over a month later and this movie hasn't even made 900 million. a movie like this should be on it's way to 1.7 by now. it's so close to being a flop it's both hilarious and disturbing at the same time. batman and superman together in live action for the first time ever and it can't even make a billion.
>>69246119
movie budget-250 million $
box office gross(by now)-864 million $
864 - 250 = 614 mln $
I dont think u can call a movie that have profits over 614 mln $ a flop..It seems that u need to go back to second grade and learn mathematics,dumb marveldrone.
>>69246221
You don't know, success is measured by predicted profit, not just profit.
If i say it's going to triple in profit that's different than just breaking even.
>>69246221
>implying i called i a flop
nigga i quit capeshit after the amazing spiderman 2 and i've seen one mcu movie.
>>69246221
>this literal retard thinks a profit of 614 is perfectly acceptable for the first ever batman vs superman movie.
there's no excuse why this shouldn't end up with a worldwide total of at least 2.3 and it can't even make 1.
and also dont forget that WB still havent released the blu-ray with the extended cut that is 3hr.When they release it somewhere in the middle of July a lot of people will buy it and they will earn a fuck ton of money from it too.
>>69246446
LOL it's gonna have to make up that poor theatrical gross with blu-ray sales.
>>69246221
BvS needed to Make 678 trillion dollars in the first 34 hours of its release TO JUST BREAK EVEN
source: /tv/
>>69246274
What was WBs predicted profit then
i saw the movie yesterday. IT wasnt 20% bad but it could have been better. The story was strange and confusing as fuck
>>69246724
That's because it was half political thriller and half action film
Like, literally split. It turns in to an action movie at the hour or so mark
Unemployed millenials arguing over movie finances fucking kills me
>>69246723
definitely well over a billion.
>>69246801
It's like when /v/ argues about video game sales and company wars
/v/, /b/ and /tv/ were all separated at birth. People that don't understand that think they understand.
>>69246801
you smile for the camera but you are upset.
>>69246803
Source?
>>69246835
>implying you understand any more than us
alright, kid. don't you have homework to do?
>>69246221
>what is marketing?
>>69246871
>>69246723
2 BILLION EASILY
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>>69246878
I don't argue about things I don't understand. You people do.
>>69247038
/thread
>>69247038
>movie made less than 900
>should have made a lot more
how is that hard for you to understand?
>>69246674
>BvS needed to Make 678 trillion dollars in the first 34 hours of its release TO JUST BREAK EVEN
It is known.
>Sony = DC
>Xbox = Marvel
>PC = Vidyakino
Why haven't you joined the master race, /tv/ ?
>>69247102
>should have
Your failure to provide a source shows you're pulling that out of your ass
haha bvs fans in here. IT WAS A FAILURE. forever in second place. Marvel ftw
>>69247254
>Source
It's the two most popular heroes ever.
They barely beat Vin Treesil and the space whos.
>>69247254
>he actually believes 600 million is a perfectly acceptable profit for the first ever live action batman vs superman movie
is autism a daily struggle?
>>69247321
That's not a source fuckwit
>>69247367
It's common sense pal.
>>69247397
Uh huh better luck next time. This is what I get for arguing with people under 25
>>69247488
so you actually believe 600 million is a completely reasonable profit for the first ever live action batman vs superman movie?
>>69247321
>>69247361
So you have no idea what the profit projections were, and how much they made? Okay, fine. No source.
>>69247543
its not up to you or me
>>69247573
>being this upset because bvs vastly underperformed
>>69246221
Do you even know why movies NEED to get twice as much as they put in just to break even?
It's cause they can't do the same shit again, now if they do another batman vs superman movie, no one would give a shit.
Same with another avengers movie, no one would give as much shit as they did before. Just like every other movie.
This is why 250M budget, 150M+ marketing = 865M is shit.
They literally made 65M of profit. When people that dumped a shit ton of money on it expected no less than a billion, at most 1.5 Billion.
>>69246119
It's nice that audiences actually care about what they get on the big screen and aren't just fooled by two great characters being on screen.
Sadly they decided not to see a good movie, and want to be spoon fed the same shit over and over again.
>>69247613
what's not up to you or me?
>>69247616
>Underperformed
Source?
>made a profit
>made more than last film in its series
>greenlit 2 other sequels to the film
Unlikely.
>>69247543
You're using an opinion to try to support a fact. Poorly
>>69247679
what source?
