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>>69135265
>it's a theon gets his cock back season
Reminder that Stannis IS a bad guy
GURM HATES religious zealots and always makes them the antagonists in his works
LOOK INTO THE FLAMES
AZOR AHAI
CONFIRMED
>>69137199
Azor Ahai does NOT exist
No prophecy exists. GURM is a full-blown fedra tipping atheist and you think any religion is going to be correct?
>>69137137
Stannis isn't a religious zealot in the books.
>>69137137
GURM said Stannis is an alright guy though, just an uninspiring leader.
Don't mistake widespread disappointment at D&D bungling Stannis' character for endorsement of his right to rule. There are plenty of people that don't think Stannis would be the best king but who also would have much preferred him to remain the greyer, more nuanced character he was in the novels rather than being le ebul burn my own daughter man.
>>69137482
>Don't mistake widespread disappointment at D&D bungling Stannis' character for endorsement of his right to rule.
I'm not, I'm talking about his role and actions in Asoiaf.
GURM HATES religion. That is a fact.
R'hllor is, by far, the worst religion (burning people, everything else is 'the great other' etc). That is a fact.
Stannis is the standard bearer of R'hllor in the books. That is a fact.
So it stands to reason that Stannis is the face of everything GURM hates. So even if GURM publicly says that Stannis is an alright guy, Stannis is nonetheless an antagonist.
>>69137233
Literally all semi-intelligent people are "fedora tipping atheists," that doesn't mean their fantasy book with dragons doesn't have magic. Inbred trash.
>>69137709
You claim you are "semi-intelligent", yet you appear to be illiterate because at no point did I suggest there is no magic.
Magic=/=prophecy
Prophecy is generally the product of religion or religious figures. In the case of Azor Ahai it is a myth of the R'hllor religion and each religion seems to have an equivalent (ptwp, stallion that mounts the world etc).
What I'm saying is, given who GURM is and what his beliefs are, all the prophecies will likely be bullshit.
This is something the show (inb4 >LE FUGG LE D&D XDDD) is starting to explore quite well which they did with the Jaime/Cersei scene last episode.
>>69137691
He's one red priests believed AA, that doesn't mean he personally believes it
>>69137926
Doesn't matter. He is literally the leader of it.
>>69137137
Stannis was an atheist
Let's look back on all the mature men. Since Roose is gone, it's not looking good for them. Will there be any left? Or will Westeros burn due to the fact women can't rule.
>inb4 Varys isn't a Mature men
Haven't gone around to fixing this
>>69137948
But he literally isn't?
He's not like the Pope of R'hllor, he just is willing to tolerate it for the power it offers
>>69138559
kek
You're right. He isn't their pope, he is their Jesus. He is LITERALLY the self-proclaimed reincarnation of Azor Ahai. He uses it as grounds to burn people alive. He goes along with all that Lightbringer bullshit.
KEK
>>69138530
Huh, who is 3rd row from top, far left?
>>69138703
Some coward who ran as his family was being butchered.
>>69136566
Those swings are ridic overexaggerated, why mix realistic sword techniques with cartoonish animation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-B4AwgArwA#6m [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zueF4Mu2uM [Embed]
>>69138530
>Or will Westeros burn due to the fact women can't rule
That's the takeaway from GoT.
>>69138530
Randyll and Euron will go strong this season. Plus McShane's character. Also Thoros is confirmed to return.
Season 6 will be a good season for /mm/.
>>69139574
>Euron
>mature man
He is like 32 or something.
>this creature is considered extremely attractive in the United Kaliphate
>>69138530
>no Nedd
>no Based Bobby B
>no Doran
>>69137691
>So it stands to reason that Stannis is the face of everything GURM hates. So even if GURM publicly says that Stannis is an alright guy, Stannis is nonetheless an antagonist.
If you think GRRM writes this black and white I don't know what to say
>>69138530
>muh mature men
cancer
>>69138739
He was taking a piss m8. Besides Radmure is alive
>>69140383
Fuck off pedo
Ending of episode 3:
>Jon is brooding in his chamber at castle black
>Melisandre enters, he ignores her
>After a while Melly makes an attempt to say something.
>Jon turns around
>"Egg... I dreamed I was old."
>fade to black
>>69137137
>religious zealots
>book Stannis
fucking showplebs, I swear
>>69140409
I know. I was trying to trigger blackfishfags.
>>69140413
Are those really the only two alternatives? Either you love mature men or are a pedo?
Don't like how they brought back John but that last ep was great overall man. I guess they're killing off way too many people though, could have gotten more mileage out of Roose imo. Really hope the mythical Ironbro/Kingsmoot shit is done halfway interestingly.
Dany haters are willing to go that extra mile into having disregard for what is both in the books and the show and very evident. Dany resists fire on several occasions even during the show. That DOES NOT mean she is 100% immune to it, but she is the only character known to have this power, even if occasionally. You want to write her off as some nobody, but she isn't nobody.
As for her not being Targaryen, I think this is also bullshit. I don't even like her that much if you want to call me danyfag and be immature about this, but its pretty clear that the whole point of Daenerys is that she is the ONLY (known) Targaryen through who we get to know them and about them. Her entire story fits to be Targaryen, details of her birth are known throughout the realm and just bunch of stuff.
>tfw Gerold Hightower is probably cut
Daenarys ain't real. She is no queen of mine and is probably a Dayne. :DDD peace and Aegon OK not Dany.
>We are suppose to believe that the Umbers were holding Rickon this entire time and waited until Roose is dead to hand him over to Rickon
Great writing D&D. The North sure does remember doesn't it?
>>69140426
>GoT turns into Lost
oh, okay.
>>69140496
yah because aegon is not fake at all
>>69140530
I just like saying he is because it triggers people desu
>>69137691
only Melisandre of all known red priests burns people.
>>69140495
is it the same guy ?
>Include a flashback of Dany putting a collar on the dragon
>Show Tyrion removing an obviously completely different and larger collar
Can this show get anything right?
