Could he be Snoke?
>>68029910
no because snoke is a hologram
All I want is Thrawn. Please. It's all I want.
Is snoke a force user? Is this guy?
>>68029910
this is tarkin right?
No because George Lucas stipulated that any characters introduced in the sequel trilogy CANNOT appear in the spin-off films.
Really intelligent move that has saved the franchise from becoming even more of a clusterfuck. Thank you based George.
he is snek
>>68030018
Snoke is an alien (the last of his kind) who can control/read minds through telepathy.
He can interface with the Force but he can't use it.
It's Thrawn but because Disney is a bunch of racist nazis they made him white instead of coloured
>>68030033
What are you Tarkin about? That looks nothing like talking.
>>68030033
No but there will be a CGI Tarkin I wish I just made that up but it's true
>>68029997
>>68030033
Retards.
>>68030035
>implying they care what George Lucas thinks
>>68030116
Can we get back on topic before this thread veers any further off cours
>>68029910
Its Thrawn before he joined Blue Man Group
>>68029910
Is this Tarkin or Ben Mendelsohn I can't fucking tell
>>68030035
>No because George Lucas stipulated that any characters introduced in the sequel trilogy CANNOT appear in the spin-off films.
Source, nigger?
>>68030165
It was a written contract.
Then again Disney have gone back on gentlemen's agreements with Pixar (their no sequel rule) and changed copyright law, so anything is possible.
>disney whitewashed Thrawn
this feeling... is this what the feminists mean when they say they're triggered?
should i say "das rayciss"?
>>68030098
Where are you getting this?
>>68030010
They should have done that instead of Snoke (unless Snoke is Plagueis).
>>68030240
I am Snoke.
>>68030018
We don't really know if Snoke is a force user (or if this guy is).
>>68030010
>>68030112
>>68030182
>>68030226
>EU
>>68030098
Prove it, nigger.
>>68030182
Lel.
>>68030326
Sure thing, December 17, 2017.
>>68030197
Are you blind, bitch?
>>68030216
Source it or abort it, faggot.
>>68030240
My bleeding faggot arse.
>>68030395
Fuck off, you fatherfucked niggerfucking faggotnigger. You can't prove shit about Snoke.
>>68030425
Do your own research.
The Rogue One Wikipedia page is a start.
>>68030517
>caring about this gay shit
Literally if the dude isn't tarkin i'm not going to watch this fucking trash. the trailer looks like shit. the characters are crap, the movie looks fucking AWFUL. the only redeaming quality would be to get some Tarkin backstory and apaprently he's going to be cgi so
>>68030517
No, nigger, if make a claim, then its your fucking responsibility to source your niggershit, you niggerfucking retard. Source your fatherfucking shit or fuck off and die, faggot.
>>68030517
cant prove shit...
autistic fuck
>>68030611
>>68030628
>>68030677
Look man, I ain't lying.
Get yourself on that page, read it, and click the sources.
You learned this shit in high school.
>>68030035
???
>>68030700
this is what i learned in highschool you fuck
>>68030718
>introduced in the sequel trilogy
>>68030247
You have autism.
gareth edwards is a FAGGOT
>tfw you consistently make shit movies
>tfw you help ruin starwars
>tfw don't care only want money
>>68030739
Oh, he can be in it.
They've already borrowed heavily from the EU. It's possible that it will be some specific interpretation of Thrawn, or an entirely new character based on him, but there's a good chance you'll be happy.
They just can't use Snoke or Lor San Tekka or anyone else who might be alive. Or any other sequel characters if other spin-offs are set elsewhere down the timeline. Lucas insisted that the main nine films be their own saga with their own characters.
>>68030611
Bitch, it can't POSSIBLY BE WORSE THAN TFA. At least this has a good directer and won't be a fucking derivative rehash.
>the characters are crap
How the fuck do you know? They can't be worse than maRey Sue and her negroid sidekick (redeeming quality: there was no racemixing; the nog was the butt of every joke and was basically Rey's cuckboi sidekick; the fact that TFA was directed by a Jew is fucking astonishing).
>the movie looks fucking AWFUL.
U fookin wot, m8? The cinematography looks great; much better than Abrams or Lucas.
>>68030891
>GARETH EDWARDS SUCKS BALLS
>TFA WAS SHIT TOO
>IT'S ALL TERRIBLE CRAP AND YOU BUY INTO because
>IT CAN"T BE WORSE MFW
>>68030700
Post your source, nigress. We're not going to source YOUR FATHERFUCKING CLAIM, YOU OBSTREPEROUS NIGGER FUCKTARD.
Post source (greentexted) or suck a nigger cock.
>>68029910
Does he feel in charge?
>>68030793
How?
>>68030819
Again, source your shit, nigger.
>Implying this isn't how the movie will end.
The Grand Admiral Mendelsohn is executed by the Emperor and Darth Vader for letting the Death Star plans fall into the hands of the Rebels.
The Emperor says get me Major Tarkin. Camera pans towards the elevator. Doors slide open revealing the soon to be Grand Moff. Camera focuses on his face.
"Wilhuff Tarkin at your service." he says confidently. Scene cuts to black. Roll credits.
>>68031052
sounds legit
>>68031039
He cant source his shit...
he made it up
>>68031052
I think he was already a grand moff by this point.
Mendelsohn is definitely tarkin just saying
>>68031039
I already set you on the right path.
>>68030803
>gareth edwards is a FAGGOT
Prove it (being gay doesn't count).
>tfw you consistently make shit movies
The Fuck? Monsters was a solid film and Godzilla was a great interpretation.
>tfw you help ruin starwars
>implying this hasn't been done to varying degrees by Lucas and JewJew
>tfw don't care only want money
Lel, even if true he can't be worse than a literal kike.
>>68031282
>thought monsters and godzilla were not absolute shit
>>68031052
>>68031242
Wasn't this Tarkin in Episode 3?
or is prequels not canon anymore
>>68030969
>>GARETH EDWARDS SUCKS BALLS
False.
