https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX90qVXcRuE
this looks like one of the worst things ever put to screen
WE
>>69654810
>middle ages
>black aristocrats
>>69654895
WUZ
when memes gone too far
>>69654810
Didn't Capulets and Montagues realise their feud was pointless after Romeo and Juliet died? Like I thought the point of the ending was to show their deaths may be tragic but at least some good came out of it by uniting Verona? Why is a war breaking out? fuck this
>>69654983
>black Italian noble family
I know Romeo and Juliet isn't real but this is a pretty big stretch
>>69654810
BLACKED
say what you want
but if you don't think this shit is getting out of hand, then there's something wrong with you
He's not even a nigger tbqh
He looks like a dark Italian
Why /tv/ so obsessed with race mixing
>>69654810
i'd rather watch tromeo and juliet
>>69654810
Being star crossed means that misfortune will befall you. So what is the title trying to imply? That there will still be misfortune?
>>69655213
>He looks like a dark Italian
american education
>show bombs
>cancelled after first season
>people from the show make a stink about how the hate was because of a black cast
>SJWs and general tumblr-esque folk who never watched the show make a big stink about racism in tv/film
>we're made out to be bad people for not liking something that was just fundamentally bad
>>69654810
>You know what needs another adaptation? ROMEO AND JULIET
>Brilliant!
>>69655213
I could care less about race mixing fictional characters, but don't try and sell me a period drama with clearly black nobles in Italy.
>>69655036
MONTAGUES
I know the author who wrote the book this is based on. AMA.
>>69655104
Yeah, I was thinking the and thing too.
>>69655877
Are they a fuckwit in real life or just when they put a pen to paper?
>>69655260
based James Gunn
>>69655260
Gnomeo and Juliet was pretty good to be honest
IZ YOU BE OR NOT TO BE MY NIGGA
I have no idea why white males consume any form of media at all anymore if all it does is trigger them. If anything it makes romeo and juliets love twice as forbidden.
Lol, racewar
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaa
>>69654810
Wait a minute I recognize that actor...
>>69654810
>Star-Crossed
>Not "Star-Cross'd"
Fucking plebeians.
![rustled-my-jimmies-planet-of-the-apes[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/64dhV1X.jpg "rustled-my-jimmies-planet-of-the-apes[1].jpg")
>>69658847
>that jew nodding approvingly while Harriet the Spy is violated
firmly. ruffled.
>people posting 4chan memes on the comment section
Cringe. Is this board made up entirely by kids?
>>69654810
Kek, I saw this filming while I was studying abroad in Salamanca.
The premise sounds terrible
>>69655928
SHIEEET
>>69660515
Someone posted this on /pol/
that's why it's filled with memes
>bmwf
>>69654810
FUCKING JEWWWWSSS
Why is /tv/ so angered over a tv couple?
Well this is the first time I've seen an ugly Romeo casted.
That being said, who was the most handsome Romeo, /tv/?
>>69655137
>Italians
>White
>>69654810
>a sequel to Romeo and Juliet
just awful
>Still Star Crossed
is this a fucking parody?
>Capulets are now black
in the fucking 1300's in Italy
>ABC
I usually could care less about black or white washing but this is absolutely ridiculous
>>69663914
fucking idiot
>>69654810
>>69658847
>*licks lips*
>>69664577
>licks
>no smacks
one job
>>69654810
>black royal prince in late medieval italy
For shits sake, I get what they're trying to do but at least have some measure of respect for the reality of the historical context, fuck even the fashions looks like it's been rough fucked by the 19th century.
>>69664428
Answer the fucking question.
