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>but he is such a good guy he would never kill anyone...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uI35cmrdzI
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Captain Murder
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>implying the personification of America wouldn't kill
He's not nearly violent enough imo
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I cant take avengers seriously because of the shitty ragdoll physics and CGI on the robots.

Worst offender was the 60 FPS advertised version for flat screen TVs which had them blur the robots whenever they moved, fought or flied.

It takes you out of the movie immediately because you can really tell they are fucking around in greenscreen.

I cant see anyone taking these capeshit debates seriously, this is just pure kino.
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>>68718282
He's a soldier, not some fag in a bat costume.
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Captain Amurderer

/thread
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>>68718282
I believe Cap doesn't have a no-kill code. He kills people.
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>>68718282
>Guy from wwII
>Kills people
Say it ain't so. Everyone knows wwII was won with hugs and conversation over hot cocoa.
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>>68718282
> I need to start arguments with strangers on the internet because it's less intimidating than talking to people IRL
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>>68718851
> ermagerd i paid good money to watch men in underwear fight
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He is America.
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>>68718282
>a soldier kills people

NEWS AT 11!
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>>68718282
Stop advertising your shitty Jewtube channel
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>>68718282
Captain America doesn't kill Nazi?

Superman Does Kill often
Batman's one rule is: LEAVE NO SURVIVORS
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>>68718282

He kills because he is a real hero and a real human bean and he would kill the Joker unlike that faggot Batman
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>>68718282
not everyone he hit with his shield died
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>>68718970
>Everyone knows wwII was won with hugs and conversation over hot cocoa.

I'd watch the fuck out of a movie series based around that. Make it like a live action version of Girls und Panzer and hoooly sheeeet!
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>>68718282
>a legit soldier
>not killing people
Are you dumb?
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>>68718282
NAZI DON'T COUNT AS PEOPLE

everyone knows that.
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>>68718970
Nah you're thinking of World War I, or Let's all stop fighting and play football because it's fucking Christmas: The War.
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>>68718282
TOP
KEK
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>>68718282

Cap is a soldier, killing people is part of the job description.
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>>68719421
Are there any movies depicting this or is it just too anti-war for Jews to put to film?
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>>68718282
See, this is why dcuck is the laughing stock of /tv/
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>>68718967
he has in the comics, just like batman.
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>>68719488
I saw it in a movie we watched during middle school English class but don't remember the name.
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>>68719488
>>68719589
Joyeaux Noel
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>>68719589
>>68719488
Seems there's a movie that came out recently, "Christmas Truce" (2015)
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>>68718282
But Cap kills all the time. He's a morally good guy but kills when it's necessary.

He's no Batman, he'll fuck shit up.
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>>68719659
That's the one.
>>68719688
That's not the one.
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Cap murdering people in The First Avenger was excellent. He's not a dumb clumsy cuck that loves life unconditionally but slips and falls, flattening an entire city in the process. He's also not a lunatic.
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Do aliens really count as kills? A lot of them it doesn't even look like he killed them but its still counted as a kill.
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>>68719723
>middle school
>2005
>people born in 1998 are 18 and can post on 4chan without getting banned for it

God, damn it.
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>>68718967
He has a no kill code, people just ignore it because the movies are so shallow its easier to ignore it and since people's views on characters are solely constructed by movies now people just believe he doesn't.
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>>68719783
I think it counts as a, "confirmed combatant kill".
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>>68719817
>1998
I was born in '93 if that makes you feel any better.
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>>68719708
This. People think that batman doesn't kill because he's just that nice of a guy when in reality he just knows he's mentally fucked up and might take things too far.
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>>68718282
he probabbly killed a lot of nazis he is great
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Most of them are robots, aliens, Nazis, or terrorists. The only one I find questionable is when he throws the guy off the helecarrier in the first avengers. That poor sucker was probably just brainwashed by Loki like Hawkeye.
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>>68718282
video shill threads like this remind me of that Brazillian guy doxxing himself. Anyone have screenshots?
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#TEAMCAP
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>>68718282
Most of the people he "killed" in this video he just hit with his shield, sure he's strong but he wouldn't have killed them.
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>>68719541
>>68719834
>giving a shit about some stupid comics
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>>68719834
Cap has never lived by a strict no kill code. He was a damn WW2 soldier, he violated the code from the get go.

