>I BELIEVE THIS IS YOURS CAPTAIN AMERICA.
He was so stoked to say that.
Wat
>>69321255
So proud to have fetched that frisbee. Great moment.
Literally laughed out loud
>>69321255
>whole premise is that he can shrink while still having the same weight and strength
>can pick up a huge truck because it's been shrunk
>can break off and pick up an airplane wing when he's supersized
can anyone explain this? paul rudd was still the mostfunpart of that movie
I wouldve liked him more if he was on the good guys side
Why is this post not about BLACK Panther? Are you mad that BLACK men are being empowered?
Do you think he wears the suit when he has sex to he can make himself bigger in the dick
>>69321464
>>69321464
Two types of Pym particles: one that shrinks something and makes it light, and one that shrinks and keeps density. There's also the particle that enlarges. I'm pulling this out of my ass.
>>69321514
Literally the most boring t b h
could he have beaten either of the super soldiers?
>>69321464
Ant-Man shenanigans simply do not obey physics. They're an extreme case of "turn off your brain bro", but there's just no way to logically explain it that even makes sense in-universe.
>shrink the distance between molecules, but maintain total number of them to preserve strength/weight
>but can go "subatomic" and be smaller than your own molecules
>increase distance between molecules
>somehow also gain strength
I guess just "Pym Particles do crazy things" is the explanation. It'd honestly be the biggest game changer ever if that was possible, but Hank won't share or sell the tech.
>>69321464
JUST TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF BRO
>>69321626
Not BLACK Panther. He is a strong BLACK male who can't be defeated by a puny WHITE guy
>>69321464
he doesn't keep his weight when he shrinks. I don't think the ants would enjoy him riding them very much if he did.
>>69321712
How does BLACK cock taste?
>>69321771
Very tasty and Juicy. So much better than puny WHITE cock
>>69321855
Oh ok, so why don't you fuck off then and go suck on some?
For a dollar would you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XP5zczzJwY
>>69321712
>>69321771
>>69321855
>>69321907
Race war soon, brothers, weak and inferior black race won't survive in this world much longer
>>69321255
ANTS stole this movie for me. They did his character so perfect.
>Can you move your seat?
>.....no.
>I retire for 5 minutes and it all goes to shit.
>Dat creepy Vision
>Dat HE KILLED MY MOM
>Dat based Crossbones
>Dat cute Wanda
>Based Zemo helping Bucky escape
>Based Clint/Wanda fucking Vision up
Fuck this was a great movie.
9/10
>>69321727
falls off edge of tub, breaks tiles
falls onto DJ record, don't even bump the needle
Why does it seem like his costume changed from the solo film?
>>69322017
>dude starts haggling for more money.
>you don't have time for that gay crap!
whole thing was hilarious
>>69322201
Because it did. The helmet at least.
>>69322169
Fuck off tripfag.
>>69322201
they changed the helmet because giant man.
>>69322201
Been almost a year since ant man so the suit got an upgrade in that time
>>69321464
>Having the same weight
Not true senpai watch Ant-kino one more time before you make a fool of yourself
>>69322134
This. Good shit and cut back on the quips
>>69322017
>Paul is a manlet
Yes! Finally some representation in the MC-
>those narrow shoulders
LMAO
M
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>>69321255
Paul Rudd is literally the perfect cast for ant man. Or he makes ant man perfect. Either way ant-man is 10/10.
>>69322360
>all the women will fuck him for a dolla
>>69321727
>>69322309
The technology works by him shrinking the distance between particles while preserving the same mass
>capeshitters in charge of understanding elementary physics
>>69322371
yeah I hate cape shit, but you just can't hate paul rudd.
>>69322582
>trying to explain comic book physics using real life physics
Please do not reproduce.
>>69322582
>implying you know fucking anything at all about physics
Mass and weight are not the same thing you blithering idiot.
>>69322582
>explaining fake physics
>>69321464
Anti Pym particles
Why don't they use Pym particles to shrink the entire solar system so that aliens can't find the human solar system?
>>69322725
no, not the same thing, but, an object's weight is directly related to its mass.
>>69323235
Not enough particles.
He's so dorky :3
He literally made the whole airport scene tolerable
>>69323294
Why don't they use the particles to embiggen other particles they have so that they are stronger and then use those particles to shrink the system?
>>69323337
Pym Particles are fundamental parts of the universe, like Photons or the Higgs Boson. You can't make them bigger, they don't work on each other.
>>69323337
Now you're just being silly
???
