fantastic Flop barely broke even.
Anyway, at this point they are just making them to keep the rights so they can sell them to Marvel instead of letting them revert back for nothing.
>>70060885
BvS was the equivalent baby's first Jesus imagery movie, and he's right about both those movies
>>70060013
X-Men Apocalypse was a WAY better film than Civil War, it deserves so much more. It gets my vote for best use of Beethoven since forever.
>You can fire your Arrows from the Tower of Babel, but you can NEVER! STRIKE! GOD!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQoEEr-63KU
>>70060042
Zimbabwe
>>70060995
I know. I was using it at an example. Something that made marginal profit and bad reviews is (possibly) getting a sequel.
Why would a superior trilogy that made them good profit be sold away willy-nilly?
>>70061167
Oh no, the X-Men not coming back, was just saying about Fantastic 4.
>>70060995
If Fox lets Marvel Studios get the FF rights it will lead to Marvel Studios making a good FF movie which will make Fox look like incompetent idiots (well, bigger ones).
It's better to keep raping the franchise until they start losing money. Then they can let Marvel have them.
>>70061147
Not surprised it was /tv/ the only place I see people praising the capeshit nobody cares about.
The xmen movies just have something about them. Nothing tops the wolverine scene in the mansion.
>>70061216
But they already have.
Marvel offered them to keep the rights for Daredevil for much longer in exchange for the Fantastic 4 rights back in 2014, since Fox was producing a Daredevil movie at that time.
They said no, the Daredevil rights reverted back to Marvel, Marvel made a show everyone liked, and Fox made yet another flop.
>>70061242
>The xmen movies just have something about them.
Blandness? Unimaginative?
>>70061147
Rotten Tomatoes says otherwise
>>70060853
The only way I could see that working is as an unintended (or maybe intended) consequence of the Infinity Gauntlet being mutating a load of people. You could organically introduce Xmen/mutants over time in the same way the Avengers were built up and it gets found the problem of the Avengers guys leaving the franchise etc.
>>70060013
>No that X-Men Apocalypse has flopped
This rating is pretty suspicious, not that I'm accusing disney of buying the critics, but to give such bad reviews to a blockbuster superhero movie, giving it a score that insists to stay bellow 50%,and then having a movie CA: civil war which is a mess of a movie full of structure and writing problems, at 90%, suggests a prejudice towards anything that isn't MCU.
>Will Fox cut a deal with Marvel Studios so that Wolverine appears in infinity war and for them to make X-Men films for Fox (like Sony)???
I hope not, Marvel studious produce really bad movies that somehow make a lot of money, and I'd rather watch a good movie that doesn't make a lot of money than to watch a bloated production that isn't even sure if the story makes any sense.
>Will Fox make Deadpool the leader of X-Men?
No, but I hope to see an X-force movie.
>Will they fire Singer and get some fresh blood?
Singer is a very good director, I'm not even thinking about his capeshit movies.
>Will they finally give in and just give the rights back to Marvel
Nope, Deadpool brought a new life to the franchise, I think things are going to drastically change, all thanks to Deadpool's success.
>(where they belong)?
Fox is where they belong, fuck disney and their bloated tv looking productions.
Death to the mouse.
>>70061263
Daredevil sucks ass. It's good as a shitty show that's pretty much Gotham with a red Batman.
They made the smart move. Fantastic-Four is an amazing franchise and it's not like their errors are set in stone or incorregible. They just need to find their Singer/Russo/Not-Snyder
>>70061342
Will the anus of DCucks ever recover?
>>70061308
that's why I said it deserves so much more, the critics just shit on anything not Disney-Marvel
>>70060456
>God Herself
>>70061361
What you think about it is irrelevant.
The fact is that Marvel put to good use a license they got for free, and Fox decided to keep a license that has videogame movie-tier reputation.
I think its more of a Bryan Singer problem
If they let the director of Deadpool take over Xmen I can see it being a much better franchise.
And I hope marvel never gets the rights because having Xmen in the Avengers movies would be way way too big of a clusterfuck
>>70061388
>G-G-GUYS X-MEN IS TOTALLY NOT GARBAGE PLS MORE SCORE
>>70061388
Hold your head up
Keep your head up, movin' on
Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Hold your head up
Keep your head up, movin' on
Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Apocalypse was mediocre, forgettable and unnecessary. Had some neat moments like Jean's Phoenix aura & another Quicksilver bit.
