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how do you feel about The Gunslinger being african american
>>69629719
I don't, I never read the books, so fuck whatever shitpost storm this was intended to be
Guys should I read the books?
I find it agitating that they do it to meet a quota, but it's not going to take me out of enjoying the movie.
I really don't care. It's gonna be a shitty movie based off a shitty book. We should be so lucky that there isn't enough demand for a sequel. Honestly, Elba's acting may be the soul redeeming quality, but don't quote me on that.
Also, he's a brit you stupid fuck.
>>69629719
It's not that he's black.
It's that he can't be white.
Idris Elba is a good actor
>>69629719
Doesn't even matter. The Gunslinger is autistic.
>>69629719
i like stringer bell
>>69629719
>Idris Elba
>African American
>>69629719
>dark tower
>black guy
too funny
>>69629719
It makes me wonder how this is going to effect the Odetta/Detta character. Is she just going to project all her racial hostility on Eddie?
>>69629792
What do they call black people in Europe? Are they just Europeans as well or do they get called African Europeans?
T. Burger
>>69629891
They're black.
>>69629891
>What do they call black people in Europe?
black people.
>>69629861
She's gonna be white and racist against blacks.
>>69629719
I feel really, really upset about it
Roland is specifically white, hes suppose to look like clint eastwood/viggo morginstien
The books are fun and trippy even if they are schlock
I was actually just about to make a thread of this.
It really bothers me, mostly because King literally based Roland on The Man With No Name, and for them to just turn around and cast a black actoreven if he's good, tbqh i dont think I've ever seen a film he's in, all for the sake of casting a black actor, is a little insulting to the longtime fans like myself. And when you have to rework or even throw away an entire subplot of the story regarding Detta's conflict over being dragged along by two white dudes, it just seems ridiculous to have to disregard a plotline spread across the first 4 or 5 goddamn books in order to fulfill an agenda.
But anyway, I always believed that the movie would fail regardless of casting, so I don't know why the fuck I even bother being assblasted about it. King's works are better unadapted. The only exceptions are The Mist and Shawshank. The Shining was good in its own way because of Kubrick's vision and Nicholson's performance, but as far as an adaptation it left a lot to be desired, partly due to the technological limitations of the time.The scene where Jack smashed his face repeatedly with a sledgehammer is fucking brutal and I wish I could see that on the big screen.
should be european-american.
>>69629993
>turn the white character black
>turn the black character white
Okay.
>>69630055
I forgot about the mist. That was one of those films that was good enough to be watchable but not great enough to be memorable at all. I only ever recall liking it when someone else mentions it.
>>69630055
>>69630112
the mist is mostly remembered for the GOAT ending that made normies cry
plus pic related
>>69630184
>he's white
>>69630055
>>69630081
>should be european-american
>is a little insulting to the longtime fans like myself
Why do you feel entitled to a faithful adaption? Have you considered that perhaps Arcel has his own artistic vision for this movie, one that he is fully entitled to seeing as he is directing the fucking movie.
We've seen time and again that a competent director can make something good out of Stephen's work. Kubrick, Darabont, Reiner; A director that can focus his jumbled thoughts into something cohesive is far more important than some shitty halfbaked racial subplot that King threw in.
>>69629719
I want him to hold me at gunpoint while he fucks my wife with his BBC tbhfambruhs
>>69630339
>his own artistic vision
>>69630339
I can't tell if this is trolling or an actual argument, it just hits that fine line of plausibility where it's hard to discern.
That being said if you are trolling I think it's an interesting point anyway.
The movie COULD work; for all any of us know it could be the best film ever made. The thing is that it simply seems improbable and the feeling that they've miscast someone so badly only makes it less auspicious.
>>69630443
to be fair, perfect casting was clint eastwood ten years ago. Since they can't have that, might as well just cast whomever.
>>69629719
Literally the dumbest shit I've ever seen.
>>69630546
They could've probably gotten away with Scott Eastwood if they greyed him up a tiny bit.
Honestly, every casting choice they've had for the film since it was first being talked about has been shit. Javier Bardem was almost as bad of a choice as Elba.
WE WUZ GUNSLINGERS N SHIET SAI
>>69630627
and now you're saying they should've cast someone who looks the part, but can't act.
>>69629751
The first four books are great, but it takes a massive nosedive after that, and it has one of the worst anticlimactic endings I've ever seen, even by King standards.
A friend of mine once joked that you can tell the exact point where King stopped drinking.
>>69630735
Roland doesn't really require a lot of range.