>TFA WAS SHIT TOO
Yes; but better than the prequels as long as FinnRey doesn't happen in future films.
>IT'S ALL TERRIBLE CRAP AND YOU BUY INTO because
>IT CAN"T BE WORSE MFW
False. Nigger.
>>68031349
that scene was gay so I don't care.
the movie was gay so i don't care
>>68031213
You don't say.
>>68031329
Why? Explain yourself, nigger. Why were they bad films?
>>68031438
fucking manchild fuck off
>>68031349
I always remember having some respect for George for not recasting Peter Cushing. He's such an iconic and distinctive-looking actor who did a great job, it would be ridiculous to cast someone else as Tarkin.
Then I rewatched this scene and realized this is supposed to be him. This is somehow WORSE than him recasting the captain from the start of A New Hope in Revenge of the Sith (look it up, they look nothing alike and were about the same age).
>Mendels Sohn
>the bad guy
JUUDEEEEN!!
>>68031466
Not an argument. You can't say a film is absolute shit and then refrain from explaining why, you braindead niggerfuck.
>>68030226
I feel you bro. I might get legitimately upset when they start replacing races like chiss and bothans with their own stupid bullshit.
>>68030718
>mfw her dad and my dad are best friends
>>68031552
What are their favourite films?
>>68031534
Speaking of which, are Bothans going to be in rogue one? It would weird if they weren't and if they did have Bothans it would pull in dat Zootopia/Furry demographic.
>>68031552
[DESIRE FOR NIGGERFAGGOTS TO SOURCE THEIR MOTHERFUCKING NIGGERSHIT INTENSIFIES]
>>68031607
no because death star 2. they are going to have to address this
>>68031607
Bothans did Death Star II
>>68030718
more like mon milfma
>>68029910
No, Snoke isn't even human.
Also, there is no "Snoke Mystery." That's some retarded shit EU fags came up with. Snoke is just Snoke, a new character.
There is no rational story reason for any twist or surprises here, the twist will be revolving around Rey and Kylo, not ancillary characters like Snoke.
>>68029910
you guys realize this is the scene where tarkin blows up the death star test planet, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FTmPTip0lI
>>68030035
>No because George Lucas stipulated that
>because George Lucas
>George Lucas
>Jorge
Isn't J.J in command now?
>>68031650
Oh, yes, I remember now. Still, Bothans would bring in the Zootopia/Furry demo.
>imagine the rule 34
>mfw
>>68031052
>"Wilhuff Tarkin at your service, Sheev, my dear friend."
Fixed.
>>68031714
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Destruction_of_Despayre
>>68031733
>isn't a puppet for hire director in command now?
No, and he never was. Kathleen is in charge, and she makes all the important decisions.
>>68031052
Why would it end like that? Most people would walk out of the theatre thinking "who the fuck was that old guy at the end?". Mainstream audiences aren't going to get hyped about Tarkin. They wouldn't put so much emphasis on him. Maybe some lines, but not literally ending the whole movie with a close up on his face.
>>68031701
>No, Snoke isn't even human.
Dude, what if Snoke is Plagius and inhabits the OP dude's body and Sheev finds out at the end of Rouge One and that's why he's so fucked up and Plaguis-like in TFA.
>Also, there is no "Snoke Mystery." That's some retarded shit EU fags came up with. Snoke is just Snoke, a new character.
>There is no rational story reason for any twist or surprises here, the twist will be revolving around Rey and Kylo, not ancillary characters like Snoke.
Yes, because the villain of a new Star Wars trilogy will be some random dude out of fucking nowhere (sarcasm); Snoke has an origin somewhere, they won't have him as a random bloke with no backstory.
>>68031816
>the phantom cunt
>>68031816
>Kathleen
ok. My point stands, cus Kathleen is not Lucas. I hope.
Can u imagine? Episode VIII is shitty, with some really bad romance lines and video games action scenes. People go question her about that and she just rips of the mask and it is George "ahh, it was me all along.".
>>68031946
>Dude, what if Snoke is Plagius
No.
>Yes, because the villain of a new Star Wars trilogy
Kylo.
>Snoke has an origin somewhere, they won't have him as a random bloke with no backstory.
Sure, but he's still OC and not a throwback. He doesn't need to be some obscure fag wookipedia autists love to have a backstory.
>>68032010
based johnson gonna save it
>>68031242
Not even likely.
>>68032059
dude he's 100% tarkin.
>>68032088
They already said Tarkin will be 100% CG multiple times you stupid fuck.
>>68031714
>>68031811
New canon has already established Alderaan as the test planet.
>>68032088
His rank indicates he's an Admiral, Tarkin was already Grand Moff during this time.
>>68032129
>>68032194
>>68032136
SOUNDS LIKE THEY GAYED IT UP PRETTY GOOD
>>68032028
>No.
Then why does Plagius's theme play when Snoke is introduced?
>Kylo.
Kyo's not the main villain; Snoke is:
Kylo = new Vader
Hux = new Tarkin
Snoke = new Sheev.
Thing is, the Emperor is hard to top, so who better to have as a new villain then Sheev's old master.
>Sure, but he's still OC and not a throwback. He doesn't need to be some obscure fag wookipedia autists love to have a backstory.
An OC origin would have the weight as Plagius and an OC backstory would take up a lot of run time.
He is probably Plagius but other theories (such as OP's) are still possible.
>>68032088
dude your 100% faggot fucktard.
>>68032352
*would NOT have the weight of Plagius
Fucking nigger.
>>68032352
99% of the audience wouldn't even know who Plagius is. If they tried it as a twist it would fall flat on its face.
>>68032352
>Then why does Plagius's theme play when Snoke is introduced?
There is no such thing as "Plagius's theme." It's called "Palatine's Teachings" and it plays multiple times during RotS.
>Kyo's not the main villain; Snoke is:
No. Kyol is the main villain of TFA, and Snoke is a tertiary character. Also, this is pretty irrelevant.