>>69140496
>Aegon
>such a shit-tier character hes the only major plotline dropped completely from the show
lmaoing @ your taste
>>69138435
this anon is a christian and will take that as offense as well hehe
>>69137137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c-ZxuWhhCw
>>69138530
>inb4 Varys isn't a Mature men
BECAUSE HE HAS NO COCK LOL!
>>69137401
>>69140446
neither is he in the show, recognizing melisandre's magic as obviously useful doesn't make him a religious zealot
burning shireen is rather questionable, though he did it for the spell, not for rhllor
>>69140473
>danyfag
The points you mentioned are not the reason people don't like dany
I don't like her because shes is more or less a dumb teenager given too much power and other annoying traits
>>69140587
The collers pissed me off too. they were so easy to take off, they were bound to come off on their own at some point
>>69137233
we can only hope. if all these silly prophecies turn out to be true, it will make the whole saga harry potter -level
>>69140114
hurr durr quasimodo jpg hurr
this isn't imgur or reddit, what do you gain from it? No one is upvoting you.
KIT HARINGTON IS GAY - UPVOTE ME -.-
attention whore
>>69140626
Kek
>>69140626
well he is a mermaid
>>69140458
yes
>>69140652
He wants the (You)s
>>69140596
Have they confirmed he's completely cut or is there a chance they'll just do him in a later season like they're doing the Greyjoy brothers?
>>69140504
Forgot about Kingsmoot. AFFC truly is the GOAT book
>>69140504
Yea I thought so, didn't seem to make sense in the context
>>69140652
>inbred briton detected
>>69138695
>He doesn't realise that most priests think Daenaerys is their Jesus
>>69140473
How do you explain discrepancies such as Daenerys believing she was raised near a lemon tree with green fields and sunshine - in Braavos, described by both Sa and Arya as cold, wet, misty and overcast, with throwaway characters also mentioning that citrus fruit do not grow there/
Before you go for the 'GRRM inconsistency' stuff, he actually acknowledged that there was something to that in an email some fan sent him.
About the fire thing - I'm not sure why you're so hung up on this. Firstly the show means nothing, if we take the show for canon explanation of book events then Pod has a 14 incher, Brienne is invincible, Dany is fat and Mance is dead among other massive problems. The show does the 'immune to fire' thing because it looks cool and normies understand that she's special.
GRRM has specifically addressed this and said that Dany is not immune to fire, she just is a bit better at dealing with heat than most people. This is unsurprising given that she was clearly raised in a hot climate. GRRM himself likened it to how Starks are good at toughing it out through cold.
>Details of her birth are known throughout the realm
What, like Jon's? Who is widely believed to be Ned's kid which is clearly fucking bullshit The realm knows shit all, this is in the days before good communication. There is an extreme likelihood that Dany either has a past that is not correct or she is not who she thinks she is.
Before you get angry again and start calling me names, remember I am just theorizing about novels, not raping your waifu.
>>69140568
what video game
Honestly? If I ever teleported to asoiaf universe I would devote all my life to hunting down blackfyre fucking shits. Holy fuck, I hate them so much. Blackfyre fucking shits are a disease, literally a fucking disease. They have no right to breathe air.
>>69140465
I hope so too anon
>>69140754
t.Maekar
>>69140708
>[citation needed]
>>69138739
t. Lannister fucking shit
>>69140778
>>69140788
Worst, unfunniest """"meme"""" ever on /got/
http://www.strawpoll.me/10135555
http://www.strawpoll.me/10135555
http://www.strawpoll.me/10135555
>>69140788
>>69140754
Started reading the books earlier today, when do these fabled "blackfyre fucking shits" appear?
How do we kill the women?I feellike every time a woman dies there is gonna be an outrage.
>>69140816
She'll be fine
>>69140708
Its possible there is something fishy about danys past. but her not being targ is bit of a streach. how do you even explain her eyes and hair?
>>69140816
She'll kill herself eventually.
post what you are most excited for:
illyn payne's tongue getting revived
sansa becoming queen bitch in charge
daenerys, tyrion, and varys riding each dragon into king's landing
jaime failing to protect the king again
ramsay bolton getting killed
littlefinger getting fucked in the ass by varys
asha dying to euron
>>69140858
There are a bunch of people in Essos who have the eyes and hair, the whore Jorah was fucking when Tyrion stumbled in on him for example.
Dany is actually Ashara's daughter with Aerys
>tfw Qyburn is cucking Varys by crossbowing Kevan
>>69140816
She'll be killed by Tommen, after Qyburn brings him back wrong.
>>69137137
>showfag confirmed
>>69140843
like how there was outrage when cat,lysa,foreign girl, funny whore, fat walda, myranda etc died?
>>69140865
Euron winning the kingsmoot over muh girl power and muh peace
>>69140708
t. Preston Jacobs
>>69140886
A lot of the Daynes have silver hair and purple eyes as well.
>>69140858
Daynes are known to have the purple eyes and the hair
>>69140754
true /LOYALIST/ anon
>>69140925
Weirdly, there was outrage when Ros died. It seems so random.
>>69140865
>no theon getting volcano cock
>>69140833
They are mentioned alot in the Dunk and Egg novels
The best time to read them is after ASOS becauses reasons
>>69140833
Never, you have to finish the book and start reading the side material, showfag.
>>69140888
>trips of truth
>>69140833
They're not even in the books, they're a part of the backstory
That should tell you everything on how pathetic and autistic these people forcing it are
>I am Dusk and Dawn, the beginning and the end, within both hands i carry the will of my prince.
i can't belive D&D wrote this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pb_u5hU25w
great banetr
>>69140931
That anon is right you know
>>69140972
>>69140969
Well fug, I thought I was gonna catch up on some of these memes I don't understand yet.
>>69140708
>Mance is dead among other massive problems
Mance dying for his beliefs is a much better end than him becoming a gay nard spy in winterfell
Honestly besides a few issues like the character assassination of Stannis and the dorne plot the show is better paced and flows better than the clusterfuck that is feast and dance
>>69140858
Many have purple eyes and light hair. House Celtigar all have this trait, as do some Daynes (Darkstar), some Velaryons like Aurane Waters, and many people in Lys.