As a matter of fact not many of the Avengers go by a no kill code if any at all.
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>>68718851
is there a database somewhere full of pasted faces? I love this shit
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>>68718282
Most of them were aliens or Nazis
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Captain America doesnt have a no kill rule like Batman or Superman

Captain America didn't have a scene where his dad tells him he should let a bus full of kids die just to cover his identity

There was no full focus scene of him dramatically snapping any necks

He could have killed 6 million people, all it matters is the theming
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>>68718282

>Cap is a soldier.
>Implying soldiers don't kill.
>Implying the physical embodiment of America would not kill.
>Implying Cap has ever had a strict no kill code.

Wew

Funny vid tho
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>>68720041
Yet you're here talking about a movie less well written than a lot of Avengers and Captain America comics.

>>68720070
I have evidence. There's an entire arc about this in Avengers. He doesn't kill as a superhero, in wartime it was different.
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He killed nazis

Nazis are less than people
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>>68720070
Avengers unity squad the first team established I can think of that had a rule that they would NEVER kill a sentient being, even a reincarnated one. except when Rogue stabbed Scarlet Witch because women can't sort their shit out
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>>68718282
He killed DC, how much does this count for?
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>>68720082
Sadly no, it was some anon dumping it.
You can search my image in the archives, prob will find more threads where he dumps these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjIVxC4oIBk

or maybe google can find a blog with these
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>>68719421
>>68719659
Its a pretty badass movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRrr-CDXijs

If Jesus died so that, 1910 years later, two entire opposing armies laid down their arms so that they could celebrate his birthday, then I'd definitely say he was significant.
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>>68720215
t.Goldstein
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>>68720251
And Zack Snyder's reasoning for this was probably that he thought it looked cool too.
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>>68718282
Steve Rogers is not Matt Murdock

Steve Rogers is not Bruce Wayne

Steve Rogers is not Superman

Stever Rogers IS AMERICA BITCHES
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>>68719659
>>68719688
I think these too need to be banned, it really distracts from the image of the anti-german jewish conspiracy.
It will make the picture less muddled and the truth more clear
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>>68720257
Why did you bring up Jesus out of nowhere? Christmas is about something much more important.
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>>68720251
Good work Superman. not like ANYONE could've been in that building or anything.

>B-but he's a rookie!
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>>68720320
Like the plane crash...

The fire...
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>>68720191
>comics

Marvel isn't trying to be 100% faithful to the comics, otherwise Wanda would be looking quite different.

Having Steve kill makes the more grounded and it works. Only Batman should have a no-kill code because he's mental.
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>>68720320
...but Christmas is Jesus's birthday

....sure it is also the merged Winter Solstice celebration of Saturnalia, but Jesus has pretty become the reason for the season.
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>>68720339
>>68720371
>not getting the oldest South Park joke ever
Don't you see Kyle? Presents.
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>>68719124
Wouldn't any action star wearing underwear under their pants be considered men in underwear?
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>>68720276
Thats my whole problem with MOS and BvS.

There are a lot of cool ass looking scenes but they make no sense.

>Stops Batmobile from chasing goons.
>Bury The Batman Pls.
>Do You Bleed?
>Flies off leaving a heavily armed man in a tank who just murdered people free.

