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Am I the only one who thinks this looks absolutely fantastic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4TTbcXG1GQ
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GIVUS. US. OSCAR.
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>>68836290
Not at all. It looks incredible.
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django unchained 2?
well that's boring
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Niggers
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I'm pretty pumped OP. I'm hoping it's going to be an accurate, morally gray portrait of the true events, showing that every war comes with atrocities and no one is truly good and that kinda shit. But mostly I just want to see brutal violence desu
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>>68836290
>niggers
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what the fuck is wrong with males? a bunch of cucks, I swear to god.
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WE WUZ FOUNDING FATHERS AND SHIT
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>white child playfully dragging the black child with a leash on her neck
muh dick
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>>68836628
Except it's not tongue and cheek. It really has a lot of potential for laughs.
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>Creator wants it to become the new "Birth of a Nation"
>Creator doesn't realize that, even if it's a dumb racist klan film, that it was extremely revolutionary for film and will never be forgotten.
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I despise white people
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>>68836763
I know that feel.
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>mfw when white people will be a minority by 2050
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>>68836763
>>68836824
I despise sub-humans tbqh. Why do they complain we brought civilization to them?
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>>68836763
success breeds jealousy
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>>68836759

Did you notice how little was said about the centenary, though? We need to fight against attempts to rewrite history. The Birth of a Nation, the first film ever shown at the White House, is part of history, not just film history.

Anyone who hasn't watched it, watch it.
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>>68836893
>implying thats even bait

brownie detected
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>>68836893
Why is it bait? It's deadset true. Practically every human achievement ever has been the result of white genius.
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>>68836290

I would respect this if it was a silent film with tinting and an orchestral score. I would respect it even more if the orchestral score was played live by an orchestra in roadshow engagements. But he's just evoking the past cheaply to advance his own career. DJ Spooky did it better, and Charles Burnett made a better film about Nat Turner.
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>>68836290
So is this taking a jab at the original Birth of a Nation with it's title and subject matter?
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>>68837208

With its title, yes. It's great that the original film still has that power, but it needs to be seen. Last year was its centenary, and it passed without acknowledgment, even though it's one of the most important films ever made. If you care about history, watch it and encourage your friends to.
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>>68837586
I saw it in college in a film history class. It was pretty cool. Crazy how new making movies was and how well this one was done.
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why is every male lead in these movies the same? mlk like
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>>68836290
My wife's son's dad says it'll be good.
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>>68837586
>this will probably be buried under piles of mediocrity and erased from film history by revisionists
They've already started by discrediting Griffith.
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Can black people make a film that isn't about slavery?
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Who /HaitianRevolution/ here? Whitey getting his shit pushed in general.
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>>68838294
>mfw remember history teacher in fucking 7th grade showing us birth of a nation, glory, and dr strangelove
>talked about roles of propoganda and how we or others view current and past events as a point of his class
HOLY FUCK, realizing this , im surprised he wasn't fired
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>>68839434
Haitian Revolution won't get a movie because the world is still profiting from their suffering. Their existence won't be acknowledged until Haiti's a barren rock only good for pitying, at which point their exploitation will be used as political leverage to call somebody or other evil.

The most relevant acknowledgement of Haitian culture that I've ever seen in the media was probably in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, and they were only side missions.

>Tussaint Louverture will never be played by Idris Elba
feels bad man
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Why does it use the name of Griffith's masterpiece?
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>>68839510
>>68839434
allofmymoney.jpeg

I want this so badly.
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>>68836290
Man the new Stomp The Yard looks pretty good.
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Looks like a gimmicky exploitation flick. It likely won't be all that good, but people will bite.
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>>68839564
>Fuck whitey keepin' us down with his propaganda flicks, we'll make our own joint
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>>68836290
>The Birth of a Nation (2016)
Did reboots go too far?
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>>68836677

hahahahahahahaha
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>>68836290
>Kanye track on 19th century slave movie
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>>68839405

dont ask stupid questions

being substandard farm equipment is all they have
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>>68839780
nice bait
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>>68839616

