What the fuck was his problem?
>muh family
>>69161455
somebody stole his sick-ass ski mask
Why did he bother doing all that shit when he could have just emailed iron man the video?
>>69161713
Tony would calm down in his way to find Cap and Buck.
>>69161455
He was the Scream 2 villain.
>>69161455
Baron teemo
Him and the nigger were burdened with shouldering the actual acting in the movie and he was undercut by slightly worse dialogue.
He isn't passionately making out with me desu.
Why do Marvel villains look so boring?
>>69161713
>emailed the video
HAHAHA DKEKS THINK THIS IS A VIABLE STRATEGY
>>69161455
He wanted to fuck the qt french girl, but she turned out to be a jew.
That's...a lot to go through when all it takes is sneaking up on cap or iron man and shooting them in the head with a pistol.
>>69161713
why not make a logo for every superhero too?
I get it's cool to write a sneaky shadowy villain pulling strings and shit for some big elaborate plan but jesus, writers really need to stop using it as such a crutch to their stories.
>>69162859
>shooting Tony's head when he has his fucking bleeding edge armor.
>shooting Cap's head when he has enhanced reflexes.
>>69161455
Thor crashed his Ferrari
>>69162948
>shooting Cap's head when he has enhanced reflexes.
I don't know if you've ever watch a captain america or avengers movie, but cap can't dodge fucking bullets.
And Tony you know, doesn't always wear the fucking suit.
His suggestions stupid but your greentexts are just as dumb.
>>69161455
That guy is the Eric Roberts of German actors
>give me some random German to play a Nazi
>I got you
>>69161455
they took his bird
>>69162835
check out Dr Doom over there.
>>69161713
Emails shouldn't even be in movies.
i want to pinch his cheeks and tuck him into bed and make him hot cocoa i don´t care if it´s gay
ITT: We trivialize character motivations with muh
>muh mission report
>>69163437
I thought December 16th 1991 was just some real cool day he wanted desperately to remember
First marvel villain to actually win
>>69162885
fucking kek
>>69161455
Tired of his career playing Bucky in snuff films, He wanted Tony and Steve to hatefuck so he could sell the sextape
>>69163543
He won? I don't remember anyone dying
>but dey not on good terms now
Okay, too bad we all know they come together for Infinity Wars
>>69163601
>status quo of the comic book movie series will return soon
Geez stop the fucking presses. How retarded can you be?
>>69163601
>Okay, too bad we all know they come together for Infinity Wars
Thanos will rekt them before.
>>69163654
>I'm retarded because I recognize a villain didn't win at all.
k.
>>69162859
t. Someone with zero attention span who didn't listen to anything Zemo said
>>69163733
t. moron defends another cinematic 'le elaborate villain scheme' where so much shit has to go perfectly right it becomes ridiculous and comical
>>69163769
Nothing really had to go exactly as planned except for the EMP thing going off at the right time.
Nice copycat villain Marvelfags
>>69163769
>where so much shit has to go perfectly right it becomes ridiculous and comical
Well his suicide attempt didn't.
>>69163769
t. A guy who can't t. properly
>>69163841
Go back to /v/
Then kill yourself.
>>69163813
What was this guy's motivation again?
>>69163813
But Zemo isn't trying to copy the Joker at all.
>>69163813
There was a copycat of Lex in Civil War. It was that dude who was with Tony after his speech trying to sell the self heating hot dog.
>>69163769
>use truck as battering ram
>perfect clear space afterwards for their trucks to drive through
There was simply too much reliance on luck! REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>69161455
He's the hero If his plan succeeded there would have been no more Avengers movies
>>69163859
t. Buttblasted DCuck
>Thanks for saving us repeatedly from impossible threats with minimal collateral damage, Avengers!
>Now sign this controlling agreement because a couple people died
Seriously?
Being a terribly written character with not much motivation and development.
>>69162820
he isn't a villain retard lmao
that was the point of the entire fucking movie holy shit
NORMAL
PEOPLE
ARE
AFFECTED
kek me dek
>>69164035
>a couple
they really couldn't get over Sokovia.
