Yeah I'm done with this series.
They never should've gone ahead of the books.
Literally everything suffers. The dialogue, the drama, the conflicts, the intrigue, the character development - everything.
Half the time I feel like I'm watching an SNL skit. The rest of the time it's a high school play, complete with awkward pauses, out-of-character moments, predictable plot progression and obvious filler lines that wouldn't pass for clever writing on a CW show.
And it's just so boring, all of it. I literally don't care anymore what happens next or why.
its written for women
what did you expect?
How come every single scene now starts with an awkward silence and quips. It's like they're actually writing their lack of creativity into the script.
Who #teamcersei here? She's only female character well written enough to admire. Before they eventually kill her off i hope she crushes one more of her foes ruthlessly. Then I can ignore this shit show as it panders it way to Dany taking on ice zombies with bran warging in the dragons and winning westeros. Yawn.
>>69681274
I said the exact same thing 2 days ago. It all seems so fucking corny now.
>>69681274
I kinda agree. When Tyrion suggested they play the drinking game "Never Have I Ever" I kek'd so hard. What's next, a game of wine pong?
>>69681274
They didn't go ahead of the books they full on left them.
>>69681274
Cool blog faggot
Ok, see you next week on /got/ commenting the next ep.
>>69681540
>ywn play wine pong with a midget and his dicklets friend while prositutes cavort everywhere
Jdimsa
>>69681575
>see you next week on /got/, anonymous.
I'm an extremely casual viewer of the show but I've noticed a shift in quality and nuance with characters, who are really the foundations of any show in its sixth season. They have become characatures. Varys isn't smart or cunning, he's a eunuch. The dwarf isn't a rhetor, he's a dwarf. Jamie Lannister isn't conflicted or learned from his travels, he's a body guard.
>>69681540
It was a callback, retard! That happened in the first season.
>>69681274
Dropped the show after Season 5 finale. You should've done that as well.
>>69681274
Coming from anime... it seems like a massive "no shit".
Whenever anime goes off an ongoing manga/light novel/whatever, they turn to complete anus once they go off-source.
You need proper writers, not just some jerks who were in charge of tv-izing something.
>>69681641
It is still a contemporary drinking game that has no place in a fictional fantasy world that mimics medieval Europe. It's like having the dialog "See ya later, bro" in a film set in ancient Egypt. It's poor, lazy writing.
See the difference, faggot?
>>69681613
Jesus fuck, Pepe.
>>69681500
agreed. The end of her plotline is where I get of this train.
>>69681797
He literally says he invented it himself, and it's premise isn't really complicated, so I can't see why it can't work. He's a drunk.
Also, I doubt anyone complained the first time.
I do agree on the decline in quality though.
Why did GRRM give his life's work over to a guy who'd written three mediocre movies and his buddy who hadn't done anything at all?
>>69681797
>It's like having the dialog "See ya later, bro" in a film set in ancient Egypt
Sansa in the last episode literally said ''sorry for being such an ass to you'' to jon.
DnD are hacks
>>69682984
Shekels.
>>69681274
The show just feels aimless again like its not really building towards anything.
>>69683151
So, like the books then.
>>69681797
>"See ya later, bro" in a film set in ancient Egypt
Droid, please!
I dropped this shit mid season last season, even before that had to skip half the episodes anyway, and now can't keep watching this shit again.PURESHIT
>>69683056
Yeah, but why them? Why not literally anyone else?
I have an unexpected and newfound enthusiasm for the show. Every week I am ecstatic to see the new trainwreck
>>69681500
Femanon here. Used to love this show but dropped it so hard.
Cersei is the best portrayal of a female character. Bar-none. She's strong, independent and a manipulative mastermind who knows how to play the Game of Thrones like a pro. As someone who likes to self-insert into her character since I'm a total mean bitch like her, I find it stupid and meaningless the way they mistreated her in the show. Putting one of the strongest female characters into a position where she has to face humiliation and drink dirty floor water really shows how sexist and anti-feminist the show creators are. Just look at how they treated the sand snakes. They set them up as strong, pro-feminist characters with qualities setting them apart from the sheep, but in the next episode they are revealed to be submissive 10/10's here-are-the-tits-for-all-the-man-pigs-watching-the-show. Not saying that sand snakes were the best characters since I think Cersei is the by far the best feminist-friendly character in any tv show to date, but the way the creators treat female characters like pieces of meat or submissive and humiliating roles really shows the black ooze lurking in their sexist little heats. I can't see the show anymore since I get triggered everytime I see Cersei getting mistreated. I'm sorry but the strong sexism and anti-feminism currently surrounding Cersei just made me quit the show and (and we all know how anti-feminist this board is) this board.
>>69681540
d&d know that shit gets you #trending
was saying this on /pol/ the other day, tyrion has become a fkn meme this season with every episode apart from the latest one where he had some lines which didnt involve crackin a shitty low energy 0/10 joke every two sentences
>>69681274
>>69681616
my thoughts exactly
>>69683600
You're the equivalent of guys posting the Drive guy in 'literally me the character' threads.
