It was announced today that they are turning the Wheel of Time series into a television series.
Time for GoT-fags to experience some real high fantasy.
>>68869751
HOLY SHIT YES
Seriously? Finally some straightforward fantasy instead of this deconstruction shit
Which channel?
>>68869751
Too bad 75% of the books are shit
>>68869751
Source? Who is producing it?
>>68869751
MUH DICK
>>68869898
LOTS proved you don't need good source material to make a fun show. Unless they decide to go the grimdark route to compete with GoT in which case it will be shit
>>68869898
>implying they won't adapt the trilogy everyone likes, a slight amount of the middle fluff and then jump right to the ending.
They aren't going to do 25 seasons of TV, they'll do the highlight moments.
>>68869881
>>68869916
http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-wheel-of-time-is-going-to-be-a-tv-series-after-all-1773693457
None yet.
>get Sanderson to adapt it
>it's only one season and all about the villains
>>68869751
I'm torn I remember starting this series and hating most of the female cast never finished it tho, might give the show a shot
Hope it tanks. What a heap of shite.
>muh worldbuilding
lots =/= good
>>68869751
I couldn't even finish past like 3 chapters of that shit. Same with GoT and LOTR stuff. I fucking love the genre too. But, none of these faggots can write for shit. It is like they styled their pacing from a dictionary.
But, if this is made I hope it is good. Though, I highly doubt they'll fit even that many high lights into it from the books and they will social propagandize them to hell and back. So, expect gender-swapping and race-swapping characters.
>it's a no good guy with more than 10 lines dies prior to the last half of the last book episode
>>68869751
what is this even about?
honestly surprised more fantasy series based on moderately popular book series arent popping up to get those nice GoT sloppy seconds
>>68869751
Didn't they try this once before? I remember some low budget pilot some time ago. It was the Dragon having gone mad and killed his family talking to Shaitan, I believe.
Berserk live action tv series fucking when
>>68870243
It's about the Force- I mean, the One Power, and the struggle between the light side and the dark side- I mean the female side and the male side.
>>68870260
None of them are as good as ASOIAF, including this garbage
I don't want my precious WoT getting any more publicity because it will just attract even more morons who don't have the capability to comprehend the series' utter perfection. Sandersonfags invading the fandom with their massive retardation and poor taste was bad enough. Not this. Please not this.
>>68870517
STFU
Sanderson saved the series from dying
>>68870115
WoT is the definition of a slow starter. The first three books are the most boring cliche shitfests you've ever read. Of the three main female characters, one gets good in book 7, another in book 11, and the third is always trash.
>>68870517
>Utter perfection
I am going to be very generous and say the first six books are exactly that. That leaves 5 shitty books (8 if you hate Sanderson) How is that perfection?
B-but what if it gets the Shannara treatment?
>>68870709
SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP
>>68870572
No, you.
WoT critics are braindead farm animals who bleat memecriticisms they've heard others repeating. They're uniformly too stupid, dumb, and idiotic to understand even the plot-theme of the series. I'm sick and tired of mouthbreathers shitting on great things.
Cancel this series Harriet. You don't have good judgment. You hired Sanderson. You killed Bela. Stop it. Stop ruining a perfect series.
>>68870680
No, it leaves memes grandfathered in from a time when people had to wait 3 years between books and didn't appreciate the pacing. There are no shitty books besides Sanderson's abortions. "Homicide"? "Saidared"? In a serious which previously had a timeless quality? Mormon fucking scum.
Is Malazan Book of the Fallen a better series?
So what channel? I am guessing syfy.
>>68870736
>MTV Shannara fag confirmed
It's too big of a book series.
>>68870243
First two books are LOTR'esque
>>68870791
"Nothing happening" is not an opinion on the pacing, it is reality. And nobody could save the series, Sanderson didn't need to pay attention to the details and dialogue style of a trainwreck
>>68870793
It has better writing, and at least tries to be original instead of ripping off Tolkein and Dune like the hack work that is WoT
>>68870791
Of course Harriet doesn't have good judgement. Look at all the shit she let through serving as Robert's editor. Half of the series is filler waiting for other characters drive the plot.
Elric of Melnibone series when?
>>68870005
>they'll do the highlight moments.
this, show will kick ass
I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT
>>68870351
The people that own it just made that quick on the cheap to retain the rights.
>>68870952
>book of the fallen
>better writing than WoT
nah. better writing than sanderson sure but not better writing than jordan pre-crossroads of twilight
>>68871090
The only thing I care about is the show lasting long enough to see Dumai's Wells. I don't give a shit if it gets cancelled immediately after.