To be fair though they fucking decimated it.
>>69164035
Because dropping the Hulk in Johannesburg was surely necessary.
>>69164035
i mean ultron is entirely the avengers' (really tony's) fault so all the sokovia crap is on them (him)
>talking to your wifes voicemail as if you're having a conversation with her
He was just a sad, sad man.
>>69164064
Nobody but the Avengers actually know Tony made Ultron and it's never brought up.
>>69164081
I hope your wife dies.
Purple mask when?
>>69161455
very cool that a "normal" was able to fool the whole world and the avengers desu
>>69164115
Well I will be sure to plot some elaborate shit to get the killers to fight each other when she does.
Count on it.
>>69161455
IT TOOK ME 2 DAYS TO FIND THEMthat's not even long didn't he see the impossible?
>>69164167
But will you wear comfy sweaters and eat bacon while you do so?
>>69164115
>implying anyone here has a wife
we're all fa/tv/irgins, you imbecile
>ad for adult cosplay at bottom of page
i just realized i've never seen a child cosplayer. so isn't "adult cosplay" a redundancy?
Wait so everything was just so he could get to the tape to ply it for Stark?
>>69164217
>i just realized i've never seen a child cosplayer.
Haven't you heard of Halloween
>>69163873
Basically the same motivation as every other incarnation of Luthor: Inferiority complex.
>>69163886
Leave the Dean alone
>>69164225
He wanted to turn half of the Avengers into fugitives first.
>>69163813
But Zemo actually succeeded
>>69164042
What motivation should he have had?
>>69164344
Well like the Dark Knight's Joker and BvS' Lex, he should have just been evil and quirky because reasons that are unfathomable.
>>69164327
Zemo couldn't have succeeded without Steve, Tony, the UN, T'chakalakaboom and literally everybody else dropping the ball and acting like retards about every single little thing.
And how does the government hope to contain Thor or Scarlet Witch anyway? Thor is a fucking god from another world and that government guy talked about him as if he was a weapon. The fuck dude.
>>69164380
When were they acting like retards?
>>69164380
segue, but how did zemo know stark would show up at the bunker?
Tony literally did nothing wrong
>>69164413
shut up i just know i'm smart like that pic related literally me
>>69164413
what was their motivation for fighting each other
>>69164440
Zemo went to the bunker to kill the winter soldiers. If Ironman didn't show up he'd have done his little reveal after, simple.
>>69164440
Because he called the hotel, that way that woman would find the body, then Tony would find out who Zemo was and realize something was fishy, and then he would go ask Falcon where Steve is.
A lot of assumptions were made
>>69164413
All the time. The government(s) were acting like retards when they thought they could just get Avengers, most of whom can only really be taken on by their fellow peers, to some sort of agreement because they didn't like the exact way they kept saving the world.
Tony was retarded when he once again let his feelings and MUH MOM get the better of him and get all angry despite knowing full well Barnes was not at fault for anything that happened.
Avengers at large were exposed as fools when they were all fooled by one fucking photo of a guy in a prosthetics mask.
Cap's stupidity moment was when he put down that pen.
And what was the UN's plan anyway? Have a psychologist talk to a wanted terrorist? One-on-one? What the fuck?
>>69164475
so he was in cahoots with falcon the entire time?
>>69164470
did he actually kill the winter soldiers? was it ever specified that it was part of his plan? was it ever specified that he could control them?
these answers raise more questions
>>69164503
>The government(s) were acting like retards when they thought they could just get Avengers, most of whom can only really be taken on by their fellow peers, to some sort of agreement because they didn't like the exact way they kept saving the world.
But half the Avengers did agree to it.
>>69164506
>did he actually kill the winter soldiers?
Well they all had bullet wounds in their foreheads.
>>69164506
Yes, he specifically said that he killed them because he didn't want more people like them in the world.
>>69164042
>not much motivation
Are you serious? His whole character was motivation. He was paper-thin and devoid of development, he basically only existed to have his villainous motivations tie into the overarching theme.