>>69683600
>independent and a manipulative mastermind who knows how to play the Game of Thrones like a pro
Dogshit, her own Dad accurately summates her character as "you're not as smart as you think". Cersei believes herself to be this political genius, but she's just very good at acting like she knows what's going on. Everything she does explodes in her face.
>>69683600
>mastermind
>cersei
you can only pick one.
>>69683600
>show's been running for over half a decade
>no more than a couple chapters of the book have been finished
>>69681797
>drinking games are a modern invention
pretty sure humans have been drinking for longer than we've had written language.
>>69686464
>he's still releasing preview chapters of the unreleased book
I have no idea what that fat fuck is doing, does he think he needs to maintain hype by trickle feeding some material? the show does that.
>>69686770
I bet your mother is a cunt
>>69683600
Embarassing
>>69681616
At least Danny is consistent.
>>69681616
Official term you're looking for is flanderization. Brienne and Jon have also lost all character development along the line.
WOW this show is SO bad. I'm boycotting D&D and their shit. NEVER torrenting this again.
>>69686770
This. Just like feminism and homosexuality didn't exist in Rome, because they didn't use those exact terms.
>>69681616
It's called flanderization, and you are completely right.
At least anything fucking happens in this show, contrary to Better Call Saul, which turned out to be boring bullshit.
Hell, i think I mighthink say it's better than source books for the same reason - because what significant exactly happened in the dance with dragons? Literally fucking nothing, except for Jon's and Theons chapters. Tyrion was on a boat, Quentin did nothing but died, Victorion was funny, but didn't really contribute to the plot.
what did she mean by this face?
>>69681644
i'm staying for the episode 8 and 9 battles which are always fun
>>69681616
Exactly this. And every character is basically black and white in terms of character and who is on whose side.
It is now very clearly X vs X, Y vs Y etc. There's no nuance. The best part of Game of Thrones was the political game and not knowing exactly who to trust or who was on whose side. And no, that's not le shock value if D&D are here.
I know it has to change slightly due to the attention slowly being drawn to the common threat beyond the wall, but still, it's lost all nuance
>>69687935
Agreed massively.
The nuance is dead, now this is just your typical medieval fantasy show.
>>69681274
Is it the shows fault for starting before the books were finished or GRRM's fault for being lazy about writing them?
>>69683674
>tyrion has become a fkn meme this season with every episode apart from the latest one where he had some lines which didnt involve crackin a shitty low energy 0/10 joke every two sentences
This. Getting a bit tired of Tyrion having little to say other than cringey, predictable comic relief lines. They try too hard to make him a 'favourite'
tyrion hasnt had a good story arc since he was hand of the king, his adventure in season 1 was based too
>>69683600
>Cersei is the best portrayal of a female character. Bar-none. She's strong, independent and a manipulative mastermind who knows how to play the Game of Thrones like a pro.
Unfortunately, she's a vain idiot.
Yeah, its pretty bad now. Even before it had its really stupid moments where it veered from the books, or when they were just shoveling boobs in my face, but now it's like 100% that.
>>69683600
>Manipulative mastermind
>Funds crazy fanatics that end up jailing her and making her march the street naked while peasants throw shit at her
![Game-of-Thrones-game-of-thrones-37058386-500-250[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/n60p852.gif "Game-of-Thrones-game-of-thrones-37058386-500-250[1].gif")
>>69681473
>It's like they're actually writing their lack of creativity into the script.
How about that scene where Tyrion's struggling to pull some banter out of these two, only to realize that they're both as interesting as watching paint dry?
Do youse think D&D did a good job with the first few seasons?
When they were literally working 100% from source material, I unironically enjoyed it a lot. There were a few things I wasn't too keen on, but as adaptations go it was pretty good. Then we started to see more and more deviations from the book, and the show progressively turned to shit imo.
>>69681500
>she's only female character well written enough
but Yara exists
>>69688460
MUH SLAVERY CRACKA
WE WUZ OPRESSED EVEN IN FICTIONAL TV SHOW
>>69688465
Seasons 1 and 2 were great
Season 3 was also good but had a noticeable dip
Season 4 is when it started falling off a cliff
>>69688465
It wasn't really progressive IMO. It was good across the board until season 3, then nosedived into syfy channel tier writing out of no where in season 4. it did get progressively worse from there if thats what you mean
>>69688512
>>69688518
Yeah agreed, I just find it interesting that they can produce a very good show so long as they have no creative control whatsoever, but turn it to shit when they start making their own decisions. The majority of idiots still like it though, so I guess they'll carry on getting their shekels either way.
>>69688031
>>69687935
This is what George RR martin is inevitably going to do in his books and he's struggling to find a way to integrate the main conflict of the series into his novels which are basically political thrillers. He can't. It's been 20 years since the series was started and the others have still done jack-all. Game of thrones/ASOIAF will invariably have a disappointing ending because the fantasy element of the series has always been it's weakness
>>69681427
>lots of rape and naked women, no naked men
>"its written for women"
you, actually dont know any women irl do you.
>>69681473
i blame marvel.