>>68869751
another distressingly white series...
reminder that we need some like lynch or refn or herzog to shoot this masterpiece
>>68870155
There already are those in the books though, they get btfo and it's wonderful
With the success of GoT I expect this will be the norm. We are entering into an age of fanasty kino.
>>68871302
>Aiel
>White
>>68870155
if you think LOTR is badly written you have pretty terrible taste m8
>>68871302
sea folk, sharans and seanchan are all arab/black/indian
>>68871293
I'm sure it will be a big scene.
like >>68870005 said, they'll probably just take the highlight moments from whole series and condense the shit out of it. I think the advantage this has over GoT is the series is finished, they have a chance to properly pace it.
>>68871302
literal shit-skins are one of the main races. The main protagonist is basically half arabic
>>68871507
Rand is White on White bro Aiel are redheads
>>68871662
still shit-skins
>>68870500
>he unironically thinks ASOIAF is good
i've read all the books and if you think its anything but hot garbage you're retarded, it's only interesting because its such a convoluted mess of deaths and twists im interested to see how he ends it, not because its good writing or good story telling
>>68871507
nah, the aiel are ethnically Celtic, but culturally a mix of arabs and native americans.
RJ did this with most of his cultures, such as the Cairhein being a mix of France and Japan, or the Seanchan being imperial china but speaking with Texan accents.
The only one that's really played straight is Andor which is England and the two rivers which is the shire minus small people
But will they keep the spanking in? That's all that matters tbqhf
>>68871838
there so much that can go wrong. If they leave out a single bosom im done
>>68871878
>mfw Rand's harem gets turned into a single person because of SJW shit
>>68869751
Well hopefully it ends up on a network capable of production value like HBO and not syfy or tnt.
>>68870500
Book of the New Sun and The Black Company put ASoIaF to shame. Even Wheel of Time is better than GRRM's shit.
>>68871797
Just looking at asoiaf and wot, which do you think has a better style and which has a better plot?
The question is will they keep Rand's harem?
>>68871958
Rand's harem is easily in the top 5 most cringey things in WoT. Aviendha is retarded mainly because of the tsundere aspect and Elayne is a cunt. Min is one of the few tolerable female characters.
>>68871382
>described as having red and blonde hair and blue eyes almost universally
>not white
tfw no aes sedai to bully you
>>68872197
They're complete durkas in the books m8
>>68869751
>on CW
Fuck off
>It's a /tv/ pretends to hate asoiaf because the show got popular episode
>>68872244
>an aes sedai will never weave flows of air to crush your balls while she's talking down to you like you're a child
CASTING PREDICTIONS START
>Wheel of Time
Oh great, more feminist shit.
>>68872305
Word. I guarantee the Wheel of Time fans ITT will shit on it in 5 years. Unless the show is garbage in which case they'll say it's a shame the show got cancelled.
THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_ts8cPScXM
>>68872305
>>68872406
or it's because everything after season 1 was filled with D&D original OC do not steal plotlines and characters, which replaced superior stuff from the books
I want to spank Rand
>>68872406
This
>>68872470
I want to spank Mat
>>68872445
That in no way affects the quality of the books.
>>68872305
ASOIAF is great. Jaime Lannister is the GOAT fanasty character. Too bad the show fucked that up.
>>68872527
It hurts... ;_;
>>68872282
They're not described as sand niggers physically at all.
Aiel = Celts before being conquered by the English, semi-nomadic lifestyle, Pict warriors.
Andor = Anglo Saxons/British (Elizabethan era)
Cairhien = Ancien Regime French
Tear = Castilian Spain
Altara = Sicilian/Italian
Arad Doman = Pre Islamic Arabs (note the descriptions of diaphanous clothings, and coppery skin
Saldaea = Mongols
Kandor = Cossacks
Arafel = Central Asian Turkic People
Shienar/Malkier = Norsemen
Tarabon = Persians? Kind of weird, they talk about wearing facial veils and women make braided hair with beads in it, but there are blondes with blue eyes in them.
Shara = Africa
Seafolk = Poo in Loos
Seanchan = East Asians
>>68872694
Sea folk are Pacific Islanders, not Indians.
First Law >>>>>>>>>>> Wheel of Shit
Why aren't they adapting that?
>>68870793
Only in the sense that it trusts the reader to not be retarded and rewards the reader if they indeed are not retarded
basically it is not an entry level read
>>68872694
Except their leader was black
Can it pull off being on cable or does it have to be on Premium channels
there is alot of psycho sexual torture in it, and just legit torture
>>68872811
>it's a Chain of Dogs episode
>it's a Karsa gives zero shits episode
>it's a Bridgeburners hanging out episode
There will never be any of these. Ever. orz
wasn't this already a show starring that one bald guy that was handsome in the 90's?
