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>>69791787
Dayne expects to lose edition
>>69796579
First for Maisie.
>>69796579
He's really sexy god damn
>>69796579
He's outnumbered like 5 to one of course he expects to lose. It's not anime.
miss me yet?
>>69796610
If howland hadn't throat fucked him he would've won though...
>>69796579
Was dual-wielding part of your plan?
>>69796610
It's not anime It's Star Wars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTJEZXtr94
Did anyone actually enjoy the epic twist of dany pushing over the torches?
>>69796610
Rhaeger told him to lose, for the muh prophecy.
>>69796649
How would he have known that at the start of the fight?
what?
>>69796621
>STANNIS THE GRANNIS
>>69796680
It wasn't that so much as her immunity to fire that irks me.
>>69796661
thats a proppa fit slag m8
>>69796680
Reddit and Tumblr does
>>69796649
Yes, a lot of surprises can happen on the battlefield.
>>69796661
She look so much better in real life. And she was already cute in the show. But it's still a little shocking how great she looks.
>>69796661
So fucking cute i miss her
>Christmas morning
>Run downstairs and begin tearing open my presents
>Its a Salsa action figure
>I'm super happy and super excited
>I tear it out of the packaging
>Tear off my mickey mouse pantaloons
>Tear off the Huggies brand nappy my mum put on me last night
>Shove Salsa action figure deep into my rectum
>"Winter has come" I say
>>69796680
I really liked the first time Dany rose from fire with her dragons.
This one is just a shitty rehash of the same thing.
>>69796717
does that show that the HBO writers have completely strayed from GRRM's canon with this new season?
Cast him
Ramsay cock lover here to remind the stannis filth
>Stannis lost to an imp
>Stannis lost to 20 men
>Lost to Ramsay
>Burned his daughter
>Fucked up twice
>Failed
>>69796680
contrived but i'll let it slide. this season is more crib notes than the other seasons with lack of source material.
>>69796695
5v2 isn't very daunting when you are arguably the greatest swordsman to have ever lived, especially when your number two is a kings guard also renowned for fighting prowess and your opponents are cucks by comparison. Only Ned has any real skill and even Bran notices he can't compare to Dayne.
I don't think he expected to lose, I think he's just not a cocky prick.
Promise me, Ned
>>69796790
Sandor Clegane
>>69796798
anyone would lose to the twenty good men though. I'm looking forward to them crushing both Jon's army and Ramsay's (they turn on him to fulfill the prophecy)
>>69796621
i miss you my king :(((
>>69796724
>battlefield
Hotpie pls go
>>69796790
Arya catches a rat for dinner whilst homeless in Braavos
>>69796661
You seemed to have posted the wrong image.
>>69796680
I was confused at first. Because I thought she actually had a plan. And I thought it was going to involve the girl she was trying to butter up.
But as it turns out, her epic plan was just to burn shit down, and have Jorah&Daario bar the door.
>>69796717
>>69796789
It might be that burning the Khals was ritualistic in some manner. She might not actually be immune to fire.
>>69796790
Stannisfags
>>69796717
>It wasn't that so much as her immunity to fire that irks me.
Yeah, be annoyed about something they've shown happening before. That makes sense.
Elio and Linda BTFO Preston Jacobs:
I think there's a misconception in the above. The way you put it, this frames George's relationship to his readers as being an adversarial one, where he needs to actively and directly lie to them rather than trusting in his writing to provide whatever misdirection he intends and requires.
But in nearly 20 years of curating the So Spake Martin collection, attending and participating in panels, interviewing him, etc., honest-to-goodness this is how it works with George:
If someone asks him a question about something he doesn't want to reveal or answer, he doesn't respond, or he gives a vague answer, or he outright says he won't discuss it. He's never been caught out deliberately lying about plot points in his story. The theory of a connection between ASoIaF and the Thousand Worlds has been denied by George on several occasions: that unlike Asimov and Heinlein he feels no urge to connect his distinct settings into one mega-setting, and that there's nothing science fictional in the fantastical elements of the series.
People have point-blank asked him questions about mysteries such as Jon's parentage, or who killed Bran (prior to ASoS), things that are pretty significant... and yet he never lied in his responses about them when he chose to respond. There's SSM entries where he tells people he won't talk about the R+L=J theory. There's mails where he flatly told people a theory was barking up the wrong tree. There's no mails where he said one thing about a detail of the story and then it turned out he was telling an untruth.
cont.
>>69796790
Khal something
>>69796815
>I wish you good fortune in the wars to come
He obviously thought he was going to lose otherwise the line makes no sense. It was more him accepting that instead of running he was going to fight to his death obeying Rhaegar's last orders to protect the stupid tower and Jon.
>tfw ordered the world of ice and fire book, baratheon flag and a stannis pop figure
>>69796579
well no shit its 6 v 2
>>69796857
And think on it a bit further with this specific example. What Preston is describing is a kind of grace note -- he envisions a little nod at the very end of the series that will blow the minds of the hardcore fans of George R.R. Martin's works. But that's nothing but a nod. It's not actually anything genuinely integral to the story. So why in the world would this, of all things, be the one thing George is lying about to his readers? Is it worth disillusioning or disappointing people in his honesty about his own work?
Or are we to believe that after five novels, the sixth or seventh novel will pivot hard and reveal that the fact that it's actually a science fictional world is so significant that we might possibly conceive George lying about it to protect the biggest twist of them all?