>>69140792
For Braavos, my sources are A Feast For Crows, The World of Ice and Fire, and the Winds of Winter Arya chapter, 'Mercy.'
For GRRM on lemon trees in Braavos, see this image: http://i.imgur.com/EXN26tk.png
For Daenerys immune to fire, see this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgaI2duatzk
>>69140990
DABID
4 SWORDS DABID
>>69140990
Where the fuck did that come from
Please tell me D&D didn't insert their fanfiction even into the Tower of Joy
>>69140888
this isn't really too far off.
is there a passage that could disprove this?
>>69141036
Fuck off faggot. Mance's storyline isn't over yet.
Reminder that this board is /tv/ and as such this is a place to discuss the TV show, not whine about the books. Whining about books makes you a bed-wetter.
Examples of bed-wetting behaviour -
Mentioning "Darkstar" (whatever that is)
Referring to the White Walkers as "Others"
Crying about some goofy zombie Cat Stark story being removed
Calling the Three Eyed Raven "Bloodraven" like a complete oaf
Not realising that saying "frogfu" is as beta as it gets
Whining about 104 year old Barristan Selmy being outnumbered and killed
Bringing up Reddit in any context
Using terms like "bookfag", "showpleb", "normies" or any cringeworthy variant
Please stick to discussing all the good and bad aspects of the TV show only. No bed-wetting.
>>69140990
you must be kidding right
no way dayne says that
>>69140972
>>69141031
In the books, Illyrio's bastard son descended from the female line of the Blackfyres is posing as Aegon VI, son of Rhaegar and is already campaigning in westeros
Its a useless subplot though, the show is better served by cutting him
>>69140990
he looks cross eyed tb h
>I'm actually hyped to see The Bloody Hand in the show
>>69141089
oh come on, someone was born in storm in dragonstone. who is that kid then? dont say jon
>>69140972
>getting this mad over a meme
>>69140990
>not aryan
>>69140708
Oh man, I didn't call you names. Maybe that was somebody else. I welcome all theories if they're backed by some proof. This theory is, well...there MIGHT be something to it. I forgot those prophecies and even wonder should we take them into account, but for the lack of concrete proof, I must side with things as they currently are. And hell, I want Dany to be Targaryen. Enough of disappointing twists to this show. Why do I want it? Her entire personality and life are based around the fact that she isn't nobody, that she isn't just some poor orphan raped girl molested by her brother, but the princess of a foreign realm and somebody who is making difference everywhere she goes. Same as Jon's personality is based around the fact that he IS almost nobody. Always so close to nobility, raised as noble, but not QUITE the noble, always treated like inferior etc etc.
Actually, now that I mention this, it would kinda fit if Jon discovered that he is somebody who was always nobody and Daenerys discovers that she is nobody who became somebody. Pure pottery. Third option: they're twins.
>>69140990
that doesnt sound too bad. D&D could never write that
>>69140949
>not being outraged that we lost the lustiest slut in westeros
anon, it's like you don't want sexual release
>>69141101
Be quiet. wikifag.
>>69140888
Rhaegar is the father, also nice trips.
>>69140931
Not him but I would love to debate him. His evidence for his theories is quite weak but I love his videos for the entertainment and his knowledge of the books is extensive.
>>69140941
>>69140937
Darkstar's description alone reads like he's Daenarys Rule 63. It's a little ridiculous. Rumours also state that Ashara lost a child then killed herself. The body however was never found. How likely is it that she disappeared with a Targ/Dayne bastard given that she knew Targs were being massacred in KL? Quite likely IMO. It helps to explain why the Daynes love Ned too - he let them get away with it though he found out on his visit to Starfall.
>>69140557
>only Melisandre of all known red priests burns people.
Moqorro also has problem sacrificing people to R'hllor.
Hold on niggers.
The only mildly thing about Arya is her "list" and her desire to kill Cersei - everyone else on her list is either dead or literally meme.
If Jaime does indeed kill Cersei - it will make Arya's existence COMPLETELY pointless.
Seriously she would have NO VALUE AT ALL.
>>69141094
Reminder that this general is /got/ and as such this is a place to discuss the disparities in the TV show, not whine about "bookfags" boogeyman. Whining about bookfags makes you a piss-drinker.
Examples of piss-drinking behaviour -
Calling Asha "Yara"
Referring to the Others as "White Walkers"
Constantly forgetting characters
Not understanding the negative impact of the storylines that have been cut
Thinking that the character butchering or white washing is acceptable
Finding quips funny
Accepting the cringeworthy and unbelievable deaths of seasoned warriors like Barristan Selmy or Areo Hotah
Using terms like "bookfag", "bed-wetter" or any cringeworthy variant
Please stick to discussing all the good and bad aspects of the saga. No piss-drinking.
>>69140990
Please tell me this isnt what he says
They cant do this to my nigga Arthur
>>69141161
> has NO problem
>>69141151
She was a slut, it was disgusting, not hot.
>>69141166
>Seriously she would have NO VALUE AT ALL.
and she has value now? No, quasimodo is pointless.
>>69141036
Mance is ambitious and cunning. Especially the second, a lot of people credit him for it.
I don't understand why you think it's weird for Mance to not want to burn to death through trickery (killing a cunt in the process). There's a strong possibility the pink letter is his, which means he may still be scheming something.
bookfags >>>>> showplebs >>>>> wikifags
Prove me wrong.
>>69141153
>anyone who doesnt suck george's cock and thinks every useless subplot in the books is amazing is a wikifag!
Books 4 and 5 are shit, with the occasional good chapter. Deal.
>>69141197
But at least you could say "maybe it's building up to something".
If anyone but Arya kills Cersei - her whole arc would have been hours of wasted time.
>>69141136
Yeah there was another guy in the last threads who got really pissed at me just for voicing a theory.
I like your idea that Jon is someone while Dany is not, thereby inverting both their plotlines at once. I also think it is somewhat possible that they're twins, but I'm not sure how that would all work out logistically. It would have to involve Ned giving Daenerys to the Daynes while he took Jon back to winterfell, I suppose.
>>69141157
Explains why Ned wants to protect Dany, he still gots the hots for Ashara.