What's so good about it? I mean in particular, what exactly did you like about the books specifically?
From what I read about it it sounds like the most generic fantasy tripe imaginable.
The kind of stuff that diminishes the entire genre.
I always hear people mentioning it as one of the best series fantasy has to offer but they never get into specifics of why it is great and I've never see anyone discuss the story or the lore or even the characters.
>>68872939
that was a Fantastic 4 tier attempt to keep the rights, apparently that shit has been sorted out
>>68872962
it's basically just the most soap opera high fantasy story there is. Not really bad, not really great, but once you start it is a struggle to put it down
it is a frustrating start, but once it gets going it is a wild ride
>>68872962
I just like femdom.
>>68873126
elaborate?
>>68872962
It was a great time sink during my NEET days. It gave me extra nerd cred. The main character is actually pretty enjoyable during the middle when he's paranoid. Another main character is fun after the first few books and until Sanderson starts writing. There are a handful of badass scenes that are magnified by the large amounts of downtime.
>>68872858
Their leader was Rand al'Thor, the Car'a'carn, who's described as having blue eyes, fair skin, and auburn hair.
Or are you talking about Rhuarc, the clan chieftan of the Taardad Aiel who was also described as having red hair, but with a touch of grey at the temples.
Why is he so based?
His own books are better than WoT as well
>>68872879
Hopefully a premium channel, it's not as gritty as ASOIAF, but there's a lot of descriptions of people being scantily clad, there's sex in it, boozing and carousing and fucking tavern wenches, it's just not actual prostitution like in ASOIAF.
Hopefully it gets treated better than Shannara, who got put onto MTV so it's rated TV-14 which pretty much makes it shit.
>>68873269
I think he was talking about the Seanchan since Tuon is black.
Anyone else hyped for 5 episodes of Rand trapped in a box?
>>68870243
it's about pulling braids, licking lips, and worrying about other people. also there's dumbshit magic cow people. amazing.
>>68873384
Wheel of Time could easily work as a TV-14 show. Most of the characters (villains included) are cartoony enough.
in case you niggers are wondering, asians were the first culture to have red hair, so the aiel as asian/middle eastern/mongolian isn't actually that far fetched. never mind the fact that its fantasy
>>68873229
Mat spends an entire book getting raped by a milf Queen. Gentling is a metaphor for castration. Matriarchal society. Everything about Nynaeve. Etc.
>>68873345
>Anime Sanderson
Fuck off with your shit
>>68873521
Are you upset about being cucked by the BBC tower anon?
>>68873414
He'll get captured in the penultimate episode of a season and Dumai's Wells will be the final scene of the season. I never understood the meme of innabox 5ever.
>>68872962
The interesting aspects about it are the elements of reincarnation and time going in cycles (people are reborn over and over again, they might have different names but there are heroes that keep getting reborn that always have certain elements about them that are consistant through rebirth, like Birgitte Silverbow has been known by 100's of names over 100's of lives, but she's always a beautiful woman who wears her hair in a golden braid, is a deadeye with a bow, and likes ugly men), the fact that it may be a post apocalyptic future earth with some of the old stories from the age before the last age being like Len, who flew in the belly of an eagle of fire to the moon (John Glenn), or the giants Mosc and Merk, who fought each other with lances of fire that could reach around the world (Moscow and America)
I also like how they describe the magic system, with its powers being divided into male and female sides and how they work together in links.
>>68873573
I think it's more that afterwards, his Lews Therin voice would flip the fuck out in confined spaces. Which brings up the question of how exactly they're going to do the "voice in my head" shit
>>68873565
>Wheel of Time
>Not anime anyways
At least his books arefun
>>68873641
Just have lews therin standing next to whoever hes talking to, and only he can see him. Make him wear a hood till we find out who he is
>>68873462
I sure hope not. I've been trying to watch the Shannara Chronicles and the fact that they targeted a teenage audience fucks it up horribly.
>Camera angles and arms covering implied nudity
>EYES UP HERE LOL! xD
I just want a proper Dune series, desu.
>>68873623
>men are stronger in fire and earth, women are stronger in air and water
>it's okay though because water and air have their own strengths
>lol jk. every aes sedai will throw fireballs whenever they need to kill something.
>>68873683
this is dumb and cheesy. why not just a voice over? simple.
>>68869751
They're going to fuck it up
I fear it's going to be shit. There will be terrible casting decisions, and even if they do better than expected the characters will not look how you imagined, and their accents will be butchered. Everything will be smaller and drabber than it should be. Everyone will wear the same costumes. The trollocs will look gay (I'm really really hoping they don't fuck up myrdraal). The dialogue will be more obviously terrible with real people saying it. Most of the plotlines, characters and locations will be cut for brevity. And you will hate it by season 5, by which time the wise women will have killed the effete rhuarc and bael (and the rest of the clan chiefs) because 'the aiel will never be ruled by WEAK MEN again'.
