Been watching/rewatching a lot of old science fiction series lately (Star Gate and Babylon 5 amongst others) and jesus christ, they haven't aged well. Generally bad acting, bad danger of the week plotting, bad looking aliens and horrible CG.
Are there any SF series which haven't aged badly?
>>68737154
Stargate Atlantis had fucking phenomenal CGI.
GOOLD?
>>68737223
Yeah, true. CGI of SG:A was good, but it still suffered from the others.
>>68737154
FarScape > SG
LEAVE SCIFIKINO TO ME
>>68737342
>>68737223
Also going to say Farscape.
It's cheesey, but it feels like the same cheesey it did when it first aired.
>>68737342
Rodney was the only saving grace of that show, imo. And he still suffered from the horribly repetitive plots and over the top quip tier writing.
>>68737507
Yeah, Rodney and the medical guy whose name I can't remember were basically the good characters in the show.
>>68737373
>>68737375
>>68737477
Cool. I'll give it a go. Thanks pham.
Wait, what?
Nigga, I am rewatching SG-1 RIGHT NOW, and it has aged perfectly well. Even the CGI is still good, outside of a couple of scenes where it just looks a bit dodgy, but it's the fucking 90s on 15mm film nigga, I ain't gonna complain.
The only thing that is outdated in the narrative is the way they do cliffhangers at the end of a season half way through episodes. You don't see that shit any more, and thank Apophis for that.
Where can I find Stargate SG1 in good quality, like on netflix? I only see those shitty dvdrips everywhere
>>68738799
The stargate ultimate fan collection is probably about as good as it gets. It has everything; I even think it has the original version of Children of the Gods (with the nudity). I doubt the actual physical DVDs will be of much higher quality.
>>68737507
Woolsey got some good character development, and I still miss Weir's early seasons.
>>68738170
Yeah, just watched one of the three parters again last night, it's like a really good RPG campaign: fucking nuts, but the endearing, colourful kind of nuts that you get invested in and love all the characters.
>>68738619
>15mm film
This, I love the first three seasons so much because of how they're shot. I'm so used to everything being digital these days it was a pleasant surprise starting my rewatch last year and seeing that 90s type of filming
>>68737154
If you're watching the B5 DVDs then the CGI is going to look worse than how it originally aired because it's cropped. It really is something they should feel ashamed to have released.
>>68738170
Just be sure to remember going into it that it usually takes about 15 or so episodes before most people get into it.
>>68737154
Defiance is really really good and under rated
>>68737154star trek
>>68737154
Farscape and Firefly
>>68742367
It really isn't, it's mediocre and deserves it's obscurity
>>68742679
>Firefly
kek
>>68742367
This
Defiance is amazaballs. Great setting, great world, great casting, even the music is perfection
>>68737154
Eureka was good
>>68743984
So I like it. ...sue me.
>>68737154
Classic Doctor Who.
>>68737280
DARMOK?
>>68737154
Enough with the retarded "this hasn't aged well" meme, if you have different tastes or expectations now than you did when they were on the air it's your own damn fault, don't blame the shows
Babylon 5 is a fantastic series. SG1 was never that great to begin with, still comfy and watchable though.
Oh, and I agree with everyone recommending Farscape. It is the greatest sci-fi series, maybe the greatest series of any genre
>>68745046
> if you have different tastes or expectations now than you did when they were on the air it's your own damn fault, don't blame the shows
This isn't a very good argument against the 'dated' fallacy. A better argument would be that expecting something old to look new is foolishness.
>>68745046
Farscape sucks, it's strictly for masturbaters.
>>68745046
>Babylon 5 is a fantastic series
>SG1 was never that great to begin with
kej
>>68737477
Muppets age gracefully.
>>68742193
How empty does your life have to be to stick with something for 15 episodes if you're not enjoying it?
>>68737477
Farscape is the best series to come out of SF, IMO. And it's aged like wine. I rewatched all four seasons plus Peacekeeper Wars a few months ago and it was better than I'd remembered it.
Also dem 10/10 alien qts...
Just to hijack the thread for a minute, who is the hottest alien bitch in Farscape and why is it Sikozu?
I'd like to have sex with her if you know what I'm saying.
>>68745150
I wrote a lengthy post in a Star Trek thread earlier, was too lazy to make another one
>>68737870
>>68745342
How do you even enjoy sci-fi television at all if you can't handle early season growing pains?
>>68745458
Farscape gets better every time I watch it, I've reached the post where I have seen every episode at least 7-8 times, and yes that includes Taking the Stone.