>>69688678
Yeah, I agree. He's written a great medieval thriller... in fact, had there been no confirmed mystical/magical element, all just potential tricks/rumours/etc then I think the series would have been much better.
>>69681575
>/got/
Literally a reddit quarantine zone
>>69688777
Fifty Shades of Grey was a phenomenon among women and the entire thing was rough sex
>>69689340
>rough sex and rape are the same thing
fuck you really HAVENT met a real woman top kek
>>69688777
>no naked men
Do you watch Game Of Thrones?
Which young non-child actor hasn't got naked?
>>69689638
apart from 2 actors pretty much all of them.i just wanna see kits dick ;_;
>>69689494
>rough sex and rape aren't the same thing
right back at you homo
>>69689709
???
>>69688777
women love watching that shit
There's two rape scenes D&D invented just because it's so popular.
They even added a pregnant women being prison shanked in the stomach to make the girls shriek
>>69689917
>>69683600
>Femanon here
>>69681274
What's the matter, anon? You don't like D&D's emmy award winning Ramsay fanfic?
I don't understand why they started to write their own stuff, do they like the smell of their own farts? because most others don't
>>69683411
Because their deal was a TV show on HBO, whereas all the other offers were for ridiculous movie adaptations where they only do the Jon or Dany story.
YOU HAVE NICE PUSSY I LET HORSE FUCK YOU BECAUSE I MAN!
Daenerys: Le smug, powerful woman with a master plan to rule them all!
So is Ramsey shaping up to be the big badie now?why is the whole north sucking his dick?
I for one hate it when a show presents something it's already presented before.
We're obviously going around and around with Daenerys.
>>69690648
>no
>BUT I AM DA MUVER OF DRAGUNS BLAH BLAH
>entitlement
>miraculous turn around
>no
>BUT I AM DA MUVER OF DRAGUNS BLAH BLAH
>miraculous turn around
>MUH BOOKS
I'm a bookfag but I still can't stand this shit. Can we stop pretending the books weren't full of awful prose and bad dialogue, especially in books 4 and 5? Did you fuckers forget about fat pink mast and "sunset found her squatting in the grass"?
The show is at least progressing the plot. There was more forward momentum in the past four episodes of the show than all of books 4 and 5.
>>69688777
>what is appealing to multiple demographics
The writing is for women, the tits and violence are for men. And >>69689917 is right. Ramsay is a sociopathic rapist that women go niagra falls for. I know your BFF tells you that women LOVE nice guys like you, but even pretty girls like her don't always say what they're really thinking.
>>69689994
>equates unpleasant truths about women to fedoras
The guys who dress like this are the guys who white knight for women. Fedoras and female-worship go hand and hand. This is like calling someone a fatty for calling fastfood unhealthy.
>>69690712
I haven't read the books but the drop off is fucking obvious.
>>69690427
>do they like the smell of their own farts?
Do you really need to ask this when the answer is obvious
>>69690838
>Has been burnt by the friendzone
>is a fucking samefag
>>69687539
She had to take a dump
>>69690838
>women like rape
>fedora's are white knights
>>69690838
Yeah, man, you'll never know. People are very strange these days. I used to know a girl. She had a dozen guys. One of them found out about it, beat her up so bad she ended up at a hospital on Guerrero Street.
>>69681274
I'm not done with it yet. But I get what you mean by it feeling like an SNL sketch. They're laying the humor and awkwardness too thick, when they could be using that time to build the characters up, and set-up future events. But it feels like they've stopped building, and now it's only resolutions. We have nothing to look forward to beyond the very shortsighted conflicts resolving themselves.
>>69688086
I don't think the universe had a choice. For all of it's faults, you honestly could not expect a better adaptation than what we got seasons 1-5. No one else would have done anything close to what the show did. And if they didn't start when they had, then the crew and casting would most certainly have been a lot worse.
It's GRRM's fault for not finishing the books. If he just finished TWOW on time, then he could have done the final book just before the show's final season went into production. Or at least have had enough written to feed the show writers good material.
>>69691129
Agree, they knew the problem of making a series on the back of an unfinished book series, all they were after was the $$$ like most people in media, and no matter how much people complain as long as they keep watching they will keep fucking it up.
I watch it because there isn't much better on TV right now.
>>69689917
>There's two rape scenes D&D invented just because it's so popular.
Which ones? I don't recall.
>>69691201
Da fuq? The Americans, the objectively highest rated show of the past 3 years, is airing right now. It doesn't get much "better" than that.
>>69691200
I don't know who you are agreeing with. Because I didn't insinuate that they were all about the money.
In fact, I was making the case that the show was the perfect storm of fortunate events. it's GRRM's fault for not getting the book done, which in turn allowed the show to derail. The show creators are doing their best. The conductor failed.
>>69683600
>I'm a total mean bitch like her
Cringe
Season 6 is fine so far, pretty good season. Better than season 2,3,4 and 5 so far.
>>69691357
>It's GRRM's fault for not finishing the books
>>69690977
literally 9gag
>>69691428
is this bait?