X2 and First Class were great though. The rest, I could do without. Thanks to Future Past, only the First Class cast ones are canon now anyways -_-
>>70061422
>If they let the director of Deadpool take over Xmen I can see it being a much better franchise
This, the guy actually cared enough about the characters to give them good costumes.
Singer only cares about his twinks.
>>70061493
This.
The franchise could have ended in Days of Future Past.
It was a great ending.
>>70061362
I don't think so.
>>70061511
That's not really correct though. From the perspective of Wolverine all of the events from every movie have happened.
>>70061625
I'm not saying that it should have been only First Class and DOFP, i'm saying that DOFP could have been the ending of the current franchise, and then reboot it or something.
>>70061661
I agree. It was just about the canon thing, the films are all still canon from what I interpret.
>>70061511
Should have rebooted the franchise with new talent.
>>70060013
Wasn't in the theatre to watch it so far so I am not able to post anything about Apocalypse.
But so far the Singer movies were the best scripted ones of the franchise and I am really wondering why this one is rated so medicore.
On the other hand around 50% in RT often means that critics sometimes just missed the point and that there is a lot of going on inbetween the lines of a film.
>>70061772
It's just there's not too much plot, it's a lot of mindless destruction going on.
>>70061625
Wait, thinking about that now, the Wolverine in Apocalypse, is that the same Wolverine that time-traveled in DOFP? Are there 2 Wolverine's in this timeline? If not where is the other one? I'm confused.
>>70061661
That's exactly what they did, you dunce.
The characters are now rebooted, Jean, Storm, Scott.. The only ones not returning at this point would be Magneto and Mystique. They knew how to do things, unlike DC that fucks over fans by reintroducing the same characters over and over because they can't into planning ahead.
The only thing holding this back is cyclops being a manlet
Fuckboi needs a stepladder to kiss his gf, whoever casts this shit should be fired
>>70061744
canon, but not part of the movie main timeline anymore then. I mean, fuck, X2 did Wolverine's origins just fine, Origins retconned that, and now with the time travel shit they did it again in Apocalypse. Fucking why.
>>70061806
Really? With First Class and DotFP there was at least some nice allusions regarding the 60s and 70s to be found both visually and political wise. I was hoping for some 80s cold war feel for this one.
>>70061958
Aside from Apocalypse getting rid of all of the nukes, not really.
>>70061958
It was, I liked FC and I loved DOFP, but there was not much going on in this one.
You'll still like it if you like X-Men in general, but it's by far the weakest movie since The Wolverine.
>>70061829
The DoFP Wolverine technically erased the cameo one, because that particular consciousness was replaced by the awakening one. BUT given that he was physically there means that the cameo Wolverine somehow manages to find Charles and the Xmen again, even in the altered timeline.
>>70061925
Jean Grey is 6ft in X2, girls mature faster than boys. Makes sense
>>70061433
No one cares about your dumb RT scores, all that matters is how good the movies are, I can watch any X-Men movie any time (with the exception of origins and x3), they are pretty good movies, the direction, the writing, the pace are all great, making them movies worthy being watched many times.
The disney/marvel movies are just bland, the writing sucks, the cinematography is on par with something of a day time tv show and it seems like they are afraid of offending or hurting any susceptibilities, so they make their movies sterile and politicly correct, that's something that I can only watch once and want to forget about when it's over.
>>70062132
Only /tv/ is so contrarian to care about the capeshit that fell into irrelevancy years ago.
Stay mad, cucks.
>>70060851
>DOFP
>good
when will this meme end?
>>70062018
And he got cucked in that
Since no one could take him seriously as a leader or as Jean Gray's love interest since he looks like a ten year old boy with silly glasses next to Hugh Jackman
Needed more ancient egyptian stuff.
>>70061829
I don't think I could explain how I am viewing this without some sort of diagram but basically the Wolverine that we are going to see in the final film:
Experienced all of the original trilogy and his solo shit.