Think of Clint in TMWNN. He just needs to look tough and act like a badass.
>>69630627
I like Javier Birdman. Why does he seem bad to you?
>>69630769
Wasn't he doing more than just drinking while writing the first few books though?
>>69629719
>my face when roland descended by time traveling negro king Arthur scene
>>69630811
Didn't King drop a ton of acid when he was writing IT?
I'm not sure where I heard that but I heard it.
>>69630735
He can't? I'm speaking primarily about looks. I've never seen a film he's been in.
>>69630781
I dunno, he just doesn't have the vibe. He's great though. NCFOM is one of my favorite films.
>>69629993
>Raceswap everyone, so Roland and Eddie are Black, and Susannah/Odetta/Detta is white
>She's a mean racist girl from the South who fucking hates blacks
>She is cured of her racism with the power of black dick
You just fucking know that's what they're going to do.
>>69630811
>>69630824
He had a huge coke problem. I think the acid bit is true too, I think I've read that before as well.
>>69630404
Yeah. Arcel has shown talent as a screen writer and as a director. There's no reason to believe that he is incapable of adapting something like Dark Tower to his own vision.
>>69630443
You feel as if the've miscast him because you're clinging to the hope that he'll be simply porting the book to the screen.
>>69630811
I'm sure I remember him talking about taking drugs heavily around that time too, but I can't specifically remember what. He said that he was so perpetually fucked up way back when, that he doesn't even remember writing Cujo.
>>69629719
I don't care. Idris Elba is awesome and Eastwood's sons are bad actors.
>>69630833
I almost want this to happen just so I can see /tv/ shitpost about it for a year
>tfw don't even look forward to movies I just like seeing how other people respond to them.
>>69629719
>>69630894
>So fucked up he doesn't even remember writing Cujo
Fucking kek that's hardcore
YO STRING WHERE WALLACE AT?
>>69630926
It fucking hurts to live.
I like some of King's stuff, but fuck him for jumping on the SJW bandwagon with this film.
>>69630926
Why fuck is Frodo a cowboy??????
>>69629891
Black or African. They're a step up from African-Americans because African-Americans are all fucking retarded and niggers. Can't completely blame them though, they got it from their masters.
>>69629719
It's very hard to dislike Elba because hes cool and he looks cool in the get up. But I can't help think he is being used to piss off fans. The Gunslinger should have been white the same as Odetta should have been black and Eddie and Jake are white. Fully expect all that to be turned on its head
Not going to watch it. I think it will flop and they'll have to remake it a few years down the line.
Dad-a-chum?
>>69631165
Oi, that's me fooking finga, mate.
>>69631165
I can't wait to see idris being attacked by fucking lobsters in the cinema, it's gonna look so stupid.
>>69631207
From what I hear, they aren't even starting from the beginning. They are starting from the middle, with the Ka-tet already formed.
I would rather they picked Slim Charles or Proposition Joe
>>69631265
>Skipping the best parts of the story
I don't think I could hate this adaptation more if I tried.
>>69631265
But why?
>>69631265
That's lame. I think I'm giving up on this movie if that's true.
>>69631299
>>69631302
>>69631354
They hate all things that are nice.
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/29/dark-tower-rises-stephen-king-idris-elba-and-matthew-mcconaughey
>“[The movie] starts in media res, in the middle of the story instead of at the beginning, which may upset some of the fans a little bit, but they’ll get behind it, because it is the story,” King says.
>>69631387
Fucking dropped
>>69631387
Translation: "The fans will eagerly slurp down whatever I shit down their throat."
Fuck King, I'm done.
>>69631165
Dod-a-chook?
>>69631387
>>69629719
>African American
>Idris Ebla
>>69631437
King hates the Shawshank Redemption. If you didn't hate him for that you're just as big a dumb-ass as he claims you are.
>>69631265
It's already tumbling down.
>>69631602
I wasn't aware of that.
>>69631387
Well there goes my hopes of this being good. So by the sound of it they'll start with the doors on the beach and probably skip the whole jake dying and going a bit nuts because of it
>>69630926
Don't fucking remind me.
>>69630981
He hasn't given a shit about adaptations since The Shining. As I see it, King doesn't want Dark Tower to get an adaptation, and is casually okaying every awful idea they have to prevent future producers from even attempting to remake it.
>>69629719
>Idris Elba
>American
Shut the fuck up.
>>69629891
They are Europeans with roots all over the world
>>69629719
>Roland, former heir to the throne of Gilead, now destroyed by Walter O'Dimm
This is now WE WUZ KINGS AND SHIT: The Movie.
