Which do you prefer and why?
The Sopranos because I think it's more ambitious in that it depicted modern American culture and the post-9/11 era filled with anxiety and existential angst. I love Mad Men but The Sopranos is a show we'll probably never see again.
>>69221988
Walter White
I could give a shit about some fat greasy wog or some rich cunt in the 60's or 70's or whenever decade they were in.
>>69221988
gabagool.. who the other cuck?
>>69222039
we'll never see anything like mad men's first 3 seasons again.
>>69222105
But the first 3 seasons are the worst of the show. Still great though.
>>69222046
>Walter White
jesus, you are a sad, sad, pathetic man
>>69221988
Tony because he does more than piss himself and change his name when they send him to a gunfight.
Friendly reminder that the Americans is better than both of these shows
And I say that with full consideration that the Sopranos is one of the greatest achievements in television history
>>69222271
(You)
Sopranos was a well made, excellently crafted character study and break down of a cliched but iconic genre, while paying homage and cameoing actors from said genre. A 9/10 show.
Mad Men was a period piece soap opera or gossiping secretaries and "who is sleeping with who", it has almost no intellectual content. It was a 6/10 at best.
Mad Men. Tighter, more well planned out. Weiner's creative control and the fact that he wrote the overwhelming majority of episodes, to Chases like 5, made it more of a singular, auteur vision. Theyre both GOAT but the Sopranos was a little more meandering.
>>69222362
>Mad Men was a period piece soap opera or gossiping secretaries and "who is sleeping with who", it has almost no intellectual content. It was a 6/10 at best.
So cute when people judge Mad Men without ever having seen it. Same naive conjecture every time.
>>69222289
hes not wrong
>>69222271
No shot, although it is very, very good. Pretty great actually. This last episode was fucking staggering, a real achievement. It's top tier but not absolute Trinity tier w Mad Men/Sopranos/Wire
>>69222271
>I'm 17 and my taste is superior
>>69222415
Saw the entire thing, cover to cover.
The Carousel was the most impacting scene, and it was cheap, appealing to emotion garbage.
The rest was marriage drama / securing or losing business drama, that absolutely nobody really cared about.
When Lane hung himself I actually felt happy for him that he escaped just a bleak world. I don't even know why I finished that trash to be quite honestly, it certainly didn't pay off in the end.
>>69222196
cmon first 3 seasons have all tha slowburning drama and none of the soapiness. and obviously the stronger plot (prolly due to setting)
>>69222468
Mad Men isn't in the Trinity
Not saying the Americans should be there, but Mad Men fags are delusional if you think Mad Men belongs in a Trinity with The Wire and Sopranos
I'd put True Detective, Rome, Deadwood in the Trinity faster than the mediocre AMC shit that Mad Men was
hell I'd throw Breaking Bad in there quicker than Mad Men
>>69222631
Sopranos > Rome > Deadwood
Never saw the Wire, not interested in a show about niggers.
>>69222871
why not?
>>69222914
I just have no interest in the plight of the ghetto negro. I do have interest in the gold rush Frontier west, the modern day mafia and Italian americans, and ancient rome.
>>69222046
so instead you went for le nerdy show for people who wear zelda tshirts and have star wars posters
kill yourself redditor
Sopranos doesn't have a single bad episode.
>>69222046
Bet you think that and GoT are the best shows of all time right?
I like that they somehow complete each other, as a study of masculine character throughout the 20th century.
Whatever happened to Gary Cooper, asked Tony, weak, in front of a therapist. Then you see that the strong, silent type was always a fabrication, just another part of America's mythology.
>>69222965
why cant u be cool?
>>69223051
A Hit is a Hit is terrible.
>>69223180
>>69223270
So is D-Girl, and the episode in Season 1 with Meadow's coach.
>>69222871
Cant blame you
it's a bit overrated anyway
>>69222631
>he doesn't understand the incredibly rich symbolism that is in mad men
I bet you just thought it was a soap opera. Being a pleb must be difficult.
Mad Men is not a soap opera, you idiots. MM and Sopranos are the best two shows ever made.
The Wire and Deadwood are great but not on the same level.
>>69222212
>>69222977
>>69223090
FUCK OFF REDDITPIECEOFSHIT
FUCK OFF
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO POST ON 4CHAN
Don for sure. He was a much better character.
>>69222046
REDDIT REEEEEE
>>69223906
No, YOU'RE reddit.
> XD MUH SUPRANOS LITERALLY THE BEST LE WIRE MASTERPIECE
Fuck off and die, faggot.
