There you ave it folks
They shouldn't have made a second season, desu
Should've just let the McConaughey and Woody season stand alone as a one season story
>>70050459
but season 2 was better
>>70050414
>In other words. Nic Pizzolatto pitched a bunch of garbage, just like season two, but this time he doesn't have the benefit of doubt
Just proves how much of a hack he is.
RIP DUSTY MASON
even Deadwood had a 3rd season..
Source??
>yfw no Mike Myers and Brendan Fraiser team up
http://www.indiewire.com/article/true-detective-season-3-not-likely-soon-nic-pizzolatto--new-hbo-project-20160525?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=IW_post
>>70050488
It definitely wasn't. Season one felt like a finished novel onscreen. Season two was a mess of a half-formed idea. Oh, and memes aside, the people in season two are all unlikable. The strength of season one is we like the True Detectives. All the people in season two are miserable and it doesn't feel bad when they come to their miserable ends.
>>70050414
However you feel about the writing, this makes zero business sense.
What is HBO thinking?
We will never get to experience more epic TD style Intros n themes... dat imagery
I was waiting all year for the 3rd one...
"Season 2 was a mistake" -Pizzalatte.
i wish he got some co-writers and got to make a season 3, i feel like it could work, i imaged like 4-5 seasons of this show after season 1...
>>70050637
HBO has the liberty of putting quality over monetary value when it chooses to. This should be celebrated, not questioned.
>>70050729
well maybe his next show will be better
>>70050775
>game of thrones
>quality
>tfw vince posting is dead
Caspere knew this!
>>70050414
GODFUCKINGDAMMIT
Oh no! Not pseudo smart new age shit flick? Ples no
deepest fucking lore
>3rd Season of HBO Crime Drama Unlikely to Be Made, Report Says
Thank God!
While I did in a way enjoy laughing AT season2, it was such a fish in the barrel past-time it was sad.
>>70050775
Quality my ass
>>70050459
>Should've just let the McConaughey and Woody season stand alone as a one season story
Exactly, then we'd all be going, "wow that was good too bad it ended". Instead we got the steaming pile that was season2, which still makes my head hurt even thinking about it.
Fukunaga made true detective what it was, not Lattepizza.
PIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This sums True Detective's demise up nicely.
>>70050414
>>70052219
>>70050414
It's kind of unfortunate, I liked the "nature" of the show- two detectives unraveling a much grander conspiracy and toppling major public figures while uncovering a complex lore. It's got cults, southern zealousness and someone in desperate pursuit of the truth.
The second season couldn't compare. Sure, it had an all-star cast, but the atmosphere was a definite downgrade and the lore in season 2 was almost non-existent. I understand that on television they want to cover "the human condition" or whatever and give depth to their characters, but they made too large of a segue-way and wound up abandoning the concepts which made their show popular to begin with.
They tried to hard. Way too hard. They ruined a perfectly good show.
Wait! If there's no Season3 what am I going to do with my 417 saved high quality info-images about the series?!?!?!?!?
>>70053096
2deep4u, pleb?
>>70051978
what is this pic about? Marty's dauther was raped?
>make 1st season about conspiracies, compelling characters, great actors, visionary director and generally everything though out to the last detail
>make 2nd season about real estate frauds and some dudes who happen to be around that
>fails
Gee I wonder why
>>70050834
missing the point this hard is just sad...
The actors, the setting, the motif for season two were spot on. To bad Fukunaga was busy directing the movie of the year with future James.
It's a shame, I enjoyed S2.
>>70053621
yes
Thank god
And when is the "season 2 was good" meme going to end? It's not that funny of a meme
Why was season 2 so shit?
Haven't watched the show at all.
>>70050637
ratings dont really matter for HBO since it is a subscription based channel. critical acclaim, awards, etc do matter since it makes people subscribe (pay $$$) to get HBO on their cable service.
>>70050488
Season2 was a joke
Miss me yet? Anybody knows that the performances of McCaugnhey / Harrelson and the direction of Fukunaga was what made Season 1 great and it literally had nothing to do with Pizza.
>>70053818
It had nice ideas but the story as a whole was a senseless mess and the conclusion was really unsatisfactory
>>70053887
This Tbh.
The story and the writing by itself was nothing special, The atmosphere, pacing and the performances made the show.
>>70053818
It removed everything that made S1 unique and distinctive so it was just an edgy cop drama with a mediocre plot.
If it was its own thing it would be fine and maybe lauded on its own terms, but as a season of True Detective it was terrible.