Experienced a couple of days in DOFP
Was filled in on the history of the new trilogy timeline from everything that happened after DOFP by Xavier (we have not seen this all of this yet). At the conclusion of DOFP he knows nothing from his life in that timeline because the consciousness in that body retains the memory of the original trilogy.
So all the new stuff has happened but the memories of the original films still exist via wolverine. So it's all 'canon' even though we are in a different timeline from the original.
Sorry that this is sloppy but I'm on sn image.jpg device and it's not easy keeping track of what I'm saying.
>>70061772
Singer dropped the ball with this one.
Too much Magneto (again), he overacts and gives a Darth Vader NNNOOOOO
JLaw gives the most half-assed performance (and doesn't have her blue skin throughout 90% of the movie) also she's mutant Jesus
Magneto's dead wife gets more lines than Psylocke (who has two lines)
Jubilee appears for like a minute cameo and doesn't use her powers (most of the Mall scenes were cut).
Redid the Quicksilver scene from DoFP except made it stupider
Apocalypse is boring as shit and overacts.
Terrible ps2 cgi
Most of the young X-Men take a backseat to Mystique, Prof X, and Magneto
Wolverine gets his weapon x costume, except it's shit because his face is exposed (they even try to do a dramatic reveal when they take it off except you can see his face because if you're gonna pay a billion to have Hugh in your movie you're gonna show his face as much as you can)
>>70062180
>getting this defensive just because someone exposed you babyfied franchise for what it is
Cry more
>>70062438
>complains about babyfied franchises
>defends capeshit
lmao
>>70062193
The Rogue Cut really blew me away. They did a lot neat Cross-cutting stuff there.
>>70062277
Yeah I got super excited watching the intro, and the rest of the film wasn't that awesome. I just realized too that the Egyptian guys who rebelled against Apocalypse where just normal dudes, they had this awesome plan and they succeeded in destroying the fucker WITHOUT superpowers. Now these X-men, with way better technology and way more understanding of the world try and do it, and the planet blows up and everyone nearly dies. Normal Egyptian guys where the true heroes, fuck the rest of the movie, it should have just ended after the Egypt stuff.
>>70061929
I honestly can't remember the contradictions that film created, just that it was a pretty poor film. What did it do to change his X2 story? Did it not just expand on it?
>>70062406
It's everything I was worried about. Except the JLaw thing. I found here surprisngly OK in DOFP but I have nor respect for her as an actor at all in general.
What bothers me most is the overacting. I hate it when this happens in a fantasy or sci-fi flick. Shit should be subtle at least in acting most of the time because it's all inbetween the lines. Oh well, I gonna judge for myself tomorrow.
>>70062461
>>defends capeshit
I have no problem defending a movie when one is structured as such and can be considered movie, I can't do the same thing for the MCU though.
>>70062602
>unironically defending capeshit
lmao
>>70060013
Its disappointing because I find FOX X-Men films much more adventurous and daring than generic Disney kike Marvel bullshit now.
It makes me even appreciate the first two Singer films even more.
Rankings for me:
X1
DoFP
First Class
Deadpool
X2
...I kinda ignore X3
>>70061298
Captain America CW? Captain America WS? Bland, grey, boring, status quo, nothing has longstanding events other than dissolving SHIELD, and throwing the scraps of that dogshit plotline to AoS which doesn't even have an impact on the MCU.
Great points.
>>70062193
Kill yourself, DoFP is one of the best movies of 2014, godtier soundtrack and acting from McAvoy and Fassbender
>>70062697
It's hilarious seeing capeshitters pretend to know ANYTHING about cinematography and making up cinemagrids of completely unimpressive shots.
The Dark Knight trilogy is the only superhero flick with decent cinematography.
>>70062731
b-b-b-but muh quips
>>70062573
It wasn't majorly contradictory, it was plausible within the franchise, just X2 said as much as was needed to be about his origins. And they didn't bother to even be consistent with the X2 flashbacks.