>>68873414
Just have one whole episodes that takes place in the box. Pure kino.
>>68873758
most aes sedai in the books do throw fireballs when they need to kill something.
>>68873690
Every Mat scene is "eyes up here XD." Apart from wanting to see tits, there's really nothing that begs for an MA rating. It's not a violent series nor does it deal with grimdark themes.
>>68873912
>An entire hour of Rand and Lews Therin mumbling to themselves in the dark in a fetal position
Fucking fund it
>>68873866
>why not a voice over
it's not talk radio. people need spectacle. have you even seen what happened to GOT?
>>68873955
didn't they have an elaborate sequence where two of the forsaken were using various methods of torture and experimentation on captured Aes Sedai?
>>68873758
>men are stronger individually
>women can link together
>a group of 6 women can overpower a man with linking
>men are required to extend the circle beyond 6.
>circles of 72 used to do incredible things
It gets more interesting.
>>68873927
That's the point I'm making. They first say men and women are good at different things but both things are equally as effective. Then they ignore that and the women default to fire.
>>68874042
Yeah but it's all internal stuff. They just need to scream. Showing actual physical damage would be bad.
>>68874127
>turn a bitches blood to acid
>watch her slowly dissolve and fall apart
das it mane
>>68873955
>>68874042
And that time Fain raped that woman in front of her child that he just turned into a retard. And that time an Aiel army was literally torn to pieces.
But those moments are few enough that I'm sure it could work as a TV-14 show.
>>68874127
didn't they also make a couple of them literally cum their brains out?
>>68874213
One did
Just one
Why don't you know any specifics
This thread sucks
There are no wheel of time experts here except me
>>68874319
fuck off man I read this shit years ago, I'm amazed I remember any of it
>>68874319
some time in the next few years I'm going to make a dank maem out of your post
>>68874369
Same, and most of what I remember is "Holy shit, get on with it"
>>68873703
I hope you only want a series of the first two books. I don't want to watch a season where the majority of characters are omniscient or a child turns into a giant sand worm and becomes a god.
>>68873955
There's gore and sexuality. There is NO reason to make a TV-14 out of it other than to water it down and ruin it.
btw, my predictions are on Starz desu.
>>68869898
Too bad 100% of you is shit
>>68871330
T H I S
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>>68874608
Ah, to me God Emperor of Dune is the focus of the whole series. The first three books lead into it, and the last two expand out from it.
Leto II needed to become the most powerful person in existence, a literal God-Emperor. He deliberately held back and controlled the human species in order to guarantee their survival. Without him humans were liable to stagnate or kill themselves off. But he held a tight grip on humanity until its need to grow and expand exploded. When he died, there was nothing to hold people in and they exploded across the universe in the Scattering (and it's actually implied that they travelled into other universes as well).
Leto II left behind a legacy of tyranny, but he also guaranteed the infinite survival of the human species, though he had to sacrifice his humanity and his life to do so.
It's basically the story of Trump. Or at least that's how I see it.
I just hope there would be a Malazan or The Black Company adaptation in my lifetime.
>>68870240
No one dies. The universe is a cycle of death and rebirth. Even balefire victims eventually are respun into the pattern.
The main characters have literal plot armor and deus ex machina devices. They are reborn heroes and also they are acting out something that already happened before and will again, and also they are ta'veren.
This series is impossible to understand unless you are a 32nd degree mason but you didn't even try, dumb frogposter. You did not even try.
>>68874992
>Even balefire victims eventually are respun into the pattern.
Do you have a single satisfact to snack that up
>>68874663
There's sex and gore but it's not graphic descriptions and the story is an amalgamation of various coming of age and hero's journeys that appeal to a younger audience. It has a very childlike portrayal of politics and tragedy.
>>68872694
Seanchan was a melting pot. Seanchan are described as everything from blond-haired blue-eyed aryans to coal-black negroes.
It was a melting pot because Seanchan was literally America. Hawkwing intended to found a new land,
>not connected in any man’s mind with any old cause or faction or rivalry. Here, he’d build it, at the very center of the land bordered by the seas and the Waste and the Blight. Here, where no Aes Sedai would ever come willing or could use the Power if they did. A capital from which, one day, the whole world would receive peace and justice.
LITERALLY AMERICA.
captcha: rand cindy
>>68874992
>balefire victims eventually are respun into the pattern
uh, I don't think so. The point of balefire is to remove their thread from the pattern completely.
