Total pleb here so; can someone explain this character to me?
Almost everytime he's on screen he talks about his father, he considers himself an orphan, and he never seems consistent with his belief system.
He weeps at Zod and feels like doomsday is his child
>>69329875
father issues made him more solitary, so he doesn't like the idea (partially fabricated at least) that Supes will become a "benevolent dictator" like you see in socialist shitholes today.
Not a huge amount more to him
>>69329921
how does that explain him weeping at a dictator in Zod?
at he seems to like the idea of powerful people being corrupt
>that power can be innocent
He's the greatest Kino character ever in cinema
>>69329979
visually, I get this, he has the senator eating out of the palm of his hand and he can show whatever he wants down his throat
>>69329875
seriously, I don't get this character someone explain it
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
>>69330668
I'm not asking about his plan, I'm asking about
>why his father is so important
>how he sees power
>how he sees superman
>how he sees zod
>>69330885
Countless theories OP, that's part of what makes him interesting. Here's one.
People asking why he made Doomsday, think about the creation scenes -- how he cries when examining Zod. The Greek Icarus flew too close to the sun and fell, Zod and the other Kryptonians came across the universe simply to restore their people. Yet Superman struck them down, in Lex's eyes, to cement his status as a god. He gives the genesis chamber his own DNA and weeps viewing the lethal results of Superman's righteousness. "If God is all-good, then he cannot be all-powerful" Lex manically laments as he remembers the abuses of his father. So if the super man's intentions for humanity are so supremely pure that he would act as destroyer for his own race, then there is no way he will never live up to them. The largest departure from comic book Lex Luthor is that he is no longer antagonizing Superman out of jealousy, beneath it all is a despair that Superman cannot fulfill the promise he made to this world.
>>69331675
By his interaction with the ship and Zod, Lex is more a bridge between 2 worlds than Superman will ever be. After Zod is reborn, Lex reaches out to embrace him. Mad scientist Lex Luthor is more a spiritualist as the ghost of Krypton arises to meet him. The worlds torn asunder by Superman, rather explicitly or implicitly, are linked by a shared experience of moral objectivism. Zod's unerring beliefs could not coexist with the Superman the same as tumultuous nature of humanity cannot. "If man won't kill God, then the devil will do it", there's double meaning: first off, Batman failed to end the Superman, but more importantly, Superman refused to give up his goodness - his godliness - viewing the underbelly of mankind. Batman's character arc in this movie is remembering that moral absolutes do still exist, then Lex's arc is attempting to prove to the world that they do as well. He never thought Superman would kill Batman. A layman would view Lex's catalog of metahuman files as brought on by paranoia. "The oldest lie in America is that power can be innocent" -- think of this of the objectivist scale, not the relativist one. These extraordinary people Lex catalogued cannot simply exist and be complacent, they factually must be like Superman as either savior or destroyer. Remember that despite aiding mankind, Prometheus was no man. Yet Lex's greatest fear is not that Olympus will succeed in stopping Prometheus - Superman has already brought down Olympus -, it's that humanity will. That necessitates the creation of Doomsday, the devil, a being rising against its destroyer. If Superman exists and is godly, then the devil must exist. If life is given to mankind by Prometheus, then anti-life must be given as well.
This, of course, perfectly ties together with the coming of Darkseid. In that deleted scene, he prays before Darkseid's church. Zack Snyder's Lex Luthor does not hate Superman. His villainy comes from believing in him the most out of anyone on the planet.
>>69329979
That also counts as a "redpill" in Lex's eyes.
One thing that has been in my mind lately is how much emphasis Lex puts on his father. Out of the three main characters, it's noteworthy that Lex's mother is never mentioned.
I can only help but wonder if what he meant with "my father's fist and abominations" had more to do with how Lex Sr. treated Lex Jr.'s mother and the impotence he felt with not being able to protect her.
Just an interesting theory, of course.
>Every boy's special lady is his mother.
>>69331675
that does actually answer a lot of my questions, I still don't understand his complete relationship with his father and how he views him, but I do find him extremely compelling.
I already ordered the dc, just because MoS had a commentary type track that featured snyder and the writer talking about the story, if terrio talks about what luthor is and the neurosis behind him, it'll pay for itself.
thanks for the description
>>69331755
Lex's relationship with his father could also be analyzed as classic Oedipean conflict. There are many elements from Classic Greek tragedies on all the characters.
Maybe these discussions might shed more light for you.
>>68992181
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>>69331835
Woops, first one is already archived.
Here's the link.
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/68992181/
>>69329875
he wants power for selfish reasons
everything, including people, is a means to an end for him
>>69331755
take the three characters of bruce lex and clark and compare and contrast their backgrounds, the way they all act in is accordance to where they come from
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>>69331835
Lex still doesn't make as much sense as I want him to, but I think I'm starting to get a clearer picture
>>69331927
read that as bruce lee and clark
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>>69331994
The world only makes sense if you force it to.