>>69629719
Idris Elba is a literal memelord
He sucks
He got the role as a diversity hire
Its bullshit
>>69631620
Nope.
They're starting in fucking Lud.
The only consolation I can glean from this fucking shit is that it's getting a January release. The producers are preemptively sending it off to die.
>>69630106
It has to be BM/WF or else its racist
Got bored by the second book so I doubt I'm going to give a shit about another book to movie interpretation that always makes them worse.
>>69630339
Why would you feel entitled to a faithful adaptation? Did you actually just say that?
Um because that's that the original story is. "His own artistic vision" of somebody else's work isn't "his own artistic vision," that's called fucking FAN FICTION.
Making you a director doesn't entitle you to take other people's work and do whatever you want with it. Adapting a beloved, best-selling novel from a legendary writer actually ENTITLES you to fucking work your hardest to make the most faithful version of that story in the medium you're working in.
Plus, the agenda-pushing race change is disrespectful to King as a writer, as he commonly uses elements like racism, sexism, and religious dogmatism to really enrich drama and characters, so Roland being black would've been played on in many ways in the story of the Dark Tower.
God your post was the most faggot thing I've read in about 38 minutes. Your Reddit-tier SJW defensive maneuvers need a lot of work. High five, bitch.
>>69631620
Crushes all possibility of the story continuing where 7 left off, too. Considering he picked up the horn that time around could've opened up a shitload of possibilities, saving Jake from the mineshaft probably being the most consequential.
>>69631354
> not giving up when they ruined the main guy
Blaine?
>>69631865
Blaine will now be a terminator-style robot voiced by Kevin Hart.
>>69630926
>implying this guy isn't terrible
Have you even read the books, nigger? The guy in the picture looks like a cute teenager. Roland is supposed to old and ugly, like a human version of an ent.
The problem with Elba isn't that he's black, he just looks too normal.
>Screenplay by Andres Tomas Jansen
>The dannish guy who did Adam's Apples and Green Butchers
And we still don't get Mads as Roland? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>69631932
He was a bit younger in Hidalgo. He's fucking prime for it now.
>>69631299
Is that a bare?
>>69631932
I have. He looks almost, but not quite, like Clint Eastwood according to Eddie, who only ever jokingly considered him Long, Tall, and Ugly.
He got pussy wherever there was a somewhat fresh woman. I wouldn't call that ugly. He had a certain ruggedness about him.
Also Roland didn't get old until after he spoke with the man in black in the Tarot session. He was maybe in his mid 30s till then.
>>69631964
Fuck hes perfect
Fuck this movie
Never even finished the book and I don't even want to now
>>69629774
what fucking quota?
>>69631039
/shitpost
>>69632107
you know the quota that we can safely assume exists for no other reason than that it backs our invented narratives
Catch up son
I'm not going to see it because of that, so indifferent.
>>69631769
Are you stupid?
As the director of the film Arcel has the artistic license to alter the source material as he sees fit. Artistic License is a widely accepted convention and necessary in many cases.
In general, King is a shit author. He is unfocused, his characters are bland at best, at there worst they are set pieces. His prose is dull for the most part, the reader is treated to hours of kings vague imagery peppered with occasional awful cliche. His pacing is awful and the reader jumps between manufactured "horror" and more bland exposition and shitty scenery in an instant. There is no tension, no buildup. And to top this all of he can't write a goddamn ending to save his life.
All this being said, at the core of his work there is occasionally an original or creative glimmer that is obfuscated by the piles of shit on top of it. A good director is capable of turning kings shitty books into something redeemable (the mist) or even great (the shining, misery). One thing you'll notice, especially in regards to the shining, the directors have stripped away a great deal of the novel. Of course we are left with the basic premise but the rest is built from the ground up. This isn't even exclusive to adaptions of shitty books. There is always artistic liberties taken by the director, as there should be. Coppola did not recreate the godfather word for word, and thank god he didn't. Kubrick's lolita is arguably a vastly different piece of work.
Directors have no obligation to stricly follow the source material, and rightfully so. For fucks sake they're entirely different mediums.
As for your claims of an agenda being pushed, I see little evidence of that.
>he commonly uses elements like racism, sexism, and religious dogmatism to really enrich drama and characters,
lol if you want to call king's trite manufactured dramas enriching more power to you.
Youre a fucking idiot and you are killing film. But go ahead just ignore this or call me an sjw or a cuck.