>An OC origin would have the weight as Plagius
I have no idea what this means.
>OC backstory would take up a lot of run time.
No longer than Plaguies, because normies have no idea who he is, only EU autists care about Plagueis.
>He is probably Plagius
No, and I'd bet 100's of dollars on it if I could find one of you people in real life.
>>68032352
>>68032438
>>68032488
>>68032495
No one knows how to spell Plagueis.
>>68032578
I knew I was getting it wrong but I couldn't be bothered looking it up. That's kind of the point though. Plagueis is such a literal fucking who that even the few people that know who the name refers to can't spell it.
The rank on his uniform says he's an admiral.
He's wearing the uniform of the ISB (Imperial Security Bureau).
The big-wig of internal security will be the main antagonist of a movie where they are trying to steal secret plans.
He isn't Snoke, or Tarkin, or Thrawn, and there is no reason for him to be.
>>68030010
This guy would make a great Thrawn, but he's not blue... Not sure what his age may be, either.
>>68032658
This.
>>68032662
>mfw this is a sjw movie about topical issues like internet security and the NSA
>>68032714
w2c hoodie in the middle?
>>68032488
And normies didn't who Thanos is; it wouldn't take very long to introduce, anyway. Just open the movie with a 15 to 20 minute sequence of Plagueis becoming a Sith, finding and training Sheev, being betrayed, and gathering the first order; LOTR did this well with the opening Suraon sequence in FOTR and the opening Gollum sequence in ROTK.
>>68029910
>mfw this is this niqqa
>>68032714
this is why tumblr/deviantart should be blocked in all countries
>>68029910
that would actually be pretty cool
>>68032793
>And normies didn't who Thanos is
They still don't, but he he does have like 40 years worth of comic book history going for him, unlike Plaguies, who is in one shitty book only a few neckbeards read.
And remind me who is pushing this bullshit conspiracy theory by Disney that Thaons is not Thanos, but in fact an even more obscure character, like say, Ego the Living Planet?
Oh right, no one, and your comparison makes no fucking sense. If Snoke was going to be Plaguies, they Disney would not be hiding it (there would be no reason for it), but promoting him through other media. But they are not, and he's not, so it doesn't matter.
Fuck I hate dumb EUfags.
>>68032749
That's link, arselicker.
>>68032495
>There is no such thing as "Plagius's theme." It's called "Palatine's Teachings" and it plays multiple times during RotS.
The operatic portion only plays once during the "Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise" scene; a song nearly identical to "Palatine's Teachings" plays during Snoke's introduction; musical cues are very prominent in Star Wars.
Also, Kylo says "The supreme leader is wise!"
>No. Kyol is the main villain of TFA, and Snoke is a tertiary character. Also, this is pretty irrelevant.
But Snoke is the main villain of the trilogy which is what I meant.
>I have no idea what this means.
I meant: An OC origin would NOT have the weight of Plagius.
>No longer than Plaguies,
Wrong; they could just open the movie with a 15 to 20 minute sequence of Plagueis becoming a Sith, finding and training Sheev, being betrayed, and gathering the first order; LOTR did this well with the opening Suraon sequence in FOTR and the opening Gollum sequence in ROTK. An OC origin would take longer to show meaningfully.
>normies have no idea who he is, only EU autists care about Plagueis.
And normies will watch it regardless. All normies would need to know is that Snoke is the Sith who trained the Emperor; having Snoke be Plagueis is the best choice narratively.
>>68031349
JUST
>>68029910
Oh really? Do *I* look like I'm running Wayne Enterprises right now? Your hit, on the stock exchange, it didn't work, my friend! And now you have my construction crews going around the city at 24 hours a day! How exactly is that supposed to help my company absorb Wayne's?
>>68032917
>implying showing Thanos' origin is easier than simply showing a a 15 to 20 minute sequence of Plagueis becoming a Sith, finding and training Sheev, being betrayed, and gathering the first order like LOTR's opening Suraon sequence
>>68033534
>The operatic portion only plays once during the "Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise" scene
Williams reuses musical themes all the time, and Plagueis is simply too obscure and irrelevant to get his own theme.
>Also, Kylo says "The supreme leader is wise!"
lol
>But Snoke is the main villain of the trilogy which is what I meant.
No, like Sheev in the OT, he might be the big bad final boss, he's not a main character and not the main villain of the story. This story isn't about him, much like OT was not about Palpatine. He plays a supporting role, but he will not drive the story.
>I meant: An OC origin would NOT have the weight of Plagius.
And how do you know that? Would you happen to know Snoke's origin?
Exactly. And from what they are setting up so far in the new EU, Disney is making Snoke out to be possibly the guy who somehow "created" the Darkside. Doesn't get much bigger than that if they do go with that.
>Wrong; they could just open the movie with a 15 to 20 minute sequence of Plagueis becoming a Sith
Aside form being a terrible idea, it applies just as much to an OC origin as anything else.
>And normies will watch it regardless.
No, it's the opposite, the hardcore fans will watch it regardless. Normies are the one that Disney needs to sell this movie to. The hardcore fans that have heard of Plagueis will buy a ticket no matter what, so there is no reason to pander to them. Disney has absolutely no incentive to use Plagueis.
Got a major EU hard on for this. Its cool to see a star wars movie in territory that is usually only covered by kids shows and video games.
but does he feel in charge?
>>68033790
And why can't Thaons be explained in 15 to 20 minutes? There probably won't be a need for that and he will get a decent introduction in GotG 2 anyway.
Besides, the point is that Thanos is clearly Thanos, and no one is denying that. That is not comparable to the silly theory that Snoke is actually not Snoke, but a super secret different character that most people do not give a fuck about and have never heard of.
>>68029910
snoke a bowl?