>>69247658
>tfw there are literal DCucks who watched this movie over 15 times in the theaters because of how bad it made in the BO.
>>69247720
Who are Batman and Superman? To society, in reality.
>>69247720
>support a fact
so you agree that it's a fact. good.
>>69247038
This should be a banner
>>69247773
Source for >>69247616
Retard
>>69247930
wait, >>69247773 actually worked? lmao
The funny thing is why people fucking care about how much money a movie make?
Just enjoy watching movies, retards.
>lol, you're in 4chan
Fuck off
>>69247826
You're sourcing what you say is a fact with an opinion. That's poor form in debate.
Retard.
>>69247950
See above
>>69247397
BvS didn't have 30 other movie tie ins to bring in an audience
>>69246119
If a movie featuring Batman and Superman, the two most well known superheros, makes about as much as fucking Ant Man you know there is something wrong with the movie.
Not to mention we are in the midst of the capeshit trend so it's even more embarassing.
>>69247038
Tell Hiro to put this as a banner for 4chan as a whole
>>69248095
Who are Batman and Superman? To society, in reality?
>>69246221
>I am 12 so what are taxes?
>>69247634
Haha
>double
You idiot : films have to make 30x their budget on the day they are released to make profit
Holy shit . You have no idea what you're talking about KYS
>>69247930
the new star wars made 2 billion. both avengers movies made well over a billion. the dark knight made a billion. iron man 3 made over a billion. jurassic world made well over a billion. batman v superman is nearing the end of it's theatrical run and it hasn't even beaten spiderman 3.
>>69248163
Back to redit famfam
>>69248090
lol, you're in 4chan
>>69248099
you're right, it just had the promise of uniting batman and superman on the big screen for the first time ever.
>>69248176
Explain how that determines it has underperformed, as stated here >>69247679
It's the second film in a series and is up on the previous entry. Those are facts. How did MoS and BvS do next to IM and Hulk, the first two in the Marvel series? Or against Spiderman 1/2?
>>69248099
You can sell ANYTHING with Batman and Supes. If BvS was good it wouldn't have needed set up films.
>>69248265
In reality, to society; who are Batman and Superman? Do you know?
>>69248321
>movies are more popular and important than comic books
Well good point
>>69248265
do you know who batman and superman are? i'm curious at this point.
>>69246119
People still think the reason they stopped fighting was because their moms had the same name
The modern audience is too retarded for this film
>>69248357
Ummm, yes? That's true.
Still, to the man in the street, who are Bats and Supes? Are they well known?
>>69248430
nice meme.
>>69248463
i wouldn't be surprised if the nigga said no
>>69247774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pslgz9o8meM&channel=UCGqn9Zq7BOpX8uQSrA_NNXQ
>>69246221
>Studios get all the money from ticket sales
>Movie theaters work for free
>>69248623
Nor I. He'd probably overlook decades where shoddy merch had their names all over it. Underpants in adult sizes, literal cloth for dividing your shitter from your trousers, sell for extra by having either one's face on your junk. Their popularity is about as commonplace and recognisable as Coca Cola.
>>69247193
>video game trash movie
>it's directed by a nu-male neckbeard
POTTERY
>>69248463
>>69248321
To society they are two superheroes. Maybe the most well known.
Are you implying that every person who knows who they are are also movie goers?
>>69249086
>every person who knows who they are
just to clarify, that's literally everyone, and out of everyone a decent portion of them are moviegoers. i don't know what that portion is, but it must be substantial.
>>69249086
Potential movie goers, yes.
Now, keeping this in mind, >>69248808 would you say Batman and Superman are better known or worse known than Groot?
It won't make more money because it doesn't adhere to what fanboys and formula-addicted pseudo-nerds want
>>69246221
For got about the marketing for the movie?
Pretty sure they spent close to 100m on the marketing.
>>69246119
Marvel's Cuck War is way behind!
>>69249315
it's in a shitty class all it's own.
>>69246221
>not knowing they spent 500 gorillions in marketing (the actual number is magical so it keeps on changing tho)
Do you even /tv/ breh?
>>69249349
holy shit that's sad. i bet civil war tops off at around 2.2.
>>69249374
t. fanboy manbaby
>>69249384
>Gorillions
This pleases Grodd.
>Knowing Snyder killed any hope of big screen Psychic Monkey
Grodd sad...
>>69249208
Oh I see what you're getting at, and here's why it's a stupid point.