Great job Snyder.
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>>68720415
You interrupt my my baneposting for a kids joke?
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>Fought in World War II
>Kill people fighting said war
>Soldier mentality carries over when combating legitimate threats afterwards
>HURR HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO KEELLL PPL HE'S GOOOOOOOOD

Congratulations, you're retarded.
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>>68720415
I think instead of Santa Claus and presents, we should remember the sacrifice of Jesus Christ
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He killed

>nazis
>american cops

Both are subhuman racist pieces of shit
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>>68720430
>Bury The Batman Pls.
Am I retarded or did Superman make no sense in this scene? Why did he even hate him? He just shows up out of nowhere "bat is dead lol bye"
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>>68720472
>Gets captured by a jewish controlled army
>HE WAS SACRIFICED U GUISE

piss off cucktholic, go kiss some black feet
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Of course he kills, he's a soldier.

Are DCucks this retarded?
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>>68720524
>cucktholic
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>>68720472
PRESENTS.
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>>68720191

The MCU is Earth-199999 not Earth-616

Dont expect the same rule as the comic, when it was never established from the get go.

I use the same reasoning for Batman in BvS. He isn't established as a 'no-kill Batman' so expecting that is silly. However Superman was obviously traumatized killing Zod. You'd think he'd be against killing anyone else and you'd think that would play into his dislike of Batman...but...nope instead Lex subplot.
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>>68720348
Thats irrelevant to the claim that he has never had a no kill policy, which is what everyone keeps saying in this thread. I am merely saying that's wrong. And she actually looks a lot like that in Civil War, now. For example, there's constant retards like this >>68720469 who keep flooding in non stop. It just kinda irks me how common of an opinion this is.
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>>68718282
Captain America was a soldier in WWII of course he was killing Nazis left and right.
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>>68718282
>WWII soldier killing Nazis

Gasp! The horror! Seriously, are people really this dumb?
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>>68720564
das it white pa, lik dem feets yo
i ain even finish yet go on b
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>>68720512
He doesn't tolerate vigilante justice
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>>68720512

Supes was mad because Batsy was "marking" the bad guys, and the bad guys that are marked die in jail
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>>68720524
If Romans were jewish controlled, how come mere years after the death of Jesus they beat the hebrew army so hard they kickstarted the entire diaspora?

>Errrrr

Romans are just as much responsible as the jews
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>>68720590
I honestly dont expect them to keep that, but thats not the point. Point is he had a no kill rule for decades that people are pretending doesn't exist now.
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>>68720627
>>68720630
ok. ty brahs.
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>>68720591
how could he be a solider with a no-kill rule?
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>>68720642
They killed just some peasant before they got fed up once sheckelstein wanted more money
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>>68720663
He isn't a soldier with a no kill rule, he's a superhero with a no kill rule. That was the rule once he was reawakened by the Avengers.
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>>68720512
Superman made no sense nearly the entire movie. So many things he could've done right but did wrong for the sake of cool moments of plot devices.

>I let people die in a courtroom
>Yea i'll just run off and not talk to the public making myself look guilty when i could clearly explain that it wasn't me.

>Lex wants me to kill Batman.
>Well i guess instead of using my super hearing to hear where she is, i'll try to talk to Batman.
>I'll make sure to be as vague and slow as possible when talking so Batman attacks me first.
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>>68718282
Batman's character: I don't kill people.
Superman's character: I don't kill people.
Captain America's character: I'm a soldier, soldiers kill people.

Movie Batman: Murders people
Movie Superman: Murders people
Movie Captain America: Is a soldier who kills people

Sounds like they got Superman and Batman wrong, but Captain America right.

Also, robots are people.
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The regular MU Captain America almost never kills. The one in the (now ended) Ultimates Universe--where the MCU is mainly set--killed plenty, since he was more soldier than hero.
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>>68720663
Possible I think

If he had non-lethal, maybe less-lethal weapons, and their allies were massive killers

The enemy would surrender to them, just to avoid being killed and raped by the other enemy.