>>68031052
Actually, I have a different thought
>Either the Emperor or Tarkin orders Vader to choke the shit out of the Grand Admiral for his failure to protect the Death Star plans
>Then Vader sets off in pursuit of the Tantive IV, leading into ANH
>>68032917
>If Snoke was going to be Plaguies, they Disney would not be hiding it (there would be no reason for it)
>No reason
Umm how about not spoiling the fucking story before the movies are released? Wtf man
And
>They still don't, but he he does have like 40 years worth of comic book history going for him, unlike Plaguies, who is in one shitty book only a few neckbeards read.
Rewatch episode 3....... FFS
>>68034834
>Rewatch episode 3....... FFS
Yeah! Forget the full-length novel! He is vaguely referred to in a couple of lines once!
>>68034834
>Umm how about not spoiling the fucking story before the movies are released?
Again, Plagueis is way too fucking irrelevant for anyone to care. And if Snoke's name was Plaguies right now, it would not change the story what so ever.
>Rewatch episode 3....... FFS
Oh, you mean that movie where he is mentioned in one throwaway line, presented as a lie no less, that the director of the film stated is supposed to be ambiguous and not objective truth.
Sorry, Plagueis is only important in one EU novel, that has been thankfully wiped away by Disney.
Haha, EUfags, you so crazy.
>>68031006
Probably from your mother drinking when she had you
>>68033747
wow normal people don't look like that. Not even CGI people.
>>68033883
1/2
>Williams reuses musical themes all the time, and Plagueis is simply too obscure and irrelevant to get his own theme.
When has he reused a theme in such a way? Of all the tracks he could have reused for Snoke's theme, he used the track played when Plagueis is introduced. Coincidence? I don't think so; musical cues are very important in Star Wars (examples: TPM celebration music is a remix of the Emperors theme, it plays when Sheev's plan begins to bear fruit; also, Vader's theme plays when Anikan kills the sandpeople, signifying his developing turn to the darkside).
>lol
Not an argument.
>No, like Sheev in the OT, he might be the big bad final boss, he's not a main character and not the main villain of the story. This story isn't about him, much like OT was not about Palpatine. He plays a supporting role, but he will not drive the story.
Bullshit, Sheev is clearly the overarching villain of both the PT and OT.
>And how do you know that? Would you happen to know Snoke's origin?
>Exactly. And from what they are setting up so far in the new EU, Disney is making Snoke out to be possibly the guy who somehow "created" the Darkside. Doesn't get much bigger than that if they do go with that.
Because such an origin would beg so many questions like where the fuck he came from and why the fuck is only active now? Having Snoke be Plagueis gives him an origin with gravity and explains why he wasn't active during the OT; it would neatly tie together all three trilogies with a single overarching villain.
>Aside form being a terrible idea, it applies just as much to an OC origin as anything else.
Wrong because OC origin would'nt be tied directly with previous films; also, more people know about Plagueis now becuase of Snoke, just look google search trends for "Darth Plagueis".
>>68035127
I have never ever in my entire life consumed one bit of the EU, so calling me an EUFag would be false.
But seriously....
>Again, Plagueis is way too fucking irrelevant for anyone to care. And if Snoke's name was Plaguies right now, it would not change the story what so ever.
NO SHIT he is irrelevant right now, but he HAS been referenced as you said in episode 3, the director calling it ambiguos only makes it easier for us to assume that they COULD introduce him as the character. And yes it would change the story...... It literally would be introducing the backstory of a character that currently has none.
>>68030803
>he doesn't realise that based gareth is going to make star wars kino once again
embarrassing tbqh
>>68033883
>No, it's the opposite, the hardcore fans will watch it regardless. Normies are the one that Disney needs to sell this movie to. The hardcore fans that have heard of Plagueis will buy a ticket no matter what, so there is no reason to pander to them. Disney has absolutely no incentive to use Plagueis.
More bullshit, normies only care that a new Star Wars movie is out; they will watch anything with the Star Wars brand name.
Normies won't refuse to watch it because they don't know who Plagueis is. Your argument is that Plagueis is too obscure but an OC origin would be even more obscure and harder to explain than Snoke being Plagueis.
>>68035401
>I have never ever in my entire life consumed one bit of the EU
Of course you have, otherwise you would not have cared about Plaguies. AT the very least, you went to autispedia.
>NO SHIT he is irrelevant right now
Thank god it's going to stay that way.
>but he HAS been referenced as you said in episode 3
That's no reason to turn Snoke into him.
>the director calling it ambiguos only makes it easier for us to assume that they COULD introduce him as the character
No, it explains you what his intent was with the Palgueis story.
>And yes it would change the story...... It literally would be introducing the backstory of a character that currently has none.
No it wouldn't because they would still have to explain that to the audience, in which case, there is, again, no difference between an OC Snoke and Plaguies.
>>68035127
>Again, Plagueis is way too fucking irrelevant for anyone to care. And if Snoke's name was Plaguies right now, it would not change the story what so ever.
Wrong again, nigger! The mean villain being Plagueis would have implications, like that he trained Sheev, is immortal, and created the Skywalker bloodline.
>Oh, you mean that movie where he is mentioned in one throwaway line, presented as a lie no less, that the director of the film stated is supposed to be ambiguous and not objective truth.
Wrong again, nigger! The scene heavily implies Plagueis created Anikan and was Sheev's master.
>>68035643
*main villain
Fucking fuck me
>>68031052
>Grand Admiral
>Executed
Only the Emperor is higher rank than Grand Admiral, Vader is a puppet. I also have a hard time believing that a Grand Admiral would go down that easy, the guy could rebel if he wanted and fuckup the emperor big time.
The point is that they can't use Plageuis as a twist reveal because nobody will fucking get it. It will have no impact. I suppose they could still make it his backstory, but if they emphasised it too heavily it would be a big mistake.
>>68035373
>When has he reused a theme in such a way?
Is this a joke?
>Of all the tracks he could have reused for Snoke's theme, he used the track played when Plagueis is introduced
Or, maybe, you look at the context of the story. In the RotS scene, Palpatine is corrupting Anakin with his teachings/lies.
