So I just found out that Inception, which I always thought was a very original idea, is actually a rip off Paprika (2006) and Dreamscape (1984), with exactly the same scenes. I'm going to watch these movies soon.
What are other famous movies that are considered to be original stories but instead are rip offs?
I love it when people post shit that isn't even remotely similar.
>>68211366
They're called homages.
>>68211366
Inception has moments in it that are inspired by/lifted from Paprika, but as a whole it's something very different.
>>68211366
In creative industries the key is not to be original, but to be awesome.
It could be called a reference or homage. Kinda shitty but if you wow the pants off enough people, it will slide.
>>68211402
Pretty sure nolan was up front about paying homage to based Kon.
Inception and the Surreal - Between the Lines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtI5Ni32rRk
Last Year At Marienbad
Fellini's 8 1/2
Is INCEPTION Dream Hypnosis ? Part 1 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC0igjHE7ps
>>68211366
Obviously there was an inspiration. Nolan's movies are similar to anime in many ways.
paprika is overrated af
so middlebrow it hurts, I guess teeenagers who only have azumanga diaoh to compar it to think it's high art though
>>68211559
I'll kill you. Azumanga Daioh is kino.
>>68211366
It ripped off Dark City too
Maybe you should watch Paprika before you call it a 'rip off' lol
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>>68211756
That's very interesting! I add these movies to my list and will also watch them.
>>68212188
How have you never seen any of these? Jesus fucking Christ.
>>68211366
>thinking a movie from 2010 was original in any way
we used up the last original idea years ago
>>68211559
>paprika is overrated af
Just like inception!! damn OP is right they are alike
>>68211559
I agree that other Satoshi Kon movies are better than Paprika. If you are implying that based Kon is overrated kill yourself.
>>68211366
It's a reference, not a ripoff.
>>68211756
How so?
>>68212642
it's not a reference.
>>68211435
Whatever you say Quentin.
Reminder you can pretty much steal all of your ideas, say it's a homage, and get away with it.
inception is shit
don't understand why critics liked it
I'm pretty sure Nolan said he had seen and loved Paprika
If you're going to be talking about Satoshi Kon getting ripped off, then by far the more comprehensive rip off is how Black Swan is essentially Perfect Blue.
Aronofsky denies he was inspired by or ripped off Perfect Blue, even though everyone already knows he bought the rights to it so he could directly copy a single scene from it in Requiem for a Dream. It's like he's saying he only ever watched that scene he copied, and erased the rest of the movie from his mind or something. It's kind of laughable, at that point you have no defense.
Martie remade Infernal Affairs scene for scene, made it worse with the addition of a useless love triangle, and it won Oscars.
nobody gives a f**k
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>>68211366
Nolan ripped Paprika off, its obvious
>>68212926
Ellen looks awful with that hairdo
>>68211366
Marvel shills are here
> "Nolan paid an obvious hommage to another movie so Disney can copy his style to make money"
>>68212992
shes an ugly girl
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Tell me /tv/ how would you differ between a homage and a rip off?
>>68211435
>homage
>doesn't even mention the original creator
>>68213025
What are you even talking about
>>68213082
A rip off would be flat out remaking, or doing a whole sequence the same. A homage would be something like a prop or dialogue that references
>>68213130
How many times would they need to mention everything they reference to make you happy you autistic faggot?
If flat out saying it several times isn't enough
>>68213130
Doesn't have to, especially when the similarity is obvious.
Which version is better?
I say vanilla sky. better actors and soundtrack
>>68212646
It didn't. Anon thinks a city moving around means it's a ripoff
Have trailers finally moved on from that foghorn that this horrible movie made famous?
>>68213155
> Dr Strange trailer comes out
> everybody notices the ressemblance with several Nolan's movies
> suddenly a thread about an old movie and how Nolan himself ripped off another movie
paprika was a ripoff of pic related and willy wonka
>>68213240
So /tv/ being retarded as usual and you're helping, got it.
What it really ripped off
>Movie which ripped off Sakasama no Patema
>>68213231
Have posters moved on from that horrible text formatting that the social network started?
>>68213466
what are you even talking about?
>>68213394
Thanks I forgot about this movie, gonna watch it now.
Nolan's always been paying homage to and referencing old stuff
>>68211366
>a glib facsimile
>>68212637
As an anime artist no he's not overrated. If you're implying that he's a good "filmmaker" hahahahahahah are you 12
>>68213486
When a movie poster does the social network thing. They stopped doing that yet?
I realise by 'posters' you might think I meant anons making a post
At least no one's going to rip off Dreaming Machine any time soon...
;_;
>>68213597
Are you
>>68213038
How will she ever find a boyfriend?
>>68213568
I appreciated this
>>68213720
Oh right that, as said I'm out of the loop regarding trailer trends and posters but i can only hope they stopped. Then again the orange and blue contrast in covers haven't really stopped yet either.
>>68213874
If i had the money i would just to spite you because you have something precious that hasn't been ruined yet like the rest of us.
>>68212672
>it has similar scenes that arent important to the plot therefor it's stealing!!!
Natural Born Killers
Everyone praised Oliver Stone for his style in that one, but it's basically just his attempt at making a Richard Kern. Not unlike how Brian DePalma was often trying to be Hitchcock
>>68214079
Dreaming Machine didn't get made, anon, so good luck with that.
