WHAT WAS MARVEL THINKING?!?
>>70038914
Who is more based than Evans? Anyone?
>>70038914
Your drug is a heartbreaker.
Modern comics are fucking trash. Stick to the old shit and watch the movies.
How can anyone even care when in a year something else will come along and retcon it and then in another year something will destroy the whole Marvel universe only for it to be rebooted once again?
Marvel and DC only make comics for shock value now. And nothing will please liberal faggot more than the embodiment of American goodness to become a Nazi when Donald Trump becomes president.
>>70039038
if anyone still reads weeklies and hasnt come to terms with this fact its basically their own fault. grant morrison open and closed the book on the constantly shifting writer/artist, single story arc vs greater lifespan of a character debate in animal man in 1988
>>70039038
This is all MCU plebs who don't read comics and aren't familiar with this clickbait bullshit
Comics were always like that, cheap cliffhangers to make you buy the next issue, false covers to make you buy and see what actually happens...
>>70039010
This
>>70039347
>MCU plebs
>implying anyone that watches the movies reads the comics
There's a reason sales haven't gone up since they started doing the movies
>>70039156
what did he on Animal Man?
can you summarized?
he'll be a good guy again in like 2 weeks, this shit is so predictable
the saddest thing about this is that Marvel actually thinks this is "shocking" enough to be a big twist that draws in readers
>>70039430
they are dumb for doing in it the first issue, finish a story arc first than start gimmicky shock event.
>>70038914
Can a nigga get some context?
I'm calling it right now.
MCU spins it so that Hydra was the good guys all along
>>70038992
BASED
COMICFAGS BTFO
>>70039465
>it's another universe reboot
Call me a weeb but that's what the japanese do better. They either go full retarded and let a manga go on for 10 years or stop when they told the story they wanted to tell.
The constant rebooting is just a cop out since the writers are not allowed to write original stories or come up with new characters.
>>70039518
Oh.
Well its kind of neat that Evans pays attention to the comics
>>70039558
a lot of news outlets reported about it. I dont know shit about comics but I found out.
>>70038914
lol Marvel's so cucked their fucking up their only good super hero
>>70039558
It was a pretty big story, lot's of people who don't read comics heard about it anyways.including me
>>70039430
It pretty much will. Likely to sell an additional 10,000 comics thanks to the controversy. That being said, comic book sales are in the absolute dumps, and have been for decades. Minor boosts when a movie comes out, but they're pathetic and primarily used as advertisements for toys and other mediums now. If things don't get better soon I wouldn't be surprised if they scrap print sales and switch entirely to digital in the next decade.
>>70039589
>a lot of news outlets reported about a picture book for kids
fuck this gay earth
>>70038914
>damn, sales are low. what will annoy and or piss people off?
>let's kill off X and make it a legacy character!
>oh we can make an epic twist where good guy was bad the whole time
>we can just say it was an LMD later, no one cares!
>what? A good book with a solid storyline isn't selling that well?!?!?! Better cancel it
>>70039518
This is obviously leading into some stupid story arc, just a way of getting buzz so people buy issue two. Anyone who reads deeper into it is either retarded or a troll. So yeah, a retard on both fronts.
>>70039415
Animal man had an existential break down before fading out of existence.
And then he was rebooted with a brand new shiny #1 and a quirky kid side kick
>>70039430
Im pretty sure they're gonna go with Red Skull used Xavier's powers to implant some false memories into Cap of him and his mother being indoctrinated into HYDRA back in the 20s, making Steve think he's a HYDRA sleeper agent.
Remember in the Star Wars comic where Han Solo had a black wife all during ANH?
JK, 5 issues later it's revealed she was just lying.
>>70038970
upvoted, you just triggered my nostalgia for garages, dungeons and dragons and kitty pryde
>>70039885
kek it was actually revealed today that she's a lesbian. Thanks Marvel/Disney.
>>70038914
I WILL NOT GO
>>70039010
I honestly dont know who reads comics after the mid 90s, or why.
Everything is fucked up and convoluted. Most of the stories are just shock cash grabs. Its like in the 90s where they tried to "kill" off main characters. But now its like Super Man is now a black woman who is actually a bisexual Moon-kin.