>>70062697
>shit cg shit photography
>bu-but it's good.
foxmen are trash
>>70060013
shit comes out tomorrow in my area
>>70062638
>I find FOX X-Men films much more adventurous and daring
Yeah you also have to remember that the first X-men films came out in the early 2000's when Superheroes where niche and basically not profitable, like videogame movies now. Sure you'll get your money back from the nerds who like this shit but it's not gonna be huge, except if you're spidey or supes. Then Dark knight rises happened and superhero movies became mainstream, so Marvel Disney cashed in on that shit, HARD, and now it gets all this public recognition? FUCK you Disney, FUCK you, you turned comicbook heroes into a meme, a cookie cutter, dry stale formula to create a successful film. FOX films always had more balls
>>70062776
>muh kino
>converting things to black and white to make them "better" than they should
Hello delusional /sp/ poster. I don't visit /co/, I judge capeshit on how adventurous they're trying to be rather than the generic Marvel shlock that is expected by now (unlike initial Marvel with IM1, CA1, etc).
I'll give you that I really did like Batman Begins. I think its one of the best executed capeshit films at "modernizing" or "bringing the camp level down to 'realistic-like', but not 'real' levels.
But TDK and TDKR? lol, pure "kino" memefaggotry from /sp/.
>>70062776
Too bad it wasn't shot in black and white, can you imagine the whole trilogy in black and white.
>>70062855
I completely agree.
>>70062896
>muh black and white memefaggotry
I bet you people also posted about Mad Max black and white "kino" grids/remuxes. Memefucks.
>>70062855
>Then Dark knight rises happened and superhero movies became mainstream
LOL
>>70062888
Even in color those shots would look good.
>But TDK and TDKR? lol, pure "kino" memefaggotry from /sp/.
You may criticize the plot or le epic baneposting, but the cinematography of the TDK trilogy is good, and Nolan knows how to shoot.
Pretty much the only capeshit director since Tim Burton that knows.
T'was kind of disappointing how Psylocke and Angel were pretty much non-characters too. Mainly Psylocke.
>>70062855
This.
>>70060013
>>70062855
>FOX films always had more balls
Dude, they literally made a movie just to retcon all the trash that happened in the franchise.
Literally half of the capeshit that Fox has released has been pure trash.
>Elektra
>Daredevil
>X-Men 3
>X-Men Origins Wolverine
>The Wolverine
>Fantastic 4
>Fantastic 4 Silver Surfer
>Fantastic Flop 2015
>>70062927
>I bet you people also posted about Mad Max black and white
Man, can you imagine how great it would have look in black and white.
>>70062950
I'll give you that, the cinematography of TDK, not TDKR. TDK was poor in its... execution of script, poor plot? I don't know, something was missing and it was a hot mess I think, but with some tweaks, it could have been better.
You made a good point.
>>70063015
>>>Elektra
>>Daredevil
>>X-Men 3
>>X-Men Origins Wolverine
>>The Wolverine
>>Fantastic 4
>>Fantastic 4 Silver Surfer
>>Fantastic Flop 2015
And now X-men Apocalypse
>>70062932
It was actually Spiderman but he's right about everything else.
>>70060013
Apocalypse was a lame villain.
Zemo from CA Civil War was better. Heck, the Mandarin from Iron Man 3 was better.
>>70063071
X-Men Apocalypse is not too bad, but it's much weaker than the two previous X-Men movies.
>>70063101
>X-Men Apocalypse is not too bad
It's fucking garbage, stop apologizing for it.
>>70063015
The first two f4 movies werent even bad
The GOAT casting made up for the shit writing
>>70063099
>the Mandarin from Iron Man 3
STILL fucking mad
>>70063148
Sure, they are entertaining movies to watch if you understand that they are not good and just appreciate their goofyness, but when treated as a superhero movie, they are bad.
Who has the worse track record? Fox or wb/DC?
>>70060013
>X-Men Apocalypse has a lower Rotten Tomatoes score than Man of Steel, The Amazing Spider-Man 2, AND X-Men the Last Stand
Damn....
>>70063005
>boasting a decidedly non-cartoonish plot and the courage to explore thought provoking themes
DEEP PLOTS
>>70063101
Rotten Tomatoed says otherwise.
>>70063257
Rotten Tomatoes says the truth, it's a 5/10, it's a mediocre and weak movie.
A bad movie is a 4/10 and lower.
>>70060013
That sounds like an awful idea and you should feel bad for posting it
>>70063279
>48%
>>70063177
X Men were mostly well received.