>>69663914
Id honestly be butthurt about even without the forced diversity shit. A sequel to Romeo and fucking Juliet? How retarded can people be? Why not just make your own fucking story that takes place in the time period with the same concepts and call it something original? Beyond. Fucking. REEEEEEEEEEtarded. Seriously I fucking love Baz Luhrmans R&J and that has gay nigger Michael from Lost but this shit is ridiculous
THIS IS THE DUMBEST ""CONTROVERSY"" EVER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors
THESE ARE BLACK ITALIANS
HERE ARE TIMES WHEN INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE HAPPENED AND PEOPLE GOT PISSED OFF
http://www.pbs.org/black-culture/explore/interracial-marriage-relationships/#.Vzu7KWN_mFc
IN THE PREVIEW ITFUCKINGSELF IT SHOWED PEOPLE PISSED ABOUT INTERRACIAL AND ALSO SHOWED TWO BLACK PEOPLE KISSING
THE POINT IS INTERPRETABLE AS INTERRACIAL = BAD WITHIN ITS OWN TRAILER
THEREFORE YOU GUYS ARE FUCKED UP AND HAVE BEEN BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>>69665013
But did moors occupy positions of nobility during this time period in Italy?
>>69665025
i've literally never been on /pol/ in the years of me visiting 4chan.
(You) are a straight up retard
>>69665013
>>69665025
Im not mad about the black casting. I'm mad I live in a time where ideas are so lazy they're actually making a sequel to fucking Romeo and Juliet. A story where the titular characters both die at the end. I feel like i'm living in a parody universe. "Still Star-Crossed" REALLY?
>>69665025
Fuck off, the reason people hate this shit is because it's completely unnecessary. Romeo and Juliet is a simple story, 2 kids fall in love, their parents hate each other, then they kill themselves from being stupid kids. The end. How the fuck can you expand that? Not to mention the fact Romeo, an Italian guy, is cast as a black guy screams "WE WANT THE SJW TUMBLR AUDIENCE!"
>>69654810
An interracial re-imagining of a classic? How original. Wow.
ABC stands for Absurd Black Cocks right?
>>69655877
Are the Montagues black in his book?
>>69665013
The Moors were kicked the fuck out of Italy 200 years before Romeo and Juliet. The settlement they went to was pillaged and destroyed by Christians 100 years later.
Fuck off.
>>69654810
The Baz Luhrmann version is the only version you ever need.
>watching media based on Shakespeare that was made in the 21st century
Bad idea. Macbeth was pretty good but I can't think of anything else to come out in a long time that was decent.
>>69666392
Agreed, although I'd recommend reading the original play if you can get past the language and format.
I studied it in college and there's a ton of beautiful stuff that doesn't make the movie, and that really needs to be explained to be understood. But once you do, you can see why Shakespeare is so revered by English professors.
>>69666628
I still wanna see this.FAIR IS FOUL
>>69665013
1. Verona is nearly as far as you can get from Sicily while still being 'Italian'.
2. The North/South divide was even stronger in the past and to play it like it doesn't exist is an insult both to the renaissance and the struggle to make 'Italy' a reality.
3. Moors were North African but the term is not based on ones race.
4. As the other guy said Moors didn't exist in Sicily when R&J is set.
I know this is bait but I don't like it how history is now being reinterpreted to fit a new agenda. Its always happened but if you want to tell a story with a black cast there is a rich black history you can use.
JUST
i've literally never been so pissed off in my entire life
>>69667470
>first worlders
Fucking "DIVERSITY" strikes again!
On classic literature!
>>69655213
>He looks like a dark Italian
Retarded son of a bitch.
Italians are "white" or caucasoid at least, sometimes with a "tan", especially in Sicily, but the "tanned" italians would have semitic features instead of mulatto or negroid features with curly negroid hair.
Kill yourself you fucking vermin.
>>69654810
WE CLASSICAL NOW,AYE
>>69654810
If they want to make interracial Shakespeare, why don't make another Othello?
>Tyromeo, Tyromeo, where for art tho Tyromeo?
>WHAT'S IN A NAME, BITCH?
An interracial Romeo and Juliet would actually make a lot more sense than the usual racelift rehash, but I have no idea what the fuck this is supposed to be. Who the fuck cares about Benvolio or what's-her-face?
>>69655213
>He looks like a dark Italian
>>69668545
I would watch an entire movie like this without a bit of irony.
>>69655104
also why the hell is an italian named aeschylus
>>69667470
>he's still in the anger phase
i literally can't stop laughing. this kind of stuff doesn't anger me anymore, just makes me laugh at the absurdity of life. i literally cannot tell the difference between satire and real life anymore.