Ant-Man and Spiderman having fanboy moments made them much more believable to me
Even superheroes can be fans of other heroes
>>69323501
What the fuck is with /v/ children flooding this place recently? They can't go 5 minutes without injecting their stupid hobby into completely unrelated discussions or what? We're talking about bullshit physics in a movie and all these kids have to add is "that reminds me of a video game"? Kill yourself already.
>>69322855
reminder that mr fantastic understood pym particles intuitively while it took lang years of research to understand them
>>69323594
t. hothead
>these two fighting to be best caps best friend
people thought it was just jokes
>>69323662
>t.
Stop this. You have no idea what it means and you're just doing it because you saw someone else do it.
>>69323721
>>69323761
Cap 4 Starring Bucky and Falcon as dueling Captain Americans
>>69323594
you sound like an autistic child who can't deal with out of place.
Sort me back into my board autist-kohai it's okay.
>>69323492
No he's not. Embiggen is a perfectly cromulent word.
>>69323761
remember when falcon was introduced as some guy getting lapped by cap? he's just an average dude. why is he in these movies?
>>69323594
children play videogames.
capeshit is for children.
i dont understand your confusion.
>>69323746
t. butt frustrated
>>69323892
he is loyal, and did you not see him kicking ass?
>>69323892
>the only living person who know how to operate that crazy wing thing
>"""""""""""average"""""""""""
Falcon has crazy skills. Getting trained to fly those suits is probably more exclusive than being an Astronaut and on Seal Team Six combined.
>>69323974
>bird costume
>>69323892
Falcon, Black Panther, Iron Man, War Machine, Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Ant-Man are all "Average" people
>>69323852
>people discussing war on ISIS
>some kid comes in and starts talking about call of duty because it's all he knows
Same principle. You're definitely the autist here.
>>69323899
Yeah now that you mention it you really only see them in capeshit threads, which seem to be around all year nowadays.
>>69323974
I just don't get why the wing thing has any advantage over iron man or war machine. Why have both?
>>69324023
Panther has some Wakandan herb that makes he about as strong as Cap.
Otherwise you are right.
>>69323832
And Steve out there as Nomad.
>>69324108
>Panther has some Wakandan herb that makes he about as strong as Cap.
Didn't know that, neat
>>69324023
Tony's not exactly normal, what with the supergenius "build the most advanced weapon on earth out of a box of scraps" thing he has going on.
>>69324023
black panther is enhanced, basically a super soldier, like cap and buck.
>>69324108
I heard it was some panther goddess.
>>69323286
no they aren't
>>69324047
>comparing a capeshit thread on /tv/ to a serious discussion on a hard-hitting current event
>>69324065
Lighter, more maneuverability? War Machine's a tank, Falcon's a scout/skirmisher.
>>69324108
stronger i think
Was waiting for Cap to get killed. Surprised they strayed that far from the original Civil War story. Although a few theres were taken straight from the comic. Glad they included this pic in the film though.
Are they waiting for the Cap kill in the next movie or what?
>>69324155
Yeah. Notice how in the movie, even when he's out of costume, he's making jumps a normal person shouldn't be able to make and landing blows that have way more impact than s normal punch should.
>>69321626
>>69322031
Why does he have superpowers in the movie? He takes on and runs as fast as Winter Soldier. Wut up with that?
>>69324165
He's not a superhuman, metahuman, "enhanced individual," or anything like that
>>69324192
I'm not comparing them. But it is the same principle and serves as an easy to understand example for even the dumbest of the dumb. Or so I thought until you posted.
>>69324254
No, they're about the same in terms of strength. Panther might beat him out a bit on agility, though. The herb also enhances his senses, so he has night vision, the ability to track people by scent, excellent hearing, etc.
>>69322061
What did he mean with the orange slices?
>>69324265
I thought he was just a really agile dude who obviously knows crazy Wakanda martial arts and has a suit with Vibranium in it
>>69324284
See: >>69324108
>>69324333
Even out of the costume he's throwing Bucky around like he weighs nothing. And when the bomb first goes off at the UN, he makes this huge fucking leap to try and save his dad. Also, he can run faster than a car, fast enough to keep up with the super soldiers.
The suit doesn't make him run faster, it just shields him from impact.
>>69324108
>Wakandan herb
*hits blunt*
HOL UP
>>69324108
>>69324308
If BPs power comes from some herb then what's with his ring? There were at least 2 close up shots that made it seem important, one of them during his fight with Bucky.
>>69324319
Never played sports as a kid? Not even in school?
>>69324065
He's far more agile than the IM suits because he has wings, and he's not in a 700lb metal coffin, so he can fight on foot and indoors instead of just hovering around.
In TWS he evades the AA gatling turrets on the Helicarriers pretty easily, which is pretty impressive.