>>69141219
Jaime is going to kill Cersei, its already been foretold that she would be slain by her younger brother
>>69140816
Anyone else genuinely hope she survives? She's become so oddly likable, and not because of the walk of shame either, and was never outright hateable to begin with imo. Maybe it's because I just get behind survivors instead of generic "good people" in this show. Faith Militant shits are the worst and I hope they get everything that's coming to them.
>>69141166
Arya will be sent to kill Dany
Πληβείοι, έξω από το /got/
>>69141246
It would also help to explain why Barristan literally says that Dany reminds him strongly of Ashara and has her eyes. That is such a clear hint to me from the author that it immediately threw suspicion on Dany's past for me when I read Dance on release day.
>>69141211
>2016
>calling yourself a "bookfag"
>>69141215
You haven't even read them.
>>69141261
Because she has only one younger brother you pleb.
She won't be killed by any of her brothers or by strangulation. It is the paranoia from believing in this shit that kills her, if at all.
PLUS it is valonquar, it could be anything. Qyburn tells her the meaning of it and he might be lying. And it is also a machine, not just a word for brother.
Jesus Christ, do people even read and understand the letters or are you just liking the colour of the fucking ink???
>>69141246
Ned doesnt like killing kids. He is still mad at tywin for killing the Aerys's children
Highgarden
>>69141314
>implying
I love how youre so afraid of le wikifag boogeyman that anyone who thinks theyre shit (not an uncommon opinion) is automatically a wikifag
>>69141311
I have only watched the show, I just appreciate bookfags' knowledge
I'm not nerdy enough to read books lol
>>69141325
She thinks its tyrion and operates on that assumption but Jaime is technically her younger brother since hes the younger twin
Dummy
>>69141296
Ποιους λες πληβειους;Απο που εισαι
>>69141343
I'd get high with her in the garden
>>69141353
Sure thing mememan.
/r/'ing the Gerold Dayne's nihilistic sense of humor picture
>>69140624
GRRM's opinion is irrelevant because the TV series is canon. That fat fuck will croak before he finishes the books so the only definitive ending we'll get is Benioff & Weiss' vision.
>>69141301
Anybody that has Valyrian blood has the eyes, but I see what you are saying.
But then Jorah said she reminds him of his wife.
>>69141430
>hey little bird wanna do a experiment?
>>69141445
>this is what memers actually believe
>>69141343
Tyrells have become oddly interesting to me. Just their general backstory. I wish we saw more of the Reach. Like I can't believe we see more of the fucking Riverlands more than the Reach though I guess Reach still get more attention than most of Essos or the fucking Westerlands.
>>69141445
>because the TV series is canon.
>this is what show plebs actually believe
Nah, the show is a cliffs notes version of the story. Now its just pure TV fanfiction.
>>69141445
they are 2 different canons you faggot
one of them is more relevant to me than the other
>>69140811
Looks like we have a true faggot boys. He cares about memes
>>69141470
>he actually thinks GRRM will finish the books
For better or worse the show is the ending we're going to get.
I want Viserys back.
Dany suck cocks.
>>69141211
dubs of truth
Wikifags should collectively neck themselves for trying so desperately to fit in with the book readers when their knowledge is fragmented as fuck. This is what makes them worse than showfags
>>69141524
But its already too different to be thae same thing. Also D&D know GRRMs original plot so they can always tell us if he dies.
>>69141470
I'm being realistic. GRRM is in his late 60's, is obese, and keeps eating unhealthy food. He keeps going to conventions instead of buckling down and finishing his work.
At this rate, we might get Book 6 within 5 years, but there won't be a Book 7 or more Dunk & Egg installments because GRRM will have a massive heart attack or stroke. I wouldn't be saying this if he was a man in good health and maintains a balanced diet and fitness.
>>69141558
We'll be lucky to get book 6. The show is also going to be rushed to completion next year because D&D want out and HBO wants them to make it and retain control.
>>69141509
>Reach still get more attention than most of Essos
Nope, they dropped the Vale, the Reach, the Riverlands, Casterly rock and pretty much everything In Westeros that isn't Winterfell/the Wall, Pyke and KL
>>69141558
I like how you still think that this series can be tied up in 2 more books.
>>69141557
>But its already too different to be thae same thing
Some things are getting shifted around but youre a fool if you think the endings will be drastically different
They cut the bullshit with Harry the heir but Sansa and LF's plot still leads to the Knights of the Vale freeing the North
>>69141527
This
>>69141394
Όσους έχουν τον Τζόν Σνόου για χασμπάντο.Είμαι ο Τσόρα Μορμόντης, από το νησί των αρkουδέϊδων
>>69141607
I don't, but that's what GRRM thinks.
>>69141595
This is what happens when you sell the rights to your series BEFORE it's finished. If anything, ASOIAF is a case study of what NOT to do as a writer.
>>69140897
Nah, the little birds will be offing Qyburn. Kevan will probably die off screen or something. The stabbing scene is clearly happening in Qyburn's lab.
>>69141609
If you only care about the ending then yeah the show might be enough
>>69141641
>This is what happens when you sell the rights to your series BEFORE it's finished. If anything, ASOIAF is a case study of what NOT to do as a writer.
He sold the rights to HBO in like 2008. He easily could have finished the series if he had any kind of respectable work ethic.
post GOAT fanart
>>69141236
Imo Dany needed to get out of the realm asap. I can definitely see it happening that Daenerys is also Rhaegar's daughter, but her not being somehow tied to Targs is obviously a stretch. And her being Blackfyre is a stretch as well. There is SOMETHING to it and it somehow connects Dorne with her. Maybe Ashara killed herself because Daenerys was taken from her later. If she's not her daughter, why would she care? Why kill herself? Also, Ned. He acts as if he at least saw Daenerys, perhaps even protected her in some way. Carried her to Ashara?
I have this vague feeling that Daenerys could be connected to Starks by blood even, given the visions and all. But its all just too much to guess. Problems with them being twins and these theories in general:
1) Why is Dawn hidden in Winterfell or given to Ned? (come on, it must be Dawn) a) even if it is Dawn, then Jon is Dayne's b) we don't want him to be Dayne's c) even if he was Dayne's, they have other male heirs preceding Jon's claim
2) Why Ashara ded?