>>70053818
Fukunaga wasn't involved
Pizza had all the power
Vinceposting
Convoluted and messy storytelling
Season 1 only had Rust and Marty and they worked together so they shared the screen and drove the story forward together
Season 2 had Ray, McAdams, GayCop, and Vince and each had their own side stories that pulled the narrative in different directions that didn't work well
is this the biggest and quickest fall from grace for a tv show ever? 1st season was raved about as "as good as television gets" and then cancelled a season later
>>70053818
it was on par with the first season, you're just a mindless pleb jbr famalam
>>70053818
It wasn't, people just had their expectations way too high and then called it complete garbage when it wasn't perfect. It has flaws but it in no way deserved to take it in the ass as hard as it did.
>>70054124
yes, but the show hasn't been canceled. Pizz is simply working on another project. HBO is game if Pizz wants to do another season. the way i see it, i'd do something else first, too, then return. he's already worked on the screenplay for the remake of Magnificent Seven, and now it seems he's pitching another series or feature for HBO before considering another season of TD. seems Pizz's weakness as a writer is his lack of ideas for future storylines. he's more of a one-and-done type of writer. so i say let him take his time and hopefully he'll write a worthy follow up season and collaborate with a great director to see it come to fruition.
>>70054183
>>70054194
Pizza please. It was disappointing and everyone knows it.
>>70053842
>green ears
>he paints with his ears
s1 was the joke
I did like season 1 much better too
Still I cried like a baby when the gay detective got shot in the back and died, just thinking about it makes me sad. It was mostly because of the old movie his wife was watching, that was the thing that got to me and i teared up.
season 2 is still better than GOT
>>70054194
It was pretty bad, mediocre at the very best. Everyone needs to stop apologizing for it
>>70054565
This pic is right about something at least.
S2 lacked big juicy tits.
>>70054565
this sounds very similar to s1
>>70054565
>>70054653
She's a fucking cow
>>70050488
Hey look it's the retarded contrarian, back again with one of his classic shitposts
>>70054737
Yeah and daddy wants some milk
>>70054670
>s2 is too different from s1
>waaaaaaaaaah its too different ;_;
>pitch ideas for s3
>waaaaaaaaaah its too similar ;_;
lets just face it, no one was going to be happy with season 2 no matter what. If it stuck with the 2 cop format investigating a cult all of you faggots would have cried about it being the same. Pizza's a hack, one trick pony. Nothing new.
>>70055075
>If it stuck with the 2 cop format investigating a cult all of you faggots would have cried about it being the same
nice hypotheticals there
>>70055117
>movie has too much exposition dump
>HURRRR DURRR THANKS IM NOT A RETARD
>movie doesn't have any exposition dumps
>I NEED MY HAND HELD SOMEBODY SPOONFEED ME
this board is very predictable
>>70050414
>tfw no adolf hitler and josef stalin teaming up to bring down a satanic pedophile ring in berlin of 1930
I just watched Season 2 recently and really liked it. What was everyone's beef? It felt like a new spin on the first season's premise; severely broken characters combating with each other and themselves while in pursuit of something greater. 1 was a tighter package, but I liked the sprawling cast of 2.
>>70055175
lacking exposition wasnt one of the main complaints though..using elements which could've made the season good and turning it into a real estate cop drama between 4 fucking characters is
>>70054591
autism, folks. right here.
>>70053818
>70054194
Everything the other posters said, plus a really bad location. It's just like a million other dark and moody Fincher/Mann knockoffs in LA. Compare that to how alive and distinct rural, impoverished Louisiana felt in the first season. I still have the first season committed to memory from how well directed/shot it was, whereas just a year later the majority of S2 has been forgotten.
>>70053887
Kubrick must be doing back-flips in his grave knowing that this worthless hack will be adapting his Napoleon
I bet it will be even more pathetic than his laughable and embarassing failed oscar bait Memes of No Nation.
>>70055290
i thought the characters were a little over the top with all the trauma - it was too much, this is my biggest problem with it
i also remember a lot of coincidences
>>70055175
i predicted a fedora tipping autist would complain about /tv/ in this thread and act like he's smarter than everybody else
thanks m8
>>70055370
Fukunaga's problems are with his scripts, his direction is great. I have confidence he can make someone else's script great like he did with TD
>>70051978
Some people think this storyline was "dropped" but actually there's enough evidence to argue that there are enough clues. Marty and his wife definitely missed what happened to Audrey though
Why does everyone really hate the second season?
If you never watched the 2nd season it'd still be considered fucking great
Is this the wire all over again where the 1st and second season are so different that people chimp out over the change?
>>70055477
It's obviously not meant to be at the front of the story. The details are there, more than enough to arouse suspicion but not enough to know anything for sure. That's what makes it so uncomfortable
>>70055477
Why wasn't she killed like the others?