>>69323632
Mr. Fantastic is an ultra genius, Lang isnt. Why is that surprising?
>>69321550
You don't have to invent a new kind of particle they never show on screen.
>>69321464
If you use the examples of growing and shrinking in the movie Ant-Man you can get some pretty consistent rules I'm gonna lay out because autism. na;dr version is the suit is where the strength comes from, otherwise shrunken objects lose their weight.
With no fancy suit on, the red pym particles shrink the size and mass of objects. Examples include the tank keychain and Cross picking up the shrunken lamb in a science crate. I guess carrying the tanker in Civil War too.
With no fancy suit on, the blue pym particles undo the effects of the red particles. For now just think of them as making shrunken objects normal again.
Now if you go big, grow in size with the blue particles then you also get proportional increase in mass. Otherwise the Thomas train and dog sized ant would blow away with their mass to surface area ratios. It seems like the ant increases it's strength proportionately at dog size.
The suit itself is more than an integrated particle reserve and oxygen supply, it's got regulators and other electronics wired in it. The suit was what let's Ant-Man be strong when he's tiny, the suit preserves some part of his mass but only in that it relates to his acceleration. That explains both his strength and how he's light enough to ride an ant but will also how if he falls far enough he'll dent a cab roof. The suit keeps his biology working somehow.
But you can't just tell all that to the audience, so they say he punches like a bullet because people understand bullets are small and strong. The rule of thumb is small is light and big is heavy. Anytime that deviates, blame the suit.
>>69324426
I think the ring was just to symbolize the Black Panther mantle passing from father to son.
>>69324426
I'm not Murrican, I'm from a civilized country. Now explain faggot, before Trump gets elected and has you euthanized.
>>69324308
ive never really read black panther comics but isn't cap peak human while panther is just edging into superhuman?
>>69324426
>There were at least 2 close up shots that made it seem important, one of them during his fight with Bucky.
BP's ring and Bucky's arm are both made from the same metal, and BP realized this
Computer, fire up the mozza-rell sequence.
>>69324449
i'm sorry, i meant to say hank pym
they really should be called richards particles :^)
>>69324492
cap is a bit above normal human, enhanced stamina, resistant to toxins, like the gas in the movie, faster healing etc. plus the insane shit he does in the movies and comics.
>>69324023
>>69324108
>>69324165
>>69324174
Not to mention a lot of these characters are spies/ex-military etc
>>69324488
I'm not American either buddy. And I would've been fine spoonfeeding you until you turned into anamecalling rude dude eh?
>>69324426
I dont know exactly what the fuck was up with that ring but what I gather from watching those two interactions is that its some kind of anti vibranium.
I think they previously established that Vibranium is constantly vibrating or something, I assume the ring was made to vibrate at an opposing frequency and thats what allowed BP to control or repel Winter Soldiers arm.
>>69324534
>>69324617
Buckys arm isn't Vibranium though.
>>69324426
The ring just represents the rulership of Wakanda, or alternately is just something of value passed from father to son. It's not tied to his superhero abilities.
>>69324108
>>69324262
Is that Daredevil?
>>69324590
yea, ive read a bunch of cap comics. cap is always described as "peak human" or whatever. he can run at 40mph, can bench 500lbs easily, etc.
panther is described on the marvel wiki as being superhuman. this is different than peak human and usually implies a higher tier of strength.
>>69324656
The outside plates of it are, yeah.
That's why Cap was so surprised when he caught the shield in TWS.
Is the same costume as the one in ANT-MAN?
>>69321255
Hang on, is this fucking real? Do Hollywood have no shame? Seriously, this big Marvel cash in lately is nothing short of fucking embarrassing.
>>69324262
>Was waiting for Cap to get killed
And blow up the money train? Chris and RDJ are doing at least ten more movies. Only Rudd and Ruffalo would still have careers outside of marvel
>>69324681
I've heard black panther has bested cap in fighting, and is possibly the better fighter of the two.
>Peak human
>Holds down a helicopter
Explain
>>69324706
Nah m8, pretty sure they explicity stated it isn't vibranium. They did in the comics anyway. And if it was coated in vibranium Tony wouldn't have been able to disintegrate it like he did.
>>69324677
civil war was fucking brutal in the comics, shame the movie is shitnot as shit as the 2nd avengers but still shit
>>69324492
Yeah, but in the movies Cap is unquestionably superhuman. Dude curled a fucking helicopter.
>>69324770
you haven't heard of the Olympic heli hold?
>>69324780
The Civil War comic storyline is a garbage fire. The movie was better.
>>69324733
What exactly are you complaining about? The fact that a superhero movie has tie-in merchandise? Are you retarded?