>>69690977
>>69691539
The first few episodes of season 2,3,4,5 were worse than the first few episodes of season 6. The only reason everyone is complaining here is because game of thrones is more popular now so it's cool to hate it..
>>69691528
>literally buttblasted
>>69688274
>best portrayal of a female character
>vain idiot
One does not contradict the other
>>69691773
>>69688086
>grrm can sell the rights a second time for the authentic story
I jumped ship after they bungled the Red Wedding and I don't regret it one bit.
Although I've also lost interest in the books by now. I already can't remember where exactly the story is at and I'm not even looking forward to TWoW any more.
>>69688460
You should realize they represent how normies think.
They don't think beyond some bullshit like muh slaves and just want to enjoy the horrid subplot of meereen.
>>69691328
Not that guy, but I,as the majority of viewers, watch genres, not ratings.
What is a slightly, equal, or damn, less entertaining fantasy out there?
>>69683600
>made me quit the show and this board.
Why are you still here moaning then? Fuck off already.
>>69691495
Seasons 1-3: "Wow we have all this amazing material to work from. Let's just make a 1:1 adaptation. Save for a few contrivances for time restraints"
Season 4: "Hm. We still have some stuff to work with here, but where is it all going? I don't know. But we can't set up too much, or else we might write ourselves into a corner."
Season 5: "Uhm... What do we do now? We have no idea where this is going. What the hell is supposed to happen to Jaime? When is Arya supposed to advance beyond Braavos? Meereen is completely fucked up, and Dany is flown of, how do we bring that story around? What happens when Victarion reaches Meereen? Who wrote that letter? How do we bring Jon back? SHOULD we bring Jon back? What's Doran planning? Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck, we have to figure this all out."
Season 6: "Screw it. Revive Jon. Kill Doran, fuck his plan. Kill Myrcella too many Lannister kids. Kill Bolton, Ramsay needs to be Warden of da Norf. Fuck man, writing these characters are hard, let's just make them look at each other in awkward silence. That way, we don't have to think of dialog."
>>69683600
>manipulative mastermind
She nearly fucking destroyed the lannister-tyrell alliance with her stupidity
She started a war by letting Joffrey kill Ned.
She's not a manipulative mastermind, she manipulated BY masterminds.
>>69691976
GRRM: Let's just kill Renly with a shadow guy..
Season 6 so far is way better than season 5. Probably better than season 4 as well.
GRRM tells D&D exactly what happens, you aren't missing anything guys.
>>69691976
DnD have an idea of where George is going with the story. Jon was always going to be brought back, and Ramsay killing Roose has been foreshadowed. They might not follow the exact same path to get there, but the destination will be the same.
Cutting Dorne was due to budgetary/time constraint, shooting on the Dorne sets was expensive as hell and the Spanish government was fucking them every step of the way, so they just cut the entire plot
>>69692016
Yes, and? Renly was a little fuccboi in the books. But his death caused waves that affected the stories of other characters.
>>69692088
Perhaps they have some idea where it's going. But they can't plot out the story well enough to give it those long foreshadowing details. Because the future is still murky.
Besides, a lot of the entertainment is seeing how the story play out. Not just where it ends up. The earlier seasons played out very closely to the books. The later seasons deviated more and more. Now, it's become obvious that TV writers are trying to fill massive gaps.
There's a difference between adapting events into a show, and creating events for a show. The creation part is hard. But that's what GRRM's material contributed to the show.
>>69692101
And the death of Roose didn't affect anyone or anything?
>>69692059
No, he isn't. He only told D&D about the fate of the main characters. Nothing more. Stop making stuff up on the Internet for attention, fag.
>>69691835
Another shitlord subdued, m'sir.
>>69692396
>Waits ages to get the last word on a dying thread
>Has been rused
No need to thank me, its all in a days work.
>>69692365
Barely. It only passed the torch from one soulless bastard to another more reckless soulless bastard. Instead of attacking blahdeeblah, they're going to attack bloodeebloo. His death made no matter.
Not only that, but the death was lame. Roose just so happens to be eating during the birth of his child. Roose didn't know that his mad dog bastard child he's been insulting, might be a little upset over the birth of a true born. Roose didn't keep any guards or trusted men nearby. Roose gets stabbed once, and has zero fight left in him. Ramsay kills the mother and child on the same day, with witnesses around, and this is never taken notice of.
The devil really is in the details.
>>69692618
>has to believe I'm the same poster to not feel alone with his tumblr memes
Well done, m'sir.
>>69681473
I noticed this too.
They also do the dramatic breathing thing.
This show is garbage, and I'm surprised that they managed to make it worse than last season
>>69692661
>>69692365
Oh yea, and the maester just so happens to burst in with news of the child during that moment. When no one else was permitted in.
>>69691636
This...
54 hours of high production level content has been created and viewership is unprecedented... Normies and NEETS alike are into it.
Season 5 gave some pretty excellent battle scenes... Better than most feature film battle scenes... That Stannis North of the wall pincer... Season 6 is building up for similar things.
