Whats the actual point of this whole civil war?
IronMan supposedly wants to keep all Supers in check and accounable but isnt that exactly whats already happening with Shield as shown in Agents of Shield? And why arent Inhumans or any other Supers mentioned in Civil War?
>>69092729
>And why arent Inhumans or any other Supers mentioned in Civil War?
Vision mentions that other Enhanced beings outing themselves had grown exponentially since iron Man revealed himself
>>69092729
I don't watch super hero movies but I'm curious about this one, spoil it for me pls.
I think the last half and hour shows he knows the registration was a stupid idea making the whole movie pointless
>>69092821
Crossbones comes through at the end after a resolution has been decided between the differing sides and kills Captain America.
>>69092729
>Iron-Man discovers one boy was part of collateral damage
>WE NEED TO BE CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT
What was the point of Zemo? Where we meant to feel sorry for him?
>>69092729
Reports are indicating Marvel is trying to work with Fox and that's why Inhumans has been delayed.
They got Sony to give them Spider-Man back and they're trying to get X-Men back now.
>>69092729
The Avengers don't answer to SHIELD since TWS.
And they're keeping the movies and the show separate. Could've had a namedrop though.
The Sokovia Accord wasn't really about supers but more about a superpowered hitsquad of random individuals performing missions in whatever country they wanted, with no respect to borders, local laws and with no accountability. You can't just show up with a private military organization and wreck shit up in another country.
>>69092860
the very first death in the MCU
>>69092951
Obadiah Stane died in IM1, and like ~100 people dies in Avengers 1.
But he was a good boy who just wanted to study, he dindu nuffin
>Comic had hundreds of heroes and villains taking sides
>Movie has like 12 heroes and a couple of villains in all
Might as well call this Civil Fight, this isn't even close to a war.
>>69093020
The Sokovia Accord didn't even mean anything for villains, while the SHRA meant a lot for villains as well
>>69092729
Basically stupid nigger woman got into tony's head. If the avengers did sweet fuck all then there would be more dead then alive. Literally ass wipe back seat driver sheboon complains about the avengers not leaving the lemmings to their own demise because thats how blacks think. Tony has been called a piece of shit so many times she gets into his head because trayvon really died during the chaos of the last avengers movie.
>>69093020
>movie uses comic book event name for no reason
WOW
>>69093020
>whole shit span less than a week in real time
>wooow where is everybody else?
>>69093019
that's why i hate most capeshit
it's too silly and then it tries to take itself seriously. A kid dying wouldn't spark this shit
>>69093020
Yeah, they'll change the name of the movie to appease nitpicking autists like you.
>>69093079
No, what sparked it was a couple of magical high advanced niggers dying. The death of the kid just hit Tony personally, causing him to immediately side with the Accord.
>>69093079
No, the incident in South Africa is what sparked this.
>>69093113
>>69093116
a thousand niggers in Africa dying wouldnt spark this shit. No one cares about Africa
>>69093215
Well, until a girl with the power to make things float and explode with her mind kills a lot of niggers, we won't know, /pol/
>>69093215
It's magical advanced rich niggers with the leading reserves of Vibranium, that are apparently a really big deal in international politics even though they were almost completely secluded from the rest of the world until recently.
But it was mostly Scarlet Witch actively fucking up.
>>69093215
They care when there are citizens of super nigger country with advanced tech in there.
>>69093215
Have you watched the film? It was a combination of the previous events. Alien invasion in New York, Sokovia getting destroyed, helicarriers dropping on a US city, Hulk rampaging in Africa and Scarlet Witch managing to blow up several floors in Africa, killing a lot citizens of Wakanda. It was pretty obvious that at some point country leaders would say they've had enough of completely unsupervised people with powers suddenly showing up and causing destruction.
So was Wankanda one of these african countries that had an uproar in the early70s/late 80s and killed all the white men in power?
My follow up to this is how did Wankanda's economy thrive after all these years whilst the other african countries are absolute dross ruled by corrupt greedy africans?
>>69093238
>i say nigger therefor im a /pol/ack
call down nancy
>>69093311
>>69093303
the DC movies aren't as good but the world is better. why can't we have nice things?
>>69093327
>im asking the sparked incident
>upset that it sounds literally retarded
>HAB YOU TEEN IT
i wonder
>>69093346
The fact that you are getting triggered because people care about African civilians dying in a fictional world?
Only a /pol/ack is sensitive enough to get triggered by that, yes.
>>69093346
>the world is better
Because there are no advanced niggers that might offend your feelings?