It's a bit silly, had the government just killed the winter soldier it would've all fallen apart, however, this could also be seen as his plan succeeding because then Captain America would go ballistic.
Overall all that matters is that he can get them to come to the base, he doesn't even have to show the tape as they would probably just gather all the info they find and Stark's the guy that does it as well.
>>69164516
and that half said that they were fine with it because they knew they could control the governmentsmuh one hand on the wheel
Baron Zemo did it in a Hydra base
WITH A VIDEOTAPE
>>69164578
How long until he runs all of Hydra from his prison cell like Al Capone?
>>69164578
And they put him into the same cage thing as they did Winter Soldier because...? He's just a normal guy. Fuck is he gonna do? Some sort of poetic justice? Lazy screenwriting?
Fuck man, these comic book movies are all shit. You're all shit for paying to see them and I'm shit for falling for the meme.
>>69164545
>>69164519
missed that part or forgot about it, care to answer my other questions?
>>69161455
His family are fucking dead haha what a loser
>>69164637
Obnoxious cunt
>>69161713
because movie
Zemo did nothing wrong.
Stark and Banner should have served scores of manslaughter charges against the deaths caused by Ultron.
The fact they left the city Ultron eviscerated without facing justice or owning up to what they did makes them no better than the criminals they fight.
>>69164732
then how come he didn't do everything exactly the same except for that when captain and tony were coming to the lair to find him THEN he just emails him the video.
that way he doesn't have to be in the hydra hut when they come for him and he actually gets to live
>>69163769Zemo did admit that he knew he could not take on the Avengers himself when other powerful baddies have failed
>>69162820
Look at all these boring-looking villains
>>69164803
>guys save the world
>Y-YOU'RE JUST AS BAD AS THE ONE TRYING TO KILL EVERYONE BECAUSE A COUPLE HUNDRED PEOPLE DIED!
No.
>>69164862
Each and every one of them could be improved by adding a "DAMAGED" tattoo on their foreheads.
>>69163886
You mean the self deaning hot dean
>>69164862
I need more Red Skull. I refuse to believe that nigga is dead.
>>69164870
they created the AI that killed hundreds of people.
They eventually killed him, however they should have owned up and have been taken to account over that.
>>69165017
Why? What use would that have been? They try to do anything to Banner and he Hulks and kills even more people.
>>69165017
At least paid reparations or helped with the repairs.
But after their usual post battle cuddling they left the city (that they indirectly caused to get annihilated) in a smoking ruin with hundreds of deaths...
That's not right.
>>69161455
he mad
>Zemo repeatedly listening to the voicemail of his dead wife
>>69164637
>I have the attention span of a toddler, now spoon feed me.
>>69161455
Captain America and Iron Man killed his wife and kid in Age of Ultron.
Did you even watch the fucking movie?
>>69165116
Yeah but they saved the world, so what's his actual problem?
If he just wanted to make them fight with each other, what was the point of all the siberia shit and the 5 supersoldier? To make Cap look like he's on the right side to the audience?
>>69165165
That his family is dead because of them.
>>69164811
is a movie you idiot, things happen in a cinematic way and watching RDJ pissed as fuck after seeing his father beated to death in the bunker that Bucky and Cap were was more emotionally engaging than Tony watching it with his email at home while browsing porn
>>69165165
Helmet didn't care about the world. He only cared about his wife and kid, and those "superhero" fucks took them away from him.
>>69164862
Loki and Zemo are gold
>>69165173
>>69165203
Oh.
poor guy.
I really liked the way they revealed that it was Bucky that killed Iron Man's parents. Really well done.
>>69165166
it accomplished 2 things for Zemo:
1.- he killed the super soldiers cause he hate super powered people
2.- it was a nice trap to make Tony and Cap kill each other while he fucks off to kill himself
>>69165165
>>69165203
You guys are retarded. The avengers created the AI that became that threat. So what if they dealt with it eventually? Lots of people died directly due to their actions.
