Have they really gone off-script from the GRRM books?
I couldn't tell.
Yeah I wouldn't be one bit surprised if this was something GRRM wrote
Who cares? The show already has its audience. They could do whatever they want.
>tfw russian subtitles saved me from this horrible dialogue
>>68761924
You could literally hear the laugh-track they were dying to splice into the show at that point.
Eh. I laughed. The show has long since lost any hope of being a good drama so it might as well pivot to comedy.
Was it a Conan reference?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP2GMyQdw78
It's fanfiction now
>>68762120
Well, I am ashamed to admit, but I found the jokes funny too. They weren't so cringy as Sand Snake lines and they fit the situation, It wasn't like they arrested someone crucially important.
>>68761924
>Oh no, they injected some comedy into muh grimdark fantasy drama! Dropped!
Fuck off.
The fact that this scene pisses bookfags off so much makes me love it even more.
This part would have been a really bad Xena episode and still it wasn't the worst part of the episode (you can't really compete with the sneks in being shit, tbqh)
This scene felt like THRONE MOVIE from the Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer duo.
Seriously, the actors, the set, the dialog-it's perfectly terrible.
episode seemed to be perfectly written
for an adult audience
>People pretending GRRM is a good writer
>>68761924
>Father, into your hands I commend my spirit
>Father, into your hands
>Why have you forsaken me?
>In your eyes forsaken me
>In your thoughts forsaken me
>In your heart forsaken me, oh
>Trust in my self-righteous suicide
>I cry when angels deserve to die
>In my self-righteous suicide
>I cry when angels deserve to die
>>68761924
he looks like he's carrying a tiny grandma on his chest (his beard ball is an old lady's hair) in those kangaroo-chest baby thingies
>>68762372
DELETE THIS
GAME OF THRONES IS MY ENTIRE LIFE
>>68762250
>warrior makes quip about "he didnt die so good"
>actually funny
>non-canon Dothraki makes social commentary to appeal to fat bitches
Ok lad.
>>68762416
i see it now, nice one
>>68762399
no one knows that song anymore grandpa
>>68761924
>inb4 the the other 4 are
>slapping her around
>reaping in every hole
>getting her to make you a fucking sandwich
>chocolate milk
Why does the show uses more and more generic tropes as it goes on???
>I am Daenerys Stormborn of the house Targaryen blah blah blah
>Am guessing this is the part where they all laugh while looking at each other
>They do
>>68761924
This scene was funny.
Like straight from HIMYM or shit like that.
People have a problem with this?
Not the entire fucking Dorne plot going haywire and burning in the pits of hell?
>>68762632
Yeah this was a really obvious trope.
On the other hand the chit chatting with the Dothraki was enjoyable, Imean it could've been a lot worse.
>>68762372
>like a constipated at man straining to shit
Holy shit people actually read this?
this was made into a big budget tv series?
>she looks dumb
>she doesn't need to be smart for me to fuck her in the ass
>I wonder if her pussy hair is white too?
What did they mean by this?
I really didnt mind the dotraki banter. They were always kind of "dudebros" and I was mildly amused. But the Daenerys plot walks in circles all the time. Adding self-ironic quips ("we are not going to vesteros anytime soon") doesnt make it clever or more interesting
>>68762708
they probably didn't think she was smart, i think they also were curious about the color of her pubic hair
>>68762708
they meant what they said you stupid idiot
jesus i hate this retarded meme fucking halfbrained morons on /tv/
>>68762708
>Do my arms look fat in this dress
What does she mean by this?
>>68762372
>her cunt became the world
>>68761924
what will happen to her now? we she get saved by dragons again?
>>68761924
>What have D&D ever done for us?
>well, there was the Bobby B and Cersei discussion in S1
>yes, well OBVIOUSLY the Bobby B and Cersei discussion in S1, that goes without sa-
>and the Fookin Legend, that wa-
>yes, and the Fookin Legend, of course, true, bu-
>and Hardhome, there was Hardhome, too
>YES WELL OK but apart from Bobby/Cersei, the Fookin Legend and Hardhome... what have D&D ever done for us?