Everyone keeps acting like there was some high-level narrative story telling going on in 2,3,4 and 5... But all that was really happening is main characters getting shockingly murdered or raped out of nowhere... This isn't groundbreaking. It's the same shit and it shouldn't be expected to change. Just enjoy the story arc and the handful of meaningful scenes that occur each season... Cause that's all this is.
>>69692795
Did you learn to use ellipses every other sentence in your GoT fanfic forum? What you said is not what OP criticized, but you are probably the kind of person not to notice such a thing.
>>69690648
She's completely lost any kind of narrative arc. With the last couple episodes she's effectively back to where she started when the show began.
>>69691098
Women love the idea of rape and they love it in media.
It's literally the number one female sexual fantasy.
>>69692795
You don't seem to understand the plot or character motivations at all.
Impressive desu
>>69683600
>I'm a total mean bitch like her
>Literally me
>Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked Sense of Humor
>>69683600
>This many people taking the bait
Copied and saved
>>69686464
He wrote himself into a corner by killing off anyone who could credibly carry the plot
>>69688678
The problem is that the reasonable ending at this point is that the white others sweep the seven kingdoms and everybody dies.
The trouble with Martin's NO HEROES! NO HONOR! schtick is that you need heroes and honor if you're fighting a horde of ice zombies (unless it's after the industrial revolution, then you mow them down with a gatling gun)
>>69693003
go to bed bernie
>>69695961
Martin should write the ice zombies as petty, fractious and paralyzed by internal politics just like the rest of westeros
>>69689994
>>69691098
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0diJNybk0Mw
>>69683014
you realise an ass is a donkey, right?
why can't GoT have them?
>>69691636
>>69692795
People like you should just leave /tv/. Ignore the plot and compare the seasons based on the dialogue and directing, and it's incredibly obvious how far the show has fallen. I have a feeling that you both have no conception of anything besides plot.
Will CIA guy kill Jon Snow?
>>69681552
I don't watch this stupid show so call me uninformed, but isn't the general consensus that there's never gonna be another book?
>>69696707
It's possible that he'll finish The Winds of Winter. It's said that he's close.
After that-it's very unlikely.
Best case scenario, Brandon Sanderson finishes it
reminder that the analysis of this fan shits all over your /tv/edditors criticisms, including a lot of what you can read in this thread. the show is not bad. you are a bunch of retards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYYS_xNndMo
>>69696707
Pretty much this.
If you think this book series is going to have any ending (or even one more installment at all), you haven't been paying attention.
>>69683600
>all the butthurt virgins falling for and getting triggered by this
so you supposedly high intelligence losers are not only pathetic, but also dumb as shit
>>69696538
>Will CIA guy kill Jon Snow?
Let's hope so.
>>69681274
They couldn't even follow the books decently enough after the second season, I won't watch this shit until I've read the last two books. What I'm really fucking concerned about is that the fat bastard is going to take influence from D&D to speed up the writing.
>>69697935
Don't worry about that. There will never be another book anyways. I'll just try to see the positive in that fact and be happy that the books ended with Jon Snow dead. Seriously I hate that guy.
>>69681500
She was better in the books where she is far more comically inept.
>Scheming to bring down Bronn because he named Lollys kid Tyrion only for him to become even more rich and influential.
>Giving her entire expensive new fleet to an untrustworthy bastard who absconds with it to become a pirate king.
>Refusing to pay the crowns debts to the iron bank which causes much of Westeros' economy to immediately tank as the bank starts calling in all their debts in Westeros while offering to arm the crowns enemies to overthrow them.
>Arming the faith militant.
>Further fucking up the kings guard.
>Wrecking what's left of her families alliances.
>Giving every one of her failed lackeys over to Qyburn to add to his growing Frankenstein dungeon.
It just goes on and on all while she sits smugly in the red keep, getting drunk and thinking what a clever mastermind she is.
Meanwhile in the show Cersei is only kind of stupid and not nearly as spiteful. If it weren't for Lena's acting chops I could easily see Cersei being a really shitty dull character.
>>69687539
Inner monologue: "Jokes on you. I love horsecock"
i just hate that previous and this season are like: i think and will do exactly like i said
>>69692661
The death was stupid and lame, totally ruining Roose's character. It's a shame that such a fine actor as McElhatton had to quit the show in such a lame way. One may say Roose Bolton was killed twice - by stabbing and by totally undermining his intelligence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HhtIDK31MM
Q: What would be your favourite kind of death in the series?
A:[...] I just don't wanna be stabbed, that's a little bit too obvious
At S5 I started looking at it like a comedy/cheese. I cannot imagine what a normie who hasn't red the books would see in this.
One of my overall biggest problems is that nobody has a plan. Or if they have something it is total shit. You call your series the fucking Game of Thrones! Is this a game to you?
Now that they've shown Based Mace back in King's Landing, it would be nice to see some sort of reaction to Meryn Trant's brutal ritualistic murder. I know they probably didn't like him much, but he was a member of a prestigious order of warriors. They really ought to be investigating what happened to him. Right now it doesn't seem like anything anyone does has an effect on any other location.