>>69323974
>>69324023
>>69323958
The other normal humans without super suits were always portrayed as hyper competent and in peak physical condition. Falcon was not.
Black Panther is going to be a sleeper hit just you wait
>>69324738
Caps death would be the one thing to reunite the Avengers.
With the ending of Civil War I am sensing an immediate sequel. Because having the Avengers just work together because of Thanos would be too abrupt. Maybe have Vision somehow revive Cap with his head gem once the Avengers are united again.
Its apparent the Cap movies are in good hands, Winter Solider was amazing and Civil War got everything right, even if the stakes didn't feel as high as I wanted them to do be.
>>69324789
>2016
>not leaving humanity behind
do you even lift brah
>>69324770
That shit was cool t b h
i like that he has low level super strength
I think the movie would have been a lot better is don cheeto died
>>69324789
yea i guess but cap has probably done something similar in the comics. it all depends on the writer.
>>69324828
really excited for it desu black panther was the best part of civil war
>>69324822
Falcon is a god damn war hero. watch your mouth.
>>69324822
>Falcon was not
Why, because he couldn't outrun Cap?
>>69324770
The MCU takes a lot if inspiration from the Ultimate universe, where Cap is undoubtedly superhuman.
Falcon using tech suit and drones (instead of talking to birds) is from Ultimates.
Same with Hawkeye and Widow being shield agents and not having real costumes.
>>69324850
>don cheeto
>>69324822
>The other normal humans without super suits were always portrayed as hyper competent and in peak physical condition.
I'm pretty sure Falcon could run laps around StarkHe can certainly outrun Rhodes now
>>69322037
/pol/, stop ruining this board.
>>69321464
Pym Particles: IT JUST WORKS
>>69324907
>Rhodes
Pretty savage
>>69322201
because it did? its a completely new costume
Black Panther is almost as physically able as Captain America. He gets his powers from a Wakandan herb that he eats.
>>69325072
Panther>Bucky>Cap in physical ability
>>69325072
And here's Cap's. Captain America is the supremum in every area of human ability.
>>69321464
>comic books
>accurate physics
Pick one and only one
>>69325072
that image is old as hell m8, more recent stuff from marvel indicates the herb gives him superhuman levels of strength and senses
kinda doesn't matter though since the MCU is "different" but in civil war it felt like panther WAS stronger than both cap and bucky by a little bit
>>69325072
So Daredevil can beat him?
>>69325117
Cap > Bucky > Panther actually in the comics.
In the MCU, Cap > Bucky, as Cap beat Bucky in Winter Soldier. Cap's legs were stronger than Bucky's metal arm.
>>69325117
I'm pretty sure that exact book says Cap can press 800lbs to Panthers 750. And he's just as agile.
>>69323632
>a written character was written to understand fake physics better than another written character does
I don't understand what you're reminding us of.
>>69324477
I thought the movie said it increased his strength when he got smaller, so basically he becomes 1/50th the size and 50 times stronger. The fact that he doesn't get weaker when he gets big is I guess because like you said the blue particles work differently.
>>69325072
I've heard he has knocked out elephants and T-rexes
>>69325062
speaking of suits, cool that they stuck with the suit cap has in this one, and not the first one in winter soldier
>>69325117
bucky > cap? why?
>>69325165
The other Winter soldiers looked like they had bootleg super soldier serum
>>69325154
Who wins in a fight is entirely up to the writer. Daredevil is not as strong as BP or Captain America, though.
>>69325176
Captain America is the best possible in every area of human skill without being superhuman. He's the theoretical maximum in every area. So he will always be more agile than any human in practice.
Spiderman>BP>Cap>Bucky
>>69324822
Falcon kept in shape, still had his special forces training, and had been on the Avengers training regime for the past year.
>>69325124
>>69325072
>55lbs heavier
>can only lift 50lbs more
Lmao
>>69325264
Yes.
But Spider Man couldn't beat Cap in a hand to hand fight. Cap can out think Spidey in a fighting situation.
Wolverine can't even beat Cap in a hand to hand fight.
>>69325319
Mature Spiderman > Cap 10/10 times
>>69324822
>bird costume isn't a super suit
>>69325285
What's that got to do with anything? BP's natural physical abilities like strength are enhanced a small amount by the herb. Captain America's natural base abilitise are the ability to press 800 pounds. If he inhaled the herb, he'd be enhanced to superhuman levels.
Also, what does the weight of a guy have to do with how much he can lift? Picture related.
>>69325358
Spiderman with Iron Mans insane spidey suit yes.