Let's look at the Marvel cinematic universe in the last decade.
>9B gross
>huge marketing budget
>grown organically since 2007, starting small and getting larger
Now, with this info and keeping in mind that Guardians was later in the MCU, and word that Guardians was a MCU film among established customers, yes, I'd say that Guardians has a better standing among superhero movie goers on these facts alone.
>potential movie goers
I know who Adam Sandler is and so does nearly everyone, it doesn't mean I'm going to see his films. You've made a stupid point, accept it.
>>69249455
>>69249539
BTFO
>>69249539BATMAN AND SUPERMAN
>>69249539
That's nice, here's my question again.
Are Batman and Superman MORE or LESS well known than Groot.
Here's a tip, just say MORE or LESS.
>>69246221
dived that by two now
>>69249657
They're more well known. Now explain away how knowing who a character is automatically means everyone who knows who they are will see a film starring them. Explain how with dwindling comic book numbers, anything over 50,000 or so is considered to not be a diehard fan.
>>69249539
So, Snyder made Batman and Superman as loathsome as Sandler?
>>69248219
>you replied
>>69249539
This and the fact Batman has been rebooted to death since Burton and Superman is hated by almost everyone, I'm actually surprised BvS is doing this good
>>69249657
They've more well known among the public but not the public who are interested in seeing a film about them.
Why aren't you getting this? It's a simple point he's making.
>>69246119
>and this movie hasn't even made 900 million.
shitty endings do that
>>69249657
>he thinks people seen Groots film because Groot was in it
They seen it because it was titled "Marvel" you idiot
>>69249728
Ok, good.
They're more well known
>comics
Try again, comics are no relevant here. Batman and Superman are known to those who never even see comics.
Riddle me this.
How can Coca Cola lose brand loyalty?
>zootopia passed BvS domestic
MY SIDES
>>69246221
Yeah I am sure that Captain America marketing plan which went on like 10 months straight was pretty cheap unlike the BvS plan which was some trailers and "you know Batman do you know Superman? come on down!"
>>69249862
>Completely disregarding logic that doesn't agree with his point
It's like I'm on /v/. Again, you're not grasping the point. Knowing who Batman or Superman is doesn't automatically mean you're going to see a film on them.
>>69249846
>they seen it
>>69249970
>He thinks that Disney marketing is cheap
Oh child.
http://deadline.com/2016/03/avengers-age-of-ultron-profit-2015-box-office-marvel-universe-1201725562/
>250 mil production budget
>800 mil on advertising, etc
>350 mil profit
>>69248463
>ask a person on the street if they know who George Washington is
I'm sure fair amount of people would know, doesn't mean a movie about his life would clear a billion
Marvel has a series of movies each one tied to the other
The fact that bat man and super man are popular comic book characters aren't connected to their films
>>69249995
I'm sorry, the answer was New Coke.
It took a massive fuck up to damage the brand.
Can you see the parallel yet?
>Brand as big as Coca Cola
>Loses out to literally whos
Thanks for playing.
>>69250078
>The fact it's popular
>doesn't mean it's film should be
Mental gymnastics.
>>69250112
Going to address any of my other points or just admit you got BTFO anon?
>>69250168
>Popular among comic fans
You're aware that current comic circulation for Batman and Superman are well under 100,000, right? They're irrelevant in the grander scheme of things.
>>69246119
Who cares. Star Wars made 2 bill and its terrible. Absolutely terrible. Almost everyone I spoke to about it was disappointed.
The opposite is true for BvS. Its a good movie. People will remember this the next time a Star Wars or Justice League film comes to the cinemas.
>>69250235
>comics are irelevant
Yup.
But not Bats and Supes Underpants ;)
>>69250279
>Almost everyone I spoke to about it was disappointed.
finger puppets don't count, and the fact that some even disagreed with you is even more telling.
>>69250279
Yeah, people will remember how shit BvS was and took no interest in watching Justice League.
BvS would have reached the billion with ease if it had been just 'okay' but it was notoriously panned and ridiculed on release. A movie titled BATMAN VS SUPERMAN making less than a literal who like Deadpool is an embarrassment.
>>69247193
PC is in the same race as Xbox.
Also I am hyped for Warcraft
>>69250235
Batman is ridiculously popular among normies.
The fact he couldn't get a movie over a billion at what's arguably the height of the capeshit genre is fucking mindboggling.
Answer: Marvel critic conspiracy to take down DC