Don't you have to another thread to make about how offensive Black Panther is?
>>69093346
>the DC movies aren't as good but the world is better. why can't we have nice things?
How the fuck is that related to the posts you quoted?
Why are you suddenly bringing up DC? They hardly even have a world, we've only seen 2 movies, both situated completely in New York apart from Lois in some sandnigger country
>>69093362
>WOW THIS IS SO RETARDED BECAUSE THE WORLD DOESN'T CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE
Why does /pol/ suddenly act as if they were relevant?
>>69093383
>you clearly hate niggers and not the lack realism you are criticizing it for
wewlad
tell me when the last time that murders in Africa or Africa in general has mattered to the world
>>69093398
because they don't pretend people didn't die
>full scale invasion in new york
>7 heroes
>countless bad guys shooting shit
>only 100 people die
>Iron man runs the worm into buildings to slow it down
no way only 100 people died
>>69093462
the invasion was more believable during and post
>>69093476
>lack realism
What?
A movie about a bunch of people fighting, with a girl among them that could literally blow up the planet with her mind and a robot that can phase through people because he's powered by a magic gem that apparently had something to do with the creation of the universe, is not realistic?
>>69093470
>people in Africa die and that sparks Civil War
>wow thats retarded
>WHY DO YOU HATE BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!!!
>The Ghostbusters are women now
>wow that's retarded
>WHY DO YOU HATE WOMEN?!?!?!!!!!?!?!!?!?
>>69093476
>they don't pretend people didn't die
Nigger, this movie happens precisely because people are dying.
DC doesn't pretend people didn't die, but they don't do anything with that, it's just a number.
>>69093529
>people in Africa die and that sparks Civil War
>wow thats retarded
Why is it retarded?
>>69093519
>what is suspension of disbelief
>capecucks dont understand
weeeeeeeeew
>>69093536
because a few people die?
also they made a Superman committee and people were out to murder Superman and despised him for not doing more
>>69093529
No, African civilians died as a direct consequence of the Avengers.
This, on top with creating a robot that almost destroyed the planet.
>Agents of Shield
Can we stop pretending that anything from that show matters? No one involved in the marvel film making actually watches it. It's like Star Wars EU, filler for fans that mostly serves as a commercial.
>>69093552
wow, this new?
Africa is nothing but tragedy and no one giving a fuck
>>69093565
Yeah, the 90 year old guy from WWII who can hold helicopters with his hands, the robot with a gem related to the creation of the universe in his forehead, the guy who suddenly got powers because of a herb, the girl who can disrupt reality by twisting her fingers and the kid that shoots webs and sticks to the walls is fine, but it's niggers dying the one that suspense your disbelief.
Give me a fucking break.
>>69093577
That's still retarded
Do thousands die because an anon said it was less than 5 people
>>69093633
No, it was an entire building full of civilians and Scarlet Witch blew it up by accident.
>>69093621
>dodges post that hard
wewlad
>>69093650
>his suspension of desbelief is broken by fact that people care about nigger civilians dying
Yup, an irrelevant /pol/cuck.
>>69093590
Don't worry, next time it'll be a massacre of white people to appeal to you and the SJWs.
The movies don't acknowledge Agents of SHIT
There is no more SHIELD.
>>69093638
It was hardly an entire building that died
>>69093670
>superhero movie
>okay
>wants to be taken seriously
>introduces geopolitics
>can't get that right
>sorry doesn't work for me
>WHAT WHY DO YOU HATE BLACK PEOPLE>??@>?@?!>?!@#>>?!@#$<!@#?
>>69093711
I'm glad they did it that way, can't wait for Black Panther to come out and see all of /pol/ mad as fuck.
Agents of SHIELD isn't canon.
>>69093621
> it's fiction, so contextual consistency is irrelevant
Are you a women or something?
>>69093709
The explosion she was containing would have leveled the entire block, and she focused it on the building.
>>69093709
This is what im talking about. it makes no sense. even a whole building wouldn't cause Civil War.
If the inciting incident is retarded then the whole movie is
>>69093020
>YOU JUST STARTED A WAR!
>line is not even in the movie
>>69093670
Why do you Tumblr cucks even come here if you are going to throw a fit every time someone says something you wish was censored by the Government?
>>69093759
Because what causes the Civil War is not the incident.
The incident just makes the Accords be approved to control superheroes.
Is the Accords what sparks the Civil War, and even then, Cap goes rogue because they want to give Bucky to the same government that was using him as a hitman.