>>69164811
>he actually gets to live
how come even a childrens movie is too much for you anon? Zemo was going to off himself anyway
>>69165165
They created Ultron, Ultron killed his family.
They then fled the scene of the crime.
And continued to live their happy quip filled lives.
I know that this is banal, puerile and frankly embarrassing capeshit but if you want to try and demonise Zemo and say "what's his problem" then that, that is his problem.
>>69165165
the whole point of the movie is that people's subjective emotional responses override what is objective or logical, just because the avengers saved the world doesn't mean they're entitled to people being happy with them
it's why tony wanted to kill bucky anyway at the end of the movie, he didn't care about brainwashing or mind control, the dude killed his parents and that was enough for iron man
it's also why it was important for vision to maim rhodes, the whole movie he was being a condescending prick to scarlet witch but when push came to shove, he lost his composure in battle and fucked up in a humiliating and humbling manner
>>69165205
Zemo would have been a better villain if the audience knew his motivation sooner. This could have easily been done with us still thinking that his plan was to activate those other Winter Soldiers.
He also would have been more intimidating if we has seen him do some more physical things. Hard to believe he's an elite sokovian commander when he doesn't do shit the whole movie
>>69165385
>when he doesn't do shit the whole movie
We have many movies to go yet. He will.
>>69165385
He's signed up for more films, so we'll probably see more traditional Zemo eventually.
>>69161455
tony pissed in his cereal
>>69165385
>Zemo would have been a better villain if the audience knew his motivation sooner
true
>do some more physical things
no, it was refreshing seeing a villain using his brain
>>69165255
>to make Tony and Cap kill each other while he fucks off to kill himself
He could just email tony or send the vhs and kill himself in his flat
>>69161713
That would have been really great and would've paced the movie well, especially if it was a long sequence right before a big fight!
What would Zemo have done if Cap just told Tony the truth and he was cool with it and forgave Bucky?
>>69165471
you again? read this:
>69165180
>>69165512
He knew that wouldn't happen though.
Why does Agent 13 have a double chin?
>>69165461
>it was refreshing seeing a villain using his brain
I'm not saying have him go head to head with Cap, but maybe take out some German swat guys on his way out of that facility after he broke Bucky out
>>69165512
he would have failed and the movie wouldn't have had a climatic ending
Anyone else notice that Tony only mentioned his mom when Cap was trying to talk him down?
>he killed my mom
Yeah champ, he also killed your dad, or did you forget already? lmfao
Requesting "not my friend anymore" pic
>>69165591
But Howard was an asshole.
>>69165591
He has daddy issues.
>>69165591
tony resented the shit out of his dad
in that therapy simulation, him telling his dad that he loved him wasn't about his dad, it was about making his mom happy
>>69165604
That hologram memory implied that even though they had difficulties in their relationship, they still loved each other.
>>69165444
I thought all those unconscious guards at the end implied that he managed to escape.
>>69165557
or even better a scene in a plane where he let himself be capture and then crash the plane
it would not have added much to the character we saw him with his uniform thank you got it lets move on, it was a two and a half hour movie already
>>69165625
Tony was still a momma's boy.
>>69165604
He seemed cool in the first Captain America movie.
>>69165640
Maybe that's why Nick Fury is nowhere to be seen. Zemo crashed his helicarrier with no survivors.
>>69165591
I also love my mom more than my father I mean he is cool and I love him but mom is number 1 for me, I'm sure I am not the only one
>>69165652
Having kids changes people
>>69165676
A boy's best friend is his mother.
>>69165512
>Tony he was mind controlled
>Huh, I know mind control is real and have seen it in multiple circumstances, I have never blamed a victim of mind control for their actions, nor will I start now, despite my personal interest in this scenario.
>>69161713
this is bait right? the whole reason he needed the book to talk to bucky was so he could get the location of the bunker so he could retrieve the video
why the fuck would zemo, a former sokovian special ops who was just living family life have a super top secret hydra assassination footage?
if he did have it then it would mean he wouldnt need to find out from bucky the bunkers location
god
fucking shit made me replied
>>69161455
I think I like his character, but I was really hoping he was going to be HYDRA. Maybe avenging his father or grandfather who was killed by Cap in all the raids during The First Avenger?