>>70039721
sounds interesting, is it true Grant Morrison two best books are Doom Patrol and Animal Man and everything after is meh?
>>70039430
One of the higher up has literally said people buy their stuff more when it is something they hate
>>70040056
i dont think you know anything about comic books, the only character they "killed off" was superman, he dosent represent comic books. and superman is still a white male kryptonian.
>>70039518
Why is the art so ugly ?
>>70038914
They're only did this because it debuted on the same day DC's Rebirth did. It's a good publicity stunt (twitter went crazy on this), though it will bite them in the ass in the long run, since people talking about comics Cap don't actually buy or read comics. He will come back to being a good guy via some stupid shenanigans, and nobody will give a fuckjust like nobody cares about Marvel comic books anyway
>>70039347
I was way into comics in the late 80s and most of the 90s.
Modern comics are worst. Kids dont even like comics anymore, DC and Marvel basically went bankrupt both financially and creatively. People who read comics now are worse than girls who wear a groot t-shit, like the MCU and cant name all the Avengers in the movie. At least I can say they have some taste.
>>70040123
yes he did, this is why i stopped reading and buying comics.
This is just like when they announced a few years ago that Wolverine was dying for good. Whatever happened to that?
>>70039679
>LMD
what did he mean by this?
>>70040239
marvel comics have been drawn by talentless hacks for a while now.
>>70039912
that's one of the worst songs I've ever heard
>>70039518
>Cap a nazi
>Wally returns
>>70040309
still dead.
he was replaced by alternate future Wolverine from Old Man Logan.
and his female clone has taken the Mantle of Wolverine.
>>70040138
Flash, Jean Grey, a Robin, I'm pretty sure Peter Parker died in the Clone Saga, then came back, although I couldnt keep track of which was the real one.
Comics are literal fucking soap operas. Getting pissed over a plot twist that was only created out of desperation is beyond retarded. He is being controlled by Red Skull, it will be undone probably within five months of the first arc from the comic. Who the fuck cares
>>70040416
So, Wolverine is still around technically. And it's safe to say they'll buckle in a few years or so and bring back the original. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, after all.
>>70040356
why can they fire Greg Land.
he has improved though, these faces don't like porn orgasms.
>>70040283
>check this guy on Google
>find his wiki page
>those last lines on the summary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Brevoort
Which of you did this?
>>70040438
The Flash and Robin II both died in the 80s bud.
Dude what if Spidey and Doc Ock swapped minds lmao
>Audiences yearn for actually heroic characters in this age where every hack writer thinks he's being subversive and original by writing another anti-hero or making the twist that the good guy is the villain
>Nah's let's just keep doing the same thing we've been doing for close to 30 years over which coincidentally our sales have dangerously decline
>>70040438
Let's not forget the Superior Spider Man arc. On the other hand, maybe we should.
>>70039038
B-b-but muh marvel never does reboots
>>70040502
>Brevoort and Spencer apparently did not see the issue with taking such a character and making him a Nazi, doing it simply as shock value. [7] He apparently had no problem with this disrespect for the Jewish creators, to say nothing of how the children and fans, both Jewish and non-Jewish, would be betrayed by doing such damage to a beloved character.
>It would seem to be another factor in Marvel's unfortunate anti-semitic trend, which has been getting more concerning over the past few years
>>70040542
Couldn't they have saved that for Thanos ?
>>70040542
Goddammit, this makes me mad.
Why did you have to ruin my pure husbando, Marvel? ;_;
>>70040343
Life Model Decoy.
Not sure if a clone or an android but either way something that mimics the person it's replacing.
>>70040702
Chris Evans demanded more money and they decided to fuck him in the ass
tfw in the issue Evil Cap threw Jack Flag out of a plane without shooting him
>>70040761
Say it ain't so, Cap.
>>70040761
And that's bad?
>>70040795
>more money
Both ScarJo and RDJ got way more than him in Avengers 2. RDJ got 40 mil, SJ got 20 mil, he and Renner got 6 each. Now Downey is asking for 200 for the next Avengers movie.
>people are getting mad at based Nick Spencer
Get out plebs
The Fix and Superior Foes are some of the best written comics released over the past few years, I'm genuinely shocked that people are mad about this. Can you not predict that inevitable twist back to status quo or are you all retarded?
>>70040813
Get away from me you subhuman.