>>69093777
gamergate detected
>>69093732
>that sounds retarded
>YOU HATE BLACKS
>i dont
>YOU HATE BLACKS
>why
>YOU HATE BLACKS
>the movie doesn't sound like it hold suspension of disbeliefe
>YOU HATE BLACKS
>YOU HATE BLACKS YOU HATE BLACKS YOU HATE BLACKS YOU HATE BLACKS YOU HATE BLACKS YOU HATE BLACKS YOU HATE BLACKS YOU HATE BLACKS YOU HATE BLACKS YOU HATE BLACKS
>lol BTFO that dumb /pol/ im glad Black Panther is in it cause YOU HATE BLACKS
>I like Black Panther
>>69093670
>worshipping niggers this hard
If only we had country flags
>>69093777
>you are an SJW unless you think people would shrug off the fact that these superheroes have killed a fuckload of civilians in Africa
Congrats.
>>69093805
Yes you do, you started all this because your sensitive self can't take the fact that people in this fictional world care about heroes killing African civilians.
>>69093795
>out of nowhere gamergate is mentioned
I see neo-/v/edditors are in full force today
>>69093793
Except that doesn't make any sense. Their motives for being split is the inciting incident and past ones. Why when less than 300 people have died when they are around? sounds like they are doing a good job
>>69092729
I didn't watch it and I will certainly won't pay to see this shit, but tell me, in the end, did the super heroes get registered by the gubbermint or not?
>>69093815
Sorry, next time i'll pretend the world cares about what /pol/ thinks to not trigger you, okay?
>>69093756
Like was addressed directly, the Avengers (and Steve in particular) had been pretty casual about walking away from collateral damage even if they had ultimately served the great good
"x amount of people died to save y amount of people" isn't much consolation to the people who were part of the x
>>69093867
I'm not the one getting triggered over fictional niggers in africa, anon.
>>69093844
I wish i did. would make life easier
>>69093859
>Their motives for being split is the inciting incident and past ones.
No, it isn't, the motive for the split is because Cap doesn't want the Avengers to be controlled by the same government that in TWS turned out to be controlled by HYDRA.
The only thing the incident causes is have the Accords be approved.
>>69093819
They didn't kill anyone directly, and they fuel up way more in other movies.
Sorry, it's just bad writing to get a quick excuse to get cap ando Tony to fight.
And you are an SJW when you get so triggered by a single word you go into our full damage control for a kid's movie.
>>69093888
but you are getting triggered by anons who think that sounds retarded beyond belief
>>69093711
The movie outright states that it's a combination of all the previous films events culminating in world leaders getting sick of a group of super powered people turning up unannounced and blowing shit up before leaving with zero accountability. Just because you're doing the right thing bringing criminals to justice doesn't give you the right to ignore international law.
What do you think would happen if someone formed a mercenary company that went around the world starting random shootouts with drug lords/arms dealers/mob bosses.
>>69093913
>They didn't kill anyone directly,
In Africa Scarlet Witch did.
She was containing an explosion with her powers, she was losing control and pushed the contained explosion into the building where all the civilians were.
>>69093900
that's even worse m8
so you are saying they all have no motive beyond the script says there needs to be a fight?
>>69092729
>Iron man, I was clearly brainwashed and acting against my own will. No one would be able to not kill your parents in my situation, even you would have killed them
>I dont care lol xD
That made no sense at all.
0/10 movie
>>69093945
>no motive
No motive aside from the fact that Cap doesn't trust the government after being infiltrated by HYDRA for about 60 years?
>>69093940
global politics don't work like that
>>69093945
They're fighting for their rights.
>>69093973
>cap is the only character in the movie
weeeeeeeeeew
I was talking about literally everyone else in the movie lad
>>69093866
It wasn't shown but you can do the math that it is the case.
>>69093900
>the motive for the split is because Cap doesn't want the Avengers to be controlled by the same government that in TWS turned out to be controlled by HYDRA.
No, it's pointed out to him that the oversight body would be the UN, not some singular government or easily compromised body like SHIELD
Steve believes they shouldn't be under the control of *anybody* because the Avengers judgement is the one they can trust the most. He almost signs the accords and pulls out when he finds out that the power of it is already being abused with Wanda being under effective house arrest.
>>69093866
The movie isn't about superheroes being registered by the government, but about the Avengers being forced to answer to the UN instead of being a private organization meddling in other country's affairs.
The latter happened, but most of the avengers went rogue.
>>69093968
He was angry.
>>69093987
they are fighting each other for their rights?