It just doesn't make sense to me, in any case, but that's my opinion on the matter.
>>69796848
The confirmed in a interview that show dany is indeed fireproof
>>69796790
A Roose Bolton man, who challenges Ramsay's claim, and accuses him of murder.
>>69796901
Just because he references his other works doesn't mean they are evidence of anything, especially after George's directly refuting your theory. Yes, there are easter eggs from the thousand worlds like the statues in the House of Black and White and others you found. Know what else there is? Triarch Belicho of Volantis, the unbeaten patriot general who was trampled to death by giants. That's Bill Belichick, coach of the New England Patriots and George gloating about the New York Giants ending their perfect season. Are we to believe that the New England Patriots exist in ASOIAF because of this? No, of course not, it's an easter egg because George is a fan of football. Just like his references to his other stories. If the elements you argued that make it sci-fi aren't valid based on the author's comments, then I'm not sure by what measure you're still holding on the idea that it is a sci-fi. The impossible elements of the story fit perfectly fine within the normal fantasy genre.
Could he change his mind and have a seed ship rise up of Asshai? Of course but that's a disingenuous argument. It's fiction, in the last two books he could do anything. Suddenly introduce the characters from Sex and the City and make them have godlike powers of the infinity gauntlet if he wanted to. As of now, no it's not and you can hold out hope that he changes his mind. Nothing wrong with that, it's a story in progress. It's fine to be wrong about a theory, you even say in your videos "I may be wrong about half of this". Well, this is one of those times and it'd be a lot more genuine to just admit that than continue twisting quotes and essentially accusing the author of lying about his story to his fans.
>>69796914
Dang, seriously? Which interview?
>>69796790
rato of house ratgaryen
>>69796621
What is there to miss? You are executing your secret plan and will be back within a couple episodes, I can wait
>>69796857
Reminder Elio and Linda accuse George of trolling and don't put his answers in the SSM if they don't like it and ESPECIALLY if goes against the RLJ mythos.
Their opinion here is worthless.
>>69796680
>pushes over the fire
>"It's time for A Dance With Dragons"
What did she mean by this?
>>69796854
>>69796789
It's just a little too high fantasy for my taste. I enjoy the way magic is pretty subtle in both books and show.
It was acceptable in season one because of the circumstances with the comet, Miri maz dur, Drogo dying etc.. But it felt kind of shoe horned in this episode
(farts)
>>69796955
The director of that episode held an AMA in reddit .
>>69796959
This post made me sad. Stannis fans are in complete denial even after they went as far as having Brienne tell Davos right to his face that she lops off his head. He's gone bros.
>>69796982
(farts)
>>69796878
twoiaf is some interesting shit anon hope you enjoy.
Stannis is unlucky as fuck
>Gets Pirates backing and Renlys army. Outnumbers Kings Landing.
Loses to some random crap and Tyrel being fags
>Gets Iron Bank to back him up. Huge army that was bigger or equal to Boltons
Loses to some random shit and 20 random guys
Always gains big support
Outnumbers his enemy
Loses to some random unlucky move
Geralt will sit the Iron Throne.
>>69796984
I see. Well I'm too lazy to look it up. So I'll just take your word for it.
>>69797010
(farts)
I cannot comprehend how perfect Dayne was looking in that scene.
Other pictures of the actor aren't even that attractive.
>>69797012
the art is goat 2bh familia
>>69797046
Yeah for real wtf
Like I would bang him in that scene only
>>69797016
They weren't just 20 random guys.
They were 20 good men.
>>69797033
(farts)
>>69797004
Then just show me his body. A lot of people seem to talk big about how he's dead but there is no proof. Stannis probably has Brienne and had Roose following his orders and told them to say he's dead. He'll be back stronger than ever.
>>69797063
Someone post "20 good men" pics!
>>69797065
(farts)
>>69796821
there's a new Lyanna in the house and her name is John Cena.
>>69796649
keckon
>>69797095
Keep denying it, Stannisfag.
>>69797022
there you go you lazy fuck
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4k5htd/i_am_daniel_sackheim_im_a_television_director_and/d3cbdpg
>>69797095
I like Stannis and I'd want to believe this but he's fucking dead. She wouldn't lie, think of the Umbers. There is no clever writing or ploys anymore, just deaths for shock value.
>>69797107
(farts)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqv-UtJQk5Q
>>69797107
>>69797065
>>69797033
>>69797010
>>69796982
muh buttslutfu
>>69797109
Your lyanna has something weird about her face desu
>>69797122
>he went on Reddit
Baited hard anon
Promise me Ned Stark of the house Stark. Third of his name. Ruler of ice and snow. Breaker of nothing. Father of crippleds. Father of bastards and failures
>>69797139
(farts)
>>69797107
why is she so perfect, lads?
>>69797121
Good response. I give you a well thought out post full of facts and you can't say shit.
>>69797131
No
>>69797612
Ramsay cock boy here
Stannis sucks
>>69797109
>>69797155
how bout now
>>69797016
Are you there R'Hllor?
It's me, Stannis
>>69797166
(farts)
>>69797166
How used do you think her butthole is? Do you think she can prolapse?
What's next for him?