>>68875055
Horse's mouth.
>Ur-WoT superfan John Novak: [Is balefire the eternal death of the soul?]
>Robert Jordan: If someone is balefired, the Dark One can't reincarnate them. But they CAN be spun back out into the Wheel as normal. Balefire is NOT the eternal death of the soul.
http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=3
>it's a nynaeve won't stop tugging on her braid episode
>>68875340
I'm the only WoT expert in this thread
>>68874857
God Emperor truly is the best book in the series. Such a good read.
>>68873623
>they might have different names but there are heroes that keep getting reborn that always have certain elements about them that are consistant through rebirth
Ah so its baby tier chosen one bullshit, dropped.
>>68871384
it reads like the bible, which is quite badly written
>>68875440
What, no.
>>68869751
What is that sword called?
>>68875475
Christfunkler
>>68875342
>authors talking about their series outside of the damn books
fuck this shit, hella gay
>>68873703
Any good Dune artists? I've never seen anyone get Paul right. He's 15 years old and a late developer.
>>68869751
They already had and it premiered at 2AM on some dipshit channel and quickly got canceled.
>>68875475
callandor
>>68875511
RJ was notoriously circumspect and would most often answer fan questions with RAFO (which most interpret to mean "read and find out"), but he also wrote 4 million words of notes and was willing to dish at times if he felt the information wouldn't spoil the story.
>>68869751
>genre fiction
k e k i expect nothing more from this capeshit board
I'm on book fivve and just feel like I need to take break. Is there a point to continuing or should I stop for a bit and come back to it?
>>68875625
plow through it. its super rough. some people say just skip everything after six till the sanderson books.
>>68875280
It's not graphically described as Tyrion touching Shae's nipples and them getting hard no, but it isn't just "Aviendha and Rand kiss, then fade to black" either. It's sex, with description just .. softcore rather than hardcore description.
There's also Trollocs dismembering people and throwing them in cookpots.
I mean, the way I'd see it, Wheel of Time would be rated R, Game of Thrones NC-17 if they were doing it as film rather than TV. But both should be TV-MA.
>>68875527
That was an unauthorized ashcan """pilot""" aired the day before the rights would have reverted from an IP troll company who grabbed the rights cheap when fantasy wasn't considered a sure bet. After lawsuit and settlement it's most likely that NBC/Universal has the rights at the moment.
>>68871244
If you took every example of skirt smoothing, braid tugging, and rand struggling with the source, it'd be its own 1200 page book. How is that good writing
>>68875625
>>68875721
Book five is the best book.
Book nine is the third best book.
>>68875440
Eh.. not really, Birgitte is a skilled archer, but she can die just the same as any other mortal, and does, she gets beheaded.
>>68875782
>900 pages of elayne bathing
>50 pages of anything happening
>best book
>>68875342
That doesn't necessarily mean they're naturally reincarnated with enough time. Perhaps if you balefired someone strongly enough, it would reintroduce anything they had previously balefired, for instanced. In which case it would not be the total destruction of their thread.
>>68875475
Callandor, it's not really a sword, it's made of crystal/glass, it's actually a Sa'angreal, which is kind of a magical focus.
But will they manage to capture Jordan's lesbian and femdom fetishes? This is important.
>>68874076
They wrap people up in flows of air all the time. Women wielders use lightning strikes a lot.
But really, all of the good shit needs all 5 powers. Who really cares about elite tier sisters throwing fireballs once in a while
>>68875878
That is not an accurate description of book five or book nine. Non-expert detected
For those that have forgotten the series, now's a good time to read the brilliant ISAM summaries:
http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/77089-the-wheel-of-time-summaries-by-isam-spoilers-till-book-cot/
Rand: Maybe you could tell me what this is all about.
Moiraine: You will know what you need to know. The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills.
Rand: Thanks.
Egwene: This is scary! Rand al'Thor! You got me into this!
Rand: Gee whiz, Egwene.
Moiraine: Dreams can be dangerous. Have you all had any scary dreams?
Mat: I don't know if we can trust Aes Sedai. Let's keep it a secret.
Rand and Perrin: Good idea
>>68875880
This. Balefire IS the eternal death of a soul.
>>68876028
I hate that guy. It's stupid shit like this that leads to dumb meme threads like this one where the participants aren't experts and don't have any real information about the series but just regurgitate things other people thought rather than having their own opinions.
>>68875281
>tfw we waited so long for seanchan beasts to fight trollocs, and it only lasted a few paragraphs.
>>68875724
I think you're missing the forest for the trees.
It's ultimately young adult fiction and there are things you can get away with in young adult literature that you can't in young adult television.