It will win 20 oscars
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>>68839780
>tfw
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>>68839881
I hope they'll make it mandatory viewing in every high school.
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>>68836763
who doesnt
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i cant wait to see whitey get btfo
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>>68839881
I never said the academy wouldn't be among those who bite. If anything I'd expect them to.
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>>68836290
>tfw theyre not actually recreating birth of a nation
>is actually pro-black people

a remake of the original would cause trump to get elected
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Looks better than the original
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It actually looks pretty okay, at the very least technically proficient. Hopefully they don't make it just, "Black men right in killing whitey". But they probably will.
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>>68840389
> "Black men right in killing whitey"
very fun to see desu
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>>68840389
I'm not too familiar with the actual events, but didn't the slaves instantly retreat instead of fighting? Also I thought Nat hid under a rock for several months after his rebellion was put to an end.
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Trailer looks very well-shot. I think there's a lot of potential with Nat Turner's slave rebellion as a film and look forward to seeing what they do with it, even though I fundamentally disagree with the choice of the film's title.
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>>68836677
>morally gray
>When it comes to slavery/world war 2 in movies
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>>68840903
how is slavery morally gray?

how are nazis not the worst pieces of shit that have existed?
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>>68840957
Cause there is more than two sides of a story when it comes to slavery you dumbo, not all slaves were treated bad, a lot of black people in the US were also drifters going from farm to farm to work and earn a few coins.

Oh, so Nazis were bred during WW2 to be fullgrown men that only knows hate, and had no internal conflicts of action unlike any other soldier from other countries or non-nazi soldiers in germany.

But you're probably just shitty bait
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>>68840587

They murdered women and children then retreated into the wild and hid like dogs

Thats why they are so idolised today, they are true heroes
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>>68836827
Considering how the census regards Arabs, they probably already are.

>As of the 2010 census the population of Dearborn was 98,153. The racial and ethnic composition was 89.1% Whites, 4.0% black or African-American, 0.2% Native American, 1.7% Asian, 0.2% Non-Hispanics of some other race, 4.0% reporting two or more races and 3.4% Hispanic or Latino.[14]41.7% were of Arab ancestry (categorized as "White" in Census collection data).[15]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dearborn,_Michigan
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>>68840957
The more you guys pretend to be retarded SJW's to troll people the more the real SJW's will come to 4chan thinking they fit in
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>>68836290
Looks like shit tbqh
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>>68837010
Civilization literally started in Mesopotamia
a.k.a shitskin land
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>>68836827
2020-2030 around that time hunting whiteys will be a national sport
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>>68841059
I think it's still pretty clear from this place's reputation and general attitude towards everything that most people don't fit in here. It's weird going to other forums or whatever after posting here, you get desensitized to stuff like nsfw-posting, open hostility towards other site users and the general unpleasantness of it all.
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>>68840957

How is slavery not morally gray

Africans ensalved each other

We bought them

Eventually gave them freedom even when slavery was still alive and well in africa

their decedents are objectively the best off black people in the world

I get it was bad but anyone with an objective mind knows it was the best thing to ever happen to modern day african americans

if shaq was born in africa he would of probably been chopped up into medicine or burned as a witch or some shit, but because his ancestors were taken as slaves he is a literal multi millionaire with a fish tank worth more than an average white guys house
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>>68841147
Yeah, but the ironic /pol/ boogeyman that get brought up in every thread, on almost every board, is getting really tiresome it's like the newfags arriving posting tdkr memes to try and fit in
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>>68841147

This place is a den of faggotry and autism but it's still so fucking awesome compared to every other cucked to shit forum on the internet.

Like I can do anything from imply you should die in a fire to call you a kike here. On Steam or whatever, some cuck would come in and shut that shit down for his hot pockets.