>>69796969
>dragons
>wizards
>treemen
>ice zombies
>pretty subtle
>>69797186
Yes. He is dead. Accept it. Denial if the first step but you can make it anon. There is no reason for him to be alive, Jon is away from the wall and will defeat Ramsay with the aid of the Vale. Stannis has run his course.
>>69797122
I wouldn't have recommended actually linking reddit. But regardless, thanks for spoonfeeding my lazy ass. Being completely immune to fire, is kind of stupid. Fire resistance, i get. But complete immunity? Nah.
>>69796680
>twist
>>69797197
(farts)
>>69797221
returns to being a literally who B rate actor in scotland
>>69797227
well unlike in the books, show dany never got burned. So at least the show is consistant
>>69797254
(farts)
>>69797162
>Father of bastards and failures
Well isn't she presumptuous. How does she know Ned is going to promise her?
>>69797107
>cross bracelet
Sophie confirmed pure
>>69797226
>He is dead
Show me his body
>There is no reason for him to be alive
The reason is for the rightful king to sit on the throne and bring justice to all of westoros.
>>69797221
Would love to see hin on screen in something big.
I just want more of his voice.
He is also a 10/10 qtpatootie
Asha isn't actually dead is she?
>>69797276
Consistently retarded.
>>69797278
(farts)
>>69797285
You're Preston Jacobs level of delusion if you think the direction the show is heading is for Stannis to sit the throne.
Seriously, how can people still fail to grasp the direction so much. Is it just delusion?
>>69797276
>the show is consistant
kek
>>69797285
He is alive anon. He is with Syrio
>>69797285
If you thought this show was going to have a happy ending with justice for Westoros, then you haven't been paying attention.
>>69797296
Are you talking about Osha or Asha/"Yara"
>>69797315
He is LITERALLY the king and has been since Robert died. The order of lineage went to him after Robert died and he has been the king since that day. The Lannisters have been sitting on the throne but they weren't the true kings through the law.
Stannis has already been the king through 90% of this story.
>>69797162
Promise me, Ned.
>>69796857
>caring about Elio and his pet harpy
Nigger fuck off
>>69797315
No one believes it anymore. People are just baiting.
>>69797294
his voice gets me wet ngl
>>69797334
>implying the ending won't be tumblr tier
I wish I had your faith anon
Ramsay dick rider here
Stannis IS dead
>>69797296
she's not dead anon. She's gone to live happily on lonely light but i'm afraid we're never gonna see or hear from her again.
>>69796878
>giving him money while the series remains unfinished
>paying for shitty show merchandise
>>69797382
Ramsay is dead. There is just as much proof of that as there is for Stannis being dead.
Fuck yourself
>>69797350
Promise me, Ned.
Promise me, Ned.
>>69797346
This is only true IF you support Robert and his claim to conquest. His rebellion.
If you don't then guess who the king actually is? It's fucking Dany, which is far far far far far far more consistent with what is actually in the realm of fucking happening. Stupid Stannis cocksuckers.
I could fight everyone of you
Cast him
>>69797346
So what? It's pretty clear D&D just wanted to get rid of Stannis, the show is heading towards Jon retaking the North, and probably Dany landing in Dorne with the Ironborn/Dothraki at the end of the season.
Stannis ran out of allies, soldiers, family, supporters. He is done.
>>69797294
>>69797371
Is he official the best husbando /got/?
Nude scene on subpar movie when? Cunningham, Gillen and even Dillane have done it.
>>69797412
>>69797416
Promise mind
>>69797432
Strong Belwas
>>69797425
Westoros as a whole accepted Robert's conquest. Stannis is the true king and rules to this day. Dany is a heretic usurper if she steps foot on Stannis' continent and he will dole out justice to her.
>>69797315
after episode 7 you won't be so edgy
Promise me, Ned.
>>69797019
imagine if geralt was in westeros, wouldnt even care if it was just episode to episode of him walking round bodying major characters like they are nothing
>>69797350
>>69797412Grope my boobs, Ned
>>69797468
The entire Baratheon house is nothing but traitors. Varys and many houses still support the Targs in name. Dany will come to Westoros and rule as is her right. Stannis is merely the second brother of a house of fucking Traitors. His claim is not as strong as hers and her millions of fans would disagree with you.
>>69797296
Yeah cause getting stabbed in the throat isn't serious.
>>69797447
Yes, I miss him so badly.
>his stubble will never scratch your cheek
>>69797425
But dany is a shit ruler
Targs only got the damn throne by killing and burning people. Burning crops and using OP shit.
>Buh buh people liked some of them
People liked Rob. People liked Robb Stark and Ned. People also forgot that the Targs forced westeros to bow. Roberts rebellion was the best thing to happen. Killing those entitled targs was a gift
Stannis would be unpopular. But would rule like a King. Not a little girl who thinks an army of wild rapists makes her a loving women
>>69797496
>>69797510
you are both retards
>>69797528
It's just a flesh wound
>>69797416
>>69797488
Ned me, Promise.
>>69797373
It's probably going to be Jon and Dany in some sort of King + Queen relationship which changes the natural order of the kingdom and that's where the overall story leads off
Which sounds fucking awful but that's probably what it will be
>>69797468
It would be interesting to see Stannis's reaction to Dany's arrival. Like, he'd most definitely oppose her, but in private he'd probably have some heart to hearts with Davos about it.
>>69797510
Dany fans are serfs and peasants whose opinions have utterly no wait.