>>69654810
JESUS CHRIST, THE ROMEO IS BLACK AND THE JULIET IS WHITE! DID ANYONE NOTICE THIS?!
ayy lmao @ that fat neo-nazi janitor deleting my post
also
>>69665556
>>69665755
>>69665952
If you don't like something just don't fucking watch it dude. Jesus Christ, there are like 100x more white male/ white female relationships on tv than any other racial parings. You guys cherry pick one thing and talk nonsense about jews and SJW's. Literally the same level as tumblr. Get a life.
>>69669044
NO I DIDN'T! MY ALL CAPS LETTERS ARE BLOCKING THE SCREEN!!!
>>69655877
How does it end? The title doesn't make sense. Does it explain in the book?
>>69655211
>>69655445
>>69658548
while it is getting iut of hand, think of the bright side. theyre getting so cocky with this shit its bound to fail and blow up in their faces. lets just sit back and watch it happen
>>69665556
>only have been here for years
>not decades
Opinion invalid
>>69654810
meh, why shouldn't our culture die with our race?
>go to the fb page of the show
>trailer uploaded to fb
>check comments
>all of them are girls
>saying it looks good, great and will look forward
W-what's happening?
WHY
>>69654810
2Romeo 2Juliet: Still Star Crossed Again: The Revenge
>>69669542
There's actually a clue in your image...Sockpuppets.
>>69669542
It's 2016 anon, bulls are in style
>>69668328
Tbh is features look pretty Caucasoid, at least from that side profile.
It's not like he looks like Boyega.
>>69655485
This fucking this. I just want some fucking believability and immersion
>>69663950
DaVinci for sure
Can someone please make a mlk movie starring an asian?
>>69658548
It was originally based on a feud that had been going on for so long that the original reason was forgotten.
So in the original the forbidden love is forbidden for arbitrary reasons.
Now I'm rooting for the families because now the feud makes sense.
>it's another Shakespeare with a twist
>>69654810
AYOOOOOO HOL UP
>>69669931
MLK as a character is based around African-American struggle.
Romeo and Juliet is a timeless classic and can be adapted to many different audiences and races. The whiteness of either house isn't important or integral to the narrative at all.
Did you complain when Romeo & Juliet was portrayed as two warring American gangs in the 90s in the Leonardo Dicaprio movie?
>>69665013
AND CAN YOU GUESS WHAT THE STORY IS GOING TO BE ABOUT?
DO YOU THINK ALL PEOPLE DISGUSTED BY THE INTERRACIAL ARE GOING TO BE PORTRAYED AS THE GOOD GUYS?
NOW WHO IS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT?
>>69654810
At least when white actors did it back in the day they bothered try make themselves look like they were a black character.This is just pathetic.
wow it's another white people mad thread, I don't remember you faggots complaining about prince of persia being played by jake gyllengal , christian bale as an egyptian or emma stone as half asian but only if it fits the narrative of white's being replaced you faggots complain . who cares it's a tv show
>not even 20% of the U.S. Is black
>every godam show or movies are 80% filled with blacks
>where are thou Romeo
>SHEEEEIIIITT
>>69670127
Romeo and Juliet is a timeless classic with a very specific setting Verona, Italy.
Suggesting that the setting is unimportant to the story is to undermine the author's original intent with the story. Shakespeare could have set his story in London, England, but he chose not to.
If you are willing to undermine the setting of this classic, why are you not willing to undermine the setting of a historical figure?
It's just a coincidence, goy
>>69670409
Tons of people complained about those. What are you talking about?
>>69669931
Come on! they would even let an asian dude finish the MLK statue let alone play the guy.
>>69670561
Name 5 shows with 80% black people in it.
>>69654810
>still star crossed
Literally means "They're Still Dead."
>>69666392
The Zeffirelli adaption is GOAT. Also you could see how a Romeo and Juliet with actual italian actors look like.
>>69670288
Why not just making an Otello adaptation? why going with all this trouble to make an OC Donut Steal story?
>>69671392
Those two are Italian?
>>69671498
Kek no they are british
>>69670288
I can't look at Orson Welles anymore without thinking of memes.
>>69671551
God damn it
I keep looking for examples of Italians who look just like other white people, but then this happens.