In TFA, Snoke is corrupting Kylo with his teachings/lies.
Also, one is Mongolia throat singing, one is chanting, two very different things.
>Not an argument.
Of course not. Just like saying the adjective "Wise" is one.
>Bullshit, Sheev is clearly the overarching villain of both the PT and OT.
Only the PT. He is major lore character in the OT, but he is not the main character like Vader and Luke are. He is a supporting character in the OT, just like Snoke is so far in TFA.
>Because such an origin would beg so many questions like where the fuck he came from and why the fuck is only active now?
Who cares? Same exact shit applies to Plagueis.
>Having Snoke be Plagueis gives him an origin with gravity and explains why he wasn't active during the OT
Dude, I got rekt by Sheev and I have been hiding for 50 years. Wow, what a villain. And no, it does not explain wtf he has been doing for 50 years and you do need to come up with some story too.
>it would neatly tie together all three trilogies with a single overarching villain.
No it wouldn't, because Plaguies is not a villain in the Star Wars movies, and never will be.
>Wrong because OC origin would'nt be tied directly with previous films
You don't know what the origin is.
> also, more people know about Plagueis now becuase of Snoke,
Only autisitc nerds, who are irrelevant. The normies count, the people who will watch any movie with Star Wars in the title don't. And most movie goers now have an idea of show Snoke is, and don't know jack about Plagueis.
>>68035541
>More bullshit, normies only care that a new Star Wars movie is out; they will watch anything with the Star Wars brand name.
No dumbfuck, normies don't care either way. It's the hardcore fan who will watch anything Star Wars movie just because of the franchsie name. Normies do not care about Snoke or Palgueis, and never will.
>Normies won't refuse to watch it because they don't know who Plagueis is.
Never made that argument, they clearly do not care.
>Your argument is that Plagueis is too obscure but an OC origin would be even more obscure and harder to explain than Snoke being Plagueis.
That doesn't make any sense. First of all, my argument is that Disney has no reason to use Plagueis, because they don't have to pander to hardcore fans. They also have no reason to trick normies into thinking that Snoke is not Snoke but some character they don't give a fuck about. And the complexity of the story telling needed to give is background depends on what it is, which is an unknown.
Which will be short and sweet anyway, just like Sheev in the OT. How much backstory did Palaptine get in the OT? He is Vader's Master, and he is the Emperor of the Empire. That's pretty much it, and Snoke is only going to get a few more sentences than that in the end.
>>68029910
>a white man
>with white hair
>wearing all white
maybe he's a good guy.
>>68030035
BASED GEORGE
THANK YOU GEORGE, PLEASE SAVE US
>>68035643
>The mean villain being Plagueis would have implications, like that he trained Sheev, is immortal
Pointless, Sheev is dead. The story is about Rey and Kylo, not about old Sith, which are also dead and gone forever, top kek.
> created the Skywalker bloodline.
Stupid head canon, that goes against both the word of George Lucas, and old EU. It's one of the stupidest fanboy theories out there, and Disney will never go full retard and use it. Bless them for it.
>The scene heavily implies Plagueis created Anikan and was Sheev's master.
The scene also heavily implies Sheev is lying, and the movie even confirms it. George confirmed the scene was meant to be ambigous but that the force created Anakin on it's own, and so did the old EU. Again, stupidest head-canon ever, that Disney will not touch with a ten foot pole.
I don't have time left and I wasted enough time on your autistic EU loving ass.
Try to remember how much of a dumb EUfag you are after you watch episode 8, and realize Snoke is Snoke and that Plagueis is an irrelevant character will never appear in a movie.
>>68035754
1/2
>Is this a joke?
No.
>Or, maybe, you look at the context of the story. In the RotS scene, Palpatine is corrupting Anakin with his teachings/lies.
In TFA, Snoke is corrupting Kylo with his teachings/lies.
>Also, one is Mongolia throat singing, one is chanting, two very different things.
That's one interpretation; or it could imply that Snoke is Plagueis.
>Of course not. Just like saying the adjective "Wise" is one.
Accept the line seems out of place expect for the fact that Plagueis was called "The Wise".
>Only the PT. He is major lore character in the OT, but he is not the main character like Vader and Luke are. He is a supporting character in the OT, just like Snoke is so far in TFA.
More bullshit, Sheev is spoken about as an overarching villain by Yoda.
>Who cares? Same exact shit applies to Plagueis.
False again, faggot!
OC origin question: where the fuck did Snoke come from?
Plagueis answer: he is a Dark Lord of the Sith who trained Sheev and set his ascension to Emperor in motion; not just an answer but answer with narrative gravity.
OC origin question: what has Snoke been doing during the PT and OT?
Plagueis answer: he created the Skywalker bloodline before the PT, trained Sheev and helped orchestrate the Clone Wars during TPM and AOTC and hid from Sheev, awaiting his down fall, in the unknown regions (where Sheev detected a darkness before his demise) after Sheev's assassination attempt; this anser neatly ties together all three trilogies with a single overarching villain better than any OC origin could.
>No it wouldn't, because Plaguies is not a villain in the Star Wars movies, and never will be.
Wrong again, nigger! The scene heavily implies Plagueis created Anikan and was Sheev's master.
>You don't know what the origin is.
What else could it possibly be (aside from the OP)?
>>68030035
The prequels were terrible so fuck off shill.
>>68036295
The major problem with your theory, which is otherwise well thought-out, is that JJ Abrams never comes up with any answers for his mystery boxes, he just sets them up and hopes for the best. I have not seen anything that states Abram told Rian Johnson or Colin Trevorrow about any grand plans... so even if he did have some sort of master plan, he did not tell them.
I bet George Lucas's idea for a new trilogy DID factor in Plagueis, but they flatly rejected his ideas. He's been butthurt ever since.
>>68035900
>No dumbfuck, normies don't care either way. It's the hardcore fan who will watch anything Star Wars movie just because of the franchsie name. Normies do not care about Snoke or Palgueis, and never will.