>>69093859
>less then 300 people
What about the thousands that died in the avengers, winter soldier and age of ultron?
>>69093918
I don't really care, I'm just here for funsies
>>69094027
only 100 died in avengers according to the guy that says im a racist for thinking it sounds retarded
>>69093943
Instead of the ground level, where all the civilians also were
>>69094025
Yes.
>>69094025
Yes.
>>69093943
Yea, that's an accident and not killing people directly.
>>69093940
>What do you think would happen if someone formed a mercenary company that went around the world starting random shootouts with drug lords/arms dealers/mob bosses.
Mexico?
>>69094003
Why are you complaining about a movie you have clearly not watched?
Each member states their own motives.
>>69094044
>YOU HATE BLACK PEOPLE
>what
>LOL TRIGGERED POL
>what, you seem upset
>I HERE FOR FUN :D
kek
>>69094027
>What about the thousands that died in the avengers, winter soldier and age of ultron?
Avengers: 74 dead
Winter Soldier: 23 dead
Ultron: 177 dead
>>69094044
>don't care
You butthurt says otherwise.
>>69093945
No, that is not what is was saying,
Can't you read?
>>69094084
>NO U
Whatever you say, anon
>>69094084
But you are still here complaining because people care about niggers in this fictional universe, /pol/cuck.
>>69094083
I'm asking you about the movie anon, my first post asked about the movie and i said that it sounded retarded and everyone got triggered to hell
i asked you about motive but you only bring up government and cap twice. Why should i see a movie when clearly it's just shit?
>>69093987
>>69094025
https://youtu.be/guG9cVs3ms4?t=30s
>>69094118
I'm doing it because I'm curious about the movie and also assblasting you
feelsgood to derail a thread
>haha niggers
>triggered
>no you're triggered
>why you triggered
>nigger this nigger that
>triggered
>no u
>>69094122
Are you telling me you are saying the movie is shit because you don't know things about the plot?
>>69094118
No he wasn't, that just the strawman you went with.
He's complaining the justification for the plot is shit, but he used a bad word, and you got triggered. You don't actually give a fuck about why it's a shit excuse, you just want to shame someone for saying "nigger" online.
Jesus Christ, you SJW's are fucked in the head.
>>69094137
Wait, so are you the guy that's upset about fictional dead niggers, or the guy laughing about fictional dead niggers?
>>69094137
Haha.
>>69094108
I did, i asked for motive twice and you only gave cap's
the rest dont have any?
>>69094175
And you are saying that the movie is shit because you don't know plot points that are explained in the movie.
>>69094161
/tv/ is truly dead
i went to /v/ this week, they actually got their shit together more than we do now. that's sad.
>>69094086
Source?
I refuse to believe that only 74 people were killed during a full scale alien invasion of new York that resulted in multiple buildings collapsing.
In ultron a whole fucking city was dropped from the sky.
This also doesn't address the fact you have people like the hulk who are one bad day away from going on an unstoppable rampage operating with zero oversight or accountability.
>>69094188
Only if literally everyone in this thread who has replied to me is retarded. I've been asking about the movie this whole time and triggered you fucks somehow
>>69094196
It's just cuck tourists. They will get used to it or leave in time.
>>69094196
Nope, that board is just as fucked up as this one with selective moderation. There's 3-10 Blizzard threads 24/7 now. Blizzard games is basically /v/'s capeshit.
>>69094175
Falcon and Scarlet Witch have the same motives as Cap.
Hawkeye owes a debt to Scarlet Witch.
Ant-Man just wants to help.
They're all united in their skepticism towards the U.N. and their dislike for Tony Stark.
>>69094163
that's one guy and neither
i think it's retarded because Africa not niggers
>>69094122
because instead of trying to be the smartest ass on the internet you can be somewhat productive with your time
>>69094235
Agreed, Hollywood's nigger fetish is out of control
>>69094226
you're probably right, i wouldn't know since i go on /vg/ and stay in my threads
/bliz/ will happen one day, cleansing the board forever
>>69094175
>Cap
You already know, doesn't trust the government.
>Wanda
Under house arrest over an accident that she didn't have any control of.
>Falcon
Cap's best buddy, he's not going to betray him now. In fact, he even opposes the registration more firmly than Cap the moment they are forced to sign it.
>Ant-Man
Cap fanboy, he's already a thief so he's already at odds with the government, they recruit him mostly because Falcon deemed him useful for what happened in the Ant-Man movie.
>Bucky
He's being framed for the UN incident and the government wants to bring him in.