>>69671041
Fresh Prince of Bel Air
The Cosby Show
Everybody Hates Chris
My Wife and Kids
The Wayans Bros.
Actually, those shows, are like 100% black. What they should have done is added enough white characters to outnumber the black characters 5-to-1 so that they can accurately reflect nationwide demographics. There shouldn't be a shot of Will Smith without 5 white people in it. There should have been 25 white people wandering around Chris Rock's apartment. It's just not believable otherwise.
>>69664707
He was a decent Mercutio thou desu
>>69670409
>>69670409
Wow its another faggot pretending to be offended on behalf of other people that didn't even read the valid criticisms in this thread.
ITS A FUCKING SEQUEL TO ROMEO AND JULIET YOU STUPID FUCK. THIS IS BEYOND SOULLESS REMAKE TERRITORY, THIS IS BEYOND DEVOID OF CREATIVE IDEAS TERRITORY, THIS IS BEYOND SPECIAL OLYMPIC RETARDS WRITING A SCREENPLAY TERRITORY. JUST FUCKING WRITE YOUR OWN STORY AND CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN GOD DAMN ROMEO AND JULIET FOR RECOGNITION REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I fucking love when 4chan gets a hold of something on YouTube and destroys the comments section.
>>69671991
>>69671991
I'm not denying that. I literally love everything about that adaptation because it was STILL Romeo and Juliet and had tons of original ideas and creative style.
>>69654810
Am I the only one that actually liked the Romeo and Juliet with Leo in it? It was cheesy as hell but rolled with it pretty well.
>>69672146
>MFW When watching R+J in high school and everyone said it was shit because they spoke stupid
Lucky us Australian kids don't have access to guns.
>>69672157
read the thread. lot of people loved it. its this adaptation that's poorly made and deserve the hate
>>69669045
>Jesus Christ, there are like 100x more white male/ white female relationships on tv than any other racial parings
Not for long.
>>69654810
Jesus Christ. Is it just me, or has television gone full retard lately?
>Be in junior high
>They show the old R and J with the girl's tits on full display.
They could never do that nowadays.
>>69672290
>lately
SHAKESPEARE LITERALLY WROTE A PLAY ABOUT AN INTERRACIAL RELATIONSHIP
AND YET THEY MAKE THIS SHIT
>>69671901
>Cherry picks so hard, he has to list sitcom TV shows that aired in the 90's and in the early 2000's
Why didn't anybody complain about "forced diversity" back then when those shows aired? And during that same time frame there were 100 times more all white sitcoms.
Why didn't you complain about an all Hispanic cast in TV shows like George Lopez or a all Jewish cast in Seinfeld.
Eitherway nice try, I'll still be here waiting for you to list me 5 all black TV shows that currently goes on in this "SJW forced diversity world"
>>69672222
except its not an adaption. Its a SEQUEL to Romeo and Juliet. This isn't even like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead. It's like a fucking Electric 2 Boogaloo parody, but serious and real.
>>69672426
>Why didn't anybody complain about "forced diversity" back then when those shows aired?
Maybe because social media didn't exist in its current form.
>14th century black european nobles
Always the same bullshit. Always the same lies.
>>69672455
Then tell me why those shows got high viewership ratings and had so many seasons?
>>69672426
>Why didn't anybody complain about "forced diversity" back then when those shows aired?
because those shows had their own original creative ideas, could stand on their own and didn't coax on name recognition and controversy?
>>69672426
I suppose this is my fault. I used your post to sarcastically make fun of that other post and made you type all this shit for nothing. I tried to make it obvious but I guess I failed. Whoops.
>you will never get a faithful adaptation of shakespare
>>69672292
She wasn't even 18 for this and they're going to keep showing it in schools for years don't worry
>>69672426
>>Why didn't anybody complain about "forced diversity" back then when those shows aired?
Because it didn't feel forced.
>>69672524
Because they depicted a normal family with strong values and NO RACE MIXING
>>69672157
No its a great movie with lots of creativity, style and experimentation. I'll post a picture of my Blu Ray copy if someone thinks i'm bandwagon hopping against this retard sequel
>>69672614
>she wasn't even 18
Doesn't that make this "you know what"?