Even more bullshit, niggerfucker. Normies will watch what ever has the Star Wars brand because they're fucking normies, nigger.
>That doesn't make any sense. First of all, my argument is that Disney has no reason to use Plagueis, because they don't have to pander to hardcore fans. They also have no reason to trick normies into thinking that Snoke is not Snoke but some character they don't give a fuck about. And the complexity of the story telling needed to give is background depends on what it is, which is an unknown.
And yes, normies would care about Plagueis because HE TRAINED THE FUCKING EMPEROR; most normies would shit their pants if it were reveled that Snoke was the Emperor's master.
>Which will be short and sweet anyway, just like Sheev in the OT. How much backstory did Palaptine get in the OT? He is Vader's Master, and he is the Emperor of the Empire. That's pretty much it, and Snoke is only going to get a few more sentences than that in the end.
Different fucking context: Star Wars was just beginning and Lucas had planes in place for a prequel trilogy; having Snoke be some random dude who comes out of fucking nowhere with no explation would be fucking retarded; I highly doubt Snoke will get a whole prequel trilogy explaining his origins like Sheev did because that ground has already been tread: different fucking context.
>>68036441
But JewJew isn't directing 8 and 9 and Disney wouldn't let JewJew go full JewJew; they have a plan and it doesn't include rogue directors fucking up their trilogy.
>>68036706
Was getting caught part of their plan?
>>68036611
You sounds triggered as fuck, "nigger."
You're wrong about everything, and you'll be lucky if Plagueis' name is even mentioned in a book from now on. I'll be right here to drink in your tears after episode 8 comes out.
Stay irrelevant, my EU loving friend.
>>68032578
I don't know why these fuckers keep thinking its Plag when the Sith are gone. It's been stated a few times in new canon already..
>>68032700
Wha?...
I can't be the only one who cringed hard at the "i rebel" line
>>68036874
Some people can't let go of the EU.
>>68036843
>You sounds triggered as fuck, "nigger."
lol faggot I don't give a fuck about your shitty "le triggered" meme.
>You're wrong about everything,
Oh really, bitch? Then why didn't you address anything I wrote:
>No dumbfuck, normies don't care either way. It's the hardcore fan who will watch anything Star Wars movie just because of the franchsie name. Normies do not care about Snoke or Palgueis, and never will.
Even more bullshit, niggerfucker. Normies will watch what ever has the Star Wars brand because they're fucking normies, nigger.
>That doesn't make any sense. First of all, my argument is that Disney has no reason to use Plagueis, because they don't have to pander to hardcore fans. They also have no reason to trick normies into thinking that Snoke is not Snoke but some character they don't give a fuck about. And the complexity of the story telling needed to give is background depends on what it is, which is an unknown.
And yes, normies would care about Plagueis because HE TRAINED THE FUCKING EMPEROR; most normies would shit their pants if it were reveled that Snoke was the Emperor's master.
>Which will be short and sweet anyway, just like Sheev in the OT. How much backstory did Palaptine get in the OT? He is Vader's Master, and he is the Emperor of the Empire. That's pretty much it, and Snoke is only going to get a few more sentences than that in the end.
Different fucking context: Star Wars was just beginning and Lucas had planes in place for a prequel trilogy; having Snoke be some random dude who comes out of fucking nowhere with no explation would be fucking retarded; I highly doubt Snoke will get a whole prequel trilogy explaining his origins like Sheev did because that ground has already been tread: different fucking context.
Your move, cock-sucker.
>>68031282
>defending Godzilla Edwards but hating on JJ and TFA
Why do you faggots do this?
>>68029910
THAT'S TARKIN YOU FUCKING RETARDS
JESUS CHRIST
>>68037002
And your mouth can't let go of your stepdad's nigger cock.
>>68037057
>implying Godzilla was a bad film
>implying Edwards is a bad director
>implying TFA isn't wasted potential
>implying JewJew isn't mediocre
Explain this retardation.
>>68030165
Nobody cares what George thinks.
>>68037064
You are either trolling or a retarded nigger.
>>68036952
kek
>>68037043
>Then why didn't you address anything I wrote
Becasue I already rekt.
Just remember how much wrong you after episode 8 comes out.
Good luck, and stay in High School.
>>68037305
>Becasue I already rekt.
No you didn't, faggot. I refuted ALL your niggershit and your just deflecting because you don't have a response.
>Good luck, and stay in High School.
Suck a nigger cock.
>>68037402
>this mad
Remember December 15 2017. I'll make sure to drink an extra one to your tears.
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>>68037441
>this much deflecting
Admit it, bitch, you have no response because I destroyed your shitty fucking arguments; refute what I wrote or admit you are a braindead faggot with shitty fucking arguments, fagnig.
When Plagueis is Snoke, you have my permission to stop sucking your stepdad's nigger cock.
>>68037514
Much dubs.
>>68037620
You didn't destroy any of my arguments. You ignored them and then you literally just made up fan fiction about Palguies. Lol.
Wish I could find someone as dumb as you in real life and score and easy bet win.
I get that you young and not very smart and should let it go, but the fact I caused so much butthurt to cracks me up. Alright, goodnight faggot, and think about me as you cry yourself to sleep on December the 15th.
>>68037753
>No dumbfuck, normies don't care either way. It's the hardcore fan who will watch anything Star Wars movie just because of the franchsie name. Normies do not care about Snoke or Palgueis, and never will.
Even more bullshit, niggerfucker. Normies will watch what ever has the Star Wars brand because they're fucking normies, nigger.
>That doesn't make any sense. First of all, my argument is that Disney has no reason to use Plagueis, because they don't have to pander to hardcore fans. They also have no reason to trick normies into thinking that Snoke is not Snoke but some character they don't give a fuck about. And the complexity of the story telling needed to give is background depends on what it is, which is an unknown.
And yes, normies would care about Plagueis because HE TRAINED THE FUCKING EMPEROR; most normies would shit their pants if it were reveled that Snoke was the Emperor's master.