Cap has pretty much trained every Avenger in close combat, but he will always have the experience to be at least one step ahead. Unless its against the Hulk or Thor.
>>69325319
Spider Man was nerfed in this movie. He had no spider sense, no agility, didn't use his strength at all except in that one scene where he caught the arm. Either he was nerfed, or he was purposely not trying his best.
>>69325319
Spider-Man is like Cap x10. There should be no reason Cap would beat him in a fight.
>>69323892
Blacktion.
>>69324477
that makes a lot more sense. thanks for taking the time to write it up
>>69325431
Even then he can job to the heavyweights for a (a long, long) while because of his shield. He just can't really hurt them.
>>69325437
he's only had his powers for 6 months
>>69325437
he sensed some huge shit Bucky threw at him inside the terminal, then threw it back ridiculously hard, I think he had both the spider sense(though not at comic levels), and the super strength(he stopped that shit cap dropped on him)
>>69325437
Spiderman has only had his powers for a few months in this movie
He's inexperienced and cocky, and it shows
>>69325437
It's not hard to understand, he is in dumb inexperienced kid mode, had to wear special goggles to focus. He didn't even have a legit suit until stark gave him one.
>>69325394
Just making fun of your autismal obsession with acting like something written in a comic book is real life.
>>69325124
Does old cap have the highest BMI of any superhero?
>>69325441
It is apparent Cap is extremely impressed with Spider Man. But he is just a kid and Cap exposed that weakness, I am sure if Spider Man wanted to he could grab a hold of Caps head and twist it off. But Spiderman would never do that.
>>69325437
He doesn't even really know how to control his spider-sense yet, hence the goggles and lens-mask.
>>69324426
not really sure what was going on with that arm thing. no one seems to be talking about it. it kind of looked to me like he could control vibranium, but buckys arm is only lightly armored in it and mostly a different metal, which i rationalized was the reason why tony could blast it off but not damage the shield which was a thick chunk of vibranium
None of this would have happened if he threw a water truck.
>>69325431
Pic related.
>>69325483
So? He immediately got superpowered when he got his powers. What's that have to do with anything?
>>69325496
Sensed? Or avoided? He didn't sense Ant Man, didn't sense anything else that came his way. He was the punching bag in the fight. They highlighted his durability (which he has as a power, but it's not what he's known for) and totally ignored the agility/reflexes/spider sense which is his main shit.
>>69325497
First thing Peter Parker did when he realised he had powers was find out exactly what he could and couldn't do. Also, recall that his spider sense is involuntary and activates on his own.
>>69325513
Autismal isn't a word.
>yfw you realize spiderman could have potentially destroyed caps' entire team on his own save for probably SW
>>69325072
>he can lift (The Press™) 750lbs
Is "unidentified heart-shaped herb" Wakandan for celltech?
>>69325191
I don't know about that exact factor, but more or less. What the movie "says" is the simplified for general audiences version. Being 'strong' isn't really a force, you need something in that equation to make the force he exerts greater and the movie just says he keeps his mass to explain it.
>>69321514
>Are you mad that BLACK men are being empowered?
Why how can anyone be tired of something that has been shoved down our throats for 20+ years?
>>69325648
>cap doing any of this shit
somehow it's hard to believe cap could even touch hulk unless he was literally sandbagging
>>69325648
>autismal isn't a word
Says the guy obsessing over comic book character power levels.
>>69325648
I'm pretty sure he sensed it cause he was facing away from it, said "oh crap" or something like that, and then got out of the way. He didn't "see" it coming so he had to have sensed it.
>>69325577
Nah. There's the Blob. Hulk's BMI is also huge since he's 7'6" and weighs 1000 pounds.
>>69325497
>aunt may flirting with Tony when Ben isn't even cold yet
Jesus Christ
>>69325648
listen m8 contain the autism for one second
the REASON spiderman was the "punching bag" was because he was inexperienced. he still held his own against people with way more experience in fighting other "enhanced individuals"
this is the MCU, not the comics so maybe peter parker didn't sit down and find out exactly what he could and couldn't do and even IF he did that doesn't mean he's 100% used to using them in a fight with other people with powers
the scene with bucky throwing something at him and him throwing back was referencing his spidey sense, that's blindingly obvious
>>69325669
I already knew senpai I just didn't want him to.
>>69325732
That's Banner Hulk he's not as strong as regular HULK SMASH hulk
>>69325732
Oh you think that is bad? That's nothing.
>>69325745
Does it really matter who calls you out on being an idiot? You're an idiot. Plain and simple.
>>69325746
Hmm, nice.
>>69325669
>He thinks spider-boy is as strong as his comic counterpart
>>69325610
>buckys arm is only lightly armored in it
Since when? They never say it is. And it certainly isn't in the comics.