>>69632107
The bm/wf quota
>>69632569
>As for your claims of an agenda being pushed, I see little evidence of that.
Wish you said that shit at the start so I could stop reading there. Race/gender swaps in movies are very big right now, and you bet your ass this casting decision is an attempt to cash in on that.
>>69629719
Dark Tower went full retard after Wizard and Glass.
The fact a multiverse hopping cowboy doomed to loop for eternity is black is a non issue.
>>69632742
Do you have any evidence to support this, or are you just pulling it out of your ass? Have you considered the fact that Elba is a charismatic lead with acting chops? Perhaps Arcel simply wanted to cast him.
>>69632761
>>>/b/
You'll fit in there nicely.
>>69632742
>Movies want to cash in.
Shock. Horror.
>>69632823
>Elba is a charismatic lead with acting chops
>>69632851
>Facts in green aren't true.
>>69632832
It's bad when a trend isn't profitable. This flick is already scheduled for the January woodchipper.
This might as well be the last thread dedicated to it.
>>69629719
At least it isn't Jamie Foxx
>>69632823
Name one film in which he played a charismatic lead.
>>69632876
>Trend isn't profitable
So now it's NOT a cash in?
>>69632901
>Deliberately ignores series
Oh you.
>>69629891
England - Nignogs
France - La Niggehs
Germany - Le Niggernashens
Spain - Brothers
>>69632823
>Do you have any evidence to support this
Django Unchained and Ghostbusters immediately come to mind.
In fact Django could be an inspiration to consider a black Roland. After all, Franco Nero could, himself, pass for roland.
>>69629861
She's gonna be calling Roland an uncle tom now and questioning the authenticity of his blackness.
>>69632902
Exactly. The problem being that studios think it is. That's bad.
>>69632945
>GET THE HELL OFF ME YOU UNCLE TOM COCKSUCKERS
The memes alone.
>>69632925
>German
>Not Die Schwartzeniggers
>>69632569
Stopped reading at "Are." Shorten your fucking posts you self-important shitheel.
>>69632929
>Django Unchained is proof of race swaps
You high?
>>69632950
It always amazes me how neets know business so well.
Here's a crazy idea, he's a big name who will sell.
>>69632990
>My Attention Span
>My Wilful Ignorance
>>69632994
>he's a big name who will sell
>>69632994
You do know this is releasing in January, right? Say whatever you want, but this won't sell. Doesn't matter who's starring in it.
>>69632994
>he's a big name who will sell.
>>69633065
Again, NEET ceos to the rescue.
>>69633034
>>69633090
>A fact in green is no longer a fact.
>>69631039
>African-Americans are all fucking retarded and niggers
Our blacks are just as bad, except they get free healthcare, so they live longer.
>>69632851
Ok bud. You may personally not be a fan, but he's well recieved and he demonstrated that he can act, watch beasts of no nation.
>>69632901
I'm more speaking about his personality in general, he is a charismatic man. On screen it is harder, the closest he comes is maybe Luther.
>>69632929
>Django Unchained
This is a terrible example of what you are claiming. It is a tribute to the original, nothing more. Django Unchained would not be the same movie if the actor was white. It is a continuation of Tarentino's themes of role reversal and revenge. It would be idiotic for Django to be cast as a white man and completely undermine the purpose of the movie.
>Ghostbusters
Wow a shitty cash grab that has already bombed. This is a real epidemic
>>69632990
It's roughly three medium sized paragraphs, you fucking neanderthal.
>>69629891
Niggers
>>69633020
If you can't explain something with brevity then you aren't worth reading. Purple prose may be all the rage on /lit/ but elsewhere people want to get to the point.
You could easily have said "Stephen King's a fucking awful writer, but he does have good ideas that directors can and have used to salvage those stories," and saved quite a few words.
>>69629719
I haven't read the book. Does he give a qt white girl his dark tower?
>>69633145
>My Attention Span 2
>The Cuckening
TLDR
U SUK
>>69633107
Are you seriously saying that January isn't the "fuck it" month? Because it famously is.
>>69629719
I'm not a fan of the casting, but that's the least of this movies problems.
The fact that they seem to be starting in the middle of the story and skipping a load of stuff is the biggest problem for me.
>>69633107
Name one Elba driven motion picture that sold. Just one.
>>69633145
So, you did read it? But decided to attack post length, not the argument? All that did was make yuou look retarded.