>>70055408
I guess that's true. Marty was a proper foil to Rust, grounding the latter's goofy ass speeches with some normal-guy humility, whereas the cast here felt isolated from each other from beginning to end.
But I think that was one of the themes running like a lightning bolt through S2. Everyone was deeply disconnected from themselves and the world in which they'd barely been able to make a home. Every one of them had a fucked up childhood, were trying to vindicate it through personal triumphs in their own life in which they were failing, and lost themselves in something which might have proven to be for a greater cause, only to get systematically crushed by infinitely greater powers.
Far more bleak than S1, but I liked it, and would be happy to see an S3.
But Bloodline Season 2 comes out tomorrow so I'm already getting settled in for some juicy TV drama.
>>70054937
kek
>>70055602
>The details are there, more than enough to arouse suspicion but not enough to know anything for sure.
are you kidding me just look at the pictures, drawings and the sex thing with the toys, how much more obvious did you want it to be
>>70050488 (You)
>>70055625
I have no fucking clue
>>70050775
>quality
>>70055477
nice
>>70055596
Read the thread bozo, people have listed plenty of reasons.
It wasn't terrible it just wasn't that great either. I think it's probably fine on its own, a little boring and pompous, but it wasn't a good continuation of True Detective.
To me, the differences between the seasons are far different than the Wire.
>>70055820
I meant it's never explicitly addressed, there's always some doubt that you could be reading into it. Especially from Marty's POV when he isn't seeing these things all at once
>>70055449
no
he's hack
all of his "films" were mediocre at best in every possible way, including the directing.
and all these idiots itt believing that he was most responsible for season one's success just shows how low this shitfest of a board has sunk
>>70055354
He is right s2 is much better than game of plebs
>>70056251
so, someone told him how to direct season 1 then?
I was unimpressed with beasts of no nation, I thought it was mediorcre at best, but s1 of true detective is almost ultimate GOAT
so who was responsible for that? who was responsible for the visuals that made it into a show? we should find that guy tbqh, he should be involved in more tv shows
>>70053887
>>70055370
>>70055449
>>70056251
>>70056251
Fukunaga has so much potential
the guy is 38 give him a break, i bet he will become a great director
>>70053818
it wasn't shit, I would give it 8/10 for being better than the average tv-show.
However, s1 was so superb, it stands as one of the best shows I have seen; 10/10, if not 11/10.
s2 is like a candle that brings light to the dark night full of bland tv shows, but s1 is a raging bonfire that blinds the eye.
the bar was simply set too high after s1, which is why many here think that s2 was "shit".
>>70056722
director(s) in tv shows don't have significant roles, they're input counts definitely, but not a whole lot, because it's the creator of the show that's in charge.
he's is the one who tells them what to shoot, and how to shoot it, he is the one that provides the director(s) with the story.
the most responsible person for the visuals and also evrything else about the show was Pizzolato
Just like David Milch was in Deadwood , or David Simon was in The Wire
And these shows are the perfect examples for this because:
>the wire had almost thirty different directors direct it's 60 episodes
>deadwood had 15 different directors direct it's 36 episodes
proving that a certain director(s) has almost no significant contribution to the success of any show
>>70056946
I bash S2 all the time and I more or less agree with this.
It just didn't have the 'magic' that S1 had. And while Rust was edgy, it was done in an interesting way while all 3 characters in S2 were all just regularly edgy
>>70057544
>all 3
it was 4 desu
>>70051978
and it came to nothing. just two fat ugly fuckers in a forest.
>>70058303
But they said they were only the stupid ones who were left. The rest of the family and the other conspirators in the video that were actually doing all the awful shit either were dead or had gotten away. I think it was implied that younger generations of Tuttles were still around and probably up to no good.
>>70057533
this is bullshit of the highest degree
basically what youre saying is that a director is a glorified cameraman..just think about it for a second
>>70054937
fucking kek
Pizza blew it when he didn't bring Fuckyounaga for directing in season 2.
>>70059089
he is
and this is proven by the fact that most of these tv episode directors made horrendous movies
just take Alan Taylor for example, this dude directed episodes of mad men, sopranos, six feet under, oz and a bunch of other great shows, but he also directed terminator genisys and thor 2, which are probably among the worst movies i've ever seen in my life
>>70059140
>make GOAT first season of a show
>success goes to your head and you star being a little bitch to the director who helped s1 become GOAT
>he fucks off
>make 2nd season with a bunch of random directors
>it flops
I wonder how he feels right now
>>70050414
Well fug.
At least we had one god tier season.