>>69221988
I think Don is objectively a better person because he's not a sociopathic murderer. But i think i would get along with Tony eating gabagool
>>69223051
>A hit is a hit
>Christopher
>that one episode where tony fucks gloria in a museum or whatever
>>69221988
Hmmmmm A Good Question.... Difficult Question...... Hmmmmmm, I Think I Have To ChooseMoltisanti Thread
>>69223900
They were both brilliant. Mad Men probably had better side characters though, based Roger and Pete in later seasons.
>>69222631
>all plot and violence heavy shows
p-pure coincidence
>>69223524
D-Girl is based, Anon
>dat Moltisanti Thread bullying Favreau scene
>dat pessimistic Livia speech to AJ
>dat Pussy background story
>dat ending with "Vedi Maria"
Mad Men was a boring piece of shit that was sexist towards men and isn't accurate of how things were in the '60s. Every male character is portrayed as a complete monster.
If Sopranos is either a 9/10 or 10/10, what is Game of Thrones? A 6/10?
>>69224135
0/10
>>69224080
confirmed for never watching the show
nobody on the show was a "monster" certainly not Don. He was a broken man who slept around because he could never fill himself
>>69224080
>sexist toward men
>>69224135
Objective tv series rankings coming through
>Sopranos: 10/10
>The Shield: 9.5/10
>Mad Men: 9/10
>The Wire: 9/10
>Breaking Bad: 8/10
>Deadwood: 7.5/10 (0.5 pts reducted for incompleteness)
>Rome: 7.5/10 (same as Deadwood)
>Game of Thrones: 5/10
>The Walking Dead:2/10
>>69222046
ok let's for a second assume you're not a troll and not from reddit
Walter White himself was a good character. Bryan Cranston was absolutely based.
Breaking Bad itself without him would be cancelled in the first season. But it doesn't make it a good show.
>>69222558
kys
>>69224135
Game of Thrones S1-S3 -7.5/10
Game of Thrones S4-Present - 4.5-5/10
>>69221988
don't make me choose, recently rewatched mad men again as well
both are my favs, deadwood being third and i just finished watching it for the first time a week ago, i was really surprised how it wascut off at the end, no big showdown with hearst nothing, it went on like a "regular" episode, damn shame
>>69222271
It is not better than either but it is certainly great and it is the best currently airing show.
>>69222046
hello rebbit
>>69222631
I love true detective but c'mon man
>>69224323
Usually these rankings are shitposts, but this is actually very good. I would switch The Shield and Mad Men but that's just my opinion familia. How would you rank Six Feet Under and Boardwalk Empire (If you've seen them)?
>>69227523
Haven't seen SFU, Boardwalk I'd rank a 7
>>69222046
Literally fucking reddit show
>>69222558
You really missed the nuances of the show, then. Its not a simple or easy series, it asks a lot of its audience.
>>69221988
Don because despite his personal flaws he was still a romantic idealist and also respected the laws of our great nation
>>69229194
What about desertion, fraud, etc?
>>69229472
what about it?
>>69229583
Don broke him some laws is what I'm saying
>>69222631
Rome is just a time waster though. Sometimes fun, but no-one takes it seriously.
>>69224323
Deadwood is two orders of magnitude better than BrBa. It has real, unique characterization and thematic weight. BrBa is nothing more than superficial entertainment. Rome's much better than BrBa as well.
I think I like Mad Men better.
It's so close though.
>>69222271
The Americans has A LOT of flaws.
>>69221988
I prefer Deadwood you cocksucker
>>69229709
Identity theft and desertion in order to get away from the physical and emotional trauma of his childhood is a bit different to murdering and stealing for your own personal gain (at least ethically, if not legally).
>>69229709
>Don broke him some laws is what I'm saying
>>69222362
>Sopranos was a well made, excellently crafted character study and break down of a cliched but iconic genre
sopranos is full of cliché, especially through the psychiatrist.
>>69222631
>tfw you find him. The biggest pleb on /tv/
>>69229049
>it asks a lot of its audience.
Yes, the audience needs to have deep thoughts about a big 40 yo baby who never ever reflected on his life which leads him to whine that ''he has no one''.