3) How can Dany be Rhaegar + Ashara if they weren't involved?
4) If Ned saw the twins, how did he know Daeenrys as a baby will look like pure Targ while Jon wont? Eye color?
5) What happened when Ned went unconscious, stolen baby? By whom? Why?
Why is he such a faggot hack?
Been travelling for a few days, so glad I didn't let any fucker spoil that for me
>>69141283
She was so hot. Definitely my gotfu
>The Winds of Winter is the novelization of season 6 of the hit tv show Game of Thrones
>>69141679
I read the books back in 2008 when I graduated HS. I was lucky that I wasn't those poor bastards who had to wait 5 years for Feast and then 6 years for Dance.
What the fuck was he doing in-between 2000 and 2005? The same for 2005 and 2011?
>>69140990
Reminder: There are only two kingsguard in that scene, Dayne is waiting inside the tower
>>69141685
In any case, whatever treasure is hidden in Winterfell crypt, we can strongly guess two things. 1) It waits for Jon to find it. That's why he's afraid of entering the crypt and has visions about it. 2) It could be Lightbringer. (= final clarification of who he is and all that)
>>69140858
> Its possible there is something fishy about danys past. but her not being targ is bit of a streach. how do you even explain her eyes and hair?
I’ll add Daenerys hatching the dragon eggs (though that could be magic anybody could be a part of) and controlling the dragons (though not so much later and this again, may be something anybody could do if they had dragons since they were babies) suggests she is who we think she is.
But it is also possible that R+L=Daenerys, or that Daenerys is the child of Eddard Stark and Ashara Dayne.
Or maybe Daenerys is who we and she think she is, and was just hidden in Dorne for a time (perhaps under the care of Ashara Dayne, resulting in her suicide after Baby Daenerys is taken away, or maybe why she possibly became Septa Lemore)
I could see Willem Darry, who was an older man, leaving Daenerys in Dorne (Targaryen loyalists) as he would have a hard time careing for a little baby, whereas caring for young Viserys wouldn’t be an issue.
>>69141723
Feast and Dance were supposed to be one book
>>69141596
I mean we've had some scenes in the Reach and that's more than we'll get from the Westerlands or places like Ashai. And we got plenty of stuff set in the Riverlands in previous seasons already.
>>69141702
all fantasy writers are
>>69137137
Good thing Stannis is not one of those ;^)
>>69141737
But thats wrong m8
>>69141036
>>69141204
Like the fact that this wasn't the first time he dodged death by glamoring magic? Remember, he is Rhaegar
will the gift being offered to ramsay be, sansa, theon orrickon?
>>69141768
Which is understandable, but it took him 6 years to complete the 2nd half of a book?
>>69137691
>So it stands to reason
No it doesn't. You are jumping to conclusions here.
>>69141325
>Because she has only one younger brother you pleb.
Both Tyrion and Jaime are younger then Cersei, it's mentioned that when they were born, Cersei was first with Jaime holding her ankle.
>>69141825
I don't know what that is but it looks hacky
>>69141795
Stannis burned his brother-in-law because of his adherence to the Faith.
>>69141685
1) we have no idea where Dawn is, it could be in the crypts or it could be at Starfall. Can't answer, it's literally never referred to.
2) Ashara might not be dead. They never found her body and Quaithe, who notably wears a mask, is very interested in Daenerys. Quaithe is also associated with stars quite often, and stars are Dayne's symbol (starfall)
3) Yeah the twins idea breaks my previous theory about Rhaegar + Ashara. The two are pretty much incompatible so it's one or the other and overall I'd pick R + A = D.
4) Yeah no fucking clue. This is true of R + L = J also, it's odd that Ned would have been confident that Jon would look like him and Lyanna rather than taking on a more Targ appearence, which was also extremely uncommon in the North. I find it a bit of a flaw in the R + L = J theory. But we will see in like a few days.
5) No clue. Could just be trauma and selective memory.
>>69141817
theon or rickon, more likely theon
>>69141723
Feast and dance were supposed to be one book, and he wrote half of feast with a 5 year timeskip then decided the timeskip was unnecessary so he rewrote the whole thing
After dance he was content with just cashing his royalty checks and making convention appearances so he stopped writing
>step aside rhaegar targareyn, brother to the khaleesi who kidnappa lyanna, my sister who is a good horse rider. Robert baratheon, the king has usurped the iron throne from the mad king with the help of Tywin Lannister.
>>69141826
It's fucking hard trying to create a cohesive and good story with so many characters
>>69141861
>show propaganda
>>69140754
>>69140778
>>69140788
>>69140948
This made me kek
>>69141826
Yeah because he was trying to figure out how to get everything in place for the Meeren storyline, also the Battles of Meeren and Winterfell were supposed to be in Dance but his editors pushed it back into TWOW
Daenerys must be Rhaegar's, but it would be even better if she was Lyanna's too. That would unite her with Jon in terms of military alliance.
I just can't wrap my head around how is this possible. All I know is that Ned fought ferociously to save Dany's life while in King's Landing and for unknown reasons decided to stay despite being in danger, when the plot to kill Daenerys was set to motion. I mean, he literally resigned as the Hand because of this Robert's decision.
Hodor is the name of Lyanna's horse
Wylis used to warg into Lyanna's horse
Wylis was warging as Hodor when Hodor got slain
Wylis became Hodor
>>69141826
Why he took that long is a novel in itself
One reason is he was planing a 5 year gap but gave up on it so he head to rewrite alot of chapters
The other is the meereenese knot, just search and you will find it
>>69141885
This picture never fails to make me laugh
>>69141854
It's not, it's a deconstruction of the fantasy genre.he is leper man, he raped the girl and save the lands
00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,463
The King's going to be there
Everybody is going, Father
Take me aswell
00:01:34,073 --> 00:01:39,562
Why is Ned going?
This is unfair.
00:01:43,523 --> 00:01:47,579
Hush now, Benjen
Ned is of age.