>>70059333
Trips of truth.
>>70059319
You're right but TD cant really be compared with anything that exists so far though..its the only tv show which can actually be compared to actual cinema and hold up. It ascends television and is actually cinema broken down to 10 episodes. And thats because of fukushima and pizza..its 50/50
>>70055602
>>70055477
>>70055820
One explanation is that she picked it up from the 'pyschosphere' mentioned in one of Rust's fedora monologues. He mentions tasting aluminum and ash int the 'pyschosphere' then in the future when he is talking to the cops he is drinking from aluminum can as smoking a cig. Just a little pottery but could be applied to Marty's daughter. Maybe, in a way was bringing it home with him.
Most likely she was abused though.
>>70059461
eh I'd say it's comparable to the Fargo series in a few ways. They are both crime drama miniseries directed at a mature audience, they both have fleshed out characters etc.
>>70056251
>and all these idiots itt believing that he was most responsible for season one's success just shows how low this shitfest of a board has sunk
this so much, holy fuck
>>70059961
c'mon man, fargo is great, but you know deep down that TD is literally not tv material and cant be judged as such (according to what we've seen so far)
>>70057533
I'd also like to throw David Chase into the ring as well. He was the head writer, showrunner, directed only two episodes. Not exactly sure how many different directors Sopranos had, but I'm sure its comparable to the Wire and Deadwood in that there were a lot of directors. Idk about almost 30 though.
>>70059089
>basically what youre saying is that a director is a glorified cameraman
in the world of television? Yes. The showrunner reigns supreme. This isn't your capeshit were Joss Whedon makes all the shots.
>>70059319
So he's wrong then, you mean? Directors have almost no power when it comes to TV. And Taylor was shackled by the production company on both Genisys and Thor.
>>70050414
HBO gave a virtually unproven writer with way too much confidence a chance. Pizza thinks he's a virtuoso when he's just ok. He needed someone to rein his ass in. Writers have editors and tv writers have "Associate Producers" for a reason.
>>70060161
>in the world of television? Yes. The showrunner reigns supreme. This isn't your capeshit were Joss Whedon makes all the shots.
we're talking about TD here, not fucking arrow, if youre gonna reply to someone watch how the conversation goes and dont reply to shit which has already been replied to
>>70059461
>>70050459
Watched the first episode of Season 2 and instantly stopped caring... Never went back to it. I see that my instincts were correct...
>>70050414
thank god
>>70060262
>He needed someone to rein his ass in
he needed someone to take his interesting on-paper ideas and translate them into more interesting visual language..thats what fukunakamaga did, then they let pizza work with the dude who made 2fast2furious or whatever and well, we all know what the result is
>>70054937
Must be Canadian. That fridge only has milk bags.
>>70060321
>don't reply to me or my wifes son again
kill yourself faggot, you're not the only one allowed to have a conversation here
>>70060646
>replying to shit which have been already discussed
>not replying to the actual points youre replying against to since they've already been given
I bet you're one of these newfriends who doesnt even use the catalog and replies to whatever post he sees last while browsing, arent you?
Pizza should have kept stealing from comic book writers for S2
>>70060214
the other two movies he directed just based upon the posters look shit, and according to most of the reviews they are shit, and he didn't have a big studio breathing down his neck with those two
>>70060262
>unproven writer
his debut novel was very well received and it won multiple awards
and he also taught writing at like three different colleges
“HBO sources suggest a new project from creator Nic Pizzolatto is more likely,” T.H.R. reports, implying that the network would prefer to get out of the True Detective business without ending its relationship with Pizzolatto.
>>70050618
>the people in season two are all unlikable
nah they were just more realistic characters, most people are unlikeable irl
>>70061334
>nah they were just more realistic characters, most people are unlikeable irl
yeah and real life is boring as shit too, thats why people watch tv shows/movies
you gotta find the fine line
>>70061552
you have a point tbf
>>70050618
>the people in season two are unlikeable
yeah because an asshole that cheats on his wife (with whom he has a child) for years(iirc) and his alcoholic fedora tipping buddy that later on proceeds to fuck his friends wife are such likeable people
and the fact that you wan't your characters to be "likeable" just proves what a colossal pleb you and most of fagboys that dickride the oversimplified and overrated shitfest that s1 was
>>70061734
>and the fact that you wan't your characters to be "likeable" just proves what a colossal pleb you and most of fagboys that dickride the oversimplified and overrated shitfest that s1 was
you do realize that unlikeable doesnt mean "bad people" right? unlikeable means you cant stand watching their shit wether their righteous, heroes or villains, cause their badly written/directed
>>70050459
But that's exactly what they fucking did.