Take Dumai's Wells, for example. They could just have screams and the sound people make when they explode off screen as the camera slow zooms on Rand's face as he sees the carnage his creations have wrought. I wouldn't see that as watered down.
>>68872694
Seanchan are Texas/Japanese.
>>68869751
Oh boy, I wonder how they'll manage to fuck this one up. Let me guess, terrible writing focusing on petty drama and boring "human story" nonsense. Very little magic. Poorly done and displayed when it happens. Plotlines that go fucking nowhere and suffer immensely from gaping plotholes, etc, etc.
TV a shit. All it does at this point is ruin good things.
>>68872694
shienarans were pretty obviously japanese influenced
you missed murandy and amadicia
>it's a flashback showing the forsaken were actually nice guys that just had one bad day episode
>>68875983
m8 I've read the entire series 3 times. it gets exponentially worse per book past 6
Fuck these books, I could not make it past book 4
how would SJWs react to strong woman Aes Sedai continually getting mind broken, enslaved and corrupted
also just being bitches in general?
>>68874992
>Even balefire victims eventually are respun into the pattern
did you even read the books? the entire point of balefire was that is burnt the thread out of the pattern permanently... hence the cumulative damage to the pattern that egwene fixed with her great weave in the final book
>>68876270
But book seven is an awesome companion to six so I don't understand why any objective reader today would dislike it. Sure, readers at the time had to wait years to a sequel to Lord of Chaos and raged when they got new characters and plotlines instead of the resolution they childishly demanded, but in perspective, boy is book seven entertaining. Cadsuane is one of the best characters in the series despite her late introduction; she's not only great in and of herself but also introduces new angles of conflict which help develop Rand especially as well as other characters. Moridin, which fandom raged over, wasn't even really a new character. Best not to keep propagating old memes from that time. Best to consider the series using your own judgment.
No rational person could dislike book seven. Rand's encounter with Ordeith alone is worth the read, and that's just a small scene. Amazing book, amazing series, no experts here but me.
>>68876363
better than GoT was it rape scenes
>>68876104
I would, and it'd make the show shit for no purpose.
I'm not saying add excess shit to make it more "dark and gritty" but show what the books describe. No more, no less.
to make it TV-14 would be to show less, therefore, making it garbage like Shannara Chronicles.
Here's some homework, watch the Shannara Chronicles and then tell me TV-14 can do WoT Justice.
>>68876413
Do you think that the Flame of Tar Valon weave preserves things in opposition to the balefire weave which destroys? Are Egwene and Taim actually in stasis not dead?
>>68876413
>her great weave
>>68876363
They, and the critic community in general, would probably be more upset with the hard male/female divide. Trans rights stuff wasn't really a thing on Jordan's radar.
>>68876415
When I caught up on the series he was at book 5.
tone down on the autism. 5,000 pages of cadsuane's nagging driving rand deeper into madness isn't good writing.
I hope they bring Sanderson on to write a few eps
>>68876267
>implying mierin eronaille wasn't just a poor misunderstood, tortured soul
>>68876501
tfw they cast a black chick as egwene
>>68876183
I wasn't going to list ALL the cultural inspirations, I couldn't really think of what Murandy, Amadicia, and Ghealdan or Far Madding were inspired by.
The things I listed were just more clear, though sometimes there's multiple influences such as >>68876183
points out that there's some Asian influence to the Shienarans, there's a Bushido like warrior code and they wear their hair in Han Chinese like Topknots.
Sometimes Jordan just put people in places that didn't make so much sense geographically, like the coppery skinned Domani living almost as far north as the Blight, and being somewhat of borderlanders, when they're Arab inspired.
>>68876586
You know damned well half the cast will be non-White and they'll put the jigs in the most incongruous positions they possibly can.
These people think any old fantashit is popular now, when they don't know that gritty fantashit is what attracts people
This is gonna fail (and probably be terrible anyways) Should've went with Abercrombie or Bakker
>>68876479
Shannara Chronicles was shit for all sorts of reason. Watch The Lord of the Rings and tell me TV-14 can't do WoT justice.
>>68876556
The Betrayer of Hope dindu nuffin
He was a gud boy
>>68875474
>>68875866
>not really chosen one tier shit
>WoT
The main character is the Dragon Reborn, a messianic figure who is reborn at the end of every age to break and reforge the world. It's literally chosen one tier shit.
>>68870155
Want honest truth?LOTR is bad until the middle of Fellowship. After that it's all good. GoT is shit until Petyr betrays Ned. So you have to suffer a bit
>>68872029
>The Black Company
So long as you forget about that terrible not India bit
>>68869960
>LOTS
>not good
>>68876527
Woah, whoa, woah! I'm just offering my learned commentary on a series I'm an expert on, no need to resort to autism insults.