>>69629719
> Thinking based Idris Elba is African American
I'm 100% fine he's black of that's what you mean
>>69633167
Wordiness is amateurish and self-important. If you can make a point in fewer words, then do so. Nobody is impressed by your winded descriptions but you. Also, nice insult recycling. Very nice.
>>69633194
See >>69633125
>>69633172
And yet movies are released then.
Obviously they all bomb, yet studios still do it.
Thank god for the armchair ceos to enlighten them.
>>69629891
Sub-Saharan tree dwelling creatures i believe.
>>69633212
Why would I attack an argument I agree with? Why would you assume I disagreed?
>>69633245
>My Attention Span 3
>Now It's Personal
U DUM
>>69633258
>Thank god for the armchair ceos to enlighten them.
This insult didn't work the first three times, and it's not working now. Stop with this shit.
>>69633275
>I just want to argue about nothing
U DUM
>>69633145
First of all, you don't know what purple prose is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_prose
Here's a wikipedia article. Hopefully it's not too long for you, dipshit.
If you'd read what I wrote you'd have seen that a great deal of it was expanding on my claims. Would you like me to make things simpler for you? We can only use two syllable words, five to a sentence, 15 to a post. That way we will be nice and concise :^)
If you were able to read my post and discern my intended message where does the problem lie?
Here's a wikipedia article. Hopefully it's not too long for you, dipshit.
>>69633220
It is funny though because most black Americans who call themselves African American have barely any ties to Africa, nor do they have citizenship for an African country or ever actually visit Africa.
>>69633285
Keep going. You'll beat me in no time.
>>69629719
Hey, it worked in Blazing Saddles.
>>69633298
>insult
It's a statement of fact.
Your insight and clarity guides the poor lost souls who are clueless without you. Your impact on the world will outshine all others. Thank you messiah.
>>69633328
U Dum, u mad, is too long fag?
>>69633320
>If you were able to read my post and discern my intended message where does the problem lie?
Because the example I posted got the same point across, at a fraction of the time spent writing and reading it. Why would you willingly waste time?
>>69633399
>Wasting time.
Look where you are dipshit.
I wonder if Elba is aware that he's basically a racebending-typecast at this point? Supposedly he was a chav before he started acting, so I figure his IQ is quite low.
That Heimdall thing, the fake marketer buzz about James Bond, and now this. His career is basically over as far as legitimate acting is concerned, which is sad since I liked him in Luther and The Wire.
>>69633358
>It's a statement of fact.
You have no evidence that anyone in this board is a NEET. As you're accusing the people you're replying to, that burden of proof is on you.
>>69633399
You're example omitted things that I wanted to include and that I believe are crucial to my argument.
also
>willingly waste time
jeez oh man
>>69633427
His career barely existed at all. >>69633090 is his latest starring role. Right next to that red haired kid who got killed off in Game of Thrones.
>>69633437
You're on 4chan. Nobody's gonna say King isn't shit. Why bother explaining?
>>69633437
desu you weren't gonna run into much opposition saying Stephen King is a bad writer.
>>69633431
I have no evkdence they aren't, and their anonymity prevents me from gathering info on then.
If they hate being called a NEET, they can disprove it. Only they can.
Besides, the fact I was stating is that all these folks on 4chan clearly know how to run multi million dollar media empires better than anyone.
>>69633551
That isn't how burden of proof works, anon. You asserted that people were NEETs. Now you have to back it up.
>>69633551
Considering BvS's disappointing returns, I can safely say that /tv/ would probably do a better job than WB.
>>69633460
I'm not saying he doesn't have a shitty agent.
But oh my fuck, the man has to be retarded for letting this happen to his career.
>>69633194
Beasts of Nation was distributed on Netflix. 10 days after it's release, it had been viewed 3 million times in North America. Not incredible, but certainly not bad.
Pacific Rim was a commercial success.
Recently, The Jungle Book has been a massive success.
>>69633481
>>69633541
I see it all the time.
My post critiquing was in response to this post.
>>69631769
>Making you a director doesn't entitle you to take other people's work and do whatever you want with it. Adapting a beloved, best-selling novel from a legendary writer actually ENTITLES you to fucking work your hardest to make the most faithful version of that story in the medium you're working in.
It ultimately was not about Stephen King being a bad writer, it was more about why directors can and should take creative liberties.
>>69633646
>It ultimately was not about Stephen King being a bad writer, it was more about why directors can and should take creative liberties.
So Stephen King being a bad writer really had nothing to do with your point at the end of the day.
>>69633584
Are you retarded? I can't prove it.
I'm not trying to prove it.
It's an insult, you fuckwit.