>the reason why tony could blast it off but not damage the shield which was a thick chunk of vibranium
It's because Buckys arm isn't vibranium. Vibranium can't be fucked with. It doesn't matter how thick it is. If Tonys laser could disintegrate Buckys arm, they would have at least left a mark, dent, or scratch on Caps shield. Only visible damage to Caps shield was from Panthers (vibranium) claws
>>69325437
>Either he was nerfed, or he was purposely not trying his best.
tony told him to go easy and web them up. and even if tony told him to punch them, he would hold back because he could LITERALLY punch a hole in everyones face, armor or not, except for vision and black panther at full strength. imagine being a grown man and everyone else has the strength and resistance of babies, so you have to give them love taps or theyll die. point is, fuck you, dogs are balls
>>69325772
Her body her choice shitlord.
>>69325841
The Professor was actually stronger than Savage Hulk.
>>69325864
This. Not sure where the meme that Bucky's arm is vibranium started but they never even remotely suggest this in the movies.
>>69321626
Bucky was wrecking him
>>69324262
>69324262
My favorite part of the movie was that it had barely anything to do with the comic. Seriously the fucking comic is one of the biggest piles of garbage to come out of Marvel since Onslaught and Heroes Reborn.
>>69325844
This was the most bullshit moment I've ever seen. >Putting a cosmic being into an armlock
>>69325919
It is most certainly adamantium, but because Fox owns the rights to X-Men they can't say it. Just like how the mutants are renamed "enchanced's".
>>69324829
>let's kill Captain America so we can bring him back
That's retarded.
>>69325648
>his spider sense is involuntary and activates on his own
yes. but REACTING to it is something he has to consciously do. its always been like this in any incarnation. he gets a tingling in the back of his head and he has to learn to trust it an fuck off out of the way when he feels it. the bigger the danger, the stronger (and more obvious) the feeling
>>69325360
its not armor. it doesn't augment his strength. he's completely vulnerable.
>>69325864
Cap's shield wasn't damaged by the claws. The paint was scraped off.
>>69321255
typical marvelretards gobbling up a garbage movie saying its the greatest of all time of all time>how did Zemo know Wanda would fuck up in Laos
>why wasn't the vision in the first mission in laos?
>how come captain america didn't respect other nations sovereignty when it came to who they wanted in their countries?
>how come zemo knew 1991 was important?
>how come tony, who hacked into shield in the avengers, didn't find out about hydra?
>how come tony didn't realize or read through the documents that black widow leaked to the world and find out about 1991 before zemo?
>how did zemo know that cap and iron man would be split on the accords?
>how did he know that other avengers would be split on both sides?
>how come scarlet witch still doesn't have a visa?
>why are german police in Hungary?
>how did zemo know he would be the only one in the room?
>how did zemo know bucky wouldn't kill cap?
>how did zemo know bucky would get captured by cap?
>how did zemo know that cap would even have a vested interest in bucky? did he have footage of him not fighting him on the helicarrier?
>why did war machine even care about falcon? after being in that high of an altitude for a while, he'd need to go down, he probably just could've ignored him
>why didn't vision just shoot down the jet that cap and bucky where in?
>why didn't cap ask vision to meet him in the bunker?
>how did zemo know that iron man would get to the bunker?
>how did zemo know that tony wouldn't have brought friends?
>how did zemo know that footage of bucky killing tony's parents in the middle of nowhere even existed?
>>69326073
The script
>>69326027
Recall that Tobey Maguire was able to use it no problem when fighting Flash Thompson in the hall of his high school.
Moving out of the way of a fist coming at you, when your reflexes operate 40x faster than a human's, when you have a tingling a second before it even happens seems pretty easy to me.
>>69325810
cool of the Crimson Chin to sub in for Cap on this outing
>>69325669
Nigga, Ant-man nearly soloed Iron Man's entire time.
>>69325437
He had that one moment of spider-sense when Bucky threw some shit at him, and he had plenty of agility. Also his strength was very much there, easily stopping Bucky's arm and almost effortlessly catching the pass-through that Cap dropped on him, as well as that short clip of him catching a car.
Just because you're tired of seeing Spider-Man rebooted every 5 years doesn't mean this Spider-Man wasn't great.
comix
It would have been cool to me if tobey came back t b h
>>69326159
I didn't say he wasn't great and I also didn't say I was tired of seeing him rebooted every five years. I said he was either nerfed or not trying.
>>69326119
Realistically spiderman could have taken out ant-man as soon as he got big.