>>69797541
Stannis is a fucking cunt and not the true king, neither was Robert. Aerys went insane because of Tywin mindfuckery after he was kidnapped. It's Tywin's fault because he was a greedy cunt who wanted to ursurp the throne and establish a dynasty.
Dany will not be a shit rule, not with people like Varys and Jorah advising her.
>>69796957
>not House Ratigan
>>69797528
Osha suddenly started to choke. Ramsay actually gave her an emergency tracheotomy to save her life. He's skilled with his knife and managed to miss any major artery.
>>69797555
Haha i get it its a monty python reference. Upvoted!
What the fuck is his problem?
>>69797366
Let's see how fucking confident you are after episode 7 you fucking cunt. I am so god damn tired of listening to you faggots every week. He is NOT fucking dead, you'll look like the biggest fucking retarded ass fucking retard in a few weeks. You mark my fucking words right now you piece of literal fucking shit
>>69797540
>you will never play table games with Mr. TonTon and make sweet love to him later that night
end this right now
>>69797599
thanks senpai
>>69797510
>Dany rule
>as is her right
>Jon is higher in the line of succession if RLJ
What now bitch?
Reminder if Stannis won black water the war of 5 kings would have ended with less bloodshed. Robb would have not cared to be king. Balon was too old and wouldnt do shit. Bolton would be doing whatever
Dany wants to invade westeros with Cockless slave woldiers and rapist on horses.
>Buh shes the good guy
>>69796857
>>69796901
>>69796930
what are they referring to?
>>69797606
He's a squib
Promise me, Eddard.
>>69797638
If this is confirmed true then Dany best marry him. Or bend the knee.
>>69797612
Thats a lot of effort for a obvious bait.
You can just go >implying he is dead
and have the same effect
>>69797577
>It would be interesting to see Stannis's reaction to Dany's arrival
Yeah I can't wait until that happens. He is going to send her straight to fucking hell like she deserves
>>69797613
THE ROOSE IS LOOSE!
Swear to me, Ned.
>>69797278
b-b-b-ut where does the fart go
>Tormund tries to hit on Brienne next ep
>YOU CAN'T HANDLE ALLLLLLLLL THIS WOMAN
>The Burlington Bar erupts into a 4 minute standing ovation
>>69797606
That's actually a good question
>>69797642
stannis considered robb stark a usurper and would have went to war with him
>>69797642
Reminder if Stannis didn't kill Renly. The war would have ended a lot earlier. Robb would have been alive and in the north preparing for the WWs
>>69797581
>Blame one man for tricking a king to burn people alive
>Ignore that targs only had a throne after raiding westeros with an army and dragons (dragons that were fucking monster huge)
>Ignore that most of westeros supported Robb
>Actually think anyone wants a targ with dragons to invade westeros
Again Stannis would still be a better ruler. But i guess youre a cuck who thinks danys rapeugee horse army would bring multiculturalism huh. You cuck
>>69797716
No it's not. All the noble houses like Tully and Stark treated him like shit. He married young but Jon Arryn also married the "Tully bitch" and was praised for it. He explains his motivations pretty clearly after the red wedding. Also Robb made a solemn vow which he broke like a stupid kid.
>>69797642
>Robb would have not cared to be king
He probably would. If not for the Red Wedding, worst case is he'd have lost the Riverlands. If he'd gotten back North and bunked down I can't see a Southron army getting past the Neck, or even risking a land invasion in the face of a long winter.
>>69797767
Renly would have been better than Stannis. Everyone hates Stannis, no one would follow him or trust him. He would ban whorehouses, upset the nobles, he'd get himself embroiled in a ton of wars against him.
It's like Littlefinger said in the books. If Stannis takes the throne the realm will constantly bleed as he wars against fucking everyone because he's a dumb hardheaded cunt.
>>69797711
It's sad that I can see this happening
>>69797408
lel
>>69797606
He chose the winning side. Nothing wrong with that
The Sansa and Jon shit is the hypest I've been for the show in ages.
It is so fucking fun, watching the show without having read what happens in the book first.
Feels like I'm watching season 1 again. I'm actually fucking enjoying it again.
Why did I ever read those god awful books, bros?
>>69797807
>Renly would have been better than Stannis
DABID
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>>69797642
>Stannis wins Blackwater, becomes king
>Starts burning everybody, becomes Aerys II 2.0
herewegoagain.gif
>>69797827
Hello /r/gameofthrones
>>69797839
So would Robb, if that offends you less. In fact almost everyone would be. Perhaps Robert was worse though, I can't imagine Stannis would put the crown into debt. That's one positive thing at least.
Neddo watashi o yakusoku shimasu.
>>69797823
About as well as Brutus did, he and Ramsay are about to get BTFO
>>69797722
probably not, there would have been a brokered peace
>>69797872
People who deserve it, probably.
>>69797839
Pretty much everyone in universe agrees that Stannis would have been terrible ruler. Except for Davos
>>69797708
It keeps building up back and forth until it reaches critical mass.pic related
>>69797913
>If they don't bend the knee I will destroy them
Stannis was not the type to broker piece. He would war with everyone because MUH RIGHT.
>>69797556
How can anyone be so perfect?