I felt bad for him when he was about to pull the trigger.
>>69165637
No that was Cap breaking his people out of the raft.
>>69165716
Tony is a hothead the tape which was quite brutal sent him over the edge
HE HAD SUCH A LUST FOR REVENGE
fuck
i really felt bad for him when he was listening to the voicemail
>>69165385
>still thinking that his plan was to activate those other Winter Soldiers.
what? how? we find out that he shot them all then he gives his monologue on the whole plan like literally 2 minutes after
it was much more of a what the fuck when we saw the bullet holes in the glass, everyone thought he was gonna summon them, hell i was sure he was gonna summon them because of all the trailer bullshit images people posted claiming multiple buckys and stuff
>>69165810
That prison break scene could've been cool then, why did they make it offscreen? How did Cap even get into the middle of the ocean and break everyone out without his shield?
Zemo was Lex done right
>>69165637
Nah, that was the Reef(?) and that was Steve rescuing the rest of the avengers.
Cucked
>>69165815
At least it wasn't revealed he was behind everything to ever happen in the MCU.
>>69165839
with help from the king of Wakanda
>tfw the next few films we about the avengers getting back together to fight Thanos
>>69165877
Wakanda has a bunch of Vibranium right? Could Cap get a new shield there?
>>69165818
Introduce the dead wife and kid earlier in the movie without knowing what his plan is, and then let everything else unfold as it did
>>69165876
You're thinking of Spectre, pham.
>>69161455
>>69161706
At least he wasn't wearing the outfit he wore in his embarassing first comic appearance (it ended with him dying by falling into a vat of hot glue, he wasn't brought back until over 100 issues later)
>>69165897
>Doctor Strange is about him becoming a badass magician
>Homecoming is about Spider-Man
>Ragnarok is about Thor and Hulk bromance and a cosmic conflict
>GotG2 is about Starlord's dad?
I guess Black Panther could be about the Avengers.
>>69165900
They have ALL the vibranium, and yes he could.
>>69165925
Skull Face's speech included letting you know he was ALWAYS THERE, SINCE THE BEGINNING.
>>69165927
>I thought he was one of yours
BvS-tier quip.
>>69164301
Wrong.
Luthor's motivation is that he wants to take over the world, and Superman stands in his way. That's what this movie failed to grasp, there Luthor just wanted to kill Superman and nothing else.
>>69165900
yea but I think Cap is not using his shield out of guilt over Tony's dad "my father made that you dont deserve it"
RDJ really killed that last scene, no quips just serious menacing hurtful deliver
>>69165959
Why can't Batman beat up Lex Luthor instead of Superman?
>>69165985
Because it's not his turf. Also Wayne and Luthor are like, business partners.
>>69164056
I'm pretty sure there were more people in my graduating glass than were killed by the Avenger's protecting the world.
>>69165897
We're not going to see the Avengers make up until Infinity War. That's why it's two parts.
Part One is Avengers on Earth getting back together while all the cosmic shit is going on. Part Two is Thanos coming to Earth. We're also going to have Ant-Man 2 and Captain Marvel in between
Was the reason Thor wasn't in the film because if he saw Thor then they'd inevitably have to race?
Please confirm
>>69166008
But Batman stole his kryptonite and shit. Dunno about comics but I'm sure they've met there too.
>>69162835
It worked for Wonder Woman and her super team building recon
>>69161455
>quick put a german in for the german market
works everytime
>>69166029
Thor is too strong. It'd also make the Accords a joke, it's not like the UN can do anything about an alien.
>>69166053
That scene sure is well loved.
>>69166029
Thor's busy with Ragnarok. And he doesn't care about Earth politics.
Did Spider-Man even technically register if he's with Iron Man?