I liked Cads after reading book seven but the prequel really amped her up into a top tier character. I'd prefer a Cadsuane outrigger to a Mat/Seanchan one.
>>68876637
>tfw The Seige of Coral will never happen in Imax 3D
Erikson really needs to start sucking producer dick
>>68874992
Sounds gay as shit
>>68876716
Transcribing roleplaying campaigns into books is the lowest form of fantasy. Feist and Erikson should be hanged.
>>68876645
Asmodean was...ok?
>>68874992
Is WoT a masonic fantasy series? How heavily rooted is all of it in freemasonry? Aside from obvious connections.
>>68876637
>Should've went with Bakker
Good God no. Could you really imagine that on screen?
>>68876639
Lord of the Rings had NO sexuality in it whatsoever in the books. It's portrayal of relationships is basically this guy's married to this girl, and these are there children, that's it.
There's also not a lot of violence in it, I mean there's wars and battles, but not a lot of description of gore. There's descriptions of the arms and armor, but that's about it.
>>68876812
feist and salvatore, sure, but for erikson it becomes more of an opera than a game turned book.
>>68876556
Perrin offs Mierin but only after having his life saved by her three times. Rand never did anything but put Perrin's life in danger. His family was slaughtered because of Rand! For the sake of equity, he should have sided with Mierin.
>>68876812
>>>>>>>>> implying /dragonlance/ isn't based as fuck and the progenitor to most modern garbage
seriously
>>68876923
I would have sided with Mierin.
>tfw no qt forsaken to wander the dream world meddling in other people's quests with
>>68876888
RA Salvatore didn't transcribe his roleplaying campaigns into novels.
>>68876966
Weis and Hickman did not transcribe roleplaying campaigns into novels.
Prove me wrong.
>>68876812
Using campaigns for source material worked out pretty well for the Riddick series.
>>68876627
I don't think they will need to do shit like that because there are explicitly different ethnicities in the books, and among some groups like Aes Sedai, Warders, and Asha'men, they are in positions of power.
There's no need to make Siuan Sanche a black woman, not when Leane Sharif, her keeper, is an Arab woman. with coppery skin.
There's no need to force an interracial relationship in the show.. not when there's a canon interracial relationship in the book between a white man, and a black woman (Mat Cauthon and Tuon, the Daughter of the Nine Moons). If they stay faithful to the books there will be plenty of diversity and "progressive" shit.
>>68877017
>weis and hickman did not transcribe roleplaying games...
did you even read the annotated chronicles and legends???
>>68876826
Why didn't Rahvin just use the Power to make himself grow another two inches? I feel like in the Age of Legends that would be pretty easy. Would've solved a hell of a lot of problems too
>>68877051
I asked YOU for proof, not me.
quick question that I've been confused about: During the War of Power, wasn't the Bore fully open? How did the heroes have any chance of success?
>>68877098
I don't have the copies on hand, sue me. They explicitly talk about how they would play the game and then write. They only started adding things that couldn't be done in dragonlance modules for DnD after a few books.
>>68876826
Is anyone else legitimately angry over Asmodean's handling? Best character in the series, killed for no reason, killer unsatisfyingly revealed through the glossary in the final books, notes reveal that Taim was supposed to be Demandred and Asmodean's killer.
>>68877098
here's some proofs chicken
>Who came up with Raistlin?
Raistlin simply appeared during an early playtest session of the first Dragonlance module at my apartment in Lake Geneva. Terry Phillips, a good friend of mine, was playing Raist that night in the game and pulled out all the stops, creating the character fully realized before us. To this day, Margaret remembers Terry as wearing black robes that night -- which, I know for a fact, he was not.
After that -- well, Raistlin belongs to Margaret. I wouldn't dare presume upon that and you would be well advised not to do so as well!
>>68877141
I stand corrected, though I reserve the option to sue you eventually. Not a Dragonlance expert.
So here's the real question...
Who's Aidan Gillen going to play in it?
I'm thinking Rahvin or Asmodean
>>68877190
>Raistlin belongs to Margaret
Anyone else very, very disappointed?
>>68877047
>There's no need
lol
>>68877172
I think he had an interesting and unique perspective. But perhaps we would have tired of him after a couple more books.
>>68876871
The point is that Shannara sucked for the terrible dialog, acting, effects, cinematography, etc. Not because of it's TV-14 rating.
Just have the more violent and sexual moments happen off screen. Like when Rand first fucks Elayne. Shot of her dress falling around her legs, cut to Min and Aviendha blushing and squirming in the hall. That book barely goes into more detail than that anyway. Barely anything is lost. Sex can be implied in a myriad of ways that keeps it appropriate for tone of the story without losing any of the important character moments.