Anybody read this blog about Marwyn? Puts forward the idea that Marwyn is just a paranoid, conspiracy theorist with delusions of grandeur
https://offmichaelsbookshelf.wordpress.com/2016/01/28/the-tinfoil-link-dont-trust-marwyn/
Think it's quite interesting, since most assume Marwyn is just totally correct
>>69797913
Didn't Stannis make it clear Robb would bend the knee? Doesn't seem like he would compromise at all on that.
>>69797839
>M-MUH RIGHT
There is a reason Renly was able to assemble the lords of the Stormlands and the Reach behind him. He was charismatic and strong. Exactly what the Seven Kingdoms needed.
I fucking hate that Stannis faggot and any autistic faggot that supports that kin slayer.
>>69797931
hes also a pragmatist, hed probably realise a war with the north when most people arent big fans of you and winter is approaching is unwise and there would be some kind of parlay to settle the dispute peacefully
then again stannis would probably kill him at it because he is a dirty kinslaying blood magic using scum bag
>>69797884
Has this titcow done porn yet?
>>69797972
To be fair Stannis is probably the most virtuous character. He's like Ned. He would indeed be honorable and true to his word. The problem is that he takes it to a fucking extreme and would have no trouble pissing everyone off and going to war over the dumbest shit. It's like Renly said, he never wanted friends.
>>69797972
Charismatic but not strong
>>69798015
She did one mediocre gravure video.(by gravure standards)
Then she disappeared. Some say she has gone missing/been kidnapped. As she's dropped off contact from all of her online buddies. Others say she got married, and had a child, and decided she would stop being a whore on the internet.
In any case, she's gone.
>>69798015
nope she dodged that one some rich guy got her pregnant
>>69798036
Stannis and Ned are as strong as steel.
A king needs to learn when to bend.
>>69798040
>not strong
What the fuck are you on about faggot.
They literally had to use blood magic to kill him. Couldn't beat him in a fair fucking fight.
>>69796579
I really liked the subtle touch of him being annoyed/embarrassed by the other King Guard's brashness - showed it all with just a glance.
>>69797880
>>69797921
>>69797972
I'm not enough of a stannisfag to sperg over it but defending Renly? You guys
>>69797972
Renly should have used his charisma to support his brother's rightful claim.
But being the greedy, childish faggot he was he decided to try and snatch it for himself.
Now they're all dead.
>>69798116
I thought it was Robert who was steel and Stannis brittle iron.
>>69798137
>>69798138
Renly was imitating Robert and using the right of conquest argument. There wasn't anything wrong with what he did, and he had the strength and backing to actually win. Stannis fucked it all up because he believed right to rule > right of conquest.
Which is a joke because his entire right to rule argument comes from Robert's right of conquest against Aerys. That's why I defend Renly.
>THE BRAZIERS DABID
>>69798138
We are not arguing had the better right to the throne. Stannis obviously did, since we as viewers in the world knew that Robert's children were illegitimate.
But we are not arguing who had the better right. Stannis should have accepted that he did not have the armies of the Reach and the Stormlands behind him. Renly did. Renly knows Kingslanding, he knows the politics of the land. He could bring strength and stability.
Stannis should have stepped out of the way and backed Renly.
But he was too egotistical, hurt by the fact that he was not given Storms End and thinking he deserved to be King, like a whiny little bitch.
>>69798036
Ned and Stannis are very different types of honourable.
>George confirmed the lemon trees in braavos thing is important
wew lad
Are the torrents on tpb of Ep 5-7 legit or nah
>>69798179
Robert waged a rebellion against a tyrant, not a war so that he could rule. Once House Targaryen was out he took the throne, despite not even being the one who declared or led the war, because House Baratheon was the closest to Targaryen and Robert taking the throne would be the most stable option.
If it was all conquest, Jon Arynn would have been king. He declared the war and led the efforts, politically.
>>69798179
But Robert had an actual reason to start a war
Renly just wanted the fame and glory, he was greedy and so were the ones supporting him
>>69798246
get ready for R+L=D
( T ~ T)
>>69798116
Where the fuck did you get this idea that Renly was a strong fighter and leader?
>>69798246
My guess is that she was hidden in the Reach or Dorne or some bullshit, revealing that some great family has been plotting the return of the Targaeryans since the beginning.
Probably Dorne, since Doran sends Quentyn to her and also had the most direct family ties to the Targaeryans.
Do lemon trees grow in Dorne?
>>69798331
yap lemon trees indeed grow in dorne
>>69798315
Different guy, but he was a good leader, or at least good at getting followers. Fighter and Strategist? Not so much.
>>69798309
>>69798331
Here's what George said
>>69798315
I never said anything about being a strong leader or a strong fighter.
He had the knights of the Reach and the Stormlands behind him.
He had the strongest army.
Then Stannis fucked it up and gave all those lords to the Tyrells and Lannisters.
>>69798295
>>69798301
No matter what they say about the cause or reasons, in the end Robert rebelled and took the throne from the Targaryeans by force. It was a force of conquest and that's how the Baratheon line was established. I don't blame Renly for attempting to do the same thing. I guess in the same vein you can't blame Stannis for arguing that his claim is more important. But in the end results matter, something Stannis agrees with since he uses blood magic. And Renly was the one best positioned to take over King's Landing at the time.
>>69798216
Renly should have backed Stannis from the outset. You talk like Stannis wasn't part of Robert's council or present in King's Landing.