>>69671392
Best version for those tits alone.
>>69672629
I think that's the argument I'm making here.
How do you know what is and what's not being "forced". Why do you think that everything is being "forced" when you are really just nitpicking from one or two sources as an example. Don't you think you're being a little bit of a conspiracy theorist?
>>69672725
Maybe in clapistan.
Kiera Knightly showed her tits when she was 14 in the Hole.
I won't lie,. THIS IS FUCKING GREAT! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
So many triggered faggots here, Go back to fapping to your cuck porn
>>69672881
>didn't read the thread
>thinks hes smart
kill yourself :)
>>69672593
Go to Britbongland and catch one of their middle English stage plays. That's the closest youll get.
>>69672881
made me reply
>>69672881
>the people that are angered by an interracial relationship masturbate to interracial porn
dude what?
>>69655213
Looks Moorish, to be honest.
>>69672881
In reality he would be two different white men with different ideals.
Nice try
>>69673073
Who do you think shitposts with that BLACKED shit?
Racist Australians. Redundant but necessary to emphasize.
>>69673073
It's like how homophobes often get caught in a gay orgy in a freeway rest stop. They're pretty clearly just overcompensating.
>>69673150
And what about all the ones who don't?
>>69663950
1968 Zac Efron obviously.
>>69672292
also the actress that played Juliet was only 13 at the time but they were allowed to show her tits because """""" art """""
>>69666628
Coriolanus.
>>69665013
>north Africans are sub-Saharan Africans
>>69673234
They still lust for gay cock, they just don't get caught.
>>69673347
You're fucking joking
>>69672614
THESE are only 13?
>>69672725
Well, when the jude does it, that means it is not illegal.
>>69665013
>moors
>didn't even read his own wiki link
>>69673564
You mean to tell me that the majority of anti-gay people are secretly gay?
It's unlikely to be against something without secretly wanting it?
How morally bankrupt are you?
>>69673150
It's like how the most vocal progressives are actually extremely racist and sexist if you look at the way they hold women and ethnic minorities to a much lower standard of behaviour.
>>69673609
I get where you're coming from but an interestingly large amount of people that lead an anti-gay agenda end up getting caught doing gay shit.
>>69665013
>North Africans AREN'T black when it's Egyptians (i.e. WE WUZ KINGS)
>North Africans ARE black when it's Moors
you faggots need to make up your minds
>>69673569
14, I mistyped, look it up on IMDB
>>69655213
al pacino is a dark italian
this guy is definately a nig nog
>>69674015
I think Al Pacino is pretty light for an Italian desu
What is it with Italian actors looking so much whiter than a handful of Italian people on the street?
>>69673637
Nope. That doesn't happen.
>>69673609
I'm saying just about everybody is different degrees of bi, and homophobes are super sexually insecure and they lash out at gays because of it.
>How morally bankrupt are you?
Well, I'm not a homophobe. So at least I'm not that morally bankrupt.
Cultural appropriation needs to stop
>>69655211
it's because whiteness was getting out of hand
>>69674183
i agree. english people shouldn't write plays about italians
>>69674296
:^)
>>69674015
Show me a significantly lighter Italian than Pacino. They all look like him.
>>69674265
No, whites were just doing their things. then blacks came and started crying "WE WANT A PIECE OF THE CAKE TOO".
>>69674132
>That doesn't happen
Really?
>"how can you expect these poor oppressed people of colour NOT to rob and rape and violently assault people?! They were literally SLAVES just 200 years ago! You need to give them lower entry requirements for college and employment because they're black and simply can't compete in this RACIST world. And make sure you hire your quota of women regardless of their qualifications, because expecting them to earn their position like men is just SEXIST!"
If I was black or a woman I'd feel extremely patronised by this attitude of "there there, gentle victim, we'll save you from these evil oppressors!"
>>69674326
>whitey dindu nuffin
interesting narrative but no, white people were over-represented since they were the market. maybe some day we'll get a balance but currently it's a tug-of-war
>>69674132
>i'm not a homophobe so atleast i'm not that morally bankrupt
You completely missed my point.