>web goggles
>web joints
>knock his ass over
>>69326172
With an older Tugboat you could also bring in Miles Morales to appeal to the SJWs.
>>69326208"Did anyone see that really old movie, 'Empire Strikes Back?'"
>>69325810
>>69326113
Never mind that, what the hell's going on with his torso?
>>69326208
>MAXIMUM SPIDER
>SHIELD SLASH
>REPULSOR BLAST
Why weren't they saying their attack names?
DROPPED
>>69326235
I could watch a 2 hour movie with just new kid Spidey and X-Men Quicksilver.
>>69326109
>seems pretty easy to me
cooking eggs seems easy when you have no experience. then you try it and burn them because you dont actually know what youre doing
>first time i cooked eggs they came out good
not the point. talking is easier than doing
>>69326207
>dont know if spiderman was nerfed or if he was holding back
>be told hes inexperienced
>be told hes had his powers for 6 months
>be told the plan wasnt to murder everyone but to simply web them up
>absolutely refuse to accept any of the explanations and continue to be confused and upset
>>69326296
Now THIS is autism.
>>69326296
>what is reading comprehension
dummy
>>69326073
Zemo doesn't have some grand master plan.
He has a goal and continually takes steps towards that goal, both taking the initiative and reacting to what the Avengers do as it is convenient.
Any number of things could have happened differently, few of them would have prevented Zemo from splitting up the Avengers and turning Steve against Tony.
Can't wait for Homecoming
>>69326260
most of cap's upper body was replaced with a formula 1 chassis after a horrible accident, leading to spider-man commanding the avengers for this trip while he recovers psychologically
>>69326335
>>69326404
dont bitch about him if youre not gonna listen to anybody then
>>69326460
I thought was Bucky as Captain America before Rogers was revived?
>>69321501
But, he was...
>>69325648
Did we watch the same movie? Or were you not paying attention? He explained that he'd been having trouble dealing with his new senses, which is what the whole lens-focus gimmick is about. Even so, he clearly uses spidersense to dodge something Bucky throws at him. Like it was a clear as day, close up in-your-face "LOOK HE HAS PRECOGNITIVE SENSES" scene and you still missed it? ADHD or what?
Agility? Literally the first thing he did was jump around and hop over peoples heads like Legolas on the falling bridge in the Hobbit. He spends most of his fighting time moving through the air, he's agile as fuck.
Strength? They show it in the apartment scene and then Tony emphasizes it with expository dialogue, Spiderman kicks Giantman in the fucking face and staggers him, he effortlessly sends Falcon flying with a kick and hold back Buckys arm, drags Cap by his legs with his web with ease, stops War Machine from hitting the plane just as easily, catches and holds the jet bridge.. There's tons of examples of his strength.
And then you go on to say they highlighted his durability when the biggest hit he took was from a ~30 foot fall that immediately incapacitated him? Were you paying attention at all?
>>69326073
>typical marvelretards gobbling up a garbage movie saying its the greatest of all time of all time
>>how did Zemo know Wanda would fuck up in Laos
He didn't; it was unnecessary
>>why wasn't the vision in the first mission in laos?
He wasn't needed, same as War Machine.
>>how come captain america didn't respect other nations sovereignty when it came to who they wanted in their countries?
Because of the reasoning in the film.
>>how come zemo knew 1991 was important?
Black Widow leaked the data.
>>how come tony, who hacked into shield in the avengers, didn't find out about hydra?
Layers and layers of encryption.
>>how come tony didn't realize or read through the documents that black widow leaked to the world and find out about 1991 before zemo?
He was a busy and they were heavily encrypted.
>>how did zemo know that cap and iron man would be split on the accords?
He studied both of them.
>>how did he know that other avengers would be split on both sides?
He didn't; unnecessary.
>>how come scarlet witch still doesn't have a visa?
She's still new.
>>why are german police in Hungary?
They weren't.
>>how did zemo know he would be the only one in the room?
He didn't, unnecessary.
>>how did zemo know bucky wouldn't kill cap?
Cap survived Bucky before.
>>how did zemo know bucky would get captured by cap?
That fits Cap's MO.
>>how did zemo know that cap would even have a vested interest in bucky? did he have footage of him not fighting him on the helicarrier?
He studied Cap.
1/2
>>69326073
>>why did war machine even care about falcon? after being in that high of an altitude for a while, he'd need to go down, he probably just could've ignored him
Because he was an enemy combatant.
>>why didn't vision just shoot down the jet that cap and bucky where in?
His orders were to get rid of Falcon.
>>why didn't cap ask vision to meet him in the bunker?
Why would he?
>>how did zemo know that iron man would get to the bunker?
The murdered body.