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But Lyanna isn't
00:02:07,218 --> 00:02:11,231
You can't joust, Ben
You're too little
00:02:15,017 --> 00:02:21,112
Shut it, macumber!
Lyanna just wants to see the prince is all
00:02:23,866 --> 00:02:28,769
Aye, I want to see if he's as dashing as they say
-Thats enough, Lyanna
They say the prince loved singing
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poor robert
-as it would be if i were a fair maiden
-Lya!
00:02:38,673 --> 00:02:42,124
Besides, tourneys bore me
-Lyanna!
00:02:44,126 --> 00:02:47,151
Enough of this!
Wylis, take these to the stables
Friday anons
>>69141094
Piss drinker
>>69141169
saved
>>69141750
Hot new theory off the presses: the man Daenerys knew of as Willem Darry is Arthur Dayne. He was wounded by a poisoned knife/arrow from Howland - it fucked up his nerves and gave him a slow death by poison which is why Dany remembers him smelling funny and being mostly bedridden.
Also explains the very odd idea that Cairns were built for the dead at ToJ and nobody ever retrieved the remains of some of the greatest knights of that age.
>>69141929
Full transcript link?
>>69141929
go away
>>69141885
>comparing fantasy books to boring ass "classics"
kek
>>69141509
Because the Riverlands is where all the war happens?
>>69141094
Your autistic comment is worse than all the things you mentioned combined
I really hope that they don't make Lyanna the knight of the laughing tree or make her a bitch stronk women stereotype.
>>69141924
>mereenese knot
It always makes me kek when tyrion introduces that one whore in season 3 as "one of only three people in the world capable of completing a mereenese knot"
>>69141445
>what are ghost writers
>>69140990
This is like something Darkstar would say
>>69141929
>>69141961
Yeah, don't be a faggot, upload the whole thing.
>>69141929
wow vague dialogue lines! must be a leak amirite?
>>69141981
>Brian Sanderson sends his regards
>>69141975
>they don't make Lyanna the knight of the laughing tree
but that's true
>>69141975
Too late bud
>>69141975
yeah I hope they make her a submissive damsel in distress and continue to portray the trend of marginalizing women in television
the sand snakes are worst characters i've ever seen
Any episode with Tormund in it is a great episode.
But honestly it was way better than the previous episode. I was honestly surprised when Ramsey killed both Big Bertha and her kid. I expected him to let the kid live but I guess that really isn't his thing.
The new storm dude showing up was weird though. Are we supposed to know he existed? I don't remember any of the Greyjoy's mentioning him.
>>69137401
>>69140628
Yes he is.
He got caught in the snow storm, because he thought R'hllor would protect him. And while his men are dying around him, he just stares in the flames looking for an answer.
>>69141869
Alfie was spotted filming scenes at the Pyke location. Can't be Theon because Ramsay would chain him up and torture him again.
It's assuredly Rickon. Why else would he be returning this season.
>>69141802
Prove it m8
>>69141727
That's the cover of my Game of Thrones book.
>>69142042
I don't get why people think this. They were fine.
does tormund love jon snow now?
>>69141861
Alester Florent is burned because he is a tr8-0r who tried to ship off Shireen and marry her to an incest bastard abomination. All this takes place after Stannis leaves Dragonstone as well.
Hodor is the name of Lyanna's horse
Wylis used to warg into Lyanna's horse
Wylis was warging as Hodor when Hodor got slain
Wylis became Hodor.
>>69141929
so anon the other dayt is actually right?
>>69142019
Its fucking dumb, a women would never be able to defeat knights in a joust (unless they had Briennes build).
>>69142026
Not all women characters need to be "LOL I CAN BEAT MEN AT BEING KNIGHTS LOL". They could easily be characters like Catelyn, Melisandre, Olenna, Alys Karstark etc who are far better characters than that women can do anything men can stereotype
>>69141727
Why is Jon left handed in this picture?
>>69142075
No, he respects him though
>>69142042
>worse than hot pie and lommy
>worse than dirk and co
>worse than LF gay guy
>worse than Mountain #2
>>69141939
I didn't even write that, just started posting it when some sperg complained it was one of the worst spammers on got
Still gets guaranteed mad replies from bookfags that take themselves way too seriously, truth hurts I guess
>>69142094
No. Hodor was hit over the head by someone whilst fighting and became retarded.
Just listened through the Red Wedding chapter on the way back from work. I did not remember it being quite so Cat focused.
What was your reaction the first time you read it? Was it before or after seeing it on the show?Frey worst house
>>69142094
No, Wyllis chased hodor into the winterfell crypts and was shocked to retardation when he saw the horse was the great other
>>69142075
He's done more for the Wildlings than anyone else has in thousands of years.
It makes sense that the Wildlings would love Jon.
>>69141921
Either that, or Hodor has the Great Other warged into him from when he visited the Crypts, and its name is Hodr (norse god of winter)
>>69142155
shiiit nigga i believe this
>>69142120
>autism
>>69142147
>tfw read it over a decade ago
>tfw cant even remember how I felt about any of the scenes
>>69142157
>tfw we're going to get based wildlings going full r'hllorian for Jon
based
>>69142055
I wouldn't count out theon getting captured and then rescued by his sister again. It's not like we should expect great flawless writing at this point. But you're probably right.
>>69142147
I'm not a showfag, I read it way before the show. It was amazing.
>>69141929
>"aswell"
>inconsistent punctuation
Why would you be typing these with your clammy fingers instead of copypasting? Dropped
>>69142147
>>69142147
>Oy vey remember the six gorrilion Freys who perished at the hands of Robb Stark when he transformed into a wolf at Roslin Frey's wedding
>Yes good goy, your greatest ally would never betray you
>>69142103
Lyanna being the knight makes sense though
And you answered yourself, not all women characters have to be MUH STRONK WYMIN and in the books they are not, this happens more in the show.
>>69142155
>when he saw the horse was the great other
what
>>69142147
I wish I could read the Red Wedding, Stannis attacking the Wildlings and the first Reek chapter for the first time again.