I still like this place, in spite of everything.
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>>68836827

on earth maybe
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>>68841186

Good goyim those dirty Nazis are just virgin neckbeards
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>>68839510
>Haitian Revolution won't get a movie because the world is still profiting from their suffering.
There's nothing they have that anyone wants.
>Their existence won't be acknowledged until Haiti's a barren rock only good for pitying,
Until? They're already there.
>at which point their exploitation will be used as political leverage to call somebody or other evil.
Haiti's suffering has always been Haiti's fault.
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>>68841220

There are too many moderators and janitors here, and those fucking faggots can get raped in the face if they're reading this but still I like this place.
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>>68841249
The "pretending to reverse what I said" is pretty old as well pham, virgin neckbeards or not doesn't really change if they're right/wrong or smart/dumb.

But I doubt that any /pol/ regular actually looks handsome though tbqh
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>>68841251
>>68839510
>>68839434

>thinks niggers can win the race war

These are people who can't even raise children
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>>68836406
After that BLM shit at the Oscars, one year after the Oscars sucked off 12 Years a Slave?

No.
White guilt is waning.
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>>68841428

>white guilt is waning

I hope this is right.
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>>68836763
The move to fucking brazil, china or south africa.
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>>68840957
>how are nazis not the worst pieces of shit that have existed?
>Nazis
>the worst

There's been far worse.
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>>68841428

Even the way they handled the whole "muh nigs" bit turned a lot of people off.

>be euro
>watch the oscars
>there's like an hour of some random nigger being annoying
>the winners don't have enough time to give their speeches
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never heard this movie
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>>68840957
You should've seen Russia in WW2, they don't get as much shit though because political reasons
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>>68841504
>Turks
And nothing of value was lost.
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Looks well-shot and well-acted, but up its own ass and self-righteous, which is typical of slave biopics these days. Upper class blacks like to wallow in their history. Makes their current accomplishments that much more impressive to them.

Probably will be between 12 Years a Slave and Selma in quality.
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>>68841251
>Haiti's suffering has always been Haiti's fault
I must look like the biggest Haiti apologist/actual Haitian on this site because of how often I seem to defend them. I looked at this stuff in school, Napoleon fucked the country irreversibly when he took away the revolution's leader and the engine driving the formation of a new country purely to fuck with them. With him gone all the old infrastructure hadn't been rebuilt so all they had was the military that was set up to HELP the French in their war against the coalition, because Louverture was willing to put slavery aside to help the founders of modern Haiti, because he actually bought into the revolutionary ideals of freedom and fraternity and all that far more than Napoleon ever did.

With him gone it was natural that whichever asshole in the military was vicious enough would put himself in charge and then serve himself because the country wasn't good enough for anything else yet and only Louverture could have built it up properly.
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>>68841619

You're positioning 12 Years a Slave as the good one there, right? Selma was garbage. Jesus Christ that script was fucking embarrassing.
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im getting real tired of this "only white americans ever used slavery" meme
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>>68841655
Yes. 12 Years A Slave was a damn good movie. Not as good as the Oscar cocksucking it received, but still pretty good. It was realistic but still had nuance to it. It wasn't just "black people good white people bad", which is what Selma was. Selma was awful, which is really too bad because David Oyelowo could've been a defining MLK.

Ava DuVerney is as racist as a person can be.
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>>68841619
>well shot and well acted

There is nothing special about the shot selection or film craft. It's marketed like some grand epic, but this is a deeply emotionally story told by an averagely-made film. It'll do fine.
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>>68841817
k, i admit i didn't finish the trailer. i just don't care. it looks pretty and the performances were convincing.

>deeply emotional story told by an averagely-made film

summed it up right there. it'll still get way more accolades than it deserves to show everyone that the Academy cares about diversity, lest their money get fucked up.
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Is this about the KKK or something?
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>>68841960
Wouldn't you like that so you cant trend it on twitter or something you libcuck
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>>68842005
POO IN LOO
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>>68836290
why exactly does Hollywood feel the need to tell a story about a bunch of black people killing a whole bunch of white people and then getting killed for killing those white people? that's really going to improve tensions between hood nigs and police

bravo Hollywood, another story that was drilled into our heads in Middle/High School that apparently desperately needs to be retold
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>>68842005
D E S I G N A T E D
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People who still watch white guilt movies are idiots. Havent seen 12 years and wont see this. Get fucked race baiters
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>it's ANOTHER SLAVE MOVIE

holy fucking SHIT how much white guilt does a nigga NEED?
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>>68842150
why do they shit on the earth
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>>68842290
GLOBAL SUPERPOWER BY 2020
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Remember that the Confederacy was Israel in America