>>69166057
Zemo is German in the comics, nice try
>>69165874
>"The living aren't done with you yet."
>Next movie Zemo escapes from prison, forms the Masters of Evil and kills dozens of people
>"I have made a terrible mistake"
>>69164862
Switch Ben Kingsley for Guy Pierce with no shirt w/dragon tattoo. Add Zemo on the right and a faint picture of Thanos in the background.
>>69166148
Royalty don't make mistakes.
>>69164862
They could have saved Jeff Bridges for later movies. Tony takes him to space where he freezes completly and just leaves him there, thinking that he's dead. Few thousand years later alien civilisation picks him up and sends him back in time.
>>69165249
I still love to know where the fuck that accident happened when Bucky forced them off the road.
Convenient as fuck there was a camera there.
Also...can we take a moment to question the logic of waking up and programming a master assassin and killer to incapacitate two elderly people on a back road of who-the-fuck-knows-where and grab a briefcase? Seems there's far more efficient manner to handle this.
Like anybody else.
It's like sending Tiger Woods to win a miniature golf game. But if Tiger Woods had the off chance potential to rip your face off and cram it down your bloody throat.
>>69166191
the starks were deep into shield
you don't send a rookie to take out high-level members of an international spy organization and steal their super-soldier serum
And at this range, I'm a real Fredrick Zoller.
>>69161455
Germans don't need a reason to do evil shit.
>>69163886
DEAN DEAN DEAN WE HAVE A WIENER!
>>69165716
It's one thing for somebody to say "Bucky killed your parents" It's another thing to watch a tape of it after just coming down from beating the shit out of your friend and his husband. Plus part of Tony's path in the movie was him making hotheaded decisions/remarks and the guilt weighing on him.
>>69165385
Like what? What would be the point of him needing to do physical shit?
>Durr only villain if punch stuff
>young tony
No one else felt weird seeing that. Shit was weird.
>>69163437
>muh daddy issues
>>69165904
He was constantly listening to that audio recording of his wife, she said "I love you" and mentioned his kid, and they mentioned he was part of a Sokovian Spec Ops squad. You could've connected the dots.
>>69165017
>they created the AI that killed hundreds of people.
No, Tony Stark and Bruce Banner did that. None of the Avengers even knew about it but all worked as hard as they possibly could to fix it
>>69164470
Why did he kill the winter soldiers btw?
>>69164862
who are the 1,6,7
>have crossbones do nothing and die 5 mins in
Fantastic, handled that villain well.
>>69169908
Having him kick he living shit out of Romanov was enough
>>69165772
Yeah and people forget Black Widow has dumped all Hydra database to public and the video or the mission report isn't one of them,
people say this movie is nothing but quipkino, yet they cant even comprehend the most simple plot when they see it right in front of them.
>>69167985
He doesn't need them. He was planning to kill himself after he reveal the video.
>>69164862
>we'll never see The Dude in a mechsuit ever again
>>69170562
Because they literally go into the movie already hating it
>can't wait to get on /tv/ to say all the shit things about this movie
They probably fucking sit there ticking off a list of minute things that annoy them so they can shitpost and pay no attention to the simple plots
At least that's my guess. Or people really are that fucking retarded
>>69161455
He had a pretty good motive on why he was doing those things. What would do for your family if you couldn't avenge them?
>>69161713
>Zemo has been e-mailing Tony all along
>Tony never responds
>tries posing as someone else to fool Tony
>"Hi, I am a prince from Wakanda, click this to learn more!"
>everything just ends up in the spam folder
>Zemo is all "Fine, I'll do it myself"
>Zemo is Thanos, yfw
>>69162820
Why are they all white males, what are they trying to say?
>>69169079
1.- the bad guy in ironman 1
6.- bad guy from iron man 3, the mandarin
7.- no idea
>>69173788
7 - Malekith, Thor Dark World
>>69170662
/tv/ in a nutshell
When did Disney get so good at making old actors look young and why didn't they do it for tron
>>69174641
it's been 6 years since tron: legacy
they've just gotten better at it