In terms of WB with DC, the Burton and Nolan Batmans were good. Superman 1,2, and in my opinion 5 were good. Man of steel was good. If they don't do campy, normally WB DC stuff is mediocre at worst. Which is why they went for Snyder. Which, unfortunately, is a poor choice for mainstream appeal.
>>70063099
>Zemo from CA Civil War was better
Literally just a butthurt guy.
>>70063334
You can define pretty much all villains ever written like that.
>>70063160
Easily Marvel's most geopolitically relevant villain and theyre too scared of the chinese government to use him properly
Fucking spineless jews
>>70063279
No, 5/10 is failing.
That's why it says ROTTEN on the score and NOT fresh.
If it was 6/10 then it would be fresh.
Therefore, X-Men Apocalypse is bad an rotten.
*Moc Drop*
>>70063362
Pretty boring to be honest.
>>70060261
The only way I'd accept this is if they'd make Cyclops a well developed character and do him justice.
Knowing Marvel, though, he'll just be Jock McQuip. So I'd rather have the franchises separate.
>>70063217
Which goes to show how little that rating means.
How is AoU a better movie than Apocalypse? I don't get it.
>>70064344
>Knowing Marvel, though, he'll just be Jock McQuip
Better than being Manlet McCucked
>>70064565
Are you implying the clops wouldn't be cucked by RDJ (oh, I'm sorry. Tony Stark) in the MCU?
>>70064656
Hell. They'd even make it so Tony would probably create the mutants himself.
>>70064656
When has stark cucked anybody?
Meanwhile Singer seems to revel in making cyclops as pathetic and unlikable as possible
>>70063148
The two first F4 movies are basically MCU movies. The only difference is shitty Galactus in the second.
>>70064762
And you think that'd change with a recasted Clawman in the MCU?
>>70064762
I really don't get this.
In "X1", Cyclops is the de-facto leader of the X-Men and takes down Sabretooth and Magneto. Yes, he's a bit douchey, but comes around in the end.
In "X2", he holds his own against Deathstrike and Jean, and wins the Jeanbowl.
He's only killed off unceremoniously in "X3", which was not a Singer joint.
>>70063005
>thought-provoking themes
DUDE MISUNDERSTANDING LMAO
Wow so deep, it totally deserves more reviews and a higher number of positive reviews than Kurosawa movies.
>b-b-but they don't get reviewed by the same people!
>bb-bbut it's a funny movie you c-can't compare it with the real movies!
Then make it a separate site, call it Rotting Plebmatoes or something and just do capeshit and action shit reviews on it.
>>70064949
Of course not. If people just want to pair up Jean Grey and Wolverine just so they can have their "Good Girl/Bad Boy" romance, so be it. Cyclops was better off with other women anyway.
I just pray it doesn't fall into Disney's hands, I already know for a fact MCU Spiderman will never be as good as Raimi Spiderman.
>>70065044
wew those tears.
>>70065200
Deadpool 2 and next two X-men movies would have to be huge bombs for them to give up. The most likely scenario is that Fox will trade Fantastic 4 for all X-men TV rights, in time for the F4, Spider-man and the New Avengers to lead Phase 4 and beyond.
I'm willing to hold out hope that Homecoming will be the "John Hughes" inspired movie they claim it to be. The action scenes will by quippy, but the drama scenes will have a poor kid trying to balance out responsibility of Spider-man with trying to make life better for Aunt May
>>70065248
If you don't care about films it's fine, there's surely as sub on reddit made just for you, but this is /tv/ and it's made for connoisseurs of the art, and capeshit movies should be received by critics just how Die Hard or Lethal Weapon after 3 were back in the days, IE maybe entertaining but not worthy of an actually good review.
Everything from Disney, Fox or Sony doesn't even come close to something like The Revenant or No Country for Old Men, no matter how much the shills at the big websites pretend they do, which is why it's so awful to see this juvenile trash get praised by paid off critics.
>>70065044
>>Then make it a separate site, call it Rotting Plebmatoes or something and just do capeshit and action shit reviews on it.
Boy do I have news for you:
https://www.highmdb.tv/
>>70065378
>I'm willing to hold out hope that Homecoming will be the "John Hughes"
Not with their "diversity" casting.
It's going to be a stinker.