>>69798331
But then it's not a big reveal. We already know Doran is trying to side with Dany. That revelation will not change anything
>>69798246
>>69798331
>>69798357
uhh..why are Lemon trees important?
>>69798357
>>69798367
Yeah totes was in Dorne for a while.
That's not so exciting.
>>69798216
>Stannis should have stepped out of the way and backed Renly.
That would directly contradict Stannis' character. Stannis cared so much about his right because he was the LEGITIMATELY next in line. If Renly was next you can bet your ass he would have fought for Renly's right because he would have been the rightful king.
Stannis wants all the laws and rules kept up with no exceptions, it just so happens he was the one with the most legitimate claim as well. Stannis would have fought for any king's rightful claim to the throne, he is a man of rules and laws.
>>69798280
Find out for us
>>69798419
I just did, Cannot render file. Nothing got onto my computer though
>>69798384
Why the fuck should he back Stannis other than "muh right"? The Stormlands was overwhelmingly supporting Renly along with the Tyrells. It's obvious Stannis should have swallowed his pride and supported Renly.
>>69798410
>Legitimately next in line
What does this matter to anyone except Stannis' ego and his desire to rule?
He uses the "laws and rules" to justify his own selfish wants.
>>69798367
"It does point to...Dany having a shitty memory"
>>69798382
>I don't blame Renly for attempting to do the same thing.
You don't understand the significant difference between a rebellion against a tyrant and a war fought for purely selfish reasons, by someone who isn't even a good candidate?
As for Renly getting results, he would have defeated the Lannisters but his rule would not have been fundamentally different and would have caused more instability in the long run since it would be an open declaration that the laws of inheritance are no longer in effect.
>>69798393
Dany remembers lemon trees and a red door in her childhood.
Braavos is a cold, wet place that probably couldn't support the growth of lemon trees. So many assume she actually grew up in Dorne or the Reach
>>69798447
Just like you're using Stannis' thorny disposition to deny his fucking birthright.
>muh Renly
He's dead and he failed. We'll leave it at that.
Anyone heard that HBO is making a Game of Thrones series based on these books?
I'm a little hyped and a little worried. What happens if they catch up to the books before GRRM is finished?
>>69798447
>He uses the "laws and rules" to justify his own selfish wants.
You must be talking about show Stannis or you don't get his character at all
>>69798393
Dany remembers seeing lemon tree outside her window when she was a child.
According to viserys dany spent her childhood in Brasvos.
But Lemon trees dont grow in Braavos
what most people dont understand is that game of thrones is no mere novel, it is a sexual ritual, an erotic novel, it will end up with dany and sneks enslaving westeros and the ice necromancer represents patriarchy, eventually cersei, sandsneks and danny will have everyone in chastity belts
but people misunderstood and thought this was a lord of the rings thing and now grrm is not sure if he should release the last book
>>69798429
lol, rootkit
>>69798465
>As for Renly getting results, he would have defeated the Lannisters but his rule would not have been fundamentally different and would have caused more instability in the long run since it would be an open declaration that the laws of inheritance are no longer in effect.
That's an interesting point to be honest. What if Stannis joined forces with Renly, eliminated the Lannisters, THEN had Renly killed by blood magic after coercing Renly to name him his heir for his support? Hell that would have been a lot better.
>>69798447
>What does this matter to anyone except Stannis' ego and his desire to rule?
Anyone who doesn't want a war every single year in every single region?
>>69798485
Was killed dishonourably by a kin slayer that using fucking dark blood magic.
He is burning in the Seven hells.
>>69796579
They're really trimming down the cast this season aren't they? There's already been like 10+ deaths of relevant to semi-relevant characters and it's not even halfway.
>>69798511
i develop rootkits id know if one got onto my system
>>69798516
It would have been more effective, but Stannis isn't Jewish.
>>69798552
True, and that's the significance that Dabid was at least graceful enough to show in his last stand. Stephen did well portraying an honorable man who chose to go down fighting for his beliefs.
But fuck if he wanted to win he could have played it differently. Renly was the key.
>>69798516
If you accept your younger brother as king and even start fighting for him everyone will call you pussy and no one will listen to you
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I hope Drogon shows up soon. I can't wait to see how big he's gotten
>>69798599
At the same time, he would never have ended up going North and becoming a better king if he had won at first.
>>69798528
The concept of kinslaying doesn't apply to someone who's already turned on their own family. Renly got what he deserved.
>>69798613
He's not as big as THIS DICK
haha
>>69798610
No one was going to listen to Stannis anyway everyone hated him. Killing all the Lannisters was more important I think.
>>69798482
>>69798508
so why is it important for Dany to know/remember that she grew up somewhere? That she and Viserys arent in real danger? But Viserys had to literally beg to keep themselves alive...
>>69798644
They wouldn't really have a choice. Nobody is going to rebel because they personally dislike the King because he doesn't laugh at their shitty jokes.
>>69798537
how many confirmed kills do you have
![Game of Thrones S01E02 The Kingsroad (1080p x265 10bit Joy).mkv_snapshot_06.51_[2016.05.11_23.06.05].png](https://i.imgur.com/5YpP7be.jpg "Game of Thrones S01E02 The Kingsroad (1080p x265 10bit Joy).mkv snapshot 06.51 [2016.05.11 23.06.05]")
>>69798632
>>69798508
Viserys also tells her that they spent their childhood running from Robert's assassins, but we know from GoT that Robert sent his first assassin after she got pregnant.