>Hawkeye
He owes Wanda because her brother sacrificed himself to save him, plus in a deleted scene of TWS, he helped Cap escape SHIELD/HYDRA's agents.
>>69093633
>>69093638
If I remember right 14 Wakanda's were killed in the explosion and probably an unmentioned number of other people.
>>69094231
>anti government
>towards the UN
>the UN
>actually having power
>>69094213
Ross shows the Avengers team recordings of almost every major conflict in the MCU to date when he's telling them the world is demanding the Avengers be made accountable to a higher authority. It has the casualties for each listed.
>>69094253
Good, it means more mad /pol/cucks.
>>69094266
Im talking about Ironman's side. although wow half those are half baked
why all of a sudden turn on your allies? because the plot dictates it?
>>69094256
>>69094226
>mfw I got Diablo 3+ expansion for 20$ and I'm having fun
NO REGRETS
>>69094293
>i got btfo on /pol/ and im still butthurt about it
>guess ill look for an excuse to take it out on /tv/
>>69094288
this is what i meant about the DC comment i made
thousands died in MoS alone causing people to become divided on Superman and the government to create a committee
>>69094311
It's not Iron Man the one who turns on them, precisely is him who is desperate to keep the teams together, even in the beggining of the airport fight he only wants to talk with Cap and he practically pleads him to just go along with the Accords.
>>69094319
>the worst diablo
>>69094334
>thousands died in MoS alone causing people to become divided on Superman and the government to create a committee
The problem is that it ended up going nowhere.
It has zero effect on the plot of BvS.
>>69094175
Scarlet witch dosen't want to be treated like a walking WMD, Falcon is caps friend, antman doesn't like stark, spiderman is an iron man fan boy, warmachine is tony's friend, black panther just wants revenge, hawk-eye trusts caps judgement, vision believes in the greater good and tony still has a guilt complex from his weapons being the direct cause of a number of deaths over the years.
>>69094343
that's even worse
>>69094378
Why?
>>69094213
Only one building collapsed on screen in New York, and only the upper floors.
Most of Sokovia had been evacuated when the city pummelled from the say.
>>69094368
he only had people trying to kill him and ruin him
It went no where but that's more because the studio forced Wonder Jew and Doomsday in, since they derail the fuck out of the plot more than anything.
I'm not defending BvS, im saying it tried to go that route without pulling punches
>>69093589
>>69093697
>>69093739
>le agents of shield isnt canon even though Marvel themselves say it is
When will this meme end?
>>69094421
It's irrelevant if it's canon or not because Marvel movies never acknowledge what happens in it.
Might as well not exist.
>>69094391
>iron man
>antagonist
>"No man lets be friends"
>>69094311
Iron Man: is leading the push for regulation, believes it needs to be done now, in a form they can influence and moderate, before the situation worsens and harsher restrictions are put on them by force
War Machine: former military officer, believes in accountability and a chain of command
Vision: believes the steadily increasing amount of superhumans is leading to equally increasing levels of chaos and danger, as the strength of villains scales upwards along with the strength of the Avengers. Believes stability and order are good things and regulation is more likely to lead to them
Widow: believes keeping the Avengers together is a cause important enough that compromise is acceptable (she flips to Cap's side)
Spiderman: recruited by Tony to add numbers to their side, sticks with him out of loyalty/admiration
Black Panther: is only every with Tony for the sake of convenience, he is solely dedicated to killing Bucky, Cap and his side are protecting Bucky (also flips to Caps side when he finds out the truth about Bucky)
>>69094433
not same anon, but it has to be canon considering characters from the show make cameos in the movies
It had to be irrelevant though to not bog down the movies and thank god because it's unwatchable
>>69094435
That's one of the points of the movie, they wanted to make both sides sympathetic, something that comic Civil War failed to do because they made Iron Man a mustache-twisting villains.
That's why all this ''Are you Team IM or Team Cap'' thing began.
>>69094468
Season 2 and 3 are good m8.
>>69094421
I didn't say it's non-canon, I said it's shit and the movies ignore it (both true)
>>69094466
>Iron man's motive
>main badguy
>second biggest thing in this movie
>not even a really motive
>>69094435
Iron Man is not the antagonist.
>>69094421
It's only canon on paper, but not in practice.
It's just like Star Wars "canon."
>>69094486
>season 2 is good
I fell for the season 1 meme and realized season 2 was a meme after 5 episodes. you cant trick me
>>69094486
AoS is shit, and if you say it's good you are probably a waifufag.