>>68761924
I honestly thought this scene made a point about how this guy is clearly no Khal Drogo, his riders are willing to say shit like that.
We should really remember Drogo was THE hot shit, everyone thought he was gonna fuck everything. He's like Temujin and everyone else are just plebs.
>>68762793
>>68762915
What did they mean by this?
>>68762708
>she doesn't need to be smart for me to fuck her in the ass
And yet, in a desert environment, in a culture with no apparent body of genuine medical knowledge, he'd be quite stupid to fuck her in the ass. Even with the most thorough prepping, the risk of serious infection is prohibitively high.
>>68763002
>le Fooking Legend
>good
>>68762179
My thought aswell, but since it had no tension or anything worth mentioning in the way of acting beside blandness it jut fell flat.
Compare to AAANNuuuLD (even the faggot who gets the answer wrong has the same mustache)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PQ6335puOc
>>68761924
That's so fucking bad dialogue. Completely anachronistic
>>68763117
dwi fag
>>68763179
>anachronistic
That's all the dialogue in the show. Nothing anyone says is period appropriate.
>>68762120
When a serious show jumps the shark, comedy is the only way out.
>>68763179
>anachronistic
>fantasy setting
This is like complaining that magic isn't real.
>>68763200
I dont even know how old the word is, but the usage of "pussy" seems especially out of place
>>68763200
I guess. But this one definitely stands out
>le top listing relatable horse man
>>68763230
well it clearly is supposed to mirror medieval europe. fantasy doesnt mean that anything goes
>>68763254
>complaining about the wording of the subtitles
Jesus Christ.
>>68763300
>bad pussy
>>68763230
That's right, anon. It's exactly the same. It's fictional so anything goes.
>>68763298
>well it clearly is supposed to mirror medieval europe
And they're clearly fucking the dog big-time, because there wasn't any magic in medieval Europe.
>>68762179
Seemed like it, which is dumb since the Conan speech is itself a reference to Genghis Khan.
>>68763300
>subtitles of a made up language
Hell the subtitles should show off every cultural nuance of the language then.
and not
>mmm gimme dat white pussy
>>68763363
well it's fantasy
>>68763351
No, you're right, anon. The subtitles should reflect a medieval-European equivalent of a contemporary Mongol vulgarism for 'vagina'. Anything else is sheer hackery.
>>68761924
>Let's have more dothraki rape fantasy scenes
And thus the cyclical never ending GoT soap opera is born
>>68762030
hello to the guy with the russian subs
>>68763382
>'cultural nuance'
Yeah, sure. Or, the subtitles should be in language the viewer is familiar with, so that they can correctly characterise the intentions and attitudes of each speaker. A form of 'translation', if you will.
>We are not here to feed you... we are here to KILL YOU!
What did they mean by this?
>>68762708
Why weren't they discussing how best to use all of that blubber?
>>68763456
Flipping between modern and archaic registers is completely fine and doesn't make dialogue any less believable. Thank you, anon. I now understand that being a fantasy writer means you can completely disregard consistency.
>>68763578
They are bad at cooking
>>68763475
>dothraki rape fantasy scenes
Dothraki are so fucking tame.
>>68763547
Its not from german, i can accept a blunt translation from that. Now its a language that the writers themselves have made up.
>>68761924
I for on welcome the return of quality 80s dialogue.
> What is this?
> Bĺue light.
> What does it do?
> Turns blue.
> I see.
>>68763002
Irrigation?
>>68762982
>It'll happen at the end of the episode
>cut to black
>"Dragon roars"
>credits
Mark my words.
I think spartacus did it best by going all out shakespeare with the dialogue
>>68763613
No, again, you're quite correct. Composing a syncretic patois drawing from multiple time periods both requires less effort and less grasp of language, thus denoting complete lack of either competence or commitment.