>>68211366
It's a known fact that Nolan is a fan of Kon so it's not strange at all that Nolan takes inspiration from Kon's work. Kon was a master at combining visual and audio, and a central theme in all of his pieces is the dichotomy of dream and reality and the many lives of modern man.
Examples: Interstellar, The Prestige, Memento.
This said, Satoshi Kon may very well be one of the most influential progressive directors of the 20th century, and it's not just limited to Nolan. Nolan just make's it more apparent then others, quite possibly as an homage.
>>68211366
> it's a "webm won't load on my tablet" episode
everything is ripped off except for topical shit that takes place in modern times
>>68214141
May I ask which movies does Memento rips off? Because it is also a movie I like and still believe to be an original idea (story by Jonathan Nolan)
>>68213568
>whispered granny, in a coarse whisper
Nolan likes his anime references. The Dark Knight Rises has an entire sequence (the bombs going off in the sewers) lifted right from Patlabor 2.
>>68213205
I say Abre Los Ojos.
>>68211366
It's actually literally a rip off of an old Donald Duck comic where the beagle boys are trying to get into Scrooge's dreams, it lifts scenes like the chair in the bath tub.
>West makes something
>Japan copies it
>West copies them back
POETRY
>>68213874
I hate you so much.
>>68215003
Perfect Blue, but I wouldn't call any of Nolans movies ripoffs because although there are similarities, all Nolans movies are their own original work(with Inception as an exception). Nolan usually takes the core concept and spins it, and make's his own thing.
>>68211435
No, when you are going that far, it isn't a homage anymore.
>>68212926
I wondered why the fuck she had that hairdo, it was totally a fish out of water on her for that.
>>68216206
I googled this Donald Duck comic, which is called The Dream of a Lifetime, and in wikipedia page it is said "The idea of Inception, however, was pitched to Warner Bros. by Nolan in 2001, while Rosa's comic was first published in 2002." If this is true, then idea was even before Paprika. On the other hand it could be just idea and not script with scenes descriptions. Those could be still ripped off somewhere in 2008-2009.
>>68212637
Yeah, it's too bad especially since it's his last and probably most positive film. Even sadder when you consider what he said about each of his film's characters representing him at the time.
>>68211366
Another famous rip off would be Satoshi Kon's Tokyo Godfathers which was a rip off of Three Godfathers directed by John Ford.
>>68216446
>translation: he rips offs other people's stuff and changes it just enough so he doesn't get his ass sued. then he can make dat mad cash with less work
So, like every other fucking POS.
>>68213205
agreed.. the original was a good idea, but execution wasn't as solid
>>68214040
she gave up
Kill Bill and Lady Snowblood. Like I knew Hackentino had some pretty heavy influences, but seeing this brought "going to films" to a whole new, very literal level.
Master and commander is literally a pirates oft the caribbean rip off
>>68213568
OH GOD
>>68213568
at last i truly see
>>68213568
DEEPEST LORE
>>68211559
fuck you nigger
>>68211366
Praprika is good though.
Inception is pretty boring.
Also Praprikas OST is fucking amazing.
Avatar and ferngully?
>>68213394
who the fuck has these kinf of dreams, this is retarded
i only dream of fucking girls and running in public without pants on, that kind of shit
>>68212874
Aronofsky is a hack. Satoshi Kon is a legend.
>>68218445
Upside/Down isn't dreams
lady snowblood = kill bill
>>68212563
i never understood how hollywood can be so fucking unoriginal. there are thousands of novels published each year that offer up something largely different than the previous year, but the jews just want Movie 2: The Returnening and Movie 3: Back in Action even when they barely scrape profit
>>68211366
>implying anything is original
Even Paprika had its inspirations.
>>68213568
I like to imagine some /tv/ poster curling up on a comfy chair with his favourite children's book maybe with a mug of tea. When he gets to this part he drops the mug, he can't believe what he's seeing. "Bravo, Nolan" he says, as a tear rolls down his cheek, "Bravo".
>>68211366
Wait someone thought that Inception was original?
>>68211366
Congratulations Anon, you just found out that Nolan it's a fucking hack.
He literally ripped of from "Paprika, Dreamscape and Scrooge Mc Duck" working on this idea since he was 15 my ass.
>>68211435
this isnt a homage, this is a plain rip off.
Interstellar ripped off Voices of a Distant star. All this fag does is rip off anime.
>>68211440
and better
>>68223142
EvangelioNolan rip off when?
>>68214929
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU4R53zyvv4
still the best
>>68214929
>>68223756
>it's terrible mobile posters episode
>>68218025
hang yourself weeb
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Don't forget the On Her Majesty's Secret Service level which was mercifully left out of trailers to leave it as a surprise
>>68211366
well then you're going to be seriously disappointed if you like Black Swan and havent yet seen Perfect Blue....
It's anime.
Who cares?
>>68225292
again its a homage, movies do it to each other all the time theres no need for weebs to get angry
>>68213568
THE FIRE RISES
>>68225381
No it's not, those shots are nice, but generic as fuck.
>>68215049
that's just what terry pratchett does
>>68213568
this stupid fucking meme will never die, right?
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>>68224093
boring random weeb shit
>>68224124
also this
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