>>69094512
>Civil War
>Not really lel
>>69094524
People who say Season 1 got good after the Winter Soldier crossover are evil and not to be trusted
>>69094541
>not really
???
There's a conflict, there's just not good or bad guys.
You are just pointing at something that was what they were going for.
>>69094505
You may be thinking of the shitty comic or something, but the people who made this movie remembered that all the members of the Avengers are heroes
Tony Stark is not a bad guy, or evil, or a villain. He's one of the founding Avenger and a hero.
>>69094541
I'm starting to think you are just desperate to hate this movie.
They are all heroes, they all want to keep the planet secure, making one of the two bad guys would be absolutely retarded.
>>69094524
Season 2 really kicks off once Hydra stop being the big bad and the show shifts towards Inhumans.
>>69094466
So which side is Trump and which side is Hillary?
>>69094595
>He's one of the founding Avenger and a hero
>hero
That's probably heavily debated amongst regular people in their universe.
>>69094595
I liked the video game ending better.
>>69094643
>serious sequel about the repercussions of the previous films. Focusing on so much detail to a point it is discussed that captain america's shield is government property
>completely ignore that the group created a sentient being with a magic lemon in his head
>>69094906
What exactly were they suppose to talk about several month after his creation?
>>69095215
>where does his loyalty lie? What is his identity? American?
>Would he eventually become an enemy?
>how powerful can he be?
>should counter measures be in place?
similar themes discussed inthe superman films tbhwy
>>69095256
You mean they should kill Vision because there's 1% chance he's not a good guy?
>>69095279
Im not choosing to take lines out the script, no. If you can read I mention that "similar themes" were discussed
>>69095311
Vision is already working with the Avengers and is on the side of the accords. What more do you want?
>>69095325
so the government decide to just accept that he has a magic lemon in his forehead?
hilarious tbhwy
>>69095311
So like the accords?
Which handle all those themes.
For every Avenger.
>>69095325
I'm also pretty sure it wouldn't be open knowledge what he actually is.
He actually discusses the nature of what he is and his concerns (fears?) about the Mind Gem with Wanda, for what it's worth.
>>69095353
A magic lemon being used to blast their enemies.
>>69095353
And Tony has areactor in his chest and wanda is a nazi made psychic and Thor is a godlike alien.
Magic lemon, oh no.
>>69093073
Yeah, Marvel's fucking shit like that, Anon.
>All this just to show a video to Tony
Zemo's plan was convoluted as fuck
>>69095353
Why wouldn't they?
I sometimes ironically pretend to enjoy action flicks too.
>>69095256
>That guy isn't even a year old
>Says he is loyal to life
>Able to wield Thors hammer
>Scarlet Witch can read his mind and detect any form of malice in him
I am not talking in behalf of any goverments point of view, but when it comes to the Avengers, I think having trust in vision isn't too far fetched.
>>69095460
He's literally a comic book villain.
>>69095474
Trusting Mjölnir and Wanda on the other hand might not be such a hot idea.
>>69095353
>>69095256
>tbhwy
Why are you talking with a proud Redditor?
>>69095465
Oh don't worry, we all know the true Kinographers of /tv/ only like the first 5 minutes of TDKR.
>>69095497
Why not?
>>69095460
Showing Tony the video was just the best possible outcome.
If Cap and Bucky were caught at the airport, they'd all be locked in The Raft and Zemo's plan still would have been completely successful.
Both parts were right and had their points, that's the whole point. You have to be take responsibility and be accountable for what you do, but at the same time governments have their own agenda and not always have innocent lives in mind.
>>69095552
They haven't known Wanda any longer than they've known Vision, you know. And Mjölnir is an alien artifact.
I actually liked Zemo, was a pretty relatable guy, he knew what he did was wrong, he even regrets killing Tchalla's dad and all the other people, but he just wanted to avenge his family.
If Tony weren't so arrogant less people would be mad at the avengers.
>>69095520
not sure tbhwy
>No one mentions Quicksilver
>Not even his sister
Ice cold
>>69095687
>everything is Tony's fault again
When will that rascal learn?
>>69095713
>''Haha, hey Wanda remember your brother, the last member of your family who died a year ago and the only person you had since your childhood? It was fun how fast he was right? Haha.''
>>69095655
Except Wanda was at first against Vision and really has no reason to lie in this regard.
And Mjölnir reacts seemingly on the same moral system as human have. Also Thor said it is save with the vision.