Mad men is a show for the normie with low IQ
>>69224248
>He was a broken man who slept around because he could never fill himself
This is deep according to 20 yo TV-repressed-homosexuals
>>69221988
Don>Tony>Soprano's>Mad MenDeadwood>them
>>69230030
please name them
>>69223170
good post anon
>>69233116
>cliché
theyre trained to speak slow (to be non-threatening)
some are totally into freud\jung
theyre never as objective as you would want someone in that position to be
Impossible to choose. The Twin Towers of the Golden Age of TV
>>69222362
it was more about the why than the who but you gave it a shot
>>69222365
Good argument desu
>>69223170
>Then you see that the strong, silent type was always a fabrication
Oh hi I didn't see you there I was too busy making millions and having sex with a titcow.
>>69223170
v nice.
Although they do approach this in the sopranos
>"He was gay, Gary Cooper?"
They're both great. Undeniably two of the best works in television, ever.But Mad Men has Roger and Pete so Mad Men is GOAT
>>69233215
this is a great metaphor, and fitting for his character.
>>69223170
>as a study of masculine character throughout the 20th century
As well as the American Dream. Its orchestrated fabrication in Mad Men, and its modern bastardization, or remnants in the Sopranos.
>>69233687
>Strong
Had a heart attack while banging a girl.
>Silent
MFer couldn't stfu. Loudmouth pos
>>69233687
yes, trying to be noticed by women and earning money is what a strong silent type does.
When will summer end?
madmen has given us more memes so
>>69234107
CARMELLA WOULD YOU PLEASE SHUT YOUR MOOOOOOUTH
>>69234107
THE KING ORDERED IT
>>69233465
I think he said it was cliché in that it uses a psychiatrist as a plot device in order to explain things
>>69222046
>Could give a shit
You fucking Americans
>>69233687
He inherited everything he owned from his dad, he was insecure about that
Tony. Don only seems to care about his family on a superficial level. It's almost like they're only part of his disguise. Ton loves them for who they are, and for what they are to him.
>>69233116
If that's a cliché, The Sopranos is responsible for it.
Why didn't Gandolfini use the eagles to fly out of Jersey?
>>69224080
>contrives sexism from unsubstantiated evidence
>actually triggered
Why don't you grow up. You're worse than tumblr
What did he mean by this?
>>69234539
He overheard Don accusing the computer salesman of being Satan
>>69234539
I couldn't believe I heard that when it first aired. Literally dropped the show right then and there.
>there are people on /tv/ RIGHT NOW that put Mad Memes on the same league as The Sopranos and The Wire
>>69234698
You might should watch it before talking out yer ass
>>69234468
>not ducks
you almost did it right.
>>69232922
Valid
>>69234799
I did watch it before dropping it somewhere in season 3 I think
literally
>le whacky 50s
>lmao how different everything was xD
>omg so this is how american people reacted to famous events
the series
>incredibly rich symbolism
toppest of keks, I can't believe people this stupid exist, there's more symbolism in one sopranos episode than in a whole mad men season
>>69221988
I like both the characters a lot. Although, the Sopranos is easily the better show
>>69224323
Holy shit. Accurate ratings. Who'd of thought we'd see this on this day.
is the shield actually worth?
i remember seeing a commercial for it years ago and going bleh
>>69235090
Definitely. It's certainly not as 2deep4u as Mad Men or The Sopranos, but it doesn't try to be. It has just the right balance between humour, drama, shock value and moments that make you go 'are you fucking serious?".
>>69221988
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>>69235090
I took a long time to watch The Shield, mostly because of the SoA comparisons which led me to believe it was trash like SoA. It's actually great, watchable as fuck, lots of great characters and plotlines and the best dramatic denouement of any TV series ever. It's inferior only to The Sopranos because Sopranos' ending is objectively the best, but Shield ended perfectly for what it was.
>>69221988
Why do I hate all the women so much, are the writers (of both series) actively trying to make them look like stupid, irresponsible pieces of shit?
Betty and Peggy are such terrible people, I hate them.
>>69233152
>implying Don's internal struggles are reducible to just that element of him
>implying Don is the only character that matters
Pleb as fuck analysis, anon.
>>69235471
Betty is incredibly narcissistic and vain and Peggy sometimes made stupid decisions because she failed to see the big picture, but I wouldn't call either of them 'terrible people'.
>>69235471
>hating Peggy
Get the fuck out. Peggy is hilarious.
>>69235471
early (fat) peggy is shit, later peggy, wew lad
>>69234862
>he watches tv for symbolism and plot
might i recommend that as a man of such discerning tastes you take your opinions to reddit?
>>69235471
why yes they are and they're also making the men look like stupid, irresponsible pieces of shit too