Both seasons are completely standalone stories with completely separate casts. Season 2 was fine, it's just the clowns on /tv/ didn't watch season 1 when it initially aired because everyone was shitting all over that and it's weak-ass ending (DUDE IT WAS THE GARDENER FROM EPISODE 3 ALL ALONG. THE GREEN EARS WERE HIS EAR MUFFS FROM MOWING LAWNS).
No doubt if season 3 gets made, season 2 will be lauded as a masterpiece in hindsight while we all jerk each other off shitting on that.
>>70061853
>you do realize that unlikeable doesnt mean "bad people" right?
yeah, i do
>cause their badly written/directed
explain to me why do you believe the characters of s2 were badly written/directed
>>70050488
while not a popular opinion, season 2 had some merit.
it was just not as cohesive as season 1. season 1 is unmatched as far as tv goes, it was great. season 2 had some good performances, some schlocky dialogue, convoluted ideas, a lot going on behind the curtain that we were supposed to pick up on the first watch at least
it just didn;t work as well, even though i liked when it became lynchian
>>70061962
Everyone seems to hate on the ending of season 2 and I think it just goes to prove how much of a terrible viewer most people must be...
>>70061991
Im bored to write an analysis of 4 fucking characters to prove my point m8
the only interesting one was farrell, the other 3 were just
>lesbian with weird father and a strong womyn too
>gay who wont admit to himself that he's gay omg
>mobster who would be better if he was written as an accountant, considering what his screentime amounted to
though, to be fair, vaughn's character had great potential and the ending of his was good, its just that the inbetween stuff got lost in a fog of bureaucracy/ real estate business/ forced romantic drama with his wife
>>70061962
>No doubt if season 3 gets made, season 2 will be lauded as a masterpiece in hindsight while we all jerk each other off shitting on that.
t. I watch flash and agents of marvel or whatever the fuck its called, too
>>70051978
too fucking bad they completely botched that storyline after focusing on the pictures.
IN THE DUSTY MAY SUN
>>70060374
Your instincts were correct because other people are saying it's bad that you don't even know? It sounds like you don't have instincts, kill yourself you fucking pussy.
>>70053641
literally this. first watch through it was tough to even understand that real estate was the underlying conflict
Both seasons had their problems. The first season was very good and then got bad vs the second season was bad at first and then became very good.
Loved the acting in both seasons though, friends.
>>70054565
2 close 2 season 1
>>70054737
well, she's not the cow, she's the fridge that holds the milk
>>70053096
post them all fampai~~
>no more True Detective
The war was lost
>>70061060
>he also taught writing at like three different colleges
I know. Teaching people the technical side of writing or what makes good writing does not necessarily translate into actually being able to write well. You can't formulate what is or isn't going to speak to people.
I was pretty pissed that McAdam's didn't go nude in Season 2 and they'd probably hire another actress that wouldn't go nude for Season 3. Nothing of value was lost.
>>70061334
>>70061552
These, but to be fair Ray is pretty likable and Ani gets pretty likable, and actually what the fuck they all got likable fuck you guys.
>>70062478
No contract signed
>>70062159
>lesbian with weird father and a strong womyn too
where did you get the idea that she is a lesbian i have no clue, so i'm not even going to get into that
she's a much more complexed character than that
the traumatic experience of her getting raped/drugged when she lived in the commune shaped her as a person and shaped her weird relationships with men
she can't commit to a long term realtionship anymore because she is afraid of something like that happening again
this causes her to be extremely sexually frustrated, because of this she drinks and gambles heavily, and when she does have sex with a dude it's a one-of thing with somebody familiar to her, where she makes her partner do weird shit to her
her fear of men is justified due to her childhood trauma
she's a strong female character done right
>gay who wont admit to himself that he's gay omg
he admits that he's gay he just doesn't wan't other people to know that he's gay
what he want's is to be the perfect example of an american male, ina sense he want's to lead a normal life, but he can't because he's gay
so there's a constant war inside of him between what he wants and what he is
>mobster who would be better if he was written as an accountant, considering what his screentime amounted to
you haven't explained why he's badly written
>>70062259
underrated post
>>70063043
this whole fucking TL;DR post is exactly what im not getting into in this time, though I did read it
the point is, no one had to write long posts to explain the characters in s1 (except maybe for greenears)...if you have to JUSTIFY why something is good, maybe you need to take a step back and reconsider if its ACTUALLY good, or anyone else except you is some pleb who doesnt get shit.
Remember though, youre not talking on FB right now
>>70063507
>or anyone else except you is some pleb who doesnt get shit.