>>69095687
And yet, at the end of the story Tony's probably the most sympathetic guy out of the conflict, worked harder than ever before to do the right thing, and was the one who walked away with what amounted to the moral victory.
The final scene with the shield was some pretty Feels Bad Man stuff.
Who Marvel Entertainment here?
MCU is honestly cancer
>>69095713
Hawkeye specifically says he came back because he owed it to her, and that debt is kind of obvious even if it's not directly said
>>69095756
There're ways and ways, something like
>Vision: 1010011 are you ok? 011001
>Wakanda: I miss my bruther, da
Or show him in the images of casualties during the battle of sokovia
They mentioned Pepper, but not Pietro? it seems odd
>>69095828
Because Pepper is alive and they had to explain why she wasn't there.
Her brother died and she's trying to accept it.
>>69095792
What good is cap without that shield anyway? Or is T'Challa making him a new one since ALL DAT VIBRANIUM.
>>69095792
>The final scene with the shield was some pretty Feels Bad Man stuff.
Cap's movies are the ones that gave me most feels
>Whatever happens tomorrow you must promise me one thing. That you will stay who you are. Not a perfect soldier, but a good man.
>Then finish it. 'Cause I'm with you 'til the end of the line.
>You don't deserve that! My father made that shield!
>>69095855
He'll become Nomad, but without the gay as fuck outfit.
>>69095855
>What good is cap without that shield anyway?
Superhumanly good to be honest, the shield is extra defense, but without it he can still be dangerous as fuck, and yes, I guess T'Challa is going to make him a new one.
Imagine if quicksilver were alive, all that banter between him and spider-man
>>69095881
What's a Nomad?
>>69092729
Why is daredevil not in the avengers when he's basically same tier as bw or hawk
>>69095942
>>69092729
Originally they had to register their secret identities. Essentially give up their anonymity.
Cap wasn't having it even though literally the whole world knows who he is.
Iron Man uses Peter Parker as the poster boy and he get fucked.
>>69095942
For a time Steve gave up the Captain America name and called himself Nomad
With a gay as hell costume
>>69095963
>>69096013
Yeah, that's going to need to be changed.
>>69092909
Wait, are you telling me these movies aren't driven by artistic reasons?
>>69095881
So, Jack Monroe's Nomad then? I would be really okay with that. Nomad and baby Bucky please!
>>69095460
to be fair Plan A was probably less complicated
But the Hydra guy'd rather drown than just tell Zemo where the base was
>>69096031
On the other hand, who wouldn't want to watch Chris Evans make his own fabulous costume
>>69096031
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/jack-monroe/4005-7618/
Many people were Nomad, but Jack was the most popular/better written.
i hope they dont get x-men, mutants don't make sense in marvel
>>69096284
This is a dumb meme.
>>69096279
http://www.writeups.org/nomad-jack-monroe-marvel-comics-america/
It would be cool to see Sebastian Stan with the Jack Monroe look.
>>69096307
But it's true, centinels don't seem to kill mutants when they're in other comics, see Spider-man's rogue gallery, mutants in the avengers, etc.
Also people hate mutants, but don't hate mutates, even when you can't distinguish between them.
Mutants as treated in the comics don't make sense in the same universe as the other heroes.
>>69096447
SPIDER-MAN IS A MENACE!
>>69096468
And that's it, a newspaper saying Spider-man is a menace, but you don't see 20 ft engines of destruction created by the government coming to Queens and making rain hell on Peter due being a mutate scum.
>>69096512
I've seen him fight Sentinels though.
I swear Marvel and DC traded and looked over script details for both BvS and Civil War.
They're the fucking same movie.
>>69096512
SPIDER-SLAYERS!!!!!
>>69096561
>created by the American government to attack USA citizens in American soil
>>69096550
Is that why Zemo uses his DNA with the Chitauri corpse to create CGI Mountain Troll that kills Captain America with a vibranium spear?
It all makes sense now.
>>69096598
>In Amazing Spider-Man #603, Jameson (now Mayor of New York) has some old Spider-Slayers sent to him from storage, to better equip his "Anti-Spider Squad" to take down Spider-Man. The Spider-Slayer technology is combined with that of the Mandroid suits. However, the "Spider-Slayer Squad" wearing the suits quit their jobs after Spider-Man saves them and New York from a dirty bomb.[
>>69094619
>hey i've yet to see it, what sparks it what are motives
>well 5 random people in africa die and Iron man and Cap have motives thinly vailed
>wow sounds shit
>THAT CAUSE YOU HATE BLACK PEOPUL LOL POL BTFO CAUSE BLACK PANTHER
>I don't and BP is pretty cool
>FUCKING RACIST
>k
>i bet you're desperate to hate this movie.