Without such ally? Really hard, but not for a super hero. He just needs a ton of rope to tie up the enemy
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Germans don't count :^)
They can all turn to jelly after falling for kilometers and hitting the pavement for all I care
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>>68719919
fuck you kike
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>>68720816
Germans, japs, russians, brits

All subhuman murderers and the villains of ww2

Can't fwel sorry for them
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>>68720663
Like a MGS protagonist controlled by the player aiming for 0 kills.
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>>68720165
He also wanted to help as many people as he can in Sokovia. Knowing full well he is only a human, not some invincible alien god.

He doesn't need to feel conflicted or burdened in helping people nor he needs any advice from a ghost dad even though he lives in a completely different world.
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>>68720624
stop being off-topic
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>>68720652
you must've missed the cuckmann script
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>>68720624
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>>68720646
I don't think no one's acting like it doesn't exist, i think people are just being realist. Cap is not a character who's plots go around the fact he doesn't kill especially in recent comics. Its not something like a Joker v Batman complex where Joker's motive is to make Batman kill him because it wont affect Cap morally. If Cap kills he kills. He's not a downright murderer but he does kill when he deems in necessary.

When compared to Batman/Superman, characters who have a history of very strict no killing rules, its silly because Cap was a soldier. Batman and Superman had the choice from the get go to honor the rule. Cap doesn't like killing, but he can and will when he needs to.
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>superheroes with strict no kill rules
I'm not saying they should all go full Punisher, but killing when necessary is a sensible approach.

Retards like Batman who lets Joker kill hundreds just because he has a faggy rule shouldn't even be considered heroes.
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>>68720472
Yes

Jesus did sacrifice his life to Santa Claus.
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>>68721077
It's not Batman's fault Joker keeps pulling shit, it's Arkham's. IRL he couldn't just keep escaping to do some ebin shenanigans, the only reason he can do so in the comics is because he's extremely iconic as a villain.
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>>68721077
That's the thing. If you have no "no kill" rule, you have no Joker, because eventually Batman has to catch the Joker and murder him.

Works well for movies. Not for comics that go on for decades.
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>>68721077
I agree with your post and your dubs.
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>>68720794
In WW2? Non-Lethal Weapons?
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The more this thread goes on, the more I am liking Cap.
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>>68721171
Oh fucking hell this is hilarious.
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>>68720591

I would agree with you if this was based off the original Captain America, but MCU is definitely more based off of the Ultimate universe. Ultimate Cap kills, so i dont see a problem.
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>>68721171
FRANCE??
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>>68721171

I ironically want to see that in a movie
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>>68721009
>>68720937
triggered christcucks
A jew that got cucked by his own religion
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>>68720590
BvS Batman is also a grizzled fuck who was traumatized not only by "MY PARENTS ARE DEAD", but also by the fact that the Joker looks like Jared Leto and Robin is dead. He may have had the no-kill rule before the death of Robin. Affleck's solo film will probably clarify this.
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>>68720041
I don't give a shit, but people do when they talk about the new batman.

Cap in comics = no kill rule
Cap in movie = kills
>it's okay :)

Batman in comics = no kill rule
Batman in movie = kill
>wtf is this shit?? batman doesn't kill. worst batman ever!! xd
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>>68721673
Batman's rule is more pronounced and more important to his character.
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>>68718282
Captain Drone Strike
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>>68721733
except when Michael Keaton or Bale plays Batman?
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>>68721784
The Burton movies did not give a damn about Batman or the source material at all, they're barely even Batman movies.

Bale had a no-kill rule, so I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>68721673
Cap not killing is less important to his character and he already was a killer being a soldier.

Batman never was a killer to begin with and has a choice.

But if we're being honest:
MCU Cap = Ultimate Cap
Ultimate Cap kills in comics.

Batfleck = The Dark Knight Returns Batman
Im not sure if Batman kills in that.

But there are more stories where Batman doesn't kill then when he does. With Cap, its never been strict no kill.
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>>68721784
Keaton movies dont follow source material.

Bale has a strict no kill rule. He killed indirectly in Batman Begins and when he killed Harvey in TDK, he did go into retirement. It wasn't like he wanted to do it.