>>69698567
It would have been a lot better if he had gone out onto the battlefield and was killed by Stannis.
At least then you could have Brienne find him standing over Roose's body, the guy who helped orchestrate and kill the woman she'd sworn to serve, and have her have to deal with a bit of internal conflict over wanting to kill him for what he did to Renly.
The final scene last episode is really hard to deal with. Its complete bullshit.
>>69698975
They probably don't pay enough attention to know how incongruent newer plot points or character behaviors are with what already existed or was being set up.
It stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of the story and what made it great on the part of D&D
>>69698975
I work with some people who loved the show, but even they are getting tired of it. They flipped out about the Sneks and Oberyn's bitch murdering his family, and one even said that it "feels kind of schlocky now, like Sons of Anarchy in medieval times. But Sons of Anarchy was always like that, so I didn't mind it too much. This is just going to shit."
Keep in mind, one of the showrunners did X Men Origins: Wolverine.
>>69697132
Fuck that, the ending to the Reckoners series was awful.
I dropped the series after that little girl with the skin disease got burned at the stake. The only positive thing that came out of that scene is the mother finally rekindling her motherly instinct even if it was too late.
>>69681274
It is actually better now than it was when it was following the books. Before it was nothing but shock value for gore and sex. Now there's actually some plot.
>>69687539
>can't recognize facial expressions
autism
>>69687539
>"I feel a sneeze coming on, it's almost here"
How come 50% of the show cast is female?
>>69699878
How was the ending to The Wheel of Time?
>>69699748
Talisa was royality in volantis or some shit before she became Westeroses Nurse Nightingale. Having her replacing Jeyne Westerling doesn't really change shit. Robb still breaks his vow to Freys, Late Lord gets buttblasted, Red Wedding occurs for the same reason.
I suppose you could argue that Jeyne showed Robb losing the same way Ned did by doing the honorable thing, rather than whatever it took to win. Rather than dat ass.
>>69688086
Grrm
>>69690642
Unlike most of the viewers. I love Ramsay. I dont think he's the big baddie of the show. The winter is. He's just an edgy character
>>69701210
Do you know who grrm is?
They really fucked up Jaime's character. What is his role in the story at this point other than an enabler of Cersei's misguided and failing attempts to be like Tywin. The chapters detailing the aftermath of war on the riverlands was AFfC saving grace. That was a huge missed opportunity, instead Jaime gets dumped into a butchered Dorne storyline.
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>>69683600
>watching Game of Thrones
Why does this board rehash the same threads over and over?
/tv/ in a nutshell:
>game of thrones sperg hate
>capeshit
>star wars
>dead memes
>pedo and porn threads
Literally the worst board on 4chan, congrats
They couldn't even get the dialouge in this scene right.
>Woe to the Usurper if we had been.
>Our knees do not bend easily
>The Kingsguard does not flee
None of that. The fight was pretty great though. No shakey cam bullshit and nice choreography.
>>69691867
>I already can't remember where exactly the story is at and I'm not even looking forward to TWoW any more.
This is me with Wild Cards, which is why I avoided ASOIAF like the fucking plague. GRRM is an ideas man at best.
>>69696424
Stop torrenting the show then..
I never commented on the acting at all.
Any show that loses good actors/characters to deaths (Tywin, Ned, oberyn) will suffer. Especially since introducing other characters in order to replenish talent is nearly impossible...
Nothing really you can do about it. All you can do now is enjoy the epic set pieces they're going to present with their growing budget...
>>69687686
episode 9 is going to be the biggest battle on the show to date. the budget for that episode alone was $10mil.
I always see people bitch about the show going ahead of the books, when the hell did the last book even come out?
>>69696538
not this season. he ends up saving jon's ass from the boltons.
dropped here
>>69702485
You can't even spell dialogue right.
>>69692697
>>They also do the dramatic breathing thing.
the what
>>69702485
Not so much in that scene, but one of the things I think the show has succeeded at in the past is making the more stilted, archaic parts of the book dialogue sound more natural in the mouths of the characters.
I'm tired of the midget saying "a wise man once said"
To be fair, it's not the show runners fault the fat cunt refuses to write his damn books
>>69702485
I was looking to this dialogue as soon as I knew what the scene was.
>>69703265
The characters just stare at each other and inhale deeply through nostrils clotted with dried boogers and scabs of blood. The microphones receiving this sound are placed under skin-colored patches on the top lip.
That is what you hear during these being stare-downs.
>>69681274
Hey don't drag your fairy shit into my CW verse.
>>69681274
Have you even read the books? 80% of the last two books should have been left on the editing room floor.
>>69681274
Yeah, the dialogue is awful now and the plot has devolved to generic fantasy where everyone will magically be okay at the last minute because it's too expensive to lose star characters.I'll still watch it, though.
Keep it in your quarantine thread.
>>69702676
>mention dialogue and directing
>guy thinks I'm talking about acting
Seriously, grow some understanding about television and film before posting on a board about it. You seem to be incapable of realizing how transparent and uninspired the dialogue is and how mediocre the direction of the scenes is. It used to be passable, if not often pretty good, but now it's just like the OP said, a high school play.