Jews were behind the slave trade, and the Confederacy was their last kike gasp. The Confederate Secretary of State and Jefferson Davis' closest advisor was a Jew. The slave trade itself was just a way for Jews to enslave predominately Christian and Muslim peoples

Nate Turner was a hero, as was the uprising in Haiti and Lincoln. They put an end to the Jews attempt to establish Israel in the Western Hemisphere.

The original KKK were thus Jewish proxys despite their modern anti-semitism. Birth of a Nation 1916 was Jewish trash
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>>68842168
12 years was worth it for the rape scene and Paul Dano's Nigger song.
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>>68842404
>Nelson Mandela
>Not a racist massmurderer like Breivik
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>>68842404
What a baity image
Must not reply seriously to it
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>>68842043
It's an old idea that Jews would use blacks in full or in part to fight their culture war. There's a partial answer for you. Blame the malcontent jewish communists.
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I like it when /tv/ tries to trigger the politically incorrect but goes a full 360 degrees when the banter arrives from the other end.
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>>68841540
Fucking this. Nazis are demonized due to a campaign of propaganda during the war in favour of the allies that just never really lost steam and the Jewish lobby in America kept pushing. Then Israel was created and they backed that up.

Eastern and Central Europe is rife with stories of Russian/Soviet induced brutality for no reason other than pure keks. Revolutionary groups like the Forest Brothers from all over, Belarus, Estonia, Yugos and shit kept getting their asses handed to them. Even the Afghani Mujahideen though more people know about that because of fucking MGSV..

Nazi is bad but Soviet is worse. Fuck Pierogi.
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>>68842503
There was some hearsay that Malcolm X and Black Panthers had some involvement with them afaik, not sure if I can back that claim up though.
Same thing with MLK
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>>68840957
>nazis worst pieces of shit
>didn't even commit the largest killing of the century
>killed less Jews than the Bolshevik Jews did Russians
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>>68842557
Russia got nukes and not the best relations with US, Germany got Merkel, I mean guess who they will diss publicly
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>nigger movie made by niggers starring niggers to pander to BLM niggers

Explain to me one reason I should watch this bullshit.
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>>68842547
BLEACHED
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Does anyone else agree that black Americans are the worst pieces of shit to ever exist in human history even worse than terrorists and Nazis?
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>>68842623
Italy and Germany are white countries that ousted banks, criminal organizations and secret societies. That's the reason they have to be hated. I can't wait till people can talk about Hitler like they can Napoleon.
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>>68842709
Did you get culturally enriched by them recently? That's a pretty incorrect statement though
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>>68842733
How are niggers being lower than dogshit an incorrect statement? You must be a nigger.
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>>68842774
Just remember /tv/ is pozzed beyond help.

This is the board with the highest total hours committed to consuming the Talmudvision's lies.
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>>68841504
>Dad surrenders to Turks and sells you and your brother away to some smelly, perv sultan
>Suffer years of sexual abuse on a regular basis
>By the time you're adults, your brother is a gibbering wreck with a serious case of Stockholm syndrome, and even converts to Islam
>You, on the other hand, return to your rightful kingdom with years and years of pent-up anger and an unquenchable thirst for revenge
>You favored method of execution is a literal metaphor for anal rape
>History ends up calling you the monster
pretty gay, tbqh
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>>68842709
I think you should just go with "Africans" in general. What a fucking stain of a continent, the only people who could live well there weren't even black and they were thriving. Arabs in the north and whites in the south growing basically 100% of the continent's crops. Well until Mugabe.
African Americans are terrible too. Their ancestors could have left to found Liberia like other slaves. Then they could have enslaved the native Africans and treat them worse than European slaves. They're not satisfied with living in one of the best systems in the world, they want to tear it down just to accommodate them.
Can you imagine how successful America would be without those literally entirely useless pieces of trash?
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>>68842733
This anon is going to reply to you no matter what you throw at him. Just watch.
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>>68842806
>pozzed
Go back to TNE, faggot.