>>70040795
>and they decided to fuck him in the ass
I don't blame them desu
>>70040056
Punisher's best stuff came out after the 90's though.
>>70040857
>this writer is good
>don't you see this writer is obviously doing a shitty publicity stunt
All comic writing is shit. There's a reason they write comics and not some other medium where you might actually make money.
>>70040761
DROPPED
>>70040542
This is why the MCU is doing so well and that DC cinematic universe is off to a rocky start.
>Marvel
>>70041221
>that last panel
I shouldn't be laughing this hard.
>>70041221
>thinking
>>70040857
Also, Nick Spencer has become a total cuck since Superior Foes ended. Steve Lieber was the only thing keeping him in check.
Reminder that his wife was behind the mansplaining page.
>>70040542
how long until Marvel copies DC Rebirth.
sales where so low at DC, that they had to undue New 52.
>>70040356
holy fucking shit. why are they hiring dudes who obviously trace lmao
>>70041284
>dat 3x3 paneling
>>70038914
I'll provide some context
>What's with the story?
SJW leftist writer makes a fanfic about Red Skull being Donald Trump. Red Skull has stolen Professor X powers few years ago and is obviously using them to alter Steve's memories to serve HYDRA agenda. In the end of this arc Steve will inevitably regain composure and will defeat the Skull. "Moral" of the story is thae transparent propaganda message about true America being "brainwashed" by Trump and that no "sane" person will side with him
>Why editors are on board whith this shit?
Controversies like that, along with shitty reboots and character replacements are their only way of keeping comics medium "alive". Also story panders to leftists who've invaded the medium in 2000's.
>>70041321
Because they either actually deliver art on time or they know someone higher-up in the company. Google "Greg Land porn faces" some time.
>>70041273
>terabytes of power
I feel a little triggered here
None of you faggots even read the comics so why do you care? Just stick to your Disney films.
fabulous!
>>70041454
I read comics, no bully please.
>>70038970
My love is a life taker
>>70038914
Explain this to me.
>>70041478
They're such a clusterfuck, why don't you just switch to manga? They even have capeshit if that's what you want.
>>70041413
>>terabytes of power
>I feel a little triggered here
Imagine how few parsecs the Kessel run would take...
>>70041511
>you can only read one or the other
I own hundreds of euros worth of manga, anon.
>>70041454
I read doujins and jojo.
>>70041273
Spencer was still a hack with a political agenda when he was writing Superior Foes bro.
>>70041558
Point. A-at least she's supposed to be a villain though, right?
Gambit movie when
>tfw channing tatum is attached
Whyyyyyy
>>70041398
>leftists who've invaded the medium in 2000's.
Oh Jesus, you can't actually believe this, can you? That's when left-leaning politics became prominent in comics? THE 2000's?
>>70041558
Didn't Spencer work for Shillary?
>>70041636
Never.
That movie was announced like 10 years ago and Tatum is the only one holding the entire thing together.
>>70040852
> Now Downey is asking for 200 for the next Avengers movie.
Is this a joke? I can't believe this, how could one human bean be possibly so greedy?
>>70040650
>saved
hes said it in all 3 movies
it's a captain america thing, not an avengers thing.
>>70041409
>muh homage
>muh references
>>70041648
You can't deny that comics have always been a mixture of left and right ideologies and attitudes. Batman and Iron Man are traditionally political right superheroes, Green Arrow and Spider-Man are left. Cap fluctuates depending on what writer is in charge, Superman is apolitical.
2000's is when SJWs came in masse and comics turned into radical-left liberal shitfest.
>>70041754
http://www.inquisitr.com/2483023/avengers-infinity-war-budget-is-1-billion-robert-downey-jr-pay-cheque-is-insane/
wait, so cap was secretly hydra for the last 60 years since ww2 but did nothing?
>>70041754
What do people even do with all that money? All I want is a comfy home to shitpost on 4chan in.
>>70041798
It would be unfortunate if they can't make that money back.
>>70041798
he is not asking for 200m he simply has a different contract than the others which gives him a certain % of the total gross, the more a movie makes with him the more he gets
>>70041838
But that's hardly even a possibility at this point.
>>70040360
>Not liking the Blue Album
It's like you hate fun
>>70041780
>>70041284
They don't have a Watchmen to do it with.