You don't like it. Fine. You don't like it. Stop pretending it's this objectively awful indicator of buffoonish ineptitude. It's just a choice that didn't work for you.
>>68763705
The point isn't what language they're translating from, but how they're going about the translation. If they actually did what people ITT seem to be clamouring for, very few people, including the people ITT making the fucking complaints, would actually be understand the subtitles.
The criticism amounts to being annoyed that the subtitles aren't parroting the kind of pseudo-medieval creole common to many medieval and medieval-fantasy settings. Sorry, but I just can't sympathise. Both the show and the books have always tended to deviate from that lazy, reflexive received vocabulary, and all the fucking better for it.
>>68762030
>Also have russian subtitles
>Accurately predicted the whole conversation
how the fuck she not raped to death by now?
>>68763872
Nerds don't understand language, news at 11.
If they did we wouldn't see so many people get mad when people use academic definitions rather than layman ones.
>>68763363
Even Martin himself has said how there needs to be set rules in a fantasy universe.
I think he said something about "people walking on their hands"
>>68763547
>the subtitles should be in language the viewer is familiar with
this is the worst and you'd know that if you were from a country that doesn't have english as it's native language and where programs are usually subbed.
I'd take a literal word to word translation any day of the week over some shitty translation trying to be witty or some shit.
>>68762372
>It looked as though he had a dagger up his butt
This is the American Tolkien.
>>68764075
I don't think you're quite understanding me. 'Dothraki' isn't really a language, m8, and if it is, it's almost surely just a phonetic recoding of the native language of whoever invented it.
The criticism of the subtitles is (and I don't think I'm being unfair to it): People in medieval fantasy settings don't talk like that
My response has simply been to say that a) so what, that's not an actual rule and b) it's especially ridiculous to be criticising the language by the wording of the subtitles, when the whole point of subtitles is to translate them into something the reader can comprehend.
Sorry if you live in one of those loser non-English-speaking countries, but it ain't my problem and it's got nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Next time try harder to get born somewhere good.
>>68762372
Is there a quiz like "Who wrote it, GRRM, Stephenie Meyer or E. L. James"?
This needs to exist.
>>68763624
>a couple of women can't cook
>decide to genocide all men in GoT's Spanish kingdom
how redpilled can someone get? Feminism BTFOd
>>68763002
Bobby/Cersei was ok at best, Fookin legend was just as embarrasing as the most embarrassing shit in this episode and Hardhome was one of the stupidest episodes of last season.
Before you go to Tywin/Arya, yes, that was stupid too.
>>68762399
Cool taste, oh Anon of Mighty Numbers!
>>68765489
Nah, they were all at least OK and in some cases, legitimately good, especially Tywin/Arya. Knew I was missing something.
I won't hear a goddamn word said against the Fookin Legend. Some day he'll return and be paid seven silvers for every unbeliever.
>>68762372
>I am the storm, my lord. The first storm, and the last.
This was funnier than I thought it would be.
>>68761924
He literally did an Office-like stare into the camera.
>>68762372
Explain how any of these lines are bad.
>bruh top 5 things bruh
fucking chads
>>68762372
It's fantasy, for fuck's sake.
Read Melville or Yeats if you need "good writing", you snob.
>>68762372
>Darkstar
Darkstar the Hedgehog?
>>68762372
>(lmfao)
There's no way that one is actually real.
>>68766882
>implying fantasy cannot be well written
go and die in a fire
this scene reminded me of BLACKED
>>68762030
same here. I couldn't give less of a fuck about Danny's storyline
>>68763597
Hehehehe that's the real dialogue
>>68762372
>like a constipated fat man straining to shit
>this perfectly describes george rr martin in 2016
>>68762372
>bookfags will defend this shit and pretend it's better than the show
>>68761924
they should go full anime and made a hot springs episode, (Blu ray exclusive)
>>68762030
>am thankful for based Russians for allowing me to deny the Jew the shekels they seek for distributing GOT garbage
>>68770275
Actually this is beyond the books at this point. No one knew what would happen to dany.