It's exactly this. Notice how you didn't rebut a fucking thing you imbecile.
S2 was good, it wasnt perfect (first season wasnt perfect too, but the ending was 10/10), it played too much with lots of themes. They should've hire one director, maybe the dude who made Boy A and Brooklyn should've direct all the episodes, not two eps, or the one who made repomen (he directed the orgy episode). S2 was modern To Live and Die in L.A. ( that's why they wanted friedkin to direct s2) and s1 was modern True Confessions. Too bad that we won't get s3, because of the faggot critics.
>>70063553
notice how you missed the whole point of my post you fucking plebeian
I bet you enjoy NCIS too
>>70050488
Second post best post
>>70063043
>the traumatic experience of her getting raped/drugged when she lived in the commune shaped her as a person and shaped her weird relationships with men
When did that happen? Did I miss something?
>>70063615
Never seen NCIS, don't have any intention. Nice try though. You still haven't rebutted one thing by the way.
>>70063688
She confesses all of that to Velcoro after they fuck.
>>70063714
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. S2 is truly GOAT even though the whole show will probably get cancelled "for some reason" after it, while after S1 it was hailed as one of the greatest shows out there. Those plebs, amirite?
>>70055749
This is far too high a quality of post to be on this board
>>70063783
S2 isn't GOAT, but it's definitely got a case of
>Those plebs, amirite?
You still haven't rebutted a single point. The show's cancellation is interesting, and news reports are showing Pizza is working on a new show. Oh well.
Season 2 gave us the greatest moment of either season when Colin Farrell went nuts on that kid's dad.
"Fuck. You."
>>70063947
Do you think that such a high quality season could be appreciated by the plebeian masses m8?
Dont bother..S2 is a gift from God for us patricians who can truly study a tv show for years and discover all the subtleties the director/writer wanted to convey in a such a subtle way you would need literally tens of re-watches to discover them.
Afrer all what are good tv shows if not layers upon layers upon layers of information you need literally hundreds of hours of your life to decipher? Its not like this visual medium needs to make its point subtle but at the same time straight enough where you kind of get it but need maybe a second viewing to actually get into it entirely...that shit's for redditors tbqhwym
>>70064051
>If you ever bully another kid again, I'll come back and butt fuck your father with your mother's headless corpse on this god damned lawn.
What did he mean by that?
>>70064230
he meant that pizza is as edgy and clueless as that kid who wrote the "teleports behind you" copypasta
>>70051978
it was the psychosphere
>>70064138
>could be appreciated by the plebeian masses m8?
Speaking frankly, no.
>you would need literally tens of re-watches to discover them.
I have only ever watched S2 once - when it aired.
>Afrer all what are good tv shows if not layers upon layers upon layers of information you need literally hundreds of hours of your life to decipher?
Yeah if you're an idiot maybe.
> Its not like this visual medium needs to make its point subtle but at the same time straight enough where you kind of get it but need maybe a second viewing to actually get into it entirely...that shit's for redditors tbqhwym
That's hilarious given that most people to this day don't understand Rust's character from S1, let alone COMPLETELY ignore everything eh had to say in the first five episodes in favor "wow that shootout was amazing."
>>70053641
>>70053691
Yeah I thought the motif could have worked. There was the real estate stuff but then there was all the creepy LA elite sex parties with illuminati-esque imagery and human trafficking that I thought was an awesome counterpart to S1.
S1 was a dirty muddy nightmare in the bayou and south Texas with creepy naturalistic voodoo imagery.
When the trailers started coming out for S2 I thought they were going to invert that and have the horror unfold in a glitzy sleazy LA at night type atmosphere, and the connecting tissue was the detectives and the conspiracies and mysteries. I actually recall reading that Pizza Pie's original outlines were much more focused on the creepy LA sex conspiracy stuff and the Real Estate angle wasn't at the forefront.
After seeing S2 though I think the number one problem is that Season 1 was a story that Pizza had been developing a long time, it was intricate and well-thought out because it was a story Pizza already wanted to tell. But Season 2 was cooked up to try and recreate that, and it just wasn't all the way there. And OTHER PROBLEM is that Cary Fukunaga is a fantastic director who probably played an integral part in creating the identity of Season 1 and Pizza's ego probably fucked up season 2.
TL;DR: Season 2 had the ingredients of a great show IMO but it was rushed and fumbled.
Someone post the pizza pie edit of the S2 opening theme song.
>>70062156
DUDE DEPRESSING BAD END LMAO
Doesn't substitute a well written story.