Post headcanons and lets see if any of it could actually make sense
>Jon Aryn with Robert Baratheon visits winterfell to take Ned with them to the vale
>Bobby sees Lyanna and is infatuated
>Bobby sees that Ned, Brandon and Benjen is sparring with wooden swords
>Jon aryn introduces Bobby to them
>Bobby asks to join them
>Brandon asks who he wants to spar with
>"Him" Bobby says while pointing his sword at Wylis
>Wylis is reluctant but is convinced by Lyanna
>Bobby keeps on glancing at Lyanna while sparring
>Wylis starts to overpower him
>Bobby stops holding back and hits Wylis for real and shows off to Lyanna thinking it would impress her
>Bobby hits Wylis too hard in the head
>the Starks overlook the injury since Bobby is Aryn's boy
Since then Lyanna had a negative view about Bobby B
>>69142254
>Lyanna
>Woman
>>69142251
She is such a qt both in character and out
>>69141975
>>69142019
>>69142103
Except its stated multiple times in the books that jousting takes riding skill, not physical strength.
Also, the knight is described as short of stature.
Also, the knights she defeated weren't even the good ones.
looks like meats back on the menu boys
>>69142277
Lyanna is not a faggot in a dress pretending to be a woman
>>69142147
read it first, already heard somethings about it before reading it, was kinda just shocked especially by how graphic it was and just how mental cat became, otherwise it wasn't a huge deal to me, i'd never connected with Robb, and I though cat was a rotten old bitch, who had it coming.
>>69142257
the great other was using Hodor to warg in and out of and wyllis saw the unwarging into the great others real body.
>>69142254
Why does it make sense? The "proof" I saw was just her liking horse riding and being a tomboy
>>69142217
If Ramsay finds Theon he's going to kill him immediately.
Ramsay made his insane power play and he's only going to snowball from there. Roose was the one holding him back and Roose is dead as dicks so Westeros is fucked.
You know that scene where Ramsay is shirtless covered in blood and wielding two knives? That's him all the time now.
how do you know lyanna's horse's named hodor?
>>69142260
That Stannis in the north was so out of fucking nowhere for me. Made me incredibly happy.
STANNIS! STANNIS! STANNIS!
>>69141166
the Frey's?
>>69142315
the power of autism
lol book spergs still sperging out about irrelevent lore
but muh laughing tree knight
>>69142045
He wasn't mentioned in the show before I think. I'm really hype for him though, I think I'd be hype for him even if I didn't already know about him from the internet.
>>69142260
Hey look its the mature man autist
>muh dillane
>god acting
>meme characters
am i rite
>>69142334
no lore is irrelevant
>>69142192
>>69142223
>>69142233
>>69142260
>>69142292
It was my second time. The first time and listening to it now is a completely different experience. Handsight let's you pick up on all the clues of Robb being doomed since the beginning of ASOS. Listening to it was bittersweet for me, I recall the foolish hope I still had for Starks first time around. This time I appreciated the artistry of the setup.
>>69142334
>STILL gettin buttblasted by the books
give it up sperg. You know where you need to head back to.
>>69142326
>tfw you'll never follow your King into the bitter cold slaying wilding fucking shits in the name of One True God
>>69142298
it makes sense from the perspective that rhaegar went after said knight and that's when he fell for herIM TELLING YOU ITS POTTERY ANON
>>69142363
your rite m8 lol
your a fanny man
>>69142366
I can't wait to see what kind of political intrigue the Winds of Winter has in store for us. I hope it has something on the scale of the Red Wedding plot wise
>>69142334
>I'm proud to be ignorant
>I despise other people wanting to absorb as much of the setting they enjoy as possible
>>69138695
>self proclaimed
Anon...
>>69142373
im not buttblasted, this shit is hilarious
you guys go from irrelevant character to nonsensical theory every week and then it gets completely #BTFO by the show and you circle the wagons and find something else.. lol just give up you sorry sons of whores have yet to be right
BUUT MUH EDGLORD OF THE NIGHT
>>69137233
>GURM is an atheist and you think any religion is going to be correct?
So Melly used science to bring Jon's long dead corpse back to life? There is definitely something going on with the R'hllor stuff.
>>69142423
I think we all know what's coming. Let's hope GRRM sees him off with the ending he deserves.
>>69142451
this is true lmao
Why did they cast a babbyfaced fatty who's 40 years younger than Balon to play euron
LORD BOLTON IS HERE
BOW DOWN BITCHES
>>69142451
I think you stumbled into the wrong place. This is /got/ not Reddit. We don't really come up with theories here- it's meme central and a clinic for sore Bookfags with a healthy number of Stannisfags
Happy british genes
>>69141681
that is extremely unsettling
>mfw Dany scene in S05E9 is unwatchable only because she has eyebrows too dark compared to her hair
seriously who directs this piece of shit? it was painful to watch. they pay millions for the show making and for everything to look good, but cant make her eyebrows paler?
>>69142416
I highly doubt Rhaegar went after Lyanna because she was pretending at being a knight. Rhaegar wasn't a fan of fighting/doing jousts. Lyanna was a beautiful girl, it makes sense that he would fall for her looks. And theres the prophecy of the Song of Ice and Fire, he must have thought Stark = Ice, Targs = fire so he thought he would need a child born between the two houses
I'M ALIVE ALIVE!!!!!!!!1
>>69142499
Once a Snow always a Snow
>>69142451
agreed with this post
anyone being a hardcore bookfag in 2016 has to be a newfag
>>69137233
I think R'hllor exists. Perhaps he's not "the" god. But he is a powerful entity regardless.
However, I don't think R'hllor is the god Melisandre is serving. I think she's fooled herself into thinking her miracles are the result of R'hllor. When in actuality, she's been serving the Great Other.
The evidence being the difference between Mel's practice vs Thoros's practice. Where Thoros can revive someone with the kiss of fire, Mel has to burn people alive just for a bit of luck.
Thoros give life by filling people with fire. Mel takes life to give birth to shadows.
>>69142451
but son, your posts is nothing but buttblasted spam. You have to go back.