>>68770489
first leaked copy of s6e1 was a russian one with russian subs for the dothraki translation.
Did anyone else think the khal looked like a cartoon character kinda. I think it's the eyes
>>68770275
It is objectively better than the show. Not sure what kind of prose you are expecting from gore and sex scenes, but if you believe good writing = never use vulgar language and always use flowery, drawn out descriptions, then you are as retarded as the pathetic /lit/ nerd who made that image.
>>68770438
Dany convinces the dothraki to join her. Jorah probably gets himself killed in the process. They go back to Meereen, the Ironborn provide ships, Dany enters Westeros through Dorne and then its Dany/Ironborn/Dorne vs White Walkers.
And to be honest this fanfiction is probably not too far from the truth.
>>68770961
Because sometimes its vulgarity for the sake of vulgarity. Describing a boat as sounding like a fat man straining to shit is only evocative of a disgusting image which isnt appropriate when describing something as simple as a creaky boat. DnD arent much better with that awful bad pussy line.
>>68763363
Why are you on this board if you dont even understand something as basic as suspension of disbelief?
>>68761924
felt like a Monty Python skit.
I don't see the problem, the scene is setup as Dany meeting a khal, there's no temple or any shit like that. They're just chilling in a tent after walking for miles in the desert. This isn't Shakespeare in a forest
>>68763114
They're stupid horseniggers who probably don't understand disease. When they rape women in the ass, contract some illness, and die from it, they probably just think it's the horse god calling then to Night Lands for a great battle.
There is like 5 threads about got right now
Can't you faggots use one instead, holy shit
>>68771191
Why are you taking part in discussions when you don't understand sarcasm?
Autists: BEEBUL IN MEJEEVIL DIMES DIDDEN DALK LIEK DAT
>people in mediaeval times didn't have access to magic, either
Autists: BUD DE SHOW IZ MEND DO BE LIKE MEJEEVIL DIMES
>i know, right? and yet there's all this magic stuff happening, fucking hacks.
Ya see? I'm the one arguing FOR suspension of disbelief. The autists are indulging their neurological deviations.
>>68771551
Welcome to /got/ season senpai.
Can't wait until the season is over, fuck.
>>68771465
Overheard in the Vaes Dothrak:
>what did your khal die of?
>it was the galloping shitdick that got him in the end
>mine too, that's we-
>did someone say "galloping shitdick"? that's not funny, my khal died of galloping shitdick
>OK, did anyone's khal NOT die of galloping shitdick?
>[silence]
>>68762328
>THRONE MOVIE
>starring EMELIA CLARKE from GAME OF THRONES and TERMINATOR GENISYS
>>68763872
He's talking about the inconsistency of the language in the Dothraki translations on the show. Compare the banter from this past episode to the sparse simplistic one level above grunting way of getting their point across they utilized in Season 1 before you start talking about composing a syncretic patois you pretentious fuck.
>>68771660
>>68771551
You faggots can start by filtering threads which contain /got/ or game of thrones in the title/op. That'd go a long way. Or you could just ignore things which don't interest you and move on, you know, like a normal person.
>>68762372
>The sight of their arousal was arousing
Holy fucking shit. I was told the worst thing about the books was the apparent pages worth of food descriptions. This is the quality when he's not writing about food?
>>68762915
>jesus i hate this retarded meme fucking halfbrained morons on /tv/
me too, maybe one day they'll learn to ignore posts instead of replying to them
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/04/25/game_of_thrones_premiere_the_red_woman_the_worst_person_in_westeros_is_all.html
>Alistair Thorne
> those terrible northerners are rapists, murderers
Not /pol/, but I mean, we've literally seen some of the actual wildlings literally murdering smallfolk. If you want to disagree, do so on the basis that it's better to let them in than to let them become wights. There's no point pretending they're highly cultured gentlemen.