>>70039683
>This is obviously leading into some stupid story arc, just a way of getting buzz so people buy issue two. Anyone who reads deeper into it is either retarded or a troll. So yeah, a retard on both fronts.
You underestimate how stupid Marvel and DC can get with their comics. There's been 50+ years of content so often times you get crazy shit just because they want to write something different and know stupid shit will get publicity.
Cap could go 100% Hydra villain for the next year before it gets retconned and it wouldn't even scratch the top 10 list of stupidest things to happen in comics.
>Feige: we'll cancel the Inhuman movie
>Perlmutter: well.. we make Cap Hydra
Round 1 goes to Perlmutter
>>70042130
do it with Powers
>>70041895
This, his contract pays him a percentage of projected gross or something and the number just ends up being really high because MCU movies tend to make money
Literally jew propaganda making Donald Trump, nationalism look bad, they want open borders and more people/countries accepting even more refugees , just read the comic and get to the part to the " red skull rally " hes talking about nationalism but then in the next page they make it look bad by mixing it with neo-nazi-scum and even Isis
I'm not even memeing, just look at the pages
They are going to fix Steve Rogers "nationalismn" as the issues progress
>make steve bad
>le black cap will save the day
i like falcon sure but his outfit sucks and the shoehorning sucks.
At least Evans will get his time to shine
>>70038914
>>70042553
she's got a point
>>70039518
>/co/ actually defending this to spite movie fags
>but have a shit fit for Dr Manhattan creating the New 52
i want off all these rides
>>70038970
Rustle my jimmies
>>70042553
>>70042641
I don't get it.
>>70042641
Geeks are a culture of peace
#notallgeeks
>>70042641
>she
>>70041558
So she wants to be the most openly corrupt drug lord??
>>70038914
All this noise. Has the mcu turned cap into this generation's superman?
>>70042962
Well he is the epitome of goodness.
>>70043017
He is Jimmy Carter
>>70043106
Does that mean he's Rorschach approved?
>>70042962
those people who are so butthurt about the Hydra twist are afraid of their own medicine now
all the time they praised Cap as the perfect character without any flaws (which he basically is to a degree), they were shitting on other characters, pointing out how terrible they are etc etc and now the trolling from the other side begins and they just can't take it, so they go into full panic mode
>>70043138
Haha that is one way of putting it.
>>70038931
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME
Has evans said something about giving Cap a boyfriend?
>>70038914
>>70042962
Got back into working out just to obtain 1/8 of the body Chris has. Captain America has literally improved my health
>>70043332
Confirmed for Perlmutter dickery.
Also this, I believe our based Chris is reading it.
>>70043410
Me too anon. Also I was with friends and this guy dropped his stuff and I went and helped him. We would usually just laugh.
>>70040056
Majority of film storylines come from 2000+
>>70040056
Mateo, there's some great stuff. Just read the great stuff and leave the rest.
>>70041837
Imagine, a monitor for every thread and board you shit post in....9 would be my max, 3x3
saw this last night and thought it was fucking shit Tbh
I didn't even know who the villain was or what he wanted, what the relevance of the other winter soldiers were etc
>>70043867
You saw the tweet? The tweet didn't have winter soldiers anon. I think you might be loopy anon.
>>70043906
thought this was a civil war thread, my mistake
>>70043867
>I didn't even know who the villain was
His name and former occupation were right there on the screen, anon.
>or what he wanted
He explained that too.
>what the relevance of the other winter soldiers were
They were a red herring.
>etc
Do go on.
>>70038970
top lad
>>70041409
That fucking Iron man heart attack one always cracks me up
Prove him wrong. You can't.
Just another shitty story.
Everything will go back to normal with time. Just like when Captain America died.
Comicshit is seriously bad. No wonder they dont sell much at all.
>>70044119
I know he's supposed to be like an insane villain and shit, but yeah, he's right.
>>70044126
It's vicious circle born out of stupidity of authors
>Medium is objectively becoming more and more obsolete in modern world
>Instead of writing good stories authors of both Marvel and DC produce clickbait shit
>Readers feel offended and don't want to read this shit anymore
>Comics sell even less
>Authors come up with another "genius" clickbait idea
>...