Season 1 is criminally underrated, but I can understand why someone would hate it if they're just starting. On rewatch, knowing where the characters and story are headed makes the early adventures feel really comfy and charming.
>>68745184
Farscape has better character development than any other SciFi I could name. It might have ripped off Lexx slightly with the whole 'living ship' concept but in terms of genuinely giving a fuck about the characters of a show and what happens to them it doesn't get much better than Farscape.
It's for this exact reason I almost wish I'd never seen Peacekeeper Wars. Any Farscape fans ITT will know why.
>>68745797
I'm the same way. I pretty much have to force myself not to rewatch it because I'm afraid I'll burn myself out of it, but I just keep liking it more each time.
>Taking the Stone
Except for that episode. I never skip it, but I grow to hate that episode more and more every time.
>>68745458
pic related is best girl
>>68745797
>and yes that includes Taking the Stone
>understanding solemn head tip
>>68738619
>>68740220
I'm also at the start of a rewatch. I like you guys.
>>68738799
I'm watching it on amazon video. 30 day free trial. Middle of season two. Trying to get it all in.
>>68745889
The living ship concept is not exclusive.
Blake's 7 did it with Liberator, way back in the 70's. There's been other examples since like Babylon 5, etc.
>>68746024
>tfw actually wouldn't mind having this crazy bitch lick inside my eye sockets
>>68746024
>>68745889
What's wrong with the Peacekeeper Wars? I'm not really a Farscape fan, I watched only the last season plus the miniseries when they aired, so I'm not really sure what's wrong with it. Did you prefer the brutal way the show ended?I kind of did
>>68746024
>15mm
Pretty sure 18mm was the standard for low-budget TV shows of the time
>>68746024
In your dreams, frellnik
>>68737154
sliders.....
>>68746281
meant as response to
>>68738619
>>68746276
The Peacekeeper Wars is fantastic, but it gets me right in the feels when a certain someone tells some unfortunates who their daddy is.
>>68746281
S1 - S3: 16mm
S4 - S7: 35mm
S8 - S10: digital
>>68746276
Not the poster you are responding to, but I also love the cliffhanger ending. PK Wars is enjoyable but feels very rushed (it's literally an entire season arc squashed into 3 hours) and IMO unnecessary. I know some people hate not having closure or a happy ending but I eat that shit up
Also not sure but I think he was referring toD'Argo RIP
>>68746474
Ah, you're right. I'm terrible at remembering numbers of any kind
>>68742679
firefly still looks good. i really wish that had went the 5 or 6 seasons needed to get syndication
>>68743984
fag
>>68742679
river sans makeup is so qt and pure
>>68745283
yeah that's the biggest difference between practical effects and muppets and CGI to me. Old/Bad CGI looks so much worst and the muppet just looks the same.
>>68737389
Holy shit I never made it this far. I may have to polish Atlantis off.
>>68746753
Shows do not get cancelled because they are good.
>>68746949
Farscape had plenty of CGI, although it still holds up very well. Not that I really care about dated/bad CGI, I'm pretty good at the whole willing-suspension-of-disbelief thing, if the writing and acting are strong enough I don't care
>>68745797
>and yes that includes Taking the Stone.
Why would it NOT include that. I kek every time Chrichton has to act stoned.
Also you know that episode was based on the time the cast did mushrooms at a wrap party and someone dared someone else to jump off something really high.
>>68737154
you're a gay cunt
>>68746522
>but I also love the cliffhanger ending.
Because you watched the show after it came out. To anyone who was watching the show when it was coming out it was a piece of shit ending because the network came under new management and decided to cancel the show, even though it had been renewed for 2 seasons at the start of that season.
It ends with "too be continued" because they didn't tell anyone they were canceling the show until about the time the episode was ready to air. It was a kick in the mivox to be honest. There was a massive push from the fans and the people from the show to get it picked back up by any network they could, but no one wanted it. I remember being so bummed out when I read they finally tore down the sets and threw it all out.
A few years later they made a made for sci-fi movie/mini-series called the peacekeeper wars which pretty much shoehorned the last season into a poorly paced movie.
>>68745184
>farscape is strictly for masturbaters
your right. it is for everyone.
>>68747616
>Also you know that episode was based on the time the cast did mushrooms at a wrap party and someone dared someone else to jump off something really high.
I love knowing this. Thank you.
>>68747768
you don't need to school me fekkik, Farscape is my favorite thing in the universe and I know the history. No I didn't watch it when it aired, and yeah I understand how fans felt at the time and it must have been awful, but thems the breaks. I just love cliffhanger endings, always have and always will.
>>68747616
I will never look at that episode the same way again, going to rewatch it tonight now. And here I thought I knew everything about that frelling show, any other trivia that isn't commonly known?