Isn't it wrong to think that someone's conviction against something is based on them secretly taking part in it?
I prefer to think that mankind is capable of believing that something is wrong through personal values and beliefs with no ulterior motive.
>>69674396
What does over-represented even mean? They were just doing their job, there should be no moral obligation in any industry to shove faces in only based on their colour.
>>69674396
Romeo and Juliet takes place in Verona, Italy.
Verona, Italy is white and was even whiter when this story was first written.
A story set in this setting should have an all white cast.
Meanwhile blacks in America are about 13% of the population, but have been over represented in American media for decades.
>>69674320
me 2bh
>>69674524
it's your mistake believing it's due to moral obligation rather than just a natural reflection of our contemporary, globalised market. these things solve themselves.
i don't know what the concern is though. i'm not going to watch it (i doubt anyone on /tv/ has ever cared about shakespeare) and it's not going to harm anyone
>>69674530
since when are artists not allowed to take artistic liberties? only when black people are involved?
you're probably less interested in historical accuracy than you think. you only want a show that plays to what you know and expect
>>69674649
>you're probably less interested in historical accuracy
Not him, but my BA is in History, it's incredibly annoying because it gives the general public a very inaccurate view of history, you'd be surprised how many people will believe that there were tons of medieval POCs now after seeing a show like this.
>>69674711
if historical inaccuracy is an annoyance then perhaps film and tv aren't the media for you, since they're rife with it. in any case i don't think arguing about historical inaccuracy in a thread about black people is the best way of going about it since in doing so you reveal something else about yourself
> it gives the general public a very inaccurate view of history
i don't really see the problem. it's a piece of media based on a play, not a history lesson. if people are that stupid it's their problem. there's no moral obligation to teach people about history in tv shows
>>69674539
Would love to see a pic
>>69674649
It's not that they weren't allowed, in fact i don't think anyone went to jail for taking part in this series. But as any artistic product it can be really good or really bad. In this case is shit! And you cant contest that, because it's my subjective opinion on an artistic product.
>>69674994
subjective opinions need evidence and reasoning
>>69674530
There are black people in Verona, anon. They were there during the Renaissance too. Lots of mobility it the Mediterranean. It's not like it was Norway. And it was never the pure Aryan Whites-only country club you wish it was.
>>69674649
Artists can take artistic liberties, but they can also take criticism.
I'm tired of white culture being this thing that every race gets to enjoy.
I'm really sick of us giving away our culture for diversity sake.
I can't stop these actors or this director or anybody else involved in this show, but I can make it known that I'm not watching it for this specific reason.
It's my criticism.
>>69674427
If their "conviction" is deeply immoral and bigot, then one has to guess what the reason is. It's not like you can take them at their word. Personal values and beliefs? Because they're good god-fearing church going people, right? Family values? It's all a load of bullshit, and it's transparent.
Cry some more, faggot.
>>69654810
>>69674388
Nice imaginary talking points, anon. I'm sure you're considered the smartest guy at the hate rally.
>>69674890
Are you new on 4chan? Someone linked you to this thread?
Since when is this thread about black people only? It's about a british play that take place in Italy that has been remade for american television.
>if you dont agree with me you are racist!
Nice moral highground you got there.
>>69655457
but have they done one with black people
>>69675091
black people are a part of 'white' culture. they're not some isolated variable
>>69675044
Read the thread, there are plenty of them.
>>69674890
>there's no moral obligation to teach people about history in tv shows
But there is a moral obligation to shoehorn people of colour into a scene? Despite anyone with half an education knowing that it's historically inaccurate, to the point of ruining any immersion or believablility?
Nobody expects perfect historical accuracy from cheap, second-rate TV shows, but something as obviously anachronistic as that is beyond shoddy workmanship. Why not have dinosaurs, and characters with digital watches too?
>>69654810
>Modern Period
>Italy
>Black people being more than slaves
>No slaves at all
AHAHAHAH, fuck, this is actually real.
>>69674890
You are a foolish man.
>>69675091
>I'm sick of black people doing white people things
>like being in our movies and doing shakespeare stuff
>it's bad enough they're in our schools and drinking from our water fountains
But you're not racist though, right? You've got lots of black friends?