>>70041221
>>70041273
http://www.newsarama.com/29463-yup-marvel-now-is-an-earth-shattering-status-quo-shift.html
Marvel NOW!!!
>>70044235
But how can they be so obtuse as to think this is going to work?
>>70044235
If I was Marvel or Disney I'd put together a neat graphic novel of the movie characters to compliment the movies and fill some gaps and I'd hire some decent writer if there is one.
They're missing out on cashing in on the normies and casuals.
>>70044119
I never thought I would agree with the red skull of all people, but everything he's saying there is accurate. Like literally factually provable, documented and accurate.
>>70042272
If it was Perlmutter plan then it backfired horribly.
It only ensured that people will prefer movies with consistent and genuinely sympathetic characterizations to comics with convoluted mess of continuity and constant shitting all over fans
>>70044170
>>70044284
Congrats, that means you're Nazi sympathisers.
>>70041409
He can't keep getting away with it!
>>70044329
Better than being an SJW sympathiser liek you, nu-male
>>70038914
Is he making fun of BvS?
>>70044170
>>70044284
This new Skull was deliberately based on Trump you know
>>70044514
actually h sounds a lot more like a terrorist telling a bunch of idiots to put on vests. I see that maybe the writer thought he was writing Trump but its literally ending up with a guy putting on a suicide vest which isnt a Trump thing. Aside from that it is very much more like a lot of the Nat Soc parties in Europe.
I don't read or care about comics but this is stupid
>>70044607
Well, Trump and ISIS was the influence, I guess he merged them both
>>70044329
So?
>>70044274
>>70044276
Marvel comics, like DC comics, is controlled by retards. The only reason why MCU movies are good is because Feige censors them and avoids modern Marvel comics faggotry like plague. If only he controlled TV shows as well...
>>70039484
How arent they the good guys already? Did you not notice that Hydra had been in charge for a very long time and the world did not end, only when Hydra gets found out/exposed do things go really bad. Hydra literally did nothing wrong. The worst part about Hydra is when Hacks like Zemo or the serpent fetishist try to take over it. SHIELD is objectively worse than Hydra.
>>70044119
i can. refugees are not an invading army.
>>70040056
you are on the wrong side of history
>>70040356
>>70041321
even Sheev has been disgraced
>>70038992
KEK
What a cuck.
>>70041536
>>>>>paying for manga
>>70045259
>not buying hardcover editions of everything you like so you can show them off
Do you even have any friends?
>>70045010
muh phoenix was amazing
>>70040283
Comics are dead. Their cadaver is hooked on outrage machine that zaps it and makes it twitch. You can't really judge their methods like you'd judge living franchise.
>>70045313
>buying shitty western published releases
>not importing them
Might as well read scanlations
>>70038914
At least he's not gay amirite?
>>70045427
>Might as well read scanlations
But I do. How do you think I decide what to buy?
>>70045147
What did Ben Shapiro do? Who is he? He must be an ass if based Evans wants to end him.
>>70041754
RDJ doesn't want to be in the movies anymore, but they won't let him leave so he'll keep demanding more and more ludicrous amounts of money in the hope that they say no but instead they're agreeing to it
>>70038914
>marvel
>thinking
>>70039524
Neon Genesis Evangelion.
>>70043460
HAHAHAHAH. That's fucking hilarious. Evan's face. I really wanna know what happened after.
>>70045553
He's not even in the movies that much since he got that face double cgi'd in in Iron Man 3 wasn't it?
>>70042673
that's cause /Co/ is infested with marvelfags
>>70045313
> making friends exclusively through hard cover mangoes
Really?
>>70045646
What?
>>70045546
He said Jason Collins, a retired NBA player, wasn't a hero for coming out when was still playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kre1LwyMUFI
>>70042689
Nerds are generally little shits that need to be beaten up.
>>70044119
Well, he is right.
>>70045743
he could be less of an ass but he didn't really say anything terrible. It's his voice.
>>70045938
he's a practicing jew
Be honest tho, isnt this better than seeing him turn into some SJW queer transfaggot?
>>70044119
>be some marvel intern writer tasking with writing evil red skull speech
>watch some Trump speeches as inspo because evil racist n shit
>accidentally end up redpilling myself
>turn red skull into good guy
>>70045147
shapiro is turbocuck tho
>>70045609
True, but still probably has to do voice acting.
