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What's up with this Snyder obsession with Bible symbolism?
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What's up with this Snyder obsession with Bible symbolism?
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>>69731833
I don't see it. could you make it more blatantly obvious for me?
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Babby's first symbolism

It's not like Snyder is able to grasp even that
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That's not referring to the Bible, that's referring to a Renaissance artwork.
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>>69731884
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This never even happened. The last supper doesn't exist. Stop believing people existed.
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>>69731907
still not quite sure. boy Zack must be a genius, it's all way over my heaad
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>>69731966
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>>69731966
>Happy retirement, Jesus
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>>69731995
kek
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>>69731833
that opening sequence is all reenactments of famous photos, paintings and acts by the superheroes. its supposed to show that its a different world with different timeline. its not supposed to be subtle and vague
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>>69732082
>it's supposed to be abd
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>>69731833
Because Biblical Jesus symbolism is the most overt and accessible symbolism in any media.

It doesn't even need to mean anything - a little nod of the head to Jesus and a baseline lowest denominator viewer believes there's something profound going on.
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>He was raised as a Christian Scientist
>Snyder has eight children
>Snyder and his current wife adopted two children during the course of making Man of Steel.

>http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-zack-snyder-profile/
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What point are capeshit directors even attempting to make when they make these heavy handed biblical references? Is it just an attempt to add a veneer of "maturity" to their manchild dirge?
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>>69731994
Yours is shit
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>>69731833
Snyder's symbolism is just cheap garbage. He doesn't even use it to advance the narrative or add any depth.

There's this one hipster faggot at my gym that always brings in a huge copy of The Brothers Karamazov to read while he's on the bike. He's apparently been reading the same book for over a year now and it appears that he's still lost somewhere in the first chapter. That's Zack Snyder.
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>>69732144
put some effort in at least
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>>69732195
Yes. They're trying to bring credibility to schlock.

It's funny seeing manchildren fanboys squabble over capeshit companies without realising it's all the same shit.
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>>69732320
>it's supposed to be abed
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>>69732181
This post reveals your ignorance and failed attempt at interpreting the imagery.
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>it's a /tv/ is too dumb for a mid-tier director thread
love these ones
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>>69731833
He's autistic and imagines it's somehow inheritly deep. He's a Faggot.
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God is great. That's why.
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>>69732195
I didn't see watchmen, but in MoS and BvS it seems to mostly convey how humanity looks upon Superman and projects godhood upon him.
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>>69732195
its really only snyder. Every other capeshit director knows they're making shit.
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>>69732195
Yes, essentially. They're trying to play to the intellectual crowd the same way Ian Malcolm did. The sad thing is capeshit does it so bad everything about it reeks of trying.
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>>69732373
>how do we show how humanity projects godhood on this figure with literally godlike powers
>i know, I'll show him next to pictures of jesus alot
>i'll also have him pose like jesus. alot.
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>>69732245
why does Batman have a fedora?
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>>69732373
It's astounding that people are somehow unable to recognize this.
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>>69731964
You sound insecure about something.

Let it all out anon, it's okay
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>>69731833
allows plebs to think they are watching film
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>>69732411
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>>69732443
there is not a person alive who doesn't recognize it.
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>>69732443
Everyone recognizes that. Most people are just able to recognize that it's cheap and totally uninteresting.
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bless you my children
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>>69731833
its the only book he ever read
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>>69732546
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>>69732373
ITS DEEP!!!
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>>69732542
>I did recognize it!
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>>69732564
>zack snyder
>being literate
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>>69732564
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>>69732245
>mfw the planes in the foreground
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He's very uncreative. He just takes famous works of art, or puts incredibly obvious allusions to Jesus.
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I'm not sure why but 99% of the posts I see overtly complaining about Snyder are so idiotic and just radiate ignorance.
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>>69732597
hes got books on tape yo
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>>69732620
There are no planes in the foreground. There are some in the background, though.
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>>69732611
yea, its pretty scary how snyder keeps getting work.
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>>69732620
Haha I've never noticed that. Here. Have another rare cia.
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>>69732410
It has a thematic use, so I can't complain
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>>69732443
It is pretty confusion how it goes over people's heads. Everyone wants to be spoonfed now days, or at least, the capeshit audience does.
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>>69732611
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>>69732803
This trash is embarrassing.
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>>69731994
There should be a piss jar on the table.
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>>69732688
That is absolutely something you're telling yourself to validate your shit taste.
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Zack Snyder, the one true capekinographer
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>>69732310
>He doesn't even use it to advance the narrative or add any depth.