If I call you a dumb motherfucker, I don't need photographs of you pounding her ass.
>>69633607
I think at this point, monkeys flinging shit at a piece of paper would do better than Snyder. WB have at least put affleck "in charge".
>>69633646
>Beasts of Nation was distributed on Netflix. 10 days after it's release, it had been viewed 3 million times in North America. Not incredible, but certainly not bad.
Certainly not good either.
>Pacific Rim was a commercial success.
Not Elba driven.
>Recently, The Jungle Book has been a massive success
A voice acting role that also wasn't Elba driven.
>>69633689
>It's an insult, you fuckwit.
So we're in agreement, then.
>Put your big black dark tower inside of me Roland and ride me hard cowboy
What did she mean by THIS?
>>69630981
King doesn't cast or direct the movie adaptions of his books
>>69633715
>Elba wasn't the only "literally who?" in PRim except Perlman
Really?
>>69633689
>WB have at least put affleck "in charge".
I'm sure they'll listen to this advice considering it came from an anonymous 4chan poster.
>>69633765
Yes, really. It was a Charlie Hunnam vehicle. Note that Hunnam also enjoyed television success before taking this role.
If it wasn't for the Detta/Odetta thing, I would be fine with it. Alternate post-apo future magic science-fiction cowboys don't have to be white.
>>69633427
>>69633460
What are you on about?
He's recently starred in a critically acclaimed film (beasts of no nation) He was in two commercial success (zootopia and the jungle book) and he's set to be in the new Star Trek movie as well as finding dory.
He's not doing so bad.
>>69633715
>Certainly not good either
By all accounts it is at least "good". It was financially successful, critically acclaimed, and Elba received a great deal of attention for it due to muh oscars and tons of netflix streaming
>Not Elba Driven
Fair enough, but he was a critical character.
>wasn't Elba driven
He voice Sher Khan u dummy. It was absolutely Elba driven.
>>69633768
>Advice
NEET Retard, it already happened.
Affleck has a degree of creative control over DCU, google it you cunt.
>>69633740
You what?
You tell me I need to "prove my insults" and I explain you're retarded. "We agree" is your autismal mental gymnastics to feel right.
>>69633862
They do if he's canonically a direct descendant of King Arthur. Even his guns were melted down from Excalibur.
>>69633808
Literally Who?
>>69630026
No. The books (2nd one) specifically says he DOESN'T look like Clint at all, except for the eyes.
>>69633889
>He voice Sher Khan u dummy. It was absolutely Elba driven.
It was an ensemble adaptation driven by no one in particular. It was driven by Elba as much as it was driven by Bill Murray, Ben Kingsley, and even Scarjo.
>>69633904
>King Arthur's family in hundreds of years could never get Blacked
Herp
>>69633917
So, he basically looks like Franco Nero.
Every role Elba does for the rest of his life, I'm going to have to question whether the role was written for a white actor and was awarded to him because he's the racebending sambo of choice.
This is like an actress who does too many nude scenes and gets stigmatized for it, but worse.
>>69633889
>It was financially successful
It made 90 thousand dollars in the box office against 7 mil. That's not successful.
>>69633974
He is the Eva Green of blackwashing.
>>69633904
Alternate reality Arthur could have been black, idk. Arthur is just a myth/books anyway, it's not like there was a real historical Arthur. Although he might have been inspired by a few real life people, he wasn't "real". Like Dracula.
>>69629719
>african american
that term makes no sense.
he's british and black.
african american would be a zambo.
fucking queers these days ain't into racial 101
>>69633908
The guy from the wildly popular TV Series Assassin's Creed Motorcycle Club.
>>69633938
Netflix bought distribution right for 12 million. Budget was 6 million.
>>69629837
He can't do American tho.
>>69633938
Shere Kahn serves the role of the primary antagonist of the movie. Considering the fact that the kid was a no name actor, Elba drove this
>>69634137
>American
Gilead is America?
>>69634105
Well, whatever works I suppose.
Not sure how Netflix'll get that back. Does it get revenue in views or just through subscriptions?
This is like if someone made a fantasy movie inspired by African tribes and casting a white guy as the Shaka Zulu character
>>69634182
They're paid for every spyware they download into your computer. ;)
>>69634207
It's not at all, nice attempt at bait I guess.
>>69634150
Regardless, it will never officially be considered an Elba vehicle. His performance may have been a standout, but that doesn't change the fact that it wasn't marketed as an Elba driven film. We're talking about Elba's marketability, after all. Elba has yet to take a starring role in a successful motion picture with the exception of Beasts of No Nation, which was only a success due to a streaming service buying the rights to distribute it.