>>69798674
I agree, that's why I'm saying he could have swallowed his pride to focus on the goal of killing that prick Tywin. Who cares if people would judge him weak or choose not to listen, they have no fucking choice in the matter. The king's word is law whether you respect/like him or not.
has ayra been using the trees to see abroad?
>>69797142
>Not comic sans
HER CUNT BECAME THE WORLD
>>69798667
Means viserys was lying to her. Opens up the possibility what else viserys might have lied. Maybe dany isn't a targ at all.
>>69798393
She didn't actually grow up in Bravos like Viserys or Illyrio told her. Was most likely Dorne. But if her mom and Viserys went to Dragonstone and then across the narrow sea, who is he real parents eh? R+L=D and J is actually son of Brandon Stark and Ashara Dane, or R+L=J and D. Of couse this is not how the show is going to do, they didn't set it up, and it won't even come up.
>>69798667
Because it means we can't really trust anything Viserys or Illyrio said about Dany's childhood. It's usually used to play into the R+L = D theory
>>69797884
it's "yakusoku shite" and lyanna would call him "oniichan" because she's his younger sister. 約束して、お兄ちゃん…
>>69798784
>Maybe dany isn't a targ at all.
oh fuck off
>>69798784
>>69798791
Who cares about this shit, the show isn't going to address it and the fat man is going to die before finishing the series. You do realize the show's ending is going to become the main cannon right?
>>69798726
Its possible Visery was just paranoid.
>>69798693
3, but 9 unconfirmed
I leave a tornado of destruction behind me wherever I go, sometimes there isn't enough left of my victims to get a confirmation ;)
>>69797496
That would be sick but it would be even cooler if part of Westeros was infested by Silent Hill, maybe Harrenhal, and then Dante the Devil Killer from the Devil May Cry series shows up after some dimensional travel magicks to slay the Samael that was causing the Silent Hill style haunting in Harrenhal.
Once he cleansed the cursed halls of harren his return dimension shift doodad breaks and he becomes stuck in ASoIAF and so the true faith hires him to be the champion of the Faith and Dante becomes the one to fight Gregor Clegane instead of the hound.
Dante looks like he is about to lose but he is just playing around then as a final flourish he unleashes his Devil Trigger and rips Cleganes heart out with his bare devil taloned hand.
However it's not long before the Watcher notices the intruding presence on this dimension and tries to directly intervene but the North says that Westeros affairs are Westeros business and they unite together under Sansa and Jon to turn away the Watcher and fight Dante themselves to expel him from the realm.
The ending is very tragic as Dante trivial cleaves through the army of the North and then winter comes and a tide of Others descend upon the south.
They beg Dante for help but he tells them he doesn't kill for free and that if they want to hire him they better bring the pizza. They have no idea what Pizza is though so they can't hire him and Westeros is doomed.
What do you think?
>>69798784
>>69798803
ah makes sense
So if Rhaella (Aerys' wife) didnt give birth to Dany, what happened to her baby?
“Hang this,” she said, handing him the duck. Anguy shuffled his feet. “We were thinking we might eat it, Shama. With lemons. If you had some.”
“Lemons. And where would we get lemons? Does this look like Dorne to you, you freckled fool? Why don’t you hop out back to the lemon trees and pick us a bushel, and some nice olives and pomegranates too.”
>>69798784
Her being the mummer's dragon would make /got/ explode, but it wasn't meant to be. Aegon is the mummer's dragon.
>>69798858
could be stillborn. targs are famous for stillborns
>>69798836
It's plausible that it'll be revealed in TWOW.
I like the idea that Marwyn was the Maester on dragonstone for the Targs, and he could reveal all the lies to Dany when they meet
>>69798881
And Aegon isn't even in the show. The lemon tree thing is a moot point.
>>69798863
All this has done is remind me of the comfy Riverland chapters that never got put in because of time constraint.
>>69797807
This is why I don't understand people who hate LF for "betraying" Ned. He just didn't want to support Stannis.
>>69798837
Possibly, or it coudl be an excuse. In Quarth we saw how people would give Dany lip service and trickets but refused to give her any actual support. A similar thing could have happened to Viserys multiple time, so rather than admitting to Dany that no-one really wanted to help them, he said they had to run away.
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>>69798836
>main canon
No such thing. There's Show-Canon and Book-Canon
>>69798927
They are the best part of ACoK, SoS and AFFC.
>>69798913
If she and Jon are bastard twins instead of her being trueborn his claim is better than hers.
>>69798939
Yeah Ned really missed that during the talk with him, both in the show and books. CIA almost goes out of his way to outright say "Hey buddy we're both out of a job if Stannis rules, he's going to wipe the council clean" but Ned doesn't seem to notice because he's fucking dense or something. I guess these people are pretty dense as well.
>>69798946
some autists here can't possibly conceive the idea of such a thing existing but you are right
>>69798823
Promise me, Ned.
>>69798946
Indeed, the Dany fire thing should have confirmed one and for all that crossing the 2 canons is dumb, but people still do it
>>69798998
I would promise this goddess anything.
>>69798947
Meeting the remaining members and Gendry legitimately made Brienne's chapters 10x betteruntil that whole hanging thing.