kek Fucking pleb.
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>>69732976
Believe what you will.
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>>69733016
>pleb
This really carries no weight when it comes from someone that reads comic books and watches "superhero" movies. Even pathetic video games faggots are above you.
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>>69732783
Hi Whedon
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Layering symbolism and deeper meaning into a film does not automatically make it a good film.

It does not make up for shit pacing, nonsensical plot, stupid, unbelievable character interactions and events, and the ridiculous amount of plot holes. Symbolism in BvS is wasted on a shit movie.
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>>69733072
I wish there was a videogame half as compelling as MoS, too bad that's never going to happen.
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>Marvel nu-males hate Snyder

I'm not surprised. After all, their idols are Peyton Reed and Joss Whedon.

Seeing an alpha male like Zack Snyder causes them to remember how they were bullied by an alpha male and uncomfortable and lash out the only way they know how -impotently typing out hateful words on a Japanese jpeg board. Some, like Ant-Man director Peyton Reed when shown a statement from a capeflick rumor monger saying "DC directors can physically beat up Marvel directors," choose to withdraw into safe spaces instead. It's little wonder why /tv/ connects with Marvel more.
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>>69733103
>It does not make up for shit pacing, nonsensical plot, stupid, unbelievable character interactions and events, and the ridiculous amount of plot holes.

It works for Marvel and Fox though.
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>>69732860

That's what your mother said when you were born.
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>>69733140
>my movie isn't shit because the movies it competes against are shit

Nothing I said has anything to do with marvel or fox.
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>>69731966
I still do not quite understand the reference...
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He's the boldest and most uncompromising mainstream director right now. Only people who hate him are cucks.
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>>69732349
No it doesn't. Your post reveals your fanboism.

Snyder is a middle-of-the-road director making capeshit. His movies are littered with obvious symbolism because that's what he's been instructed to do. Marvel locked down the family friendly capeshit market so WB decided they'd wrap their movies in a nonsensical, jarring "maturity" in the hopes that people like you would look for something that isn't there.

Terms like "graphic novel" are invented for fanboys to feel ok about consuming their kiddie media.
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>>69733306
social dissonance: the post
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Alright...

*takes off specs*

Let me tell you what's wrong with Mr. Zack Snyder. To put it simply, his only problem is that he doesn't care about nerd culture. That's it. That's all. Satisfied? Good. Now run along and join the other sheep. Bye. Bye!

*sits there*

Oh, you're still here? Good, you've passed the test. The truth is yes, Zack IS too careless, but he's merely guilty of disregarding TOO much nerd culture. Alright, picture this- you're walking through the English countryside and see a cinema. In this cinema you see a film, a film very different from the Simon Pegg-esque upper middle class quip oriented flicks you're used to. Through seeing this film you are shown things- wondrous things. Now, up until this moment you're just a normal bloke. You watch Netlix on the weekend, talk to uni friends on facebook, have a joke and a share witty conversations between classes and generally get on with your life. But this moment changes the entire paradigm. It's something you genuinely never thought possible, but guess what? It happened. It happened and it can't unhappen. Deal with it.

So what do you do? That's the million dollar question, right? What do YOU do? Do you keep it to yourself? Sure, that would make things much easier, but why do that? Why keep it to yourself? Why do something simply because you're in fear of stepping out of the small, narrow box that society has put you in? That's the definition of, to use a much used modern phrase, a cuck. Yes, a cuck.