>>69634207
This. Or a movie about Egyptian gods and casting a Scot in a major role.
>>69634236
Cowboys were white. Cowboys are an icon of white culture.
>>69634253
>Hold up while I move these goalposts...
>>69629719
Stopped caring tbqh, shit's gonna bomb hard yo
>>69634207
That doesn't make any sense. You've never read The Dark Tower, have you?
>>69634162
Oh great, then we get angry cockney.
>>69634287
Roland of Gilead was a product of a multiverse.
He could be a cyber bear or an AI train.
>>69629980
Michael
>>69634287
You're retarded.
First of all, he's not a cowboy. Second of all, their was plenty of black cowboys after the Civil War, you dunce.
>>69634348
>>69634294
That's not what I'm doing at all and you know it. I never asked what supporting roles he stood out in. I specifically asked for starring roles. You gave me one that had nothing to do with box office proceeds, which, considering Dark Tower is a planned blockbuster, is a risk.
Add to that the fact that this blockbuster is being released in January, rather than the more profitable Summer or Christmas seasons.
These aren't exactly stacked in the production's favor, especially considering the inevitable controversy of this casting decision.
>>69634325
>Cockney
Throw yesself dahn the apples and pears scrote, Elba int Cockney.
>>69634378
>All adaptations must be the same
Dull.
>>69629719
>WE WUZ ARTHUR'S DESCENDANTS
>>69634383
>Controversy
You being assblasted isn't a controversy. It's probably a daily event. Most folk don't care one jot about a multiverse hopping cowboy from a shit series being black.
>>69634182
Subscriptions, to my knowledge. Netflix contracted the production of Beasts of no Nation. I assume the cost of distribution rights was much lower than for something more mainstream. Based on the amount of attention it got it was probably a nice return.
>>69634253
Now you're splitting hairs over your use of driven. Shere Kahn was featured heavily in the trailer. Shere Kahn is the primary protagonist of the film
I think it's fair to say Idris Elba is pretty involved in this movie. Did you want his face plastered on it somewhere?
>only a success....
This is not a valid reason to dismiss it's success, especially considering that streaming is becoming more and more popular.
>>69634412
But in this case the change feels forced. Idris Elba can't be the best man for the role. Idris Elba isn't good most of the time.
>>69634412
>dull
yes, I too find race to be inherently interesting
would you like to share my bull?
>>69634472
There's gonna be at least some controversy. There always is.
>>69634483
>Muh Holywood Agenda
I direct you here >>69634472
>>69634521
Why?
Even Dark Tower fans stopped caring.
Or do you think a few threads on 4chan equates to real life controversy.
>>69634517
So you're saying Roland's race is a non issue? Great.
>>69634527
My argument isn't downplaying diversity. If they cast a black guy who was a good actor I wouldn't care. I'm arguing against Idris Elba being in anything high profile. He's not good.
>>69634593
>High Profile
What makes you think this is high profile?
>He's not good.
Opinions are fun.
>>69629719
Haven't read the books so I don't really give a shit. Will probably watch the movie.
>>69634482
>Did you want his face plastered on it somewhere?
So the common viewer can recognize it elsewhere, say on the cover of a future blockbuster, it certainly wouldn't have hurt.
>This is not a valid reason to dismiss it's success
I'm not dismissing its success. I'm dismissing its validity as a sure sign of marketability, as you can hardly compare a low budget drama that wasn't even going for ticket sales to a high budget sci-fi/fantasy epic. And it's an epic that only a minority cares or even knows about to boot.
It's not looking like a very good first blockbuster to star in.
>>69634642
>First blockbuster to star in
Why are you just lying now?
>>69634593
Stephen King is inherently trash kid, do you get this upset over casting in daytime soaps too?
>>69634631
If an actor is hired for a role (like The Wire or Bastille Day) and can't do the character's accent, they've failed at their job. They acted poorly.
>>69634708
>Acting is just voices
uhuh
>>69634684
Pacific Rim was a supporting role. Jungle Book was a voice acting job.
He's never been a top-billing primary protagonist in a successful motion picture as yet. Gunslinger will be his first, IF it succeeds.
>>69634747
It's inhabiting the character of another person. He fails to fully do that.
>>69634755
>Lemme just move those goalposts some
We get it, nigger bad, bad monkey, retard no like bad monkey.