>>70063507
>no one had to write long posts to explain the characters in s1
ofc they didn't, bcs they were simple characters, in a simple story, made for simple minds
everyhting about the two main "characters" is spelled out, shoved in your face so you don't have to decide,or figure out anything about them for yourself
>if you have to JUSTIFY why something is good, maybe you need to take a step back and reconsider if its ACTUALLY good, or anyone else except you is some pleb who doesnt get shit.
the only reason i'm justifying it is because i disagree with you're claim that it was badly written
i state why i think it's good, you do the opposite
it's called discussion
and every claim about anythng needs to be justified
>>70050488
I hate this meme
>>70060262
this
>>70061060
Teaching doesn't mean he's good at creating. Fuck the amount of lines and other shit he clearly ripped off from other better writers should have made people apprehensive about him from day one.
>>70064317
>TL;DR: Season 2 had the ingredients of a great show IMO but it was rushed and fumbled.
this, it also missed garry
THE WAR IS LOST
THE TREATY SIGNED
I WAS NOT CUUCKED
ACROSS THE LAND
>>70064311
wtf im agreeing with you m8
and I agree with everything you said in this post..plebs ruin everything, you dont have to go off on me for that. Im on your side
>>70064377
Dont bother bro, most of these kids dont even have a justification for their opinions. They will just spout "SEASON 1 IZ BETTAH" just cause that's what most people think, when in reality season 2 is vastly superior.
>>70050641
Check out the guys who made it anon
>http://www.antibody.tv/projects.html
They make alot great stuff. But I don't think they could ever make something as perfect as TD season 1 opening.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyu_MdKBXic
Pure kino
>>70064473
But I'm not agreeing with those sentiments. If a TV show necessitates hundreds of hours dedicated to analyzing its most basic things like character development (i.e. Ani's acceptance that there are good men) then there's a problem. But TDS2 doesn't need that much time to get what it's about, the problem is audiences are fucking morons that much we can agree.
I honestly thought you were the other guy false flagging my bad matey. Have Paul's qt Mexican wife.
>>70050414
But I'm watching it right now
FROM MY MUSTY GAY SON
>>70054937
What did you mean by this?
>>70064535
>when in reality season 2 is vastly superior.
No it wasn't.
A tv series is first and foremost a visual medium, and a series with a single(and very good) director handling all the episodes and the editing already puts TD1 at a great advantage.
The acting of Vaughn also detracts a lot from TD2, the series is unfocused and in the end has to rip off from fucking Chinatown for the last to final TWEEST about the diamond robbery.
Don't take me wrong, I still think second season is better than whatever is airing on tv RIGHT NOW and still better than 90% of the crime drama done on tv, but I wouldn't say it's as well made as the first season.
>>70064377
Different guy here: I actually liked the characters in Season 2, I just think they were wasted in a weak story. I understand that season 2 "makes sense" but it's not engrossing, it's not a mystery that draws you in the way Season 1 did. Season 1 had a brilliant way of hooking you and making you obsess over the story, AND it had stellar characters and amazing cinematography.
If Pizza was setting out to try something new with S2, then fine. I don't hate it, I think it might even be a cult hit if the first season never happened, but S1 was lightning in a bottle, I just don't think they're in the same league.
>>70064568
Just think that tv shows are made for the retard girl you had in your class in high school...then it all makes sense.
We're literally being dragged down so the uneducated retarded masses can be entertained and it pisses me off if im being honest.
What saddens me is that those uneducated masses even dare to argue us on /tv/ of all places. This is a very bad sign, for me a least
>>70064669
>t. pleb
>>70064611
No you fucking retard it's
FROM THE DUSTY MESA
>>70064767
You really convinced me with those hot opinions.
>>70064611
THE LOOMING FAGGOT GROWS
this is when you use your memes irresponsibly. TD S02 was great show(even if someone thinks S01 was better, s02 was so above anything that aired at the time( , but you had to be contrarian, then those retards on reddit started to imitate this bullshit, and from reddto to The Forbes and from Forbes to normies...
This is why we cant have a nice things.
You shit on good stuff, because its cool, you praise crap, because you think you look wise and smart because you see something in the crap noone else sees.
GOT is good show,Hannibal is too slow, Fargo is one hit wonder(first season was ok, second was worst than TD2, TWD was never good, its guns'n'gore porn,Penny Dreadfull is good, all seasons of IASIP are good to great, Senfield was start to become really good at s07, BoJack is trash, Archer is best animated show at the moment,Vikings are great show but they will die the moment Ragnar leaves the show, The Flash,izombie,Gotham,Arrow,Supernatural,Lost are below manure tier shows only retards without taste watch.
All Star Wars sequels suck, its just a flick for 12 y/o, just like Indiana Jones .