Snyder-Verse Bats kills with little care to it, which is no big deal sense its obviously an older less caring Batman.
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>>68721673
Maybe because the people who go to see Marvel movies don't read comic books?
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>>68721784
Fuck Keaton and his manlet ass and shit movies. Fuck Burton.
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>>68722106
>Im not sure if Batman kills in that.
He doesn't, but Snyder actually thinks that he does.
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>>68721733
What literally every single person making this argument apparently fails to understand is tat BvS is a movie about a broken, post-Robins death, post-giving a shit, FALLEN (it's the fucking opening dialogue ffs) batman.

BvS is ABOUT him returning to his former no-kill-rule, no-superman-hating, perhaps-my-eternal-struggle-against-crime-isnt-pointless self.

I know a lot of the fagits here are just trolling but it's still baffling.
One imagines the same people watching man of steel going WHY CANT SUPERMAN FLY SUPERMAN CAN FLY SO HE SHOULD FLY I DONT UDNERSTAND WHY SUPERMAN DOESNT FL-oh nevermind he just learned how to fly is this movie about superman becoming superman or something???
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>>68722631
I wasn't talking about BvS, I was talking about the character as a whole.

Batman killing is ok with me in BvS because Robin is dead and the story is larger than Batman himself.

Young Batman (Begins) and Prime Batman (TDK) shouldn't kill.
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>>68721900
>>68722193
>bale had a no kill rule
>except when her tried to shoot a guy
>also when he refused to kill a guy and instead burned him alive in a building with his friends
>and then drug Ras' barley alive body through the snow
>only to say he wasn't killing him but leaving him to die on a train
>and those two men in that truck in the car chase scene in TDK
>and Two face
>and when he shot Talia's drives with the Batwing and then cause Talia to die from the car crash
>other than those several times he had no kill rule, are you crazy?
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>>68723039
these are nitpicks, in the script there are no kills.
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>>68722952
oh we cool then
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>Hit enemy with shield
>Kill
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>>68718282
Captain Murder
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>>68723103
>those people dying on camera are nitpicks
>they were sleeping
>Two face fell to his bedtime
>Talia was up late and wanted a nap
>her driver was hit with a sleep dart from the automatic batwing night time bat dart dispenser
>a warm burning build is a cozy place for bed
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>>68718282
He killed more people than the bad guys did
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>>68723115
I think a cool use of the no-kill rule could be that it should punish and mental/physically drain him enough to the point that he snaps and disregards it entirely.
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>>68723143
>punch generic robot
>kill
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>>68723224
>>Two face fell to his bedtime
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>>68723224
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>>68723224
Batman is not the executioner. That's all that matters.
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>>68723334
Tell that to Two-face's crushed spine
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>>68723401
good one senpai
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>>68723401
Joker killed him.
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>>68722506

Well coming from the guy who thinks having his Superheros have more than 5 lines of dialogue in the suit is silly i'd believe you.
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>>68723570
using weaponized Batman
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>>68723570
dressed as Batman?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJma8pVAvH4
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>>68723689
>that ridiculous cgi in a "serious" batman movie
every time
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>>68722631

>BvS is ABOUT him returning to his former no-kill-rule, no-superman-hating, perhaps-my-eternal-struggle-against-crime-isnt-pointless self.

The problem is basically all of that gets overshadowed by this Lex/Doomsday/Bad Superman plot, so it doesn't work as well.

Also its kinda hard to believe this is a Batman returning to form when that warehouse fight clearly shows him killing. Of course the script says he doesn't but he used the Batplane to mow down cars of people and im sure that guy he punched fact first into the ground is a little more than paralyzed. It would've played out better had we seen the 'Silent-Ninja' Batman using the Batplane as a distraction to get Martha, rather than cool ass Arkham-Mode Batman.
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>>68718282
>Nazis should be killed
>Hyrda should be killed
>Robots and Aliens don't matter, what are they going to do, arrest them?
>Not everyone hit by the fucking shield just dies

NEXT
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That was the shittiest Kill Count video I've ever seen.