>Which will be short and sweet anyway, just like Sheev in the OT. How much backstory did Palaptine get in the OT? He is Vader's Master, and he is the Emperor of the Empire. That's pretty much it, and Snoke is only going to get a few more sentences than that in the end.
Different fucking context: Star Wars was just beginning and Lucas had planes in place for a prequel trilogy; having Snoke be some random dude who comes out of fucking nowhere with no explation would be fucking retarded; I highly doubt Snoke will get a whole prequel trilogy explaining his origins like Sheev did because that ground has already been tread: different fucking context.
I destroyed all your shit arguments; address them or prove your nigger-fucktardation by ignoring them.
You think I care about this enough to cry, faggot-cunt? Snoke could be an roginal char; I wouldn't care. You are projecting and you will cry even harder when your stepdad forces his nigger cock down your queer throat when Snoke is Plagueis.
Can't be tarkin. Different colored square things
>>68038109
I love how you post such an innocuous on-topic comment right bellow a yuge-ass retard flame war.
As for your comment, you are right, its not Tarkin but it could Snoke.
>>68037943
>Normies will watch what ever has the Star Wars brand because they're fucking normies
I know you're dumb, and starwaw man like crazy, but I never claimed otherwise. My point was that Palgueis does not appeal to normies and thus Disney has no reason to use him. Disney has nothing to gain by using Plagueis, because he is simply irrelevant and obscure to the story. For a twist to matter, it needs to have an impact. Snoke turning out to be Palgueis has no impact. You, and some other neckbeard will recognize the audience, the normie won't and won't care. Try to keep up.
>And yes, normies would care about Plagueis because HE TRAINED THE FUCKING EMPEROR
This is you projecting your hard on for Plaguies. No one would care, especially since the story is about Rey and Kylo first and foremost.
I can aslo make baseless predictions too. People will laugh at the guy who got rekt by Sheev so bad he hid for 50 years. Wow, such gravity. Why should we care about the guy who is weaker then the last big bad?
LOL, EUfags BTFO again!
Creating the darkside, if Disney uses it, actually sounds impressive.
This is of course silly since it has nothing to do with anything, because the Sith are gone forever and won't appear in future saga movies, as decreed by Kathleen.
>Different fucking context: Star Wars was just beginning and Lucas had planes in place for a prequel trilogy
The prequels have nothing to do with this. The new movies are modeled after the OT, and Rey v Kylo mirrors Luke v Vader. Snoke, like OT Sheev, is important to the backstory, but not to the conflict of the main characters. Plagueis wasn't even created until the 4th or 5th draft of RotS.
>having Snoke be some random dude who comes out of fucking nowhere with no explation would be fucking retarded
Again, this is exact same scenario for Plagueis. Since 99% of the audience does not know who Plagueis, it makes no difference to them, both will need some backstory.
>>68035991
>>68037943
>I destroyed all your shit arguments
You have no arguments., You have wishful thinking.
The truth of the matter, Plagueis is an obscure character only know to neckbeards. The general audience does not care about him, and Disney has no reason to use such a shitty character. Why would Disney use a poor character with a ton of baggage, that retcons the saga since the Sith are dead, after they already got rid of his lore in the EU? Of course they wouldn't, because there is nothing to gain.
And now it is too late and I can't believe I wasted so much time on you. Thank god it's Friday.
Stay butthurt, and think of me fondly one day when you truly understand how wrong you were, EUfag.
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>>68038109
Maybe hes just Moff Tarkin, instead of Grand Moff Tarkin
>I rebel
>>68037514
i dubbed five times there wow
>>68038461
1/2
>I know you're dumb, and starwaw man like crazy, but I never claimed otherwise. My point was that Palgueis does not appeal to normies and thus Disney has no reason to use him. Disney has nothing to gain by using Plagueis, because he is simply irrelevant and obscure to the story. For a twist to matter, it needs to have an impact. Snoke turning out to be Palgueis has no impact. You, and some other neckbeard will recognize the audience, the normie won't and won't care. Try to keep up.
Nigger shit from the niggercum filled mouth of a niggerfaggot. All normies will know is:
Plagueis is an Sith Lord WHO TRAINED THE FUCKING EMPEROR AND YES NORMIES WILL CARE ABOUT BECAUSE THE EMPEROR IS FUCKING ICONIC.
Created the ENTIRE FUCKING SKYWALKER BLOODLINE INCLUDING VADER, KYLO, LUKE, AND PRESUMABLY REY.
Is fucking immortal.
This is all normies need to know and it sounds fucking badass to them.
>I can aslo make baseless predictions too. People will laugh at the guy who got rekt by Sheev so bad he hid for 50 years. Wow, such gravity. Why should we care about the guy who is weaker then the last big bad?
Because he isn't weaker; he was injured and needed to wait but he was more powerful in their ways:
"To cheat death is a power only one has achieved".
Also, laying low helped his plan anyway becuase he need Sheev to eliminate the Jedi for him; he also knew his force bioweapon (the Skywalkers) would eventually destroy Sheev and allow him to control the remnants of the Empire.
>Creating the darkside, if Disney uses it, actually sounds impressive.
No, it sounds retarded; the most powerful darkside user ever and he did fuck all for thousands of years? Get real, queer.
>The prequels have nothing to do with this. The new movies are modeled after the OT, and Rey v Kylo mirrors Luke v Vader. Snoke, like OT Sheev, is important to the backstory, but not to the conflict of the main characters. Plagueis wasn't even created until the 4th or 5th draft of RotS.
>>68038925
>Plagueis is an Sith Lord WHO TRAINED THE FUCKING EMPEROR AND YES NORMIES WILL CARE ABOUT BECAUSE THE EMPEROR IS FUCKING ICONIC.
Plagues is a bitch who got rekt by the Emperor so hard he hid for 50 years. What a loser! Normies will love that pussy, lol!