Trudno bit Bogom (Hard to be a God)is impossible to understand if you didnt read the book.
Kino is theatre on couple of European languagues, there is NO OTHER MEANING FOR THAT WORD, same goes for Film,Flick,Movie, Moving Pictures(you can literally say Art Flick and you wont be wrong).
Fuck you, neo/t/v/irgins.
>>70064669
there it is again
again thinking that tv episode directors have a significant impact on the final product
when in reality, even though they direct the scenes an the actors, they direct them in a way the show's creator tells them to, whether it be Pizzolatto, Milch, Simon or whoever,
in a way those directors are being directed themselves
and one director doesn't equal higher quality, because deadwood, the wire, the sopranos had tones of different directors,yet were still great , and better(by leaps and bounds) than season 1
also:
>thinking fukunaga is a """very good""" director
yeah, that's it i'm done
i thought from the start that you are a colossal pleb, and i was right, because holy shit did you just prove it with that statement
>>70065320
Now that the Rust has settled i think we can agree Season 1 was all Fukunaga's skill.
>>70061734
>yeah because an asshole that cheats on his wife
Understandable.
> his alcoholic fedora tipping buddy that later on proceeds to fuck his friends wife are such likeable people
A lot of alcoholics are enjoyable to be around and he was drunk as fuck when the wife took advantage of him.
>>70065407
wait so, pizzolato was on a lucky streak during the whole first season but shat the bed during the whole second one?
>>70065507
He was absolutely integral to it at the least. That shot with the birds after they introduce Rust's lingering visual disturbances from his time undercover was so great. Same episode as that still you posted right?
I think it's overreacting to say it was all Fukunaga but it a was a perfect marriage of story, visuals, characters, and actors. Season 2 is okay, but the people in this thread arguing that it's superior to season 1 are retarded contrarians.
>>70050618
>he call them "the True Detectives"
>>70061962
No, idiot.
The green ears was from painting the house.
>>70064611
IMAGINE CATS BECOME
TO DRAG AWAY YOUR BOY
>>70050414
>my dream TD season set in 1950's Hawaii with Bruce Cambell and Ken Watanabe will never be made
fuck this shit world
I think the thing which ruined season 2 was straying away from the "2 detectives" formula
That should be the "theme" of the show desu, just 2 detectives solving cases and the dynamics between them
>>70050775
HBO hasn't made a decent show in years. FX is the quality cable station now.
>>70066417
you might say that it should be about twro detectives
>>70066479
If you ever say that again, I'm going to come back here and buttfuck you with Pizza's headless corpse on this goddamned Mongolian woodcarvings forum.
>>70066479
are you joking? pizzolato has literally said on interviews that he named it "true detective" because it sounds familiar to 2 detectives
>>70050414
but season 2 wasnt even that bad, it was just too edgy and different from the last one. the focus was on the characters, not the crimes. what bs
>>70065320
>hannibal is too slow
stopped reading before anything else even caught my eye
only thing season 2 did wrong was not having McConaughey
>They didn't watch the Ani becomes a London beat cop spin off
Wew
>>70066875
desu he's right if he's talking about the first few episodes in season 3
although I didn't mind because it's just pure telévino to watch
AWARDS WERE LOST
>>70067286
This scene is so aggravating considering she uses none of the training she's supposed to have had. It's quite actually putting a pretty girl in a police officer's uniform and then watching her take on a gang of thugs. Completely takes me out of the moment.
>>70067436
Sadly they don't allow UK officers to carry
>Muh knives
NEVERMIND
>>70067854
nah chill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl6MCWMU8aE
So why don't you guys like season 2?
I really thought the characters and memes were much better.
>>70067436
So its a commentary on how lowering military/firefighter/police training standards for muh equality will actually result in weak idiots being in positions where they're a danger to themselves and others? Wow, that's pretty clever!
>>70068051
worse characters, rusts schopenhauerianism and martys normalfaggotry was more interesting than the four, though the fat pussy subplot was entertaining
worse atmosphere, eerie louisiana atmosphere became LA, demonic pedophile cult clans became old guys who liked getting their dick wet
intro wasn't as good either
>>70068239
>gay operator cop didn't make it
He deserved better bros
>>70068540
>scene with his mother
Jesus FUCKING Christ he deserved better.
>>70068594
So she molested him, right? At one point?
>>70068711
I mean, probably.
>>70053621
Audrey was most likely rapt but she was definitely groomed by the Esoteric Order of Hastur just like Dory Lange was.
>>70064285
Stop saying shit like you can smell a psycho's fear.
>>70055265
this sounds great actually.