>guy getting punched unconscious counts as a kill
>ultron bots getting destroyed count as kills
>arbitrary, made-up numbers for vehicle destruction

I can only assume the video was made by some pathetic faggot from the DC side of this stupid console war.

Here's a real Kill Count video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoO-w7Z7Yv4
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>>68723717
I loved CGI 2Face.
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>>68723752
He needs to kill Iron Man for his friend :)
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What kind of a fucking SOLDIER would have a no-kill code?

And in the Avengers movies they just fight faceless alien robot mooks so that certainly doesn't matter.
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>>68723783

Its more of a joke kill count video. Not meant to be taken seriously.

Also he's definitely not a DCuck
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>>68723802

He wont kill Iron Man. Severely injure him yes. Kill no.
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>>68720251
what a fucking useless shot
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>>68723877
He also needs to kill Black Widow for being a slut
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>>68720251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZZIEkFk_NQ
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How many people has Iron Man killed in the MCU? Like 5 villians + 35 terrorists?
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>>68718282
>but he is such a good guy he would never kill anyone...
DCuck confirmed
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Why are autists so triggered by these characters killing?
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>>68723742
>The problem is basically all of that gets overshadowed by this Lex/Doomsday/Bad Superman plot, so it doesn't work as well.

Not trying to fuck you up but come on, the entire first 20 minutes is ALL about batman / bruce wayne being messed up - including, for the first time, the really negative context of his becomming batman being instantly labelled as a beautiful lie.
If you seriously think that snyder was being too subtle then I dont know what else to say to that...

>Of course the script says he doesn't but he used the Batplane to mow down cars of people and im sure that guy he punched fact first into the ground is a little more than paralyzed

1. That's obviously before supermans death and before batman realises the ramifications of his actions. Give him 5 minutes to find his faith in mankind again, man.

2. I'll give you that gunning down the guys in he truck was a bit harsh even for a fucked up batman but I doubt any of the other thugs are any worse off than regular thugs in every other batman movie. You think nobody got hurt when bat-tank demolished gotahm? Or the dozens or so he just beats up regularly with anne hatheway or at the start and end of tdk?
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>>68718282
He kills. He doesn't want to, but he has to sometimes.
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>>68723689
Joker killed Harvey Dent. Two Face wasn't a man.
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>>68721171

>France

ahahha
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>>68724357
That scene was just Gruenwald giving him a new no-guns-no-killing code.
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>>68720253
enough to make me laugh
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>>68718282
He's a soldier, idiot.
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>>68718282
That's the price of sweet freedom.
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>>68724726
who shot at the truck? Bane?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PWJD_uCkK8
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>>68718282
Steve Rogers is a soldier who fought in the second World War, what's your point exactly?
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>>68718282
>literally no one has ever brought up the argument of any marvel movie having mass casualties
>pretends everyone has a problem with

jesus christ can you DC fags just give it a rest
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>>68725445
read the script
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>>68722631
Batman killing really doesnt bother me, the problem is that I find it hard to believe that if he has no problem murdering/branding to death criminals, why are his villains still alive during Suicide Squad? Is a common tug OK but killing the joker/deathshot/harley/killer croc/ too much/going to far?
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>>68726552
Watch the movie
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>>68727729
Holy fuck, DC movies are too smart for marveldrones.
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>>68723224
Most of these were necesary. Remember that making Batman ignore his no-kill rule was part of Joker's plan.
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>>68723689
>le Bats killed Dent
He obviously tried to stop him from killing the kid, with him falling as a consequence.
>>68725445
>le bats of murder killed Talia on porpuso xd checkmate
The lives of millions were in peril due to a time bomb.

Stop this, you are acting like an idiot.
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>>68718282
Germans aren't really people, neither are aliens or robot copies.
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>>68724087
That video is so desperate it hurts.
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