>>69688460
It's an allegory on the modern day struggles of dealing with multiculti co-workers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47MazYDnmaU
It's like the first 2 seasons take place in a different universe.
What scene made you drop the show?
For me it was this., just how absurd it is. So somehow she gets to the northern castle with a boat from the Iron Island in a few days (?).
Bare in mind this scene had a proper build up scene, emphasizing how she's going to take the meanest islanders to save her brother, the heir to the throne.
Then this guy pops up, shirtless, dual wielding, and JUMPS into a group of armorded soldiers, and gets out unharmed with a smug pepe face.
He then threatens to release dogs on them, something so terrible that they just run away.
>>69705595
The sad thing is that basically now everything in the show is executed with that same level of autism
>>69700118
ok so explain it bud
>>69681274
Whats the difference compared to the books?
I never read them
>>69706322
Too many to list. But the show has passed the books now, last book ended with Jon getting knifed.
>>69705595
>What scene made you drop the show?
>Implying anyone who posts itt doesn't spend every Sunday furiously refreshing pirate bay until the torrents go up
I mean except for whichever good goys pay for hbo
>>69706437
So u telling me everything past that point is not in the books cos that is when the writer stopped writing correct?
>>69705595
>He then threatens to release dogs on them, something so terrible that they just run away.
Dog teeth slice through steel armor like a knife through butter m8, that's just skience fact
>>69706437
Wait so Jon coming back from death isnt written in the books?
>>69705595
>Bare in mind this scene had a proper build up scene, emphasizing how she's going to take the meanest islanders to save her brother, the heir to the throne.
Literally the victory of shitty writing over good writing
>>69705595
I can't quite remember. Early season 5 something felt bad. I knew it wasn't sitting well, but I still had hope. By the time the "you need the bad poosi" part I was irrevocably done watching it for anything other than it being a bad joke.
I think it was the scene where Aria laughs at finding out her aunt is dead. That stupidty got to me
>>69690712
True, GRRMs prose is pretty awful, but the difference is he can keep a good plot going.
>>69702031
>trump memes
I'll see you there
>>69681274
regardless of quality of story I'm still going to watch. It is the most aesthetically pleasing show on television and no show really compares.
The sets/costumes/and cinematography on GOT are top 5 all time in television history
ARYA WILL WARG INTO THE TITAN BEFORE GOING BACK TO WESTEROS
>>69706740
No, but it's foreshadowed fuck load more than it was in the show to the point book readers had already decided he was coming back before it was ever televised. Stuff to do with Jon skinchanging and Melisandre seeing him go from a man, to a wolf, to a man again and being the Prince that was Promised.
In the books it's been predicted to involve a combination of Jon being warged into Ghost and Melisandre reviving the body by sacrificing Shireen who is still at Castle Black. It's been done differently in the show as Jon isn't a warg and they had Stannis bring Shireen with him and burnt her himself.
In fact George made it so obvious, he felt it would be dishonest to ever outright tell anyone that Jon is dead in an interview. He just tells you to read more carefully and make your own mind up. That's why when HBO took the opposite approach and kept telling everyone he was plain dead, everyone was suspicious as fuck because there was already overwhelming evidence he'd be back in TWOW. It's definitely not just a show thing, even if its been unpublished so far.
>>69706740
Not yet.
>>69706891
>cinematography
>every scene in bog standard shot/reverse shot close ups with shallow focus and occasional landscape establishing shots
wow
>>69681274
Waiting two years between each season would've been a better move.
>>69706966
So when is George gonna write again?
Kek all the changes the books will have now compared to show
>>69707013
>wow
go be a faggot somewhere else
>>69687539
literally the joker
>>69706891
>cinematography
Yet another thing about got that used to be good
>>69700118
I wouldn't go that far, I think she's just a shitty actress
Then again she also thought doing Genysis was a good idea so maybe you're right
>>69681274
Couldn't have put it better myself OP.
It's just awful, my old man fell asleep during it, he's never done that before.
>>69704504
Aw, did you take the bait?
Sorry to hear that buddy
>>69706891
>I watch it for the cinematography
Is that what you tell your friends?
>>69705595
that fucking scene. oh my fuck.
>end previous season with her rallying the ironborn to save theon
>they arrive there
>fight a bit
>see man dual wielding daggers with no shirt and 4 good men
>call a retreat because dogs
>achieve literally NOTHING, absolutely ZILCH development of any kind
bravo
>>69705050
>we don't drink
>>69688777
>lots of rape
Twilight and Fifty Shades of Gray say hi
This is what women want, that's why they want millions of savage muslim "migrants" in the country
All I care about now is where Bran's story is going.
>>69702763
>Blackwater Bay
>It's just a giant explosion and a bunch of actors clumped together with rocks falling on their heads
>Meme dwarf charges in and takes off a guys leg
>COST 20 MILLION SHEKELS
It's going to be terrible.
>>69683600
Holy shit you are retarded. Cersei is a dumb bitch who think's she's better than she really is, and is the cause of all of her own problems.
So ironically you're probably right that you're similar to Cersei in that way.
But strong woman? Top kek.
>>69688465
Season 1 was legitimately very good. No coincidence that it was the most loyal to the books by far, but it also had top notch leads (Mark Addy, Sean Bean, Harry Lloyd).
Season 2 was a noticeable drop in quality. It was painfully obvious D&D had a personal vendetta against a fictional character (Stannis). His opening in the second book made for perfect television, instead they pushed it to the middle of the opener like an afterthought. Qarth was a clusterfuck of epic proportions. Only thing handled well was Theon's arc and Blackwater (prob best episode in the series).
Season 3 was better on the whole than 2 but could not reach the peaks of Blackwater.
Seasons 4-5 were mostly terrible. Oftentimes laughably bad writing, poor characterization, deviating from superior source content for no reason, confusing casting replacements (Daario, third Mountain), etc.
Season 6 has actually been alright. Episode 1 was a flaming turd but the past three have been entertaining and the past episode actually had some intrigue (something the show has lacked for some time).
>>69707996
I agree with this assessment.
D&D clearly don't understand some of the characters though. Ramsay is a clear example; in the books he's quite monstrous and has a base cunning, but he's feral and lacks true foresight. He certainly is no shirtless dagger OP or 20 good men meme generator like he is on the show.
>>69707996
>Season 6 has actually been alright.
>>69702485
>Young Ned doesn't look or sound anything like he's supposed to
>"NO, NOW IT ENDS. (Nothing personnel, kid)"
>No Dawn
>DUAL WIELDING
>No Hightower
They fucking butchered it; what are you even talking about?
>>69708160
They don't understand any of the characters. They just liked the lolsurprise aspect of the novels. The reason they made the show was to film the Red Wedding. They don't give a shit about crafting a good story or exploring the world (or human nature for that matter). To be a good writer one must possess some degree of self-awareness and be capable of introspection. D&D are arrogant, self-righteous hollow men. Actually, I don't think they even understand characterization (probably the most essential aspect of making great television).
>>69708242
The show is playing it extremely straight and simple. There is no subterfuge. That is not a good thing. However, the Jews have made it painfully clear they cannot construct a complex narrative. They are succeeding at making a mediocre television show. Better than failing miserably at making a good/great television show (though not quite as amusing).
I like the game of thrones and don't give a friggin heck what /tv/ has to say about it
>>69708242
Not than anon but he's right.
Season 4 and 5 were partly so awful because you knew they could be so much better.
Season 6 is just entertainingly middle-tier, like it's past the event horizon of bad television so nothing it does now can really "kill" the show because the show's already dead. I guess you could complain about it desecrating its corpse, but corpse-fuckery isn't as severe a crime as murder.
>>69705595
Don't forget that he was taking so long to unlock the dogs, that if they only acted quickly, they could have stopped him.
>>69707712
>meme dwarf and genius/witty meme gay man are everyone's favorite meme-team
>They haven't done anything other than drop a few one-liners
>Still most people's favorites because of troubled pasts
We're getting memed hard
>>69708160
>They don't understand the characters
The root of the problem. They don't understand the story or world much either, but it's the same thing
>>69689494
Found the fatfuck feminist.
I give my girl a good dicking every Friday. Landwhales like you would probably consider the stuff we do rape.
>>69690430
Would probably have turned out better to be honest.
>>69701259
I liked it allot. The entire last book is dedicated to the last battle, and its glorious. As a side note Jordan wrote the epilogue before he died.
>>69711563
Excellent. I'm book 6 now.
>>69681427
FPBP
>>69692101
He may have been a fuccboi but he was still kinda cool and charismatic. In the show he was a flaming wimpy faggot
>>69681274
I like it, especially since they ditched that boring Stannis plot.
>>69701371
Like that other anon said the devil is in the details
The show doesn't paint how close Jon was to Robb and to Arya so it falls flat
Doesn't help Jon's actor is such a dead fish that you'd think he'd be Cat Tully's bastard instead
>>69681427
When did all these MRA retards migrate from readit? The board is an embarrassment to browse these days.
>>69706966
>had Stannis bring Shireen with him and burnt her himself.
Man they raped Stannis. I miss his old maester ;_;
>>69683600
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>>69712354
it's always been like this, you autist. i've been a 4chan regular since launch. it's always been filled with MRAs and sweaty neckbeards. stop talking about the glory days of /tv/. they never existed. just admit that this board has always been shit.
>>69705595
I really miss based Hound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tozme1J7PpY
Why was this fight scene so much more realistic than that fag ramsay's?
>>69710978
>being this much of a pathetic virgin
>>69710978
>inventing a girl to seem alpha and gain approval from other /tv/ autists
typical beta
>>69681274
>They never should've gone ahead of the books.
Not the show's fault they superseded the books in importance.
>>69713356
Fuck you, we used to have threads about proper cinema and good TV just some 3 or 4 years ago. Then the channel autism fuckwads invaded and look at us now.
>>69682984
25th Hour was a fucking amazing movie faggot.