>>69675098
You just listed many of the valid reasons why someone might be anti-gay then you dismiss as if it is self evident why they are not true.
You believing their ethics are immoral or bigoted is your own issue. It doesn't make them in any way less true to their own opinions.
Get over it.
>>69675151
>It's about a british play that take place in Italy that has been remade for american television.
lol if it had white actors you wouldn't think any of this was appropriative
>Nice moral highground you got there.
i actually don't care if you're racist. i just care about consistency
>>69675053
I'm italian (like actually italian not american with italian heritage) and that's a big lie you are saying and it shows what is wrong with who is defending this series.
>>69675210
I'm very racist.
It's racist to want to preserve the culture of your people.
It's racist to be against the promotion of the mixing of your people.
I am very racist.
What's worse? Racebaiting or making a sequel to Shakespeare?
Love these /pol/ threads were you racist stormweenies get mad as fucking kek. The world is changing and aligning against storm weenies and I got front row tickets to the /pol/tears show
>>69675053
They were not black, they were from fucking Middle-East.
Are people from Middle-East same as people from deep Africa?
>>69675267
making a sequel to shakespeare. Americans always have to take a fat stinking shit on actual culture.
Roland Deschain likes this.
>>69675227
>>69675268
It's like the new Ghostbuster movie, if you don't like it you must be against feminism.
>>69675178
i'm saying that it can be contested
>>69675185
like i said earlier, there's nothing that really suggests black people are in this production out of moral obligation.
>to the point of ruining any immersion or believablility
yeah like i said, 'playing to what you know'. this isn't an argument about historical inaccuracy and everyone here knows it but they're hiding it behind rhetoric. this production is a 'what if', not a history lesson.
> Why not
does not answer 'why'
>>69675268
I hope you're not white.
If you're not white, fine. I expect you to cheer when seeing the slow grinding away of white culture and giving the shavings to other races.
If you're white, I'm very sorry that you are such a race traitor.
>>69675202
because i'm not buying in to ideological warfare? then yes i am foolish
>>69675368
This production being a 'what if' rather than a history lesson doesn't matter.
Casting whites as samurai in a 'what if' situation also suggests that the Japanese culture should not be reserved for the Japanese.
>>69675344
well are you against race-mixing?
>>69675139
Is it racist to expect an equal standard of behaviour from black people and women?
Because people who object to Affirmative-Action are labeled racist, by people who logically must believe that black people are mentally inferior and need white people's charity to survive.
>>69675396
People like you are the reason history becomes eroded, the only way you can be comfortable with the present is presenting the history up until this point as something equally as comfortable. It's sad, sad and foolish.
>>69675457
No i'm not against it and you are proving my point.
Good job retard!
>>69654810
Can someone tell me what the point of having bm/wf relationships on film is if they don't show full penetration?
>>69675452
it does when literally the show is about forbidden love. having an interracial relationship is more relevant than dinosaurs and digital watches. besides, this show was created by a white woman who adapted it from a book by another white woman. this isn't the same as a white director putting white people in samurai armour and getting them to pretend to be japanese. if however a japanese director got white people to play samurai that would be interesting and a more accurate comparison.
>>69675520
are you against the erosion of 'white culture'?
>>69675497
no, people who believe the show is meant to be historically accurate are eroding history. i take it for what it is -- a cultural product relevant to its time and place, not a chapter in some narrative about goodies vs baddies. that is ideology, which is about re-writing history.
>>69675580
The story of romeo and juliet is also about senseless hatred. There is no reason for wich the Montecchi hate the Capuleti. With an interracial relationship you rewrite the story as a racial conflit when there is no need to be.
>>69675609
No im not.
Aren't you tired of being proved wrong and showing everyone you are the one with bias to begin with?
>>69675580
In the original work it's a forbidden love we can all get behind because the feud between their families is so old that they've forgotten the original reason.
Now you're going to have a feud that includes racism which is a pretty damn good reason for a feud.
I'm not going to be rooting for this forbidden love because I'd be one of the people forbidding it.
>>69675457
>>69675609
I am. I am completely against race mixing and the erosion of white culture. What do you want?