>he points out that she is literally meat and her body should thus be fed to the hounds. Even for Ramsay that’s pretty low
>his one friend, partner in crime, and longtime lover was not a person to him but a fleshy object
He also vows revenge a thousandfold. So he's not big on funeral rites - how is that 'the worst'? How is it even especially low for a serial rapist who hunts women to death? How are we meant to really give a fuck about Myranda when she was the same?
>a handful of men (and boys!) finally get what’s coming to them at the hands of a group of marginalized women
>for now she felt heroic
Yaaaay they murdered a teenager! Having previously murdered his teenage fiancee! Girl power! This is fetishising depictions of female agency well past any reasonable point.
>Even Daenerys only manages to avoid being sexually assaulted again because she was assaulted by a different guy in the past.
Sigh. It wasn't rape.
>Melisandre, whose reveal as an old crone was a great misandrist twist and another total reversal of the way Game of Thrones typically treats women’s bodies.
The intention is that we be horrified. The tropes of women as deceptive, untrustworthy and manipulative are clearly invoked. Her true character is revealed to us through her physicality, thus maintaining and reinforcing, rather than subverting, the objectifying male gaze.
These people are very, very bad both at critiquing television and at being feminists.
>>68771764
Are you sure it doesn't reflect Dany's increased familiarity with the Dothraki language?
>>68762372
>Here is the infamous line
>shows a picture with writing too small to read
>>68762372
Old man can't write smut worth shit
>>68771829
> I was told the worst thing about the books was the apparent pages worth of food descriptions
they were talking about American Psycho
>>68771889
Can Dany see the subtitles? Just stop and realize your verbosity doesn't equate to superiority.
>>68771853
Stop reading slate, salon, avclub any sjw site.
Shit there used to be a list of all these sites.
>>68771996
>Can Dany see the subtitles?
If they're meant to reflect her understanding, then in a sense she can, yes. Haven't you ever seen that done?
>>68772033
I don't read their TV section shit, anyway. It's just that someone linked it. Old thread 404'd while I was typing.
>>68771722
Your post reeks of reddit. Its time for you to go back there
>>68772098
You're a fucking moron. There was no progression from barbaric grammar to borderline modern American colloquialisms based on Danyrys' comprehension of the language.
>>68772198
>things are true because i say they are
OK.
>>68762372
>Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins.
that line is pretty cringy desu
>>68772170
Your post reeks of being a faggot. It's time for you to die of the galloping shitdick.
>>68772268
Humbert goes full nuts over Lo. Tryhards think that just because Nabokov was a brilliant stylist, anything written by a character in one of his novels must be great writing.
>>68762372
Come on guys, he wrote that in 20 minutes.
>>68772297
wow much edge such meme xDD. Ur learning le epic 4chan culture liek a boss.
>>68772266
I know you can be this stupid and are just baiting but I can't resist pinning you to the fucking wall. When she is introduced to Khal Drogo she has zero comprehension of the language and it's still subtitled. Don't use big words next time you're being a fucking moron.
>>68772511
Not who you're replying to but I just rewatched the first few episodes and didn't have any subtitles
>>68761924
I found it funny, there was something Monty pithonesque in it.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9foi342LXQE
The rest is still shit though.
>>68772511
Season 1:
>I will hear no more. Mago, find somewhere else to stick your cock.
>A Khal who takes orders from a foreign whore is no Khal.
Season 2:
>Or maybe I refused to enter the Night Lands without you. Maybe I told the Great Stallion to go fuck himself and came back here to wait for you.
>That sounds like something that you would do.
Fucking HACKS going and CHANGING things.
>>68762179
I assumed it was Monty Python. Either 'What have the romans ever done for us?' or the Spanish Inquisition.
>>68773016
>Spanish Inquistion
I keep seeing people saying that this scene was like that skit, but I don't really see any parallels. The romans skit, sure, but not the spanih inquistion. Maybe I'm just retarded though, someone care to spoonfeed me?
>>68763578
This scene was so bad and so predictable. I would've rather had them say they killed him off screen.