>genre fiction
>>69634792
If that were true, why is he still getting roles? I'm sorry, but there are thousands of out of work actors.
>>69629751
this. I don't think I have ever liked a stephen king adaptation
>>69634799
Again, I haven't moved a damned thing. The question is whether Elba has enough star power to stand in the forefront of a blockbuster. The only examples I've gotten that he is capable is a supporting role in a giant robot movie, a voice role in a cartoon adaptation, and a low budget drama that wasn't even going for ticket sales.
Can he put asses in seats as a lead role in a blockbuster based on those? Sure. Will he? It's not as clear. He hasn't done it before.
>>69634857
Try the original Dead Zone.
>>69634884
>Can he put asses in seats
>Sure
There's literally no issue then.
>>69634857
The Langoliers called.
>>69629719
One of the most overrated actors in the West. Has to whine to the British government for diversity quotas to be enforced in white countries. Literally racist. Piece of shit. 'Strong independent black actor,' is just a meme, in reality they scrounge for parts in white culture.
>>69632569
Horrible literary sense and taste: The post.
>>69635022
Mmmm, bait... nom nom nom
>>69631932
Roland is LITERALLY described as looking like King himself. Roland is just a self-insert gary sue. I love the series, but its plain as day.
>>69629891
Euroniggers
>>69634921
But there is. Several bad factors stand between Elba and this movie's success. A January release (box office poison), a western genre film (varying box office success that leans toward failure), an unpopular fantasy series with a famously disappointing ending (not good), some fans and newcomers inevitably disagreeing with his casting (including but not limited to his skin color), and awkward narrative decisions (also not good), the possibility of an R rating (bad), and the possibility of a PG-13 rating (narratively bad, but potentially financially good for a weekend or two). I'm betting that Elba alone isn't enough to drive this.
The real question is, will they include the cringe Stephen King self insert where it turns out he's saving all of their asses by 'writing what comes true'?
>>69635059
Betting Stephen King's insert'll be black, too.
>>69635072
So we're back around to NEETS Know Holywood better than Hollywood. Oh joy.
>>69635098
He didn't save their asses. Roland just told him to write the story when he found out that the Bear told it to him as it went. Self-Insert King never had the power to control their fates, just to chronicle them.
>>69635100
lmao, that would be great.
retcon stephen king as a person, in real life
>>69635118
So you're back to that baseless insult that has no bearing on the argument. You sure showed me.
>>69635072
>Dark Tower is a Western
You're high.
>>69635118
Weren't you saying earlier that Affleck should be in charge of the Justice League movies?
>>69635153
It is firmly in the Weird West genre and has western elements that normies will instantly recognize.
>>69635153
>Dark Tower isn't a Western
lolwut
>>69635153
You're right, it's an even more niche genre. This movie is fucked.
>>69635142
You're literally claiminbg you know better. You're making factual fucking errors.
You don't like nignog cowboys and you're anally annihilated by it.
But frankly, you're just a bore now. The movie is happening with or without your approval.
>>69635166
Google it you dumb cunt Affleck HAS BEEN GIVEN creative control. I wasn't saying he SHOULD BE, it wasn't ADVICE,
IT
HAS
HAPPENED
You god damn moron.
>>69633194
Independence day
>>69635254
>You don't like nignog cowboys and you're anally annihilated by it.
kek. You can stop now. I like the other guy better. He actually speaks logically.
>>69635254
>You're making factual fucking errors.
So how much did dark tower make, future boy?
>>69629719
niggers should be shot on sight. MAGA.
>>69635316
I wish I'd fucked off when he did, I really do.
>>69630894
God that book fucking sucks, that makes a lot of sense now.
>>69635374
No reason why you shouldn't. I've only ever been listing reasons why this production has quite a few risks. I don't know where you got this "you're assblasted because he's black" nonsense. Because I disagree with production decisions being made?
Also wondering where you get off thinking Hollywood execs are completely free of error. Damon Lindelof had a career long after he should've been booted, after all.
>>69631207
Oh god, it'll be so fucking stupid haha.
>>69629719
I love Elba, he's great.
I'm not against black main characters, I loved Black Panther in Civil War, he was awesome.
But Roldand is not black. He's a white blue-eyed male who looks like clint eastwood. This is cultural appropriation of a white role and I won't be supporting this and I will try and talk people into not going to see it either and I hope it fails.
>>69635254
>You're literally claiminbg you know better.
>I think January's a good time to release big budget movies
You're an idiot.
>>69631437
I love the dark tower series but I legitimately hate Stephen King. He's a cunt.