>>69142486
euron is about 33 in the books
the actor portraying him is 34
its never really stated how old balon is, he could be much older
>>69142053
>Pray harder showfag
>>69142540
NOT FOR TOO LONG, BASTARD
>>69142475
>He will go down sacrificing himself in a Rohirrm death charge against the Great Other
>Westeros will never know of his sacrifice
>>69137233
rhaegar was azor ahai.
based bobby b doomed the world because he was cucked
>>69142591
We will.
>>69142538
But it was said that Rhaegar went after the knight who ran away, of course he wouldn't know it was Lyanna until he found her
Again this is just theories, but in my headcanon it was Lyanna
How do Riverland soldiers look like?
>showplebs
>>69142590
OH NO, BIG STRONG S-SIR, PLS DON'T HURT ME!
>>69142517
>what is cherry picking?
>>69142423
>something on the scale of the Red Wedding
Does "Red Wedding 2, Frey Shits Adieu" count?
>>69142534
targaryens are unique in appearance, in the books they have purple eyes, on the show they have darker eyebrows
i can see how that could be a problem for someone such as yourself
CRY MORE
>>69142628
BOW DOWN, KISS MY FEET AND BEG ME FOR LIFE U LITTLE CHEEKY CUNT
>>69142451
>people are talking things I don't care about, they must be retarded
>>69142606
CALLING ALL TARG FAGGOTS
Rhaegar was a useless piece of shit.
He was married, he had a caring wife and a child, yet he had to go and kidnap Robert's promised wife.
With Robert being one of the most influential men and the one in the right, this brought pain and ruin on the Targs.
Rhaegar actively destroyed the Targ kingdom just to pursue a shitty prophecy.
>"B-but what if Lyanna loved Rhaegar?"
WHO GIVES A FUCK who that whore loved, she was promised to Robert to join two of the biggest houses, you dumbfuck, and a huge queerlooking dragon faggot fucking took her away.
>"B-but Robert is the usurper"
NO YOU RETARD, Targs love boasting about how they conquered the fucking kingdom "With Fire and Blood" and when someone gives some blood back they cry for their mommies.
Also, Robert did it without fucking overpowered dragons.
ADDITIONAL REMINDER
Due to ToJ being featured in Monday episode we should expect a lot of Drag-faggotry in /got/. Let all good men declare their loyalty and drive these fucker from our thread.
>>69142045
>I expected him to let the kid live
why did balon rebel in the first place
makes zero sense rebelling against a strong kingdom under robert with the support of the lannisters and shit
plus how do the iron islanders even get food from, they shouldn't even exist
>>69142670
>he roleplays in got threads
>>69141161
>Moqorro also has problem sacrificing people to R'hllor.
Was Moqorro actively endorsing and supporting Victarion burning people as sacrifices?
I seem to remember Moqorro going along with Victarion burning people, but only because Moqorro had no choice but to endorse everything Vic says or does. If he didn't, Victarion would just toss him into the sea. He doesn't have a choice but to obey. I could be remembering it wrong, though. It has been a while since I read the books.
>>69142670
But your post is clearly wrong.
The rebellion was successful because all the houses was tired of Aery's insanity
>>69142669
no, the part where you are always wrong is the retarded part
now make some more meme arrows and post that hilarious frog, its all youre good for
>>69142682
Based Robert. Robert>>>>>>Stannis
>>69142689
he thought the other lords didn't really support Robert and that the kingdoms would fracture before they united behind Bobby B
>>69142670
>ned's blood will sit the throne
>big bobby b will see peace again
IT BEGINS LADS
>>69142701
and yeah, I know you meant to say "Moqorro has no problem with burning people"
>>69142665
I'LL DO EVERYTHING JUST DON'T HURT ME PLS.
GET THAT SANSA AND LEAVE, SIR
>>69142688
As far as show only characters go, Olly is okay. Speaking of which, I miss the Spice King.
>>69142751
>>69142751
>>69142751
NEW EPISODE
if you watch that scene of assassination attempt at dany at the games, its very clear how daario always tries to get her into a trap or doesnt let her known assassin is behind her. but jorah does from 30 m distance. daario confirmed for the leader of the harphies who organized that attempt. he even was in favor of the games beacuse of that reason alone.
>>69142689
Because Iron Islanders are the niggers of Westeros
>I could easily raid the Westerlands
>I know I'll just attack the North with my shit tier army
>I'll never hold it but fuck it
>Muh Iron Price
>Muh driftwood crown
Who is leading house baratheon now?
>>69142787
>implying
A man with no motive is a man no one suspects.
So the real leader of the Harpies is Grey Worm
>>69142714
I don't understand why you are being so autistic that's all
who cares if people talk about book theories, you can just ignore those and keep talking about whatever the fuck you enjoy talking about here
>>69141920
>Daenerys must be Rhaegar's, but it would be even better if she was Lyanna's too.
>That would unite her with Jon in terms of military alliance.
>I just can't wrap my head around how is this possible.
Eddard knocks up Ashara Dayne at the tourney
Rhaegar knocks up Lyanna after “kidnapping” her
E+A baby is Jon Snow and looks like his dad
R+L baby is Daenerys and looks like her dad
Eddard shows up and promises Lyanna
Takes baby Daenerys to Starfall Castle in Dorne
Gives her to Ashara Dayne
Takes baby Jon Snow back with him to Winterfell in the North
*something happens*
Ashara Dayen commits suicide or becomes Septa Lemore
Baby Daenerys sent to Braavos to be with her brother and Willam Darry
The rest we more or less know
>>69142453
Magic without gods
>>69142548
>birth to shadows.
So Jon will become an edgelord who serves the Great Other/ice?
>>69142927
>Implying Dany isn't Rhaegar's and Rhaella's spawn
>>69142147
All I remember is the weight in my chest when Cat thought something like
>Not my hair... Ned loves my hair
As a thug grabbed her hair to expose her throat for the kill. Man that was fucked.
>>69143106
the bit just before that when she describes the blood being worms crawling down her arms did it for me
>>69143106
>>69143175
In the original manuscript things were even edgier.
>>69138739
if there is something blackfish is excellent at is escaping from every single dangerous situation like a fucking rat jumping from a sinking boat