Oh, wait.
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>>68836290

no one wants to hear made up magic nigger fairytales

go play basketball boy
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>>68842843
>TNE
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>>68842625
It's disgusting. Even the fucking Japanese had a department dedicated to chemical/biological warfare and human experimentation. A room full of mini Josef Mengeles who did shit like split pregnant women open without sedation, while alive AND infected with various disease they cooked up just to see what the fucking happened to your organs in those situations, like some morbid "JAPS REACT" youtube video.

And they granted immunity by the US because who gives a fuck. I want a movie where you see WW2 from all perspectives both Allies and Axis, great and horrific.

For every American saving a french child from a burned-out town, I want to see an American raping a French waitress in the liberated areas. For every Soviet fighter writing home to his Babushka I want to see a commissar systematically execute enemy children. For every Jap trying his damndest to eke out a life in shitty tokyo, I want to see one guy indoctrinated so hard about the Emperor's Divinity that he throws his mother into a fire in the hopes of pleasing the spirits of his Ancestors to allow him a good Kamikaze run.
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>>68836827
Go back to your containment board
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I'm not going to watch this movie. It will just be UNO FARTO part two.
But anyway /tv/ is like a cuckoldry subreddit. Kek
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>>68840903
What about Inglorious Basterds?
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>>68843004
It's a movie, by quentin, to entertain people, it's not a factually correct documentary you dummie
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>>68843047
I'm just saying, it SEEMS to portray WW2 in a morally grey way.
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>>68843004
Not him but Inglorious Basterds was a caricature. I'll give it to Tarantino, he does like to skirt around the real issues and touch very briefly on them (not all slaves were innocent/slave owners bad or not all nazis were evil) but his aim is to provide good over-the-top entertainment not delve into genuine historical issues.

It's still possibly the most morally grey WW2 movie, as sad as that is to say. Full Metal Jacket is for Vietnam but the yanks aren't portrayed very well neither.
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>>68843081
No, it really doesn't, like really really doesn't
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>>68843105
The Jews are violent idiots and the Nazis are relatively likeable.

And the theater scene seems to imply that the Nazis and the viewer are not that different.
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The director's black too. Say hello to 20 pity oscars next year lads.

The world needs more movies that challenge this bullshit notion that ALLIES ANGELS, AXIS DEVILS. People need to be shown that humans are capable of both good and bad, otherwise we are facing the seeds of a society that forces you to pay for even PERCEIVED problems (like the Yale University shrieking girl)
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>>68843374
>like the Yale University shrieking girl
You mean this one?

https://youtu.be/zHKmYCCX4_w
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i would rather watch a movie about nazis again 2bh
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>>68841220
>>68841147
I told the (actually) autistic admin of celebtop to go fuck himself directly because of this.

Guy runs a celeb nudity jerk off site and thinks I'm not going to call Emma Watson a dumb bitch and himself a faggot cuck for white knighting for her or make fun of his retardation when he goes full "muh mental illness"?

Better to be a cunt here than a faggot elsewhere.
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>>68843951
Nope, it's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ZVEVufWFI

Spoiler: She was on the board that hired the guy.
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>>68843154
Tarantino actually thinks the "confederate flag" is the American swastika.

And that all confederates did was apparently shoot niggers or talk about how much they hated niggers.

The cinema scene in Basterds more showed that he didn't know exactly what he was doing.

portray a single nazi soldier as relatable then have every other nazi be an evil caricature.

specifically say violence in movies is fun and not the same as violence in real life then try to do some shaking the finger at the audience shit like them watching his movie is the same as Nazi's celebrating the deaths of actual soldiers?
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