>>69096635
>Zemo's plan
>They killed my family
>So I'm going to frame the winter soldier with a prosthetic mask I made
>And then I'll interview him to find the other Winter Soldiers
>But then I'll kill the other Winter Soldiers
>But I'll bring everyone to where they are
>Specifically Iron Man, Captain America and The Winter Soldier
>Then I'll load this tape showing Bucky killing the parents of Tony Stark
>And the Avengers will punch each other
>And they did
>But it didn't really matter in the end
>They're good friends now
>Whatever bro my plan was great I wasn't even going to shoot myself in the end
>>69096789
>but they're good friends now
clearly they aren't
Also he didn't have the tape, that's why he wanted to go to Siberia, for the tape
>>69096789
>They're good friends now
Oh, you didn't actually see it?
>>69096845
He went to Siberia for a tape on the basis that if he showed the tape to Stark he would kill Captain out of being good friends with Bucky, is that right?
>>69096955
Showing that tape to Tony would make him want to kill Bucky, which Cap would try to stop. There wouldn't be much chance of reasoning with him at that point.
>>69096789
>They're good friends now
Come back and post when you've actually seen the movie.
So will the next Iron Man movie be The Five Nightmares arc or will it lead into Norman Osborn taking over as Iron Patriot?
>>69096982
also Zemo specifically says he's spent years studying everything he could about Cap, and Cap's relationship with Bucky is no secret, so yes he knew that would be outcome.
>>69097011
No it'll be Ben Kingsley coming back with ten magic rings.
>>69092860
Correction: /they/ need to be controlled by the government: technically speaking, without the suit, Ironman is only a super-genius.
Basically, he dun goofed up, blames the supers/mutants on it because he's doesn't want to admit that it was his fault alone.
>>69096989
It's not like the ended the movie and a really dour clash of ideals.
Stark wanted to punch Captain Evans for not telling him he knew that Bucky killed his parents.
And in that last scene he's even helping the two of them up until that point.
And then after that he holds up whoever is in charge of them when Cap breaches the sea fort to save everyone.
>>69092909
Does that mean we might get Deadpooland Wolverine?
>>69097023
That's stupid.
It's so stupid that I'll just believe that Marvel actually wrote in a clever twist with the character that won't come to fruition until Infinity War.
>>69097078
What is stupid about it? If someone killed your parents, wouldn't you get pissed?
Of course you wouldn't, you're above human emotion. A being of pure logic.
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>>69097077
>>69094334
So the Avengers are more competent than Superman?
>>69097049
They parted ways with Tony calling Steve a disgrace who wasn't worthy of the shield
And Steve walked away, an international criminal in exile, without that shield.
>>69097127
>>69097127
But that's not the point of the movie, and it shouldn't be the culmination of a fight between the two characters given the context of the movie.
If it was like,
>I'm doing this for Burcky!
>No you can't do this for Bucky!
>Because he killed your parents?!
>Because of principle!
That makes more sense.
>>69097192
Yeah but it's okay because he hasn't seen the movie so they're friends.
>>69097192
It was more like a spat.
>That guy killed my parents and my dad made that shield
>You're siding with him over me I want that shield back
>>69097200
>that's not the point of the movie
The conflict between Steve and Tony that's caused by Bucky isn't the point of the movie? Really?
>>69097243
Not as a culmination to the movie's points.
There's no weight to the final battle.
It feels petty because it is.
>>69096845
They are friends, remember the letter of captain america to iron man?
>>69097325
>It feels petty because it is.
Oh, are we doing the "what are these things 'feelings', hu-mon thing"?
Because if you think that was a petty issue you're either neurologically deficient or a huge fucking idiot.
I have to say Antman and Spider-man made the movie more bearable
Falcon and Bucky shenanigans were also ok
>>69097428
I don't really care about Bucky or Tony's parents.
I care about the costs of saving people, and the struggle between two figures who don't see eye to eye.
Tony doesn't even go through with it at the end. He goes to help them.
Is this Civil War or Revengeance?
>>69097460
Why did Antman and Spider-man decide to help Iron Man?
What were they getting out of it?
>>69097495
Tony goes to help Cap with a bigger threat
not to go back on the accords
>>69097495
>Is this Civil War or Revengeance?
I know which I'd prefer.
STANDING HERE
>>69095963
>>69096013
they really tried to cater to the homosexual audience