>Created the ENTIRE FUCKING SKYWALKER BLOODLINE INCLUDING VADER, KYLO, LUKE, AND PRESUMABLY REY.
Headcanon that goes against the canon. Pls keep headcanon to yourself. No one likes fan fiction.
>Is fucking immortal.
IS DEAD! LOL! Forever too, and never coming back. HAHAHAHAHA, U MAD EUFAG?
>This is all normies need to know and it sounds fucking badass to them.
Oh I'm sorry, but Snoke created the Darkside in the canon, making him far more powerful that osme bitch that can't even handle Sheev. Now that's impressive.
>Because he isn't weaker; he was injured and needed to wait but he was more powerful in their ways:
Then why did he lose and hide? Cuz he a weak ass bitch like u! LOL
>"To cheat death is a power only one has achieved".
Oh but I actaully don't know shit Anakin and I lied to you earleir about knowing that power. Maybe we can figure it out? I mean, it's not like I'm lying to you, like I did before.
LOL, trusting Sheev, are yo ua nigger or something?
>No, it sounds retarded; the most powerful darkside user ever and he did fuck all for thousands of years?
He's from the outer rim in the new canon. But whatever, it's up for Disney to decide what he did there. Probably fuck bitches. One thing is for sure, Snoke is not Palagueis.
HAHA, another EUfag rekt. Ayy yo, you got a tumblr or something bitch boy? So I can hit you up after 8 comes out to see you cry?
HAHAHA, EUfags are so easy.
>>68038461
>>The prequels have nothing to do with this. The new movies are modeled after the OT, and Rey v Kylo mirrors Luke v Vader. Snoke, like OT Sheev, is important to the backstory, but not to the conflict of the main characters. Plagueis wasn't even created until the 4th or 5th draft of RotS.
Its not the same because its a continuation.
>Again, this is exact same scenario for Plagueis. Since 99% of the audience does not know who Plagueis, it makes no difference to them, both will need some backstory.
Listen again, bitch:
All normies will know is:
Plagueis is an Sith Lord WHO TRAINED THE FUCKING EMPEROR AND YES NORMIES WILL CARE ABOUT BECAUSE THE EMPEROR IS FUCKING ICONIC.
Created the ENTIRE FUCKING SKYWALKER BLOODLINE INCLUDING VADER, KYLO, LUKE, AND PRESUMABLY REY.
Is fucking immortal.
This is all normies need to know and it sounds fucking badass to them.
OC origin question: where the fuck did Snoke come from?
Plagueis answer: he is a Dark Lord of the Sith who trained Sheev and set his ascension to Emperor in motion; not just an answer but answer with narrative gravity.
OC origin question: what has Snoke been doing during the PT and OT?
Plagueis answer: he created the Skywalker bloodline before the PT, trained Sheev and helped orchestrate the Clone Wars during TPM and AOTC and hid from Sheev, awaiting his down fall, in the unknown regions (where Sheev detected a darkness before his demise) after Sheev's assassination attempt; this anser neatly ties together all three trilogies with a single overarching villain better than any OC origin could.
More in next comment.
>>68038461
It wouldn't take very long to introduce, anyway. Just open the movie with a 15 to 20 minute sequence of Plagueis becoming a Sith, finding and training Sheev, being betrayed, and gathering the first order; LOTR did this well with the opening Suraon sequence in FOTR and the opening Gollum sequence in ROTK.
Such an origin would beg so many questions like where the fuck he came from and why the fuck is only active now? Having Snoke be Plagueis gives him an origin with gravity and explains why he wasn't active during the OT; it would neatly tie together all three trilogies with a single overarching villain.
>>68039109
>Plagueis is an Sith Lord WHO TRAINED THE FUCKING EMPEROR AND YES NORMIES WILL CARE ABOUT BECAUSE THE EMPEROR IS FUCKING ICONIC.
Who is so weak he lost to Sheev. AHAHAHAHA. Looks like ol'Plaggy a bitch, just like you are.
>
OC origin question: where the fuck did Snoke come from?
Outer rim.
>Plagueis answer:
He weak bitch that got rekt by Sheev. Then he was hiding cause he was scared of Sheev. He a massive beta bitch.
LOL
Seriously, what's wrong with EUfags? Do you identity with weak ass beta bitches?
>>68039104
This is just trolling.
>>68033754
He was the real bad guy.
Bane was a fucking puppet and he killed Daggett because he wanted to be the big guy.
>>68039193
It's called wrecking bads by using their logic against them.
Naw seriously though bitch, what's your tumblr? I will get back to you in 2017 to laugh at your dumb ass.
Can someone post the 4x4 of the cinimetography of rougue one? I forgot to save it last time
>>68039228
>muh Plagueis is a shit villain because Sheev beat him
lel, Kylo GOT BEATEN BY A GIRL WITH NO FUCKING TRAINING AND NORMIES STILL WATCHED AND LOVED TFA
Just watch, nigger, Snoke will be Plagueis and normies will love it.
>>68039375
Actually, everyone is complaining about how weak Kylo came out of the movie. Even on 4chan.
Because he kind of did. At least he can get better in the next movies. Plagueis will always just be a foot-note in wookipedia as the guy who got killed by Palpatine.
>>68030033
This was my first thought
>>68029910
It's obviously Smoking Man and they're doing an X-Files crossover.
>>68039533
Nice dubs, retard.
>>68030302
>posted from a gay bar
>>68040027
you're the retard if you dont see the resemblance, retard.
>>68040993
It's still retarded.
>yfw Vader asks him if he feels in charge
>>68041627
>>68035490
Out of all the memes that /tv/ has recently spawned, changing the title of a film into French and parading it as 2deep4u French nu-wave cinema has to be my favorite.
>mon visage quand he hasn't seen the kino that is L'ascension du Chevalier Noir
>>68039533
Looks like Star Wars is saved after all. Thank you based JJ
>>68041849
Troll or nigger.
>>68039533
I laughed when I saw him in the six episode special they did this year.
200th comment niggers!