>>69798983
Northerners are stubborn
>>69799033
Brienne's chapters are a comfy reread desu
>>69799041
Quick tempers, slow minds.
>>69797932
>protip: you can't
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>>69798992
For some reason this is a thing with every fandom that begins as like a comic or book and then is turned into a movie. They can't separate it into two alternate universes.
>>69799011
Exactly.
>>69797807
To be fair, Stannis proved everyone wrong when he pardoned his brother's soldiers, then pardoned Davos for releasing Edric, then pardoned the Wildlings for trying to take over the North. He's softer than his critics think.
>>69799060
Septon Meribald made them that way. I can't say I found Brienne's internal monologue about boy's teasing all that interesting.
So the spanish dude attacks again and basically told the entire chapter again.
>>69798309
b-but anon, what about genetics? dany is white haired, blue eyed like most targaryens while jon got black hair and brown eyes like average northeners. explaiiin
>>69799025
Promise melemoncakes, Ned.
>>69799060
AFFC is my favourite in the series.
>>69799180
R+L=D is a meme theory, don't question it
>>69799184
Do you have a folder called "clothed white girls with big tits"?
>>69799180
All your post has done is refute Jon having any Targ in him whatsoever.
>>69799180
Dany got Rhaeger's gene. The always black hair thing is true for Baratheons but we dont know if it is true for Starks
>>69799223
so what does the lemon tree imply?
R+L=D seems like a plausible ending D&D is going to make for keks and fanservice
>>69799180
Twins don't always have the same genes. Dany picks up the Targ genes, Ned the northern ones
>>69799287
*jon the northern genes
R+L = Ned WOULD be a meme theory up there with D + D = T
>>69797142
The book writing is pretty shit here 2bh pham
>>69799274
The lemon trees imply that Dany doesn't have a perfect memory of her childhood and it could imply that she lived in Dorne at some point
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>>69799180
Jon inherited his hair from Lyanna's genes probably
>>69799351
how are those lines shit? Be serious
>>69797142
I love how you completely omitted all of the lines the show had that were raised from the books in favor of making a retarded meme.
>>69799374
but why would viserys tell her that theyre siblings
>>69799274
Well if it was R+L=D in the show's case, D&D wouldn't have made such a big deal about them being allowed to make the show because they guessed Jon's mother, then subsequently omitted the candidates outside of Lyanna being referenced on the show as well as never having Dany mention the house with the red door. We basically know R+L=J through the process of elimination thanks to the show.
>>69799374
I dont believe in R+L=D either.
The sad thing is its' been so long since the last book, people have thought of every imaginable twists.
Whatever GRRM ends up doing, will probably feel tame.
>>69799255
Nope. I have a folder that's all SFW sexy pictures, but it's completely unorganized. I have to dig for the big tit white girls. Filtering out the bikini and lingerie shots. Filtering the shots where the faces are obscured. Filtering the ones where they aren't looking at the viewer. Filtering the blondes, redheads, and light browns. I did cheat and post some girls that aren't wholly white though. I'm pretty sure I'm out of pics already, considering the filtering conditions.
>>69799461
you think i'm defending R+L=D
i'm not
>>69799406
I don't want to copy and paste,
but the lines from Ned feel to me like they are to inform the reader rather than natural to the conversation.
>Jaime killed your king with golden sword
>Ned describes seige and surrender etc.
>Ned informs/reminds readers of Viserys's whereabouts.
>>69799461
To make her obedient and protect his claim in case she ever tried to challenge him or Rhaegar married Lyanna.
>>69799461
Because if Dany was Rhaegar's daughter then she was above him in the line of succession I think
>>69799558
Idiot, this happens 2/3 into the book when all that has already been told.
new
>>69799537
>>69799576
she is also a girl so she is not a real threat. but maybe viserys just wanted to play it safe
>>69799597
Literally changes nothing.
>>69799562
>>69799576
but viserys is above her anyway, even without taking male before females into regard, rhaegar never inherited so it goes to the second born son of aerys
>>69799523
Promise me, Ned.
>>69799631
Then to make her obedient so he could have his precious sister(niece)-wife.
>>69799597
>>69799630
In fact, if anything, it makes it worse.
>>69799631
I think the son of the prince comes before brother of the prince
>>69799287
say they are actually twins and R+L=D&J is troe, why would rheagar leave jon behind?
Ravage me, Ned.
>>69799676
why would she be more obesient as a sister rather than a niece
such a dumb theory
>>69799693
cant say i know for sure but i assumed itd be the second son over the eldests son if the eldest never inherited
>>69799722
That theory is Ned gave dany to Ashara since dany was too targlike and couldnt be faked as his bastard
>>69799722
Ned sent Dany off to Essos because she was obviously a Targ, and that's why he attacked her assassination attempt so much
He kept Jon because he could play him off as a stark
>>69797166
bury my whole face in it
>>69799523
that's a lot of work senpai, keep it up
>>69799558
I can see that but to me it didn't feel forced at all
>>69798791
>R+L=J and D.
this>>69796667 is starting to make more sense
>>69797432
shagga son of dolf
>>69797416
Ay Ned, you finna promise me suthin?
I'm going to masturbate over Ramsey Bolton's dead body
>>69798613
Bad Dragon :^)
>>69800531
Kekked
>>69797425
>a woman ruler
You realize targ women can't inherit ? That's the whole point of the dance of dragons to sort that out
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