>>69675368
>this production is a 'what if', not a history lesson.
Oh sorry, I didn't realise this production was actually about a parallel universe where black people have integrated into white European society by the 16th century. I wonder what other differences we'll see between this fictional multicultural 16th century and our own historical 16th century. Maybe Native Americans will have discovered Europe first? Or Jesus will have been a woman?
It's an interesting premise but maybe they should've written an original story for this new fictional world instead of setting a Shakespeare play in it. I feel like they're trying to do too much and the classic, established story will overshadow the science fiction elements of the show.
>>69675740
>With an interracial relationship you rewrite the story as a racial conflit when there is no need to be.
i'm not sure of what the point is here
>>69675770
i'm not being proved wrong by one person answering two questions
see
>>69675788
>>69675821
>>69675788
>juliet's father did nothing wrong
>>69675944
I was the person you asked those questions, different people dont like this series for different reasons. Not everyone who disagree with you is a racist.
>>69675912
>Oh sorry, I didn't realise this production was actually about a parallel universe where black people have integrated into white European society by the 16th century.
since it's not historically accurate obviously it is, which is something a lot of tv shows do.
>It's an interesting premise
this is what my point is. i don't support or resent the race aspect of it. it's just a tv show
> they should've written an original story for this new fictional world
it is based on a novel rather than the play itself
>>69676017
>Not everyone who disagree with you is a racist.
i wouldn't assume they were
>>69675944
My point is trying to prove that this series shouldn't have been as a sequel to Shakespeare work because it twist the intended message.
But it looks like the only point you are capable to understand is that who disagree with you must be racist.
>>69676115
>who disagree with you must be racist.
i don't know why you keep saying this. it's worse than if i actually did assume the people who disagreed with me were racist. like i said, i don't care if you're racist or not
>because it twist the intended message.
i don't see how this is a problem. fanfiction doesn't rupture space-time or alter the original work itself
>>69676264
>like i said, i don't care if you're racist or not
There you did it again! You are implying that i could be racist! You just did it!
It becomes a problem when fanfiction masturbation becomes a produced series with a financial interest.
>>69654810
>mfw white boi thinks he can satisfy a nubian goddess
Hot dog in the hallway
#endracism #noh8
>>69676385
i was careful to include 'or not' so you wouldn't think i was implying that. it was a better sentence than 'i don't care if you're not racist or if you are'
>It becomes a problem when fanfiction masturbation becomes a produced series with a financial interest.
why? all conclusion no argumentracist
Make Othello white and blacks will lose their shit
>>69676449
Because you are exptecting to bank some monies attaching the name of a dead man on your mediocre story. That is problematic for me.
>>69676562
how do you know the story is mediocre? because it's about black people, you disgusting racist?
>>69676694
If it isn't mediocre why can't it stand on is own legs? Why does it need to steal characters from shakespeare to try create some interest?
>>69676755
because mediocrity has nothing to do with the autonomy of art works. the great works of traditional art from the renaissance onwards relied on greco-roman and biblical literature but they were still great in their own right
>>69676401
>muh dick
How does it feel to be a stereotype?
>>69666628
The Hollow Crown adaptations were mostly good, better than Macbeth even, which has a very weird emphasis, beautiful as it is.
>>69676819
Because art in renaissence was commisioned by the customer. It was the buyer who asked to paint a greek god or a saint.
In fanfiction is the opposite, its the maker who picks already existing elements for his own enjoyment. Nobody wanted this but the people who worked on it!
What does it say that when I first heard about this I knew Romeo would be black? Do I spend to much time on /tv/ and /pol/?
>>69677085
/pol/ is always right
STOP IT
FUCKING STOP IT
STOP INCLUDING BLACK PEOPLE IN EVENTS THAT MAKE IT HISTORICALLY INACCURATE
AND STOP MAKING EXTENDED FUCKING UNIVERSES OF STORIES THAT HAVE BEEN FUCKING RETOLD A HUNDRED TIMES
FUCK YOU JUST FUCKING STOP
>>69655213
You are fucking retarded, that is a bonefied nigger
>>69654810
MWAAAAHAAA, the Americans!
>>69654810
you cant make this shit up