>>how did zemo know that tony wouldn't have brought friends?
He didn't, unnecessary.
>>how did zemo know that footage of bucky killing tony's parents in the middle of nowhere even existed?
Black Widow leaked hydra's files.
>>69326520
>>69326296
Why samefag?
>>69326564
Autism.
Shitposting on /tv/ is so easy.
>>69326172
Easy there, grandpa.
>>69326232
Who?
>"SMALL GUY IS NOW BIG!"
>"For you!"
>>69326260
And his legs, and his arms, and the fact that his shield is situated entirely on his right shoulder blade?
Pretty much the entire panel is shitty art.
Was the Ant-Man in the comics at all like what we see in the movies? Kind of goofy and self aware? Or was he much more serious. Genuinely curious.
Literally Tumblrwoman; a Marvel™ Netflix series
>>69326595
literally hurr turn off your brain bro answers, fuck off
>>69326776
No, her neighbor with the dead brother was Tumblrwoman. She was just sad and drank too much.
>>69326800
Looks like you got rekt.
>>69326774
Hank is not.
Scott is.
>>69326842
sure
>>69326848
Thank god they choose Scott then
>>69326902
Sorry BvS was shitty, bro.
>>69326912
You watched Ant-Man, right?
Hank's still around, he's just retired. He was Ant-Man during the Cold War.
>>69324907
>>69325394
>Also, what does the weight of a guy have to do with how much he can lift? Picture related.
t. dyel
>>69326723
It's only a matter of time before there's a legit Banepost in a Marvel flick. The meme will have been bubbling at the normie surface for a while before going full blown viral. Baneposting will join the ranks of lolcats and rickrolling, enjoyed by normies for an extended period of time until it too becomes tired. Marvel will Banepost and the MCU will have officially jumped the shark. Historians will look back and unanimously agree that this was the nail in the coffin for capeshit. We will finally be rid of this garbage, but at a cost - for Baneposting will have sacrificed itself for the greater good. This is its fate. It is known.
>Tony will be in Homecoming
I hope we see them team up at least once, but not against the big bad
Maybe they beat up the bad guy before he turns into the big, final bad guy
>>69326068
You can't be serious. First of all the scratches went through the unpainted parts as well. Secondly that does nothing to refute my point even if it were true, seeing as the claws were the only thing able to "scratch the paint" so to speak when all of Tonys weapons couldn't, still proves that the shield and arm are not the same material.
>>69325976
>It is most certainly adamantium
It's not. If it were, they would have mentioned it in the comics. It also wouldn't have been destroyed so easily in the movie.
>because Fox owns the rights to X-Men they can't say it. Just like how the mutants are renamed "enchanced's"
I hate when people make such ignorant assumptions and spread mis-info as facts. They can say it if they want to. Fox only owns the franchise name and a good portion of the characters. Marvel just made a conscious decision to not acknowledge any properties they don't have film rights to, in an attempt to sabotage the brands in hopes of the studios selling them back for a cheap price.
They could say adamantium and mutants, but people associate those words with their cinematic competitors so they don't. It's not a legal thing, they've been actively trying to sabotage xmen and fantastic 4 for years now, burying their comic runs and removing them from all Marvel universe merchandise and promotional material
>>69327029
So, movie Hank is exactly like comic Hank?
>>69326172
What is this? A comic version of the Raimi movies?
>Thor hit Caps shield
>Cap was able to hold his ground
>Bucky hits Caps shield
>Cap having trouble holding him back
>Spider-man catches Bucky's fist and laughs
How strong dis nigga
>>69326269
The fuck are you talking about? This isn't fucking dragonball they don't have attack names.
>>69327331
>brilliant scientist
>arrogant and spiteful
>punch first, ask questions later
He's pretty close.
>>69327439
Cap post Winter Soldier is much more in line with how powerful he should be. Him stopping Mjolnir in Avengers 1 was the only cool fucking thing they let Cap do in that movie.
>>69327439
>imageofSpider-manholdingupbuilding.jpg
>>69326678
>I was pretending all long hurr durr!
Haha nice try, but no. You're actually retarded. You were actively replying to everyone with your real thought out responses and digging up comic panels as evidence until you ran into a post that made you feel stupid and you tried to pull the "trolling" card. Pull that cop-out shit all you want but we all know you're full of shit and actually just dumb with the attention span of a gnat. What's even better is YOU know it too. Even if you managed to convince somebody otherwise (which you won't), YOU know the truth. Good thing you're anonymous right?
>>69327439
>hold his ground
Steve was crouched down in a ball when Thor hit him. He was standing when Bucky kicked him. It's just a leverage/balance thing.