>>70046362
How the fuck is Shapiro of all people a turbocuck?
>>70046522
>muh Trump is pure racist evil
>>70038950
Jeremy Renner
>>70046371
> RDJ is the highest paid voice actor in history
Reality is weird sometimes.
>>70038992
I've been looking at this for 3 minutes longer than I should have.
>>70040542
>this line has no significance because nobody remembers anything from Cap 1
>>70046779
I remember everything.
>>70040542
That's what DC rebirth is all about
>>70041837
Well he could just give out a scholarship grant to fund everyone's projects for the future or something of that nature.
Can someone explain?
>>70042641
>she
>>70040813
Get out
>>70038950
You guys realize Evans apologized profusely for the sluts remark and is a staunch liberal, right?
>>70039639
A LOT of major news outlets reported on the death of superman arc back in the 90s.
And Captain America wasnt made for kids originally, it was made to be morale boosting propaganda for the GIs over seas. Sorry to burt your oh so mature bubble there, faggot, but comics have been for both kids and adults since forever.
>>70047108
So? You fucking fallout fans trying to make Evans less based. BAKA.
>>70044119
>>70044170
>>70044284
This what the red skull always does, he spouts shallow rhetoric to get the attention of the masses. Ultimately he doesn't give a shit about what's happening in Europe, if he wants to kill muslims he'll kill muslims wherever they are.
>>70038914
Hydra is redpilled is fuck though. Captain America is right.
>>70044119
Based Skull dropping truth bombs.
>>70047581
You know in an arc like this where Red Skull somehow hijacks Xavier's powers and takes control of America, it should be Captain Britain's job to take down the Red Skull and make Steve Rogers submit to Allah.
>>70047629
She's on it.
>>70047581
How can anyone reading this think he's wrong or 'evil'? It's wrong to be nationalistic now?
>>70047811
If you're on the far left, hell yes its wrong to be nationalistic
>>70045609
i thought the joke of iron man 3 was, that the real title should be regular man because we see him so much?
>>70044329
but so are Captain America fans now lel
>>70047888
Why?
>>70048122
Libcucks are retarded.
>>70038914
>Caring about any Marvel reveals after Clone Saga
Anyone who thinks it won't get phased out after the ratings show a drop is stupid.
>>70047657
Tell me that's fake. Please.
>>70048498
Welcome to 2016, and hell
>>70038950
>literally doing the Hitler Salute
>HAHA HAIL HYDRA!
>>70048498
>>70048594
DELETE THIS
>>70048612
Is Union Jack still a priveleged, white, scary paramilitary?
>>70041409
>p-pornface is WRONG!!
>it's SEXIST!
Back to Tumblr, you whiny little faggot. Comics aren't for girls.
>>70045965
Well, fuck him then.
>>70048655
why?!
>>70048612
What team is this? The Stronk Womyn POC Avengers?
Christ, they're really cringe-inducingly obvious about this shit.
>>70048612
And this is why comics are trash. It's not about adventures and moral lessons for the kids, it's all just political agendas now.
>>70048850
The irony that turning them all female and black is being just as sexist/racist as the original team was lost to them long ago. This is the future we have to long forward to.
>>70048122
because literally hitler. you think it was america that has been influential in ideology these last 100 years?
>>70045147
ben shapiro is a sell out jew
>>70048872
Yeah, they are trash. We're now in the age where if you want to see your favorite character faithfully recreated and behaving how you know them to, you're actually better off only watching the movies.
There are some exceptions, of course. But I'd say the movies are the closest, even with the alterations they make to costumes or whatever.
>>70048872
Captain America was ALL about political agenda when it started though, and so was Supes during WWII.
It's not a new thing, by no means, it's just that agendas are a bit different
someone should shop this right before Hail Hydra
>>70049167
Supes was all fun morale boosting shit.
Cap was always very obviously politically charged tho
>>70047333
>filthy weebs trying to make Evans based
Kek
>>70047108
>I am sorry that this tasteless joke about a fictional character offended anyone
He said he was sorry you're such a pussy.
B A S E D
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>>70049456
Jeremy Renner said that you dumb fuck.
>>70049456
that was Renner though, Evans was pretty beta