>disillusioned by season 5 of GoT
>someone tells me that B5 is actually game of thrones in space + other things
>watch it
>dumb shit in it like the one with Jack the Ripper i mean come the fuck on
>but besides that
>GOAT writing
>acting is okay
>tons of fucking awesome moments
>amazing, 10/10 payoff like lord refa getting the train run on him by a dozen pissed off narns who just got told they're face to face with their own personal hitler
>takes dumb ideas like "armies of light" fighting against "the darkness that is coming" and deconstructs this and questions the purpose and point of it
>The last episode of season 4 spends the entire time contextualizing the events of the show historically, showing it first become talking points from pundits who dont know shit, to it becoming myth and legend, to it eventually becoming religious dogma
>its literally one of the best scifi shows I've ever seen and actually left me fucking floored at how quality the writing was
>that entire fucking subplot about earth, already super conservative, slowly becomes a dictatorship
Seriously, even the fucking filler episodes in season 1 with their shit freak of the week shit were actually fucking great because they had a mini arc where the ship's doctor comes up to the commander of the space station and goes "Why are you putting your life at risk constantly for no reason this is not what you're supposed to be doing do you have a death wish?"
and its revealed that he has horrible PTSD and is actually, yes, intentionally getting involved with every little life threatening thing because he's a tiny bit suicidal.
Like it's a fucking great show
what kind of faggot complains about a low budget tv show from the 90s
like fuck off nigga, go eat some spoo.
>>68748750
>what kind of faggot complains about a low budget tv show from the 90s
Honestly the production value turned me off back when it was premiering.
Also I get triggered as shit when the bald lady ditches the bald cap and her hair somehow grows UNDER the bone crest on her head.
>>68738410
Why are all the lights on?
>>68748984
Space Elves
Ain't gotta explain shit
>>68737154
Fringe is pretty fucking great
>>68750516
Because its pretty that way.
>>68746309
love this
>>68746301
Is this real? Is there more?
>>68746024
>she took scorpius's cock
>she will never take yours
Feels bad man.
Anyone disagree jool was worst girl?
>>68751368
I disagree, I like Jool and have always thought she was an underrated character. Her developing friendship with Chiana was cool, and she served as the "normie" audience surrogate who pointed out how ridiculous shit was after John got used to it.
Plus those abs, I want to rub my balls all over them
>>68751693
Who was worst girl then, anon?
>>68751809
>>68752013
>posts jool
now you agree with me?
>>68752013
or maybe
>>68752075
It's from the alternate timeline where D'Argo and Jool are combined into a hideous trannie
>>68752171
I know, the joke was that jool always looks hideous.
>>68752385
I'm too drunk and stoned for that shit anon
>>68737154
Battlestar Galactica
>>68748750
Tried to watch ep 1 of Babylon 5. Got instantly turned of by the pretty bad acting of pretty much all the non-main characters (although the chick with the "I must always be professional" vibe wasn't that well acted either) and the aliens which were only distinguishable from humans because they wear a mohawk at a 90 degree angle to how 'normal' people would.
> what kind of faggot complains about a low budget tv show from the 90s
We have thousands of shows and films to pick from. So why would I waste my time with something which looks horrible, or something which needs 15 episodes to get into (at that point you may want to consider if it's just Stockholm syndrome, btw)?
Sure, maybe when you're able to get over that, it's a really good show. However, there are other good shows without these issues, so why not watch those?
>>68755278
>or something which needs 15 episodes to get into (at that point you may want to consider if it's just Stockholm syndrome, btw)?
see
>>68745643
better not watch 90% of sci-fi shows if your time is that fucking precious, faggot
Is Stargate worth getting into? I like the movie.
Red Dwarf
>>68737223
>Stargate Atlantis had fucking phenomenal CGI.
For it's time yes. Watch The Expanse though, their CGI shits on star wars and marvel. I have no idea how they do it.
>>68746024
My fucking nigger
My biggest complaint with Farscape is that there were too many mind control and/or hallucination episodes.
>>68755278
>the chick with the "I must always be professional" vibe wasn't that well acted either
Which one, Ivanova?
I honestly don't know how people are able to watch tv scifi. I get that it's an acquired taste, but HOW do you learn to like it?
>>68758198
>Ivanova
Yeah, I think so.
>>68756102
Yes
>>68752111
i wanted her to be a recurring character
>>68738799
just finished watching it on amazon. it available with prime but not the ending movies
>>68760364
I'm pretty sure the movies are on YouTube for free.
The X-Files
Sliders
DS9
Red Dwarf
Are my faves.