At the end of the day Zack Snyder is, at the very least, not a cuck. That's something he has over most people here. And that, I think, is something that must be said.
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>>69733286 >>69733009 >>69732971 >>69732942 >>69732904 >>69732868 >>69732835 >>69732803 >>69732766 >>69732713 >>69732677

just one of these represents exponentially more thought/effort than zack snyder exerted over the course of his entire career.
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>>69733492
>nerd culture
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>>69733523
Keep telling yourself that
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>>69733670
I don't need to. It speaks for itself. I also don't need to make an infographic (or 20) to convince others, as its blatantly obvious to everyone who doesn't have literal shit for brains.
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All Snyder, baby.
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>>69733730
I don't need to=I can't

typical nu male
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>>69733730
see
>>69733670
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>Watching Watchmen with commentary
>we shot it like this because it uhhhh looked awesome
>we shot it like this because uhhh it looked great
>people actually argue his intelligence and read this deep into his jock storytelling
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>>69732443
Absolutely everyone sees it. It's incredibly hamfisted.

>thinking that capeshit is cryptic and inaccessible to anyone
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>>69733890
>Absolutely everyone sees it
you are deluded
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>>69732190
>adopted 2 children
Snyder is the guy from my wife's son meme
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>>69733742
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>>69732830
>MoS and BvS isn't spoonfeeding

It is bottom of the barrel. Spoonfeeding at it's worst.
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>>69732792
No it doesn't. It just tries go draw a paralel with Jesus. And it fails horrible because Jesus never killed somebody and when he got caught he accepted his destiny.
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>>69734005
lol, pleb
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>>69733986
>non stop questions about character motivations every day since the movie was released
yeah, way too overt in the exposition.
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It's the easiest symbolism; both to apply and to recognize.
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>>69733487
Great argument.

I'm sure your bedroom is full of batman toys... I mean collectible figurines.
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>>69732310
how exactly do you advance the narrative with symbolism?
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>>69734031
>implying
Jesus is a prophet on the Quran. Snyder is going to pay for not praising Allah in his movies and using one important prophet and not a single mention of Muhammad
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>>69734089
Malick and Bresson. Bruh
Unless you are two pleb to know those guys
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>>69734089
Think about it for a moment.
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>>69733945
But the children weren't born from his wife?
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>manchildren genuienly think there's thematic weight and intelligent ideas in their mass-produced conveyer belt products marketed to little kids
>literally men in spandex hitting each other
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>>69734085
Great argument.
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>>69734222
You are right. They are the sons of somebody else.
He is raising the sons of some random dude.
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>>69734032
>it's good because it's poorly made
>characters making no sense means it's intriguing

It's spoonfeeding. What manchildren like you don't understand is that characterisation doesn't matter when your only reason for making the "movie" is to get two men on screen punching each other so you can secure a franchise for the next decade. It's made for little kids. That's why it contains two men in tights punching each other, anon. It's made for kids to buy toys.
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>>69732506
2012? holy shit. what a classic
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>>69732181
I thought the whole jesus story was just an allegory for robocop?
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>>69734766
Robocop's allegory is handled with so much more finesse than schlock like BvS. Great satire too.
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>that symbolism
nice
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>>69731833
When you create something you put in your work something that interests you/resonates with you/ inspires you. The biblical symbolism seem to inspire Snyder and it goes hand in hand with Snyder's version of the superman so I don't really see the problem. It's heavy handed, sure, but it didn't pull me out of his movies too much.
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>>69735326
>insighting
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>>69734284
Better that than those boys being raised by a system that doesn't give a shit about them
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>>69735326
Kek
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>>69732506
/fit/ version is better
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>>69733910
No you're deluded. You've convinced yourself that anyone that doesn't like this garbage dislikes it because they "didn't get it".

Everyone sees it. His imagery is as subtle as a brick to the face and makes most people cringe.
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>>69734230
it's just a meme, like baneposting. It's pretty fun actually
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>>69737553
Clearly not a meme. Fanboys here get very riled up about capeshit.
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Its the only thing he can do symbolism for
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>>69731906
This. Get your head on straight, OP.
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>>69731833
that's not "biblical", retard

the painting was done 1500 years after the bible. fanart, if anything.
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