>>68772869
Season 1:
>The stallion that mounts the world
>Moon of my life
>Sun and stars
Season 6:
>You ever been with a girl with white pussy hair?
>She doesn't have to be smart to be fucked in the ass
>Seeing a beautiful woman naked for the first time is among the five best things in life.
>>68764238
> a phonetic recording of the language
So, like, a language?
Also
> hurr durr they wouldn't say pussy
The subtitles are made for people in the 2010s, not the 1510s. Whatever Dothraki word means 'pejorative name for female genitalia' translates as pussy or cunt. If he wanted it, he'd have used the Dothraki word for vagina.
>>68763951
Arya walks on her hands in the stables in aGoT while training her water dancing.
>>68773435
S1: Ritual courting dialogue between engaged nobles, continued as cutesy coupley young-love stuff.
S6: Not that.
It's over, bro. Seasons 1 and 2 have Dothraki telling each other to find somewhere else to put their cocks and Season 2 has them telling people to go fuck themselves. The fact that not ALL Dothraki dialogue used that cant is irrelevant. All that matters is that some of it didbecause the showrunners have constructed a syncretic patois, and your objection crumbles to dust. Bitter, tryhard, posturing dust.
>>68773458
>So, like, a language?
Let's say we take English and simply assign a new phoneme to each syllable. This is what I'm calling a 'phonetic recoding', since properly, in terms of its grammatical structure, the language is really still just English.
Similarly, an artificially constructed language where the creator simply takes English words and creates new terms for them, is really still just English.
The rest of your post I agree with. That's basically what I've been saying.
>>68773734
It's irrelevant who's saying it, the point is that those sayings from the first season were figures of speech that represented unique Dothraki manners of describing things that distinguished them from other languages and cultures somewhat and now we have banter that could be lifted directly from an Apatow movie. And repeatedly using the phrase syncretic patios on 4chan while calling out someone for posturing is the absolute height of idiotic obliviousness.
>>68764114
>This is the American Tolkien.
noice
Dothraki were a fearsome savage race who called boats wooden horses. These guys just seem like a stupid gang you could find in King's Landing.
>>68774083
Remember kids, when you read this think Average to Small white Penis!
>>68761924
Fuck this was stupid.
HAHA GET IT GUYS ITS LIKE MONTY PYTHON, DO YOU GET IT?
>>68774021
>It's irrelevant who's saying it
No, it's not. One of them is a tribal leader, the other is a princess and they are engaged in courtship. Then they are a young couple.
In 6x1, both the henchmen and the Khal are not addressing a noteworthy individual but, from their perspective, a newly captured slave.
You realise that both of the lines I've quoted from earlier seasons are said by Drogo, right? He talks in a very different way when he's giving orders to an insubordinate junior. He talks in a very different way when he's describing blaspheming. Clearly, he is capable of speaking in either mode becauseI ain't gonna say it, you know. Clearly, he does so in earlier seasons and thus, clearly, you are blown the fuck out and the discussion is over.
I ain't even gonna reply anymore, bro. The criticism is objectively confirmed to be bullshit and I've got better things to do than sit around babysitting your bruised ego. Deal with it.
>>68774475
One of your quotes uses the term "Great Stallion" which is a unique Dothraki concept/phrase. The other uses "khal". Although "khal" is used in the newest episode as well as "it is known" if you eliminated those phrases there would be nothing to indicate you were hearing the words from a different culture. Reply if you want, but methinks the lady doth protest too much about bruised egos and having to say how hard you won the argument.
>>68762915
I sleep well at night knowing newfags get triggered this easily
>>68764114
GRRM's books are more entertaining
>>68761924
>>68761924
They are going offroad on their own, but GRRM told them more or less how the story would end and told them about important key points in the story, so the show can catch up to the books in the end more or less and have a SIMILAR ending.
GoT has pretty much entered Marvel/DC multi-universe. You have two cannons, show cannon and book cannon, each in a different universe.
>>68774241
>judging flaccid size