If they manage to get everything else right: the casting, the sets, the effects, the magic, etc, I really don't think a TV-14 rating would be a problem.
>>68876413
INTERVIEW: Nov 21st, 1998 TPOD Signing Report - John Novak (Paraphrased)
JOHN NOVAK [Is balefire the eternal death of the soul?]
ROBERT JORDAN If someone is balefired, the Dark One can't reincarnate them. But they CAN be spun back out into the Wheel as normal. Balefire is NOT the eternal death of the soul. He also made a comment to the effect that even in the absence of balefire, there may be circumstances where the Dark One cannot bring someone back. There was a long line, so I didn't press.
>>68877172
I didn't even read those, how shitty. I always thought he was gonna be one of the reborn ones.
>>68869751
I tried reading this and I got up to chapter 5. The wiriting is seriously bad. Why do people keep telling me this is the best epic fantasy series?
>>68876871
>Lord of the Rings had NO sexuality in it whatsoever in the books
Isn't that a little bit weird? What was JRR up to?
>>68877047
Tuon's not black.
>>68877364
she's very clearly black.
>>68877319
he was balefired so his thread was burned out of the pattern permanently.
>>68877418
" "
>>68877398
Nah
>>68877332
He came from a culture where sex just wasn't talked about. It was considered extremely private
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>>68877443
>>68877323
Bookstores used to give away the first half of tEotW because it guaranteed sales.
>>68870793
Malazan is a better series than WoT, but that doesn't say much. Everyone I know who's read WoT kept reading past book 5-6 because of one character only. Malazan in a vacuum is good, but not spectacular: characters are all over the place, writing is... wordy to put it mildly, world building is fucking awesome and the story isn't neatly explained in a series of expositions so it's hard to fully grasp everything until the second or third book are done.
>>68871958
Writing out Elayne and tsundere aiel bitch would greatly improve the plot. Reading "I don't need to be careful because I'm Homer Simpson! I mean, I don't need to be careful because I'm protected by prophecy!" for like 5 fucking books is rage inducing.
>>68872087
asoiaf first 3 books = wot first 5 books
wot book 6 through 10 are pure garbage
11-12 are better than asoiaf first 3 books
13 is just a one thousand page long fight scene
>>68872305
First 3 books were great. 4 was meh, 5 was shit.
>>68872395
WoT is basically 13 books' worth of "women are dumb and incompetent". Except for like 2-3 of them out of like 100 female characters.
>>68872598
>implying Jaime Lannister is GOAT fantasy character when Iskaral Pust exists
>>68872962
First few books are pretty good. And Mat. Great character.
>>68874928
I don't think Malazan adaptation would work. It'd be like 10 episodes of nothing happens followed by 2-3 episodes of HOLY MOTHER OF GOD HOLY SHIT THIS IS SO FUCKING AWESOME.
>>68877323
When it came out, it was the best there was
Now, it is kinda pointless to read it. Most fantasy these days is much better
>>68877512
Digest responses are cancer.
I don't even care to respond to my post you quoted there amongst 15 others. Fuck you.
>tv show won't have rand with his 10/10 3 wives who fight for his dragon cock because it'd offend female viewers
>>68875350
>it's a thom won't stop blowing out his mustaches episode
>>68877599
Seriously who does this?
Also knuckling foreheads, what does this look like?
>It's a people would actually turn down lanfears sexual advances episode
>>68877485
I'm not sure what that means. Does the series become not shitty at some point?
>>68877483
Not canon. RJ always made it clear when a character was black by describing them as "coal dark". Tuon was just described as dark which he used to describe lot's of people darker than a typically white person. Nynaeve was also descried that way.
This is made clear because Tuon's introduction is very closely followed by Anath's who is black.
>>68877676
You're not one who should find out. Read something else.
>wot before a show based on the farseer trilogy
wew
>>68877682
>"white as default" writing
Problematic much?
>>68877538
As far as epic fantasy goes this series is far better that WOT.
>>68877583
Call them shitlords for erasing aviendhas sand people culture
problem solved
what i remember from these books
>femdom
>hero is edgy CANT CONTROL... THE... POWEERRRR anime protag
>fat sidekick character gets married to a loli pirate during one of the filler arcs
>world map is just the lord of the rings one but flipped vertically
>bad guy executes underperforming henchmen by by crushing them with thorny vines
>>68873967
>have you even seen what happened to GOT?
yeah they're running around in circles wondering where to take a plot that is not pre written for them. It would not be hard to make a character like Lews Therin come alive through a distant, crazy wispy voice that only Rand can hear. That's the